Discuss Exodus 19

  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON

    Re.19:1-10

    1And AFTER these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven,saying,Alleluia;Salvation,and Glory,and Honour,and Power,unto the Lord our GOD:

    2For true and righteous are His Judgments:for He hath Judged the Great Whore,which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.

    3And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

    4And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped GOD that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. ( Revelation 11:15-18 also describe this celestial Event)

    5And a voice came out of the throne,saying,Praise our God,all ye His servants,and ye that fear Him,both small and great.

    6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude,and as the voice of many waters,and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying,Alleluia:for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.

    7Let us be glad and rejoice,and give honour to Him:for the marriage of the Lamb is come,and His wife hath made herself ready.

    8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen,clean and white:for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    9And he saith unto me,Write,Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

    10And I fell at his feet to worship him.And he said unto me,See thou do it not:I am thy fellowservant,and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:worship GOD:for the testimony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.

    REVELATION 1:7-8

    7Behold,He cometh with clouds{See exemple in Exodus 19:14-17,and understand the biblical chronology:we are in the 3rd Day};and every eye shall see Him,and they also which pierced Him(around 2000 years ago,or two Days):and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him.Even so,Amen.

    8I am Alpha and Omega,the beginning and the ending,saith the Lord,which is,and which was,and which is to come,the Almighty.
  • Oseas - 5 months ago
    Exodus 19:11 & 14-20

    11And be ready against the third day:for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

    14And Moses went down from the mount unto the people,and sanctified the people;and they washed their clothes.

    15And he said unto the people,Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.

    16And it came to pass on the third day in the morning,that there were thunders and lightnings,and a thick cloud upon the mount,and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud;so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

    17And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with GOD;and they stood at the nether part of the mount.

    18And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

    19And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and GOD answered him by a voice.

    20And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.

    John 2:18-20

    18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

    19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

    Hebrews 1:1-2

    1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

    2Hath in these last days (last two Days or last 2000 years)spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

    The third Day arrived, the clothes must be washed,the Lord shall descend from heaven(from the 3rd heaven),the dead in Christ shall rise first- 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 19:7-8.

    Matthew 25:6-Behold,the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to meet Him.
  • Oseas - 10 months ago
    Exodus 19:

    9The Lord said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud;

    10 Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them WASH their clothes,

    11And be ready against the THIRD DAY: for the THIRD DAY the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people...

    14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes.

    15 And he said unto the people, Be ready against the THIRD DAY: come not at your wives.

    16 And it came to pass on the THIRD DAY in the morning(IN THE TURN OF THE DAY), that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. (Compare with 1Thessalonians 4:16. Take a look).

    17 And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with GOD; and they stood at the nether part of the mount.

    18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

    19 And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder...

    Moses spake, and GOD answered him by a voice.

    Revelation 11:15 -

    15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Ronald.

    Part 5.

    Sanctification under the law and Gods acceptance of man's cleansing himself and a picture of the difference between the ministration of death and the ministration by the Spirit.

    Exodus 19:10-12. And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their clothes, And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death:

    This is a type of cleansing you are describing Ronald when considering man can keep himself sanctified. The problem is, this is absent of Christ atonement.

    "Man can never do enough to come from under Christ atonement!

    Our part is to obey the Spirit that has been sown in our hearts to carry the Lord's name. We are not to take the Lord's name in vain.

    We are to be set apart from the world by our chastened walk through the Spirit, but when it comes to the Holiness of God, our obedience doesn't set us apart from our past, present, and future sin. The atoning blood of Christ does that forever.

    The children of Israel although cleaning themselves they could never cleanse themselves enough to come into the presence of God. NEITHER CAN WE!

    However, under the new covenant where Christ blood cleanses us we see the contrast of the two in 2 Corinthians 3:3-18.

    and Galatians 4:21-31.

    The power of His Holy Spirit that gives us new birth at justification is the same power that sanctifies us through the life of the risen Christ.

    There are many Bible passages that puts the onus on the Christian to grow spiritually ( Romans 12:1-2; 2 Peter 3:18). However, the Bible clearly indicates that the Christian must cooperate with God but not for eternal security, It's for spiritual growth.

    Thanks for replying and God bless.
  • Carleton - 1 year ago
    Good evening friends! This verse comes back to me again and again.

    "Ye have seen what I did unto the Egyptians, and how I bare you on eagles' wings, and brought you unto myself." Exodus 19:4 KJV
  • Daruled - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Richard, thank you for your reply. There is much to say concerning your reply, yet in the spirit of fellowship I will forego the debatable things. But, I will point out that the Pharisees didn't reject Christ because they didn't believe He was The Messiah! No, on the contrary, they knew that Christ was indeed a man from God (Messiah) (John3:1-2). For their unbelief had a more filthy origin; Christ's teachings were about man having a Personal Relationship with The Father, and because of this God would Fulfill The Prophecy in "And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel." Exodus 19:6 KJV. Therefore, the Pharisees knew that Jesus Christ came to take away their power as a priesthood by making us all priests! It's not that they didn't know who Christ was, it was that they called Christ an enemy to preserve their power over Israel. And yes, for that reason they were Judged. It is also something many leaders in the church are still doing today!
  • S Spencer - 1 year ago
    Good evening all.

    Let's make this clear, A Christian should do ALL he can to live a sinless life.

    The question is, Can he do it?

    John 1:29.

    The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, WHICH TAKETH AWAY THE SIN OF THE WORLD.

    This is the penalty of sin!

    Christ was the perfect sinless offering, God wouldn't take no less than the perfect sacrifice.

    That's the only sacrifice that could be offered!

    Who offered this perfect Lamb? God. John 3:16.

    Would Jesus be the Lamb of God if he fell short and only committed one sin but did his best? No! It had to be perfect from the time he was born until his death on the cross.

    Jesus didn't inherit a sin nature as a son from Adam as we.

    Jesus was begotten of the Father!

    This was a display of love from God in offering up his own son.

    We can't offer up a sinless life in these sinful bodies.

    Yes, we can do our best and have a good report in what we do in the body,

    But we can never get from under the cover of the blood of Christ.

    You could never make atonement for yourself and come to the Lord "NAKED"!

    This is shown in Exodus 19:11-25.

    No matter how well you do or how spiritual you are when you die you will not be sown incorruptible.

    However, you will be SOWN IN CORRUPTION; SOWN IN DISHONOUR; And SOWN IN WEAKNESS;

    When you are raised, you will be RAISED IN INCORRUPTION, RAISED IN GLORY, AND RAISED IN POWER:

    Then you will cast off this body of sin and Death is swallowed up in victory. 1 Corinthians 15:42-43.

    Question;

    Is doing your best enough for salvation?

    If you do your best all your life "as most of us do" However, commit one sin, are we saved?

    If so, Why?

    God bless.
  • Carleton - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good evening! A couple of meditations.

    "(Now the man Moses was very meek, above all the men which were upon the face of the earth.)" Numbers 12:3 KJV

    Even though Moses struck the rock twice he remained true to the original Covenant.

    Exodus 19:4

    Idolatry followed the first Covenant of God with the people that were led out of darkness on eagle's wings within 40 days.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 3 - 1 year ago
    Page 2.

    Fourthly, the Ten Commandments were given to Israel & were binding upon them. Some of their objectives were:

    a. to reveal the Holiness of the Eternal God to His people, Israel: Leviticus 19:2; Leviticus 20:7-8.

    b. to set Israel apart as distinct from all the other nations: Exodus 19:5.

    c. to reveal man's sinfulness: Galatians 3:19. Although the Law is "holy, just & good ( Romans 7:12), it did not provide salvation for the nation of Israel; and it cannot provide salvation to anyone who wants to or tries to keep the Law. No one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin ( Romans 3:20; Acts 13:38-39).

    d. to show to humanity that not one person can fully keep the Law but everyone falls short of God's Standard of Holiness. Realizing that, should cause us to cast ourselves upon a Merciful God for His Forgiveness. When Jesus came, He fulfilled the requirements of the Law completely and by His death fully paid the penalty for their breaking it ( Galatians 3:24; Romans 10:4). Therefore, by His Obedience, He was qualified to be the accepted Sacrifice for all mankind, for all of our sins ( Hebrews 10:10-12). If Jesus failed in fully keeping the Law, He would have been disqualified as a Savior - all mankind would be forever stuck in the quagmire of their sins & hell would be the destiny. But He was raised from the dead to show His Father's acceptance, our justification & deliverance ( Romans 4:23-25).

    I hope you can see Ani, that even though there was nothing wrong with the Law, even keeping the Sabbath by Israel, anyone who puts themselves under the Law (i.e. to find forgiveness or acceptance by God by it), is doomed to fail. Our Rest - continual rest (Sabbath) is now found in Jesus & not in Law-keeping & we can only be subject now to the Holy Spirit who enables us to fulfil both the spirit of the Law & finding the true rest in Christ Jesus ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-9; Romans 8:1-4).
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Paul.

    You claim that Exodus 33:11 and Exodus 33:20 is a contradiction.

    Exodus 33:9-20. And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the CLOUDY PILLAR DESCENDED, AND STOOD AT THE DOOR OF THE TABERNACLE, AND THE LORD TALKED WITH MOSES.

    Paul I believe what is mentioned here is the Lord spoke to Moses "DIRECTLY" as a man speaks to his friend. He spoke to him from the cloudy pillar. Moses never saw his face. They interact as friends as Abraham interacted with the Lords angel in Genesis 18.

    I believe the emphasis in verse 11 is on the Lord spoke to Moses as a friend and directly.

    The children of Israel also saw the Cloudy pillar at the door as they did in Exodus 19:18 and Exodus 20:18-19. but they didn't speak to the Lord as Moses did.

    AND ALL THE PEOPLE SAW THE CLOUDY PILLAR STAND AT THE TABERNACLE DOOR: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door.

    And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

    Verses 17-20. And the LORD said unto Moses, I will do this thing also that thou hast spoken: for thou hast found grace in my sight, and I know thee by name.

    And he said, I beseech thee, shew me thy glory.

    And he said, I will make all my goodness pass before thee, and I will proclaim the name of the LORD before thee; and will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and will shew mercy on whom I will shew mercy.

    And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

    There's no contradiction here.

    God bless.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 143 - 2 years ago
    Psalms 144,

    Psalms 144:5,6, see: Exodus 19:10-20,

    Psalms 144:7, many times GOD parted the waters, rivers, even a Sea, to deliver HIS children: Exodus 14:21-31, Joshua 3:13-17,

    Psalms 144:11-15, could be reference to many battles David faced in: 1Samuel, 2Samuel, 1Chronicles,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Why The Ten Commandments result in Happiness - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I'm 71, and 36 years a Christian. I believe the age of accountability is when a child exhibits knowledge of Good and Evil, also what's truth and what is a Lie.

    Deuteronomy 11-12, teaches what God expects of parenting and teaching Your Own Children. His teaching is ABOVE Public Schools. SCHOOLS TODAY will not teach morals or Godly Principles. It is the parent(s) responsibility. Write that scripture reference inside the cover of your Bible. Also, Exodus 19:5; Ten Commandments from Exodus 20:1-17

    In my household with my son, we had all of the above teaching. Punishment for bad behavior, I called it "misdemeanors or felonies". Lying and getting caught or scaring me to death, was a felony= a non-violent spanking. NEVER administered in anger!

    Misdemeanors resulted in loss of some favorite toys for a period of time. They were locked up. This was usually for not completing homework from school. Cleaning his room.

    The deal was: "if you do it as I asked you to do, I will never invade your space". He had to learn privacy is not learned. It is EARNED.

    Lying was not tolerated. I told him if you are truthful with me, no matter what, I will forgive you. He's 45 now, and he teaches his son exactly as he was taught from me.

    It gives me deep gratefulness to live this. Gods Word will live on and be carried forward into the future in our children; if we teach it as God told us to. Oprah and Dr Phil DO NOT teach this.

    The 10 Commandments are not suggestions. If we ignore them, we will have difficult lives.

    Mishael
  • Charrisse Thompson - In Reply on Isaiah 58 - 2 years ago
    Continued Hebrews 4

    The Moral law contains the Love and legal code God has for His Universe and beloved children. It is;

    Written in stone by God's own finger - Exodus 31:18, Deuteronomy 4:12-13, 9:10

    Has always existed & will be kept throughout eternity and throughout all the universe - Psalm 111:7,8, Romans 5:19 refers to Adam sinning in the Garden of Eden

    Jesus said He did not come to destroy it but to fulfil it - Matt 5:17 - 19

    Jesus said 'If you love me keep my commandments' John 14:15 and that 'He is the Lord of the Sabbath - Mark 2:28 - yet never mentions it being dissolved or changed

    God's people are commanded to keep the Commandments of God for all eternity & God's people are identified by it because they keep it out of love to God and by faith - Exodus 19:5, Ecclesiastes 12:13,14, Psalm 111:7,8, Revelation 14:12, 12:17

    Lives in the heart of God's children - Psalms 40:8

    We are judged by them - James 2:12

    Blessed with access to the Tree of Life if you keep them by faith - Revelation 22:14
  • ELB - In Reply on Psalms 23 - 2 years ago
    Amen Sister Suze:

    Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a KINGDOM OF PRIEST, and a holy nation. These are the words ye shall speak to the children of Israel.

    God bless You!
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    He does.

    1st through creation, our very breath, heartbeat, vision, taste, smell, every flower, tree, sunset, sunrise, the oxygen we breathe, every beautiful creature, every created thing. He made & gave us trust to keep it. Through HIS creation HE speaks to us. If we choose to listen. Through the seasons & sunrise, sunsets we see He is faithful. Through domestic animals we see HIS compassion. In life we see hope. All given by GOD!

    2nd His WORD the Bible, is GOD speaking through HIS people, 2Timothy 3:16, to us, all that are willing to read it.

    3rd GOD has spoken through HIS Prophets: Jeremiah 7:25, & HIS people

    4th Through JESUS The Messiah John 3:15-16,

    5th Through the HOLY Spirit that was promised by JESUS to all who believe: Ephesians 1:13, John 14:26, Luke 11:13,

    Sometimes in our most difficult moments in life we want GOD to speak to us outloud. In those times we need a quiet voice of comfort, which we can find in HIS WORD, in prayer, all around creation if we seek HIM. The voice of GOD recorded in scripture is like thunder, many accounts it makes those who've heard it tremble in fear. Exodus 19:9,16,18,19, Job 37:5, Psalms 77:18, John 12:28,29,

    I hope you will hear GOD more clearly

    Hopefully this is helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 25 - 2 years ago
    It appears he's speaking to those who identified themselves as "children of Abraham" "under the Covenant" &/or self-righteous:

    Matthew 5:20, Matthew 7, Matthew 8:10,12, Matthew 23, Matthew 25:31-46, note also Matthew 23:34-36, * Matthew 21:23-46,

    Matthew 9:34, Matthew 11:12, Matthew 12:25, Matthew 13:57, Isaiah 53,

    Exodus 19:6, 1Samuel 13:13,14, 1Samuel 15:28,

    the promise made to David 2Samuel 7:12-17, 1Kings 9:5, 1Chronicles 22:9,10, 1Chronicles 28:7, Isaiah 9:7,

    1Samuel 13:13,14, 1Kings 11:11-14, the Bible has in the past shown how GOD will reject those who reject HIM.

    Psalms 22:18,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 2 Chronicles 7 - 2 years ago
    Hi Dan.

    I'm not sure the emphasis is on Gods name.

    The emphasis is on Gods possession in his people.

    Exodus 4:22-23. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the LORD, Israel is my son, even my firstborn:

    And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me:...

    Also:

    "Prophetic."

    Behold, I will bring them from the north country, and gather them from the coasts of the earth, and with them the blind and the lame, the woman with child and her that travaileth with child together: a great company shall return thither.

    They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: FOR I AM A FATHER TO ISRAEL, and Ephraim is my firstborn. Jeremiah 31:8-9.

    Israel was to be set apart.

    Exodus 19:5.

    2 Chronicles 7:10-16. And on the three and twentieth day of the seventh month he sent the people away into their tents, glad and merry in heart for the goodness that the LORD had shewed unto David, and to Solomon, and to Israel his people.

    Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king's house: and all that came into Solomon's heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.

    And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.

    If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.

    For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

    God bless.
  • Chris - In Reply on Proverbs 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello Steise. Your first paragraph interested me & would seek clarification as to where you received that information. In my Hebrew Lexicon, 'Elohim' is a Masculine Noun; 'Shekinah' is a word not found in the Bible, neither associated with the Holy Spirit; and the 'Spirit' is a Feminine Noun, depicted as 'wind, breath, spirit', but 'Holy' is a Neuter Noun. In Greek, 'Spirit', is a Neuter Noun.

    'Shekinah' was first used by Jewish Rabbis in the inter-testamental period, to show to the people various aspects of God. E.g God's Presence amongst His people ( Exodus 19:16-18); the Glory of God in the Temple ( 2 Chronicles 7:1); & how God dwells in the mountain ( Psalm 68:16-18) but was never found or used from their Scriptures.

    But, you're correct, that 'wisdom' is a Feminine Noun, as nouns in Hebrew (& many other languages) were given a specific gender. Is my understanding incorrect with these words, in light of what you have stated & then further developed from them? If so, what reference are you using in sharing from the original languages?

    And yes, the Bible is full of mysteries that we may never fully understand this side of Heaven, but we should enjoy what we do know & subsequently learn to appreciate the Gems given to us. When our foundational Truths are clear, we can then confidently build upon them.
  • Richard H Priday on Isaiah 19 - 2 years ago
    This chapter discusses the humbling of Egypt but also puts hope into the future restoration of the Southern Kingdom with Assyria (mainly located to the north) which encompasses much of northern Iraq today. There can only be true peace with an individual and a nation when repentance occurs and the true God is worshipped. Such will be the case when they are ruled by a fierce king (verse 4). It appears that God will send a man of God to save Egypt after they call for help (verse 20). I believe that Heliopolis is the name of the "city of destruction" listed in verse 18. In any case; a true bond between the nations occurs after the Lord returns; when a highway between Assyria and Egypt occurs. Egypt is God's people and Assyria the work of God's hands. Only Israel is God's inheritance; his unique nation of which we are grafted into. Exodus 19:5 speaks of the status of a "special treasure" provided that His people remain obedient for Israel. As always; God begins His judgments with His own; whether it is judging the church first ( 1 Peter 4:17); or those of the original covenant promises. There will be some; although very few who survive through the whole coming Tribulation who will repopulate the earth; and other verses indicate specifically for Egypt that their survival is determined by obedient appearance before the Lord or there is "no rain" ( Zechariah 14:18). The droughts of the earth or man made blockade of the Nile clearly affect them as seen in verses 4-10; and of course such judgments will be worldwide during the seal and trumpet judgments; as well as those the two Prophets perform through the power of God at that time. It would appear that in some nations; there will be a larger remnant of true believers left than in others-ultimately; that will be largely determined by those who take the Mark of the Beast or refrain from it as to their final fate. The first group will be destroyed at the onset; the rest of the survivors will enter the Millennium.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Romans 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi BMW.

    Part 6.

    EVIDENCE OF DIVINE CONCERN FOR THE GENTILES. Continued.

    (1) The practice of offering sacrifices as atonement, typically foreshadowing the coming of Jesus, apparently was a human requirement from the very commencement of history. Abel, son of Adam and Eve, brought the "firstlings of his flock and the fat thereof" ( Genesis 4:4). The offering must have been killed, otherwise he could not have presented the fat, which was the best part. Moreover, we are told that "righteous Abel" (so designated by Jesus [ Matthew 23:35]) offered his sacrifice "by faith" ( Hebrews 11:4), which, in the overall context of this chapter, clearly is an objective faith grounded in revelation, and not that which was subjectively whimsical.

    When Noah departed from the ark after the waters of the flood subsided, he built an altar and offered sacrifices of every clean animal and bird, and Jehovah was pleased with his offering ( Genesis 8:20-21). What compelled him to do such?

    Melchizedek, whom Abraham encountered on his return from the rescue of his nephew, was designated by Moses as a "priest of God Most High" ( Genesis 14:18). A priest is an appointed servant who officiates in the offering of sacrifices to atone for sin. The modernistic notion that Melchizedek was merely the "high god" priest of the Canaanites (e.g., Baal), worshipped in pre-Israelite Jerusalem, is absurd (Hicks 1962, 343). God would hardly have chosen a Baal-worshipper to be a type, prophetically previewing his Son ( Hebrews 7:3). See also Leupold (1942, 463).

    (2) The entire world population was one in kind prior to the call of Abraham. He was the first to be designated a Hebrew ( Genesis 14:13). The Hebrews were not set apart as a distinct people until the giving of the law of Moses ( Exodus 19:5-6; cf. Ephesians 2:14). It is wholly unrealistic not to recognize that God's love for the Gentiles was a part of the ancient world.

    See Part 7 of 7!
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 2 years ago
    Hi Wilma.

    I believe you are looking for Revelation 12:14. Those eagle wings is seen here in Exodus 19:4. and Isaiah 40:31.

    The fact that they're carried on eagles wings there is no need for protection from any nation. Their protection always came from the Lord and always will. Psalms 121:4-5.

    God bless.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on Revelation 13 - 2 years ago
    Hi Wilma Smith,

    There is in Daniel 7:4 The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

    Some take prophecy and symbols like animals and put things together to fit theories about end times. Some put Great Britain and the United States. The Lion represents Great Britain, and the Eagle wings represent the United States of America. Bear means Russia, the leopard means Germany, the chief battle tank of Germany is the leopard tank (Panzer), and more.

    Like the wings in Revelation 12:14, you can see in Exodus 19:4, this may give a better understanding of the term used. This could not be referring to either America or airlift by the United States. It has a meaning of caring for the young (children), like what Jesus said in Matthew 23:37.

    There are seven-year periods for different things in the bible like seven-year Sabbath, seven years of plenty and then seven years of drought Joseph was given and more, but the seven years that have been placed at the end times is a theory, not in scripture. It is taken from Daniel 9:27 which in my understanding has been fulfilled. You will find only 3.5 years, 42 months, and 1260 days.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Chris - In Reply on Exodus 19 - 2 years ago
    Hi Sabrina. The Hebrew word used in Exodus 19:3 is the same word used in 2 Kings 2:11 (when Elijah was caught up in a whirlwind to enter Heaven). And that word is 'a-lah', which means 'to go up, ascend, or climb'. So, it would correct to understand that both Moses & Elijah physically changed direction, one by walking up the mount to God & the other transported into Heaven to God. However, in both cases I would think that some degree of 'transfiguration' would have taken place; Moses' facial complexion changed/shone ( Exodus 34:29-35) and Elijah would have to receive a glorified body (i.e. with the corruption of flesh neutralized to enter Heaven) just as we would be changed at the Rapture ( 1 Corinthians 15:51-53).
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply on Exodus 19 - 2 years ago
    well, the bible talks a lot about The New Jerlusomen and the kingdom of God being a mount called mount zion.

    [ Psa 48:2 KJV] 2 Beautiful for situation, the joy of the whole earth, [is] mount Zion, [on] the sides of the north, the city of the great King.

    from what I understand that is picturing that no one is going to heaven unless they have been cleansed and are holly.

    [ Rev 21:27 KJV] 27 And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither [whatsoever] worketh abomination, or [maketh] a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
  • Sabrina Yohn on Exodus 19 - 2 years ago
    In Exodus 19:3 The words used in translation is "went up" how do we determine if this is physically walking up the mountain, vs. being transfigured?
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Kathy,

    I would like to add to the truth Cait has given referencing Hebrews 12:18-23. For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

    And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:

    (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

    And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

    BUT YE ARE COME UNTO MOUNT SION, AND UNTO THE CITY OF THE LIVING GOD, THE ( HEAVENLY JERUSALEM, ) and to an innumerable company of angels,

    To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

    Notice the contrast. In Exodus 19:10-12. THE LORD TELL MOSES TO SANCTIFY THE PEOPLE AND TELL THEM TO WASH THERE CLOTHES, and bring them the third day, and they still couldn't touch the border of the law given mountain!!

    In the Heavenly Jerusalem God don't wash garments, he gives new ones.

    Zechariah 2:10-13.

    Zechariah 3:1-9.

    Ephesians 4:20-24.

    Colossians 3:9-10.

    Parallel-

    Galatians 4:21-26. Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law?

    For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman.

    But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise.

    WHICH THINGS ARE AN ALLEGORY: FOR THESE ARE THE TWO COVENANTS; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar.

    For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children.

    BUT JERUSALEM WHICH IS ABOVE IS FREE, WHICH IS THE MOTHER OF US ALL.

    Romans 8:3-4.

    A general area to study in.

    Hopefully someone will add.

    God bless.
  • Rick Mentzer - In Reply on Exodus 19 - 2 years ago
    Hi Cait Hello and welcome thanks to being made the righteousness pf God in Christ Jesus we can stand

    in front of our Father with no sense of sin guilt or condemnation in him Christ. Terrific time to be living!
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Exodus 19 - 2 years ago
    Exodus 19:11-12, please note: Exodus 19:16-25, Exodus 20:18-21, (Expdus 23:22-24, 31-33) , Exodus 24:1-3,7, Exodus 24:9-11, Exodus 24:12-18, Exodus 32:1-7, Exodus 32:8-11,13,14,15,19,21,22, Exodus 32:35, Exodus 33:5, Exodus 33:11-23, Exodus 34:6-7, Exodus 34:30, Exodus 40:34-35, Leviticus 10:1-2,3,

    Exodus 2:13-14, Exodus 4:23-26, Exodus 5:20-21, Exodus 6:9, Exodus 14:10-12, Exodus 15:24, Exodus 16:2,3, Exodus 16:19-20, Exodus 16:25-28, Exodus 17:2-4,

    Hebrews 13:17,

    Hopefully these are helpful to understand more fully the reason.
  • Cait - In Reply on Exodus 19 - 2 years ago
    also, how wonderful here how God, great and holy as He is, seeks relationship. He has a plan and a way to bring life and blessing to His people.
  • Cait - In Reply on Exodus 19 - 2 years ago
    if I understand correctly, Moses alone was permitted to approach God. This is about the great Majesty and holiness of God, how we, before Christ, stand naked before a holy righteous judge. Now under the gospel what a privilege we enjoy to have "boldness to enter the holiest by the blood of Jesus". Hallelujah!


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