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This amazing chapter in Exodus shows us the awesomeness of God's ability to turn nature upside down to deliver His people.

In the first few verses, we are told how YHWH instructed Moses to take a certain path into the wilderness. Moses most likely knew this area well in his 40 years away from Egypt. But YHWH was not going to have Moses decide the route. Sometimes our own knowledge seems best to follow, but it is always best to follow the directions of God. I was reading on a couple Christian archeological sites concerning the most likely route taken by the Israelites when they left Goshen and where the ities mentioned may be located. This was interesting reading.

Many of us learned the "traditional" route of the Israelites and location of Mt. Sinai at the southern end of the Sinai peninusla. Many of us were taught that the Israelites crossed the sea as the freshwater lakes of reed in the Suez canal area (where they or the Egyptians could have just gone around them) or at a place south of Goshen along the western shore of the Gulf of Suez.

In Chapter 11:37 it says that they traveled from Raamses in the Egyptian Delta to Succoth (believed to be east of Raamses but still in Egypt. In Exodus 13:17 it says that they came to a pass and the LORD would not let them go north through Philistia as it was near. So it makes me wonder if there was some type of pass over the mountainous terrain between Egypt and Philistia. The Bible says that this route was the shorter route. But YHWH was taking the Israelites by a circuituous route for a reason. Ex. 13:18 says that YHWH instead lead them around by way of the wilderness of the Red Sea. journeying from Succoth to Etham. In Etham they camped at the edge of the wilderness. Perhaps they camped along the shoreline were there was a sandy route between the sea and the wilderness going north and south.

So God knew what Pharaoh was going to think ahead of time. Knowing this already, He lead the Israelites to a dead end.

Please read: Numbers 14:18, Numbers 14:19, Deuteronomy 7:9, 2Peter 3:9,



Numbers 20:7-12, is a portion of the whole story & reason.

Let's look at the bigger picture:

Numbers 20:12, please note it says "Because you believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore._._" , Please read Exodus, Moses' doubts: Exodus 3:11,13, Exodus 4:1,3,10,14, Exodus 4:24-26, Exodus 5:22, Exodus 6:12, Exodus 6:30, Exodus 14:11-15, Exodus 16:2-28, Exodus 17:2-7, Exodus 32:11-19,30,31,32,33, Exodus 33:1-3, Numbers 11:1-15, mercy ( Numbers 11:16-20,) Numbers 11:21-23, * Numbers 13, Numbers 13:30,31,32, * Numbers 14, very significant I believe, when they were supposed to take the promised land please read Numbers chapters 13 & 14, & notice: Numbers 13:30, Numbers 14:24, Numbers 14:22-23,

Psalms 95:6-11, note Psalms 95:10-11,

Hebrews 3:5-19, Luke 13:24, Mark 10:15,

Hopefully this is helpful

The consummation of all the promised events; to fulfill God's covenant promises made 430 years before this event finally came during the events of this chapter. The plagues and the final pursuit of the Egyptians is certainly similar to Armageddon after the plagues (bowl judgments in particular) where blasphemy towards God is demonstrated by those suffering on earth. We see waters turned to blood; hail; and a final push against the Lord and His people much like that in Psalm 2. There were statements made by Pharaoh about wishing to be blessed; admissions of sin and the like but clearly they were disingenuous at best; as the continuing narrative indicates. As to a question on his death; it is unclear here whether he was included among the "hosts" in verse 28; or whether Pharaoh stood by the shore and observed all this from his vantage point. There is also a theory that King Tut was no other than the last Pharaoh who met an untimely death. There is also the evidence of hailstone imprints on the pyramids in Egypt indicative of that plague occurring.

The Lord; as in the time an angel destroyed 144,000 Syrians in one night would fight for His people. This basically also will happen with the cruel servitude in the last days; when the "Assyrian" mentioned in Isaiah will be eliminated who rules with cruelty. We need to consider how the fear of those Israelites who crossed over the Red Sea was temporal; and how soon after they rebelled. They already complained in verse 12 despite all the miracles God did for their benefit in Egypt. God had vested the authority in Moses to use the rod to proceed in verse 16 after he was perplexed himself in verse 15. His humility may have made him overly cautious; but kept him from assuming that he could go ahead with plans when unknown sin was in the camp and this probably was because of never forgetting the lesson from killing the Egyptian 40years previously.

God bless Angela If you ask the father to guide you through Jesus Christ he will there are many people who can help in the comment section if you have trouble in real time.Keep seeking,keep asking,keep recieving.God be with you on your journey.

Ask GOD ALMIGHTY to help you understand. James 1:5,

John 3:15-16,

If you've accepted Jesus CHRIST as you're savior, there is a promise : John 14:26, Psalms 32:8, Psalms 86:11,

Keep persisting,

Hopefully this is helpful.

Hi Angela.

I would like to encourage you to get a reading program if you haven't already, and trust in the Holyspirit to reveal his truths.

Along with that J vernon mcgee has a great collection of commentary. Or you can find him and several others on Blueletterbible video and audio commentaries.

There's guys on this site that would love to help if you have questions.

Any route you take there's no substitution to reading and studying all 66 books.

Don't begin with topical studies or historical studies, let the Holyspirit work in your studies as it has done in the Church over 2000 years.

God bless.

I do have a question Is there anyone available who can teach me the King James Version?

Exodus 19:11-12, please note: Exodus 19:16-25, Exodus 20:18-21, (Expdus 23:22-24, 31-33) , Exodus 24:1-3,7, Exodus 24:9-11, Exodus 24:12-18, Exodus 32:1-7, Exodus 32:8-11,13,14,15,19,21,22, Exodus 32:35, Exodus 33:5, Exodus 33:11-23, Exodus 34:6-7, Exodus 34:30, Exodus 40:34-35, Leviticus 10:1-2,3,

Exodus 2:13-14, Exodus 4:23-26, Exodus 5:20-21, Exodus 6:9, Exodus 14:10-12, Exodus 15:24, Exodus 16:2,3, Exodus 16:19-20, Exodus 16:25-28, Exodus 17:2-4,

Hebrews 13:17,

Hopefully these are helpful to understand more fully the reason.

Hi GiGi.

The Lord deliverance of Israel out of Egypt was well planned out and his glory was on display Exodus 14:4. and Romans 9:17.

And them entering Egypt was impressive as well with the Lord in total control of this from the selling of Joseph

( Genesis 50:20.) through out the blessings of Joseph. I like to view it as the Lords sovereign plan being exercised

( Genesis 15:13) rather than the brothers doing evil. God was in total control, and even over the famine.

Because all this contributed to the promise he made Abraham.

Great read.

God bless and Goodnight.

Hi english Sasha Here are a few principles I understand if God wants someone to know or do something specifically for your benefit or understanding he will tell the individual first, of there not listening so to speak we'll here from heaven in another way. It will always Glory God and be a blessing to the giver and receiver.



God will never ask anyone to do something outside of foundation of His word, go over speed limit, drive a car with balled tires in a down pour, give you something to do and you don't have the ability to carry it out.



He is not the author of confusion but of order, he never yells in my experience a Still small voice, also if you don't follow first instruction you don't get the next step. Because how can you move on step B if you don't believe step A. Example exodus 14:16 God told Moses to lift up his fod and stretch his hand over the sea and they will go over on dry ground through the sea. verse 21 he did it and got the results, step A and step B

He always communicates to the individual the way they will understand it He's that personal remember the very hairs on our heads are numbered.



It will always be in the renewed mind love of God walk agapeo, and never cross purposes with scripture and you must be peaceful to receive, the greatest cargos in life come in over quiet seas. I'm sure there's

others prayerfully this helps. God Bless

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Hello Onyi,

If the verse doesn't say we don't know.

however, what we do know is in Exodus 6 Moses

told Jehovah God ( psalm 83:18) that he was circumcised in lips.

Moses felt that his speech was cut off. you can think of someone with a stuttering

defect. sometimes in old age people voice is choppy or weak. especially some more then others at the age of 100 years old or more.

What the bible does tells us is that Moses was 120 years

old when he died. Deuteronomy 31:2,14; Joshua 1:2

According to Exodus 7:7, Moses was 80 years of age at this time. Therefore, assuming that the ensuing plagues upon Egypt followed each other in quick succession & they left Rameses soon after, then their journey into the wilderness saw them go first to Succoth, then to Etham & onto Baal Zephon ( Exodus 14:1). So, I would say that Moses was a little over 80 years of age by a few months. It's interesting that Pharaoh only now chose to pursue them, believing them to be trapped at the Red Sea. Maybe, the death & destruction in Egypt under God's Hand took them quite a while to recover & gather themselves together to go after the children of Israel, as we read that once again God "hardened Pharoah's heart" ( Exodus 14:8), which made him foolishly pursue God's chosen.

How old was Moses then?

God got all power show it to Moses.to get the people out of Egypt.

Hi Prasanth Konde --> on Judges 2 - who is the Angel name in verse 1?

How to get to his name? Actually he is an archangel. He is a warrior.

He is the same who appeared to Moses in the mount Sina- Exodus 3:v.1-2 and Acts 7:v.30-33;

It is he who appears between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel in Exodus 14:v.19-20;

GOD reveals to Moses how the behaviour of this angel is. He is severe. Exodus 23:v.20-23

It is he who stood in the way for an adversary against Balaam with his sharp Sword: Numbers 22:v.22 onwards;

Joshua saw him in Jericho when he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his Sword drawn in his hand. Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries? 14 And he said, Nay; but as captain (or Prince) of the host of the Lord am I now come.

His name? Daniel 12:v.1-3

Eric ,have you not thought that the pharo might have had an older brother ? Maybe his older brother had already died ? That would mean that he was not the 1st born male of his house and thats why he didnt die at that time .

I actually enjoy what the Bible says about that time; over Hollywood's depiction.

When I watched the passion of the Christ. I had to pray. I knew Jesus was whipped with cruel weapons, and boxed, had really long thorns driven into his skull. The stripped his clothing off. The blood on his back would've been congealed on the fabric.

Mel Gibsons, The Passion of the Christ, is beyond most humans comprehension of unbridled violence. Someone once said that the crowd that screamed for Jesus to be crucified, had become a Demon.

The Bible says Satan was a created archangel. 4th in line to Gods Throne, because he was a covering cherub. Lower angels were called, sons of God (little "s") All satan was intent on was killing the Son of God. That war is shown in the book of Revelation.

So..that movie shows how strong Jesus is. HE IS THE SON OF GOD. There could be no other outcome: victory complete. Satan thought he could beat and kill Jesus. Genesis 3:15 should've alerted Satan that he would lose the war. What do you think? Pride blinded Satan back in Genesis.

He will lose. He's going to inflate the Antichrist with so much poison, that millions of people will be murdered. We do need to pray daily for the Peace of Jerusalem; as Jesus requested. They are going to endure 3 1/2 years of inhuman treatment. Some people are going survive to the end of the Tribulation.

I pray that our praise of Jesus would rise above what "we usually do". We have to understand that Satan (ex-archangel in charge of praise and worship) DOES NOT WANT US TO PRAISE JESUS.

That's why politicians in the Nations capital are so dead set on making it illegal to sing inside of Church. Legislate that Churches cannot be too big. Want the Christians to wear masks anyway because of the air we expel.

What about the VENOM they expel? We need to take a look at our Congress through new eyes.

Truly we are seeing the final moments of mankind as we knew it; and the emergence of evil.

So the Pharaoh also died?? Just want to clarify that cos in the Movie Ten Commandments the Pharaoh live.

look up "I am the righeousness of God in Jesus Christ" in the KJV window, main page. All goodness and righteousness is is of Christ, never of our own goodness. Even the good things Paul did he counted as loss in order to gain the righteousness that was his through Jesus Christ...... Your past is wiped clean, in Him. As you believe, God looks upon you and sees his Son, not your failures. I have made countless mistakes in my life, and every time I was aware of it, the realization of God's mercy melted me, and made me fall in love with my Lord even more..... Blessings to you Aaron, I had to lose my entire family at one point, and I became willing for that if it needed to be, but it is all being restored in Him......

The word Christendom encompasses the Medieval and Renaissance idea of the central place of Christianity in the lives of nations, countries, states, and individuals. The definition of Christendom is a group of people or nations under a Christian set of morals and values.

You'll just have to do some googling on that question, and a bit of digging. I think it's similar to a word we use now: Christianity.

What is the difference between Christendom and Christianity? How can I find more info about Christendom?

Aaron,

Please know that you're not alone, Jesus Christ loves you and died for you, shed his precious blood to atone for your sins so that you can have eternal life with him.

Made mistakes 20 years ago, my family will never forget or forgive me, was painful being rejected and couldn't handle it so I prayed for my family and gave it all to Jesus Christ and he has filled my empty heart with his love and peace beyond words. Matthew 11:30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

Only thing that matters is that Jesus Christ forgives you of all your sins, you're filled with the Holy Ghost so that you will be worthy to stand before the Son of Man. Isaiah 43:25

God bless you and may the Lord cover you with his wings Psalms 17:8 keep you safe from the snares of satan.

Donna, In the KJV Bible, no scripture says Job's wife was killed. She tells him that he should curse God and die, this possibly showed her feelings of pity and concern for what has happened. The children were killed in one of the brother's house, not in Job's house. There are writings outside of the Bible telling Job had two wives and even gives their names whether true or not the KJV Bible does not tell us.

God bless your work, Ron

Read the Book of Job, slower. Make notes, is what I do.

Jobs first children were killed in a storm sent by Satan. He also influenced Jobs wife to tell Job to curse God and die. I believe Jobs wife met with the same death, as did Rebekah in the Genesis story when she planned for Jacob to receive the firstborn blessing. She ended up mumbling and then died later.

This is a good example why we should never curse others.

Jobs faith in God was strong despite all the things Satan threw at him. Well meaning "friends" that vexed his soul. A wife who cursed him.

He was rewarded for his faith. His 2nd wife bore Job more children. His first wife's children had all been killed.

All his possessions were multiplied.

Thank you Steven. To bring that to a personal level: when we are led of God's Spirit, the wrist watch, diary or calendar are both unnecessary & irrelevant. We may need those things for our day-to-day activities & to keep appointments, but in God's economy His Spirit gives us both timing & direction.

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God"; the Spirit will always lead us, as God's children, but do we always obey His leading? Can we ever step outside that leading & that Will for us & not grieve the Spirit by doing so? As Jesus always sought His Father's Will in everything ( John 5:30), He fulfilled God's Plan for Him & Israel to the very last minute. How often we wonder whether we're in the centre of God's Will & might even become despondent in our circumstances - rather, we ought to be sure that there's nothing hindering the Spirit's Words & Work in our lives & that our ears are always inclined towards Him, rather than to the voices around us.

And yes, the Jews ought to have known from the Scriptures that the Messiah had come to them & by the many proofs Jesus had shown them. But that knowledge mixed with human perceptions compelled them to reject Jesus.

They would have asked, 'How could the Messiah oppose or contradict the very Law He should have rather fully supported & expounded on? A breaker of the Sabbath? Allowing an adulterous woman to live? A forgiver of sins? How could He claim to be God's Son - God is One? Joseph was a descendant from David, & Jesus was not Joseph's son - Mary's lineage wasn't considered - Jesus didn't fulfil Messianic prophecy? Where is the liberator from the Roman oppression; instead we get a humble, self-sacrificing holy Man?'

As the Word says, "He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them." ( John 12:40; Isaiah 6:10). BUT He became the Saviour to all who would believe.

Amen Chris.

Everything was to be done at the appointed time. Jesus knew they would try to Make him king before the appointed time.

John 6:15. When Jesus therefore perceived that they would come and take him by force, to make him a king, he departed again into a mountain himself alone. But when the time came he didn't only allow himself to be presented as king he arranged it.

Luke 19:30-31. Go ye into the village over against you; in the which at your entering ye shall find a colt tied, whereon yet never man sat: loose him, and bring him hither.

And if any man ask you, Why do ye loose him? thus shall ye say unto him, Because the Lord hath need of him.

And then...

Luke 19:37-40. And when he was come nigh, even now at the descent of the mount of Olives, ""THE WHOLE MULTITUDE OF THE DISCIPLES"" began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that they had seen;

saying Blessed be the King that cometh in the name of the Lord: peace in heaven, and glory in the highest.

And some of the Pharisees from among the multitude said unto him, Master, rebuke thy disciples.

And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.

Fulfilling Zechariah 9:9. Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

A time the Jews should have known from the many prophesies. And he met all the criteria

Daniel even gave them a time.

Daniel 9:25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem UNTO THE MESSIAH THE PRINCE SHALL BE SEVEN WEEKS, AND THREESCORE AND TWO WEEKS: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

But they couldn't perceive. Matthew 13:14.

as Ron stated.

And it seems they were held accountable in

Luke 19:41-44.

Goodmorning and God bless.

I feel so alone I have made mistakes allot in the pass but I'm just want family and better things but family won't stop judging me and I just want love.....

Heard this thought today. Niceness is good but can be limited because it is often self protecting. To come closer in any kind of relationship, including with God we cannot come defended, we must come with our vulnerabilities exposed.

Hi Chris ,i believe the Jews knew who Jesus was ,Mth ch 11 v2-5 ,there are lots of other verses to indicate they knew who he was ,the common people heard him gladly but the leaders didnt want to let go of their power and authority ,when Jesus is dying on the cross and he asks God to forgive them as they know not what they do ,i believe he is talking about the roman soldiers not the Jews .All things were done and accomplished exactly as God wanted them to be ,the only sign that the Jews kept asking for was the one thing Jesus wouldnt or couldnt yet do which was to restore the Kingdom to Israel ,that is yet to come ,thats what the leaders kept asking for even though Jesus did many awesome and beautiful things in their sight which they knew only God or the promised Messiah could have done .They wanted him to rid Israel of the romans and if he wasnt going to do that they werent interested in him .

Hey Don, if I may add to Chris and Jesse I hope you do not mind, everyone was looking for the Messiah to set up the kingdom then. Even the twelve apostles, no one knew he was going to be crucified even though Jesus told them several times, it was hidden from them, even Satan did not know the purpose of the crucifixion. When Jesus was resurrected the disciples still did not believe until Jesus appeared to them but they still asked Him if He was to set up the kingdom then. Acts 1:6 When they, therefore, were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

If Satan had known he would have stopped the crucifixion because that would have stopped the plan of Satan's demise. 1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose, the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. The reason was fulfilling prophecy. Mark.4:11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

They were told the time when the Messiah would come in Daniel 9:25 but their time was up. and the old covenant was to be fulfilled and the new was not yet revealed. Jesus came the first time for the lost sheep of Israel and only the chosen by God was shown Jesus was the Messiah the Christ.

All the others, Matthew 13: 14-16 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: 15 For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. 16 But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear.

God bless, Ron