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Hello Carl. To your comment, "Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today."

Theoretically, yes. Practically, it is the leadership (government), however small numerically, who has the power & the resources to back it up. Generally, the populace hasn't got the will, stamina, or firepower to withstand a govt. At times, coups have been mounted, some successful, most others, not so. But for the preservation of life & family and lack of equivalent or greater ordnance, most would rather be subjected to despotic regimes or at best, attempt flight.

I don't think any nation has ever seen a righteous government, which upholds the Laws of God, abhors evil, metes out true justice & shows true compassion. Governments are as wicked as the people whom they're supposed to serve and I believe, will have a lot more to answer for in that day of reckoning.

As I research the Bible and learn to read for understanding there are some very interesting results I find. I have been seeking reasoning behind verse 8 that tell us that "a new king arose who knew not Joseph".

This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the famine that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.

If there was any viability to their historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.

Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.

This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.

This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.

As I research the Bible and learn to read for understanding there are some very interesting results I find. I have been seeking reasoning behind verse 8 that tell us that "a new king arose who knew not Joseph".

This seems preposterous on its face as Joseph was the reason Egypt had its great wealth and had been saved from destruction from the drought that would have wiped out most of the known world at the time. Save for Joseph.

If there was any viability to there historical record keeping, and it was fairly vast there would be no reason that any king or Pharaoh consecutively reigning would not have had a grasp on the historical record of their own country.

Then in verse 10 the administration is discussing the possibility of a national security dilemma with the "foreign nationals" having grown to such a large number. They call for them to be "got them up and out of the land". But they set task masters over them thereby not removing them from the land but retaining them for slave labor.

This account is telling to the psychology of our humanity and an excellent study on sociology.

This fact runs through most of history where a tyrant arises and the citizenry becomes docile and allow for the terrible actions of a few people that ruin the lives of millions. When the fact remains the amount of people that are being placed under subjection are easily more than the oppressor. Sheer numbers warrant that no one should ever be able to contrive any form of oppression over a mass number of people. But yet it happens. Why? Because of no leadership? A very interesting thought and I continue to question why it is still happening today.

Acts 5:27-42 kjv, Galatians 5:1 kjv, Ephesians 6:24 kjv,

Exodus 1:15-17 kjv, Daniel 3 kjv, Daniel 6 kjv,

Matthew 7:13-15 kjv, Titus 2:13 kjv, Rev 13:15 kjv,

Proverbs 29:25 kjv:

The Nation of Israel was promise to Abram gen15:13

Genesis 25:23-28, Genesis 32:1,24,25,26,27,28, Genesis 35:10, Genesis 46:2, Genesis 46:5, * Genesis 50:24, Exodus 1:1-5, * 1Kings 18:31, * Psalms 14:7, Psalms 105:10, interesting how this scripture is broken down like this 'And confirmed the same unto Jacob for a law,' 'and to Israel an everlasting covenant ' 2 Samuel 7:7,

They are descendents, of Jacob aka "Israel' the lineage of CHRIST Jesus, Matthew 1,

Hopefully these are helpful

Who are considered the Israelites?

Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 37, Genesis 39, Genesis 40, Genesis 41, Genesis 47, Genesis 50:22,23, Exodus 1:1-7, Exodus 1:8-12. Note Exodus 1:11,20, Exodus 2:1, please note: John 8:39, biblical times lineage of Levi & Abraham very significant, therefore they would call themselves or other's by the name, many generations. Matthew 1:1, Matthew 22:42, Exodus 6:16-27, Exodus 12:40,41,

Hope this helps.

Dan This is a time frame between when Joseph first got there under one pharoah and down the road another

pharoah became ruler and as it says in Exodus 1:8 he knew not Joseph and started dealing wickedly with

the children of Israel.

As I begin in Exodus, may the Lord bless my intake of His Word.

I find it wonderful that the Lord greatly increased the people of Israel while in Egypt. They went in as a clan and will leave as a nation. He preserved them over an above what would normally happen in times of slavery, hardship, and opposition. He most likely made the Egyptians turn on them and enslave them so that they would WANT to leave. In generations before they were enslaved, they had a privileged status because of Joseph. Now, a few hundred years later, they were now being despised, counted as suspicious and a thread to the Egyptian rulership. the Hyksos (a Semitic people) had already come into Egypt (after the Israelites) and overthrown the Egyptian rulers, ruling for some time. The Hyksos were eventually overcome and expelled from the Egyptian territory they occupied near the Israelites settlement in Goshen. So, it was probably reasonable for the Egyptians to think that the Israelites may join forces with the Hyksos and overtake Egypt, as had happened before. Killing of infants was probably a way to ensure reduce the population of any future generations, but still preserved the work force for the projects the government had the slaves perform.

It seems throughout the history of Abraham's people, there was a love/hate relationship with Egypt. Egypt spared Abraham's seed from famine on several occasions and in later times, the Israelites joined forces with the Egyptians to fight against invaders from the north (Selucids) and east. But other times, Egypt was aggressive towards Israel when Egypt wished to expand its rule into Palestine.

Amen Brother Jesse!!

Fanita When we confess Romans 10:9+10 we receive Gods gift of Holy spirit from that point on being in

Christ is to walk by Gods word in action via the spirit given us, better known as fellowship with Christ and God.

Fanita,

For me, being in Christ Jesus would mean that I have received Him into my life as my Lord and Savior. He is in me and I am in Him and nothing can separate me from Him. Jesus said in John 14:20, "At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye (in me), and I in you. So Jesus is making a connection for us here.

In Colossians 2:9, Paul says "For in Him, (in Christ), dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily" or in bodily form. When we receive Christ, and we are born of His Spirit, we have the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit living inside of us. Not part of Him, all of Him. You know how long it is going to last? Forever!

We have to understand that we have a spirit. And when God's Spirit comes into our spirit, we become one, never to be undone. His Spirit is in our spirit. And when we die, when our spirit leaves our body, He's taking us. His Spirit and our spirit will never be separate from now, throughout eternity!

So this is what it means to me to be in Christ Jesus. I am in Him, and He is in me.

Fanita Verses pertaining to in Christ or in Christ Jesus or of Christ which is always in reference to the son of God seated at Gods Right hand in the Heavenlies and the power and authority of that position spiritually. Romans 1:16 3:24 7:4 8:!+2 Notice no condemnation In Christ Jesus 8:9 of Christ basically whole chapter about Christ and walking by the

spirit of God which is Christ in us the Hope of Glory. We were saved by the Humiliated one our Lord Jesus Christ, we walk

in the Exalted Resurrected Christ spiritually. Read all the verses concerning the above mentioned context its

dynamite.

Fanita This is a daily moment by moment spiritual walk and lifestyle. You should look in the church epistles

and write down the places this specific term is used. It relates to where Gods sees us how he sees us what He's

given us the power available to us how we should think about us how God thinks about us. It is Most used In

in the Epistle to the Ephesians. In Gods eyes spiritually we are seated in the heavenlies in Christ!

What does it mean to be in Christ Jesus?

Good, you're at the right site. Start reading the WORD written inside by clicking the Books, I like Luke when I started that was great to show me as new study who Christ Jesus was, is & is to come. Hover over the scripture here, should bring you straight to it.

Luke 1:1-4, you can continue to read by clicking read full chapter the scroll down, click tab on edges to next chapter, etc. Many people enjoy Psalms, I didn't enjoy it as much as a new beginner study but do enjoy it much more now after years of study.

Psalms 1:1-3,

U may enjoy Exodus, which actually begins in Genesis 37:1-36, continues : Genesis 39:1-23, Genesis 40:1-23, Genesis 41:1-57, Genesis 42:1-38, Genesis 43:1-34, Genesis 44:1-34,

[Note this scripture chapter 44, Genesis, if you noticed we skipped Genesis 38, because it jumps from Joseph to Judah. Now if you read Genesis 38:1-30, you can understand a few things on deeper level = Judah maybe knows painful loss of children at this point in his life & even the difference of love towards children of his "loved wife". Next very importance of Judah's sacrifice for others, resemblance of Jesus sacrifice being beloved Son of GOD. John 3:16, ]also interesting Tamar, bore to Judah the son in Jesus documented lineage Matthew 1:1-3]

Back to story : Genesis 45:1-28, (forgiveness), Genesis 46:1-34, Genesis 47:1-12 (Redemption) Genesis 47:27-31,

Now note: Genesis 47:13-26 , Genesis 12:1-3, Genesis 12:10, Genesis 12:11-16, * Genesis 12:13-20, Genesis 16:3, Genesis 16:6-11, Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 21:8-21, my own opinion Deuteronomy 32:35-36, Romans 12:19.

These moments in Genesis leading up to how & why Israel came into bondage. Exodus 1:1-8, continue reading Exodus 1:22, please continue to read all of Exodus.

One more encouraging note :) Hebrews 11:22, Psalms 105:1-45,

Furthermore on this site under the 1611 Version tab you can scroll to see more history on the Bible.

Hopefully these inspire a new lifetime desire of deeper study

It was tragic & horrible like at the time Moses was born. Exodus 1:1-22, Matthew 2:2,3, Matthew 2:16, fear, insult, hatred, motivated them perhaps the most.

Hi. I really appreciate the feedback you guys provide. It is top level. I am looking for exodus typology.

Thank you!.

Hi Betty. The Pharaoh seen in Genesis chapter 39 onwards cannot be correctly identified. Assuming the years that Joseph was there in Egypt, first with Potiphar, then the Pharaoh appeared to be Sesostris III (1878-1843 BC). He has also been referred to as Senwosret III.

The Pharaoh (first mentioned in Exodus 1:8) & seen again in Exodus chapter 3 onwards, also cannot be verified. Either he was Amenhotep I (1546-1525 BC) or Thutmoses I (1525-1508 BC). So, to answer your question, it was definitely a different Pharaoh in Moses' day to the one Joseph knew. And of course, there were many Pharaohs in-between, at least ten pharaohs.

The very station in life that your friend finds demeaning is rather a great honor and a gift from God.

From the beginning, man was created to work for God ( Genesis 2:15). The woman was then specially created as the help most suitable to accomplish that purpose ( Genesis 2:20-25).

The Lord's value system is quite opposite what the world judges worthwhile. If your friend knows the forgiveness and redemption gained by Jesus Christ's sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection from the dead, then she has an eternal purpose and reward in the perfect will of God. ( 1 Corinthians 15:58, 1 Peter 3)

Being an excellent mother carries a far greater weight of glory and influence than any of the vain achievements or self promotion touted in this world's marketplace. ( Proverbs 31:10-31)

The Bible has many accounts of women who by faith achieved great things for the Lord, including:

Sara: Hebrews 11:11-12

Rebekah: Genesis 24-27

Leah and Rachel: Genesis 29-

Shiphrah and Puah: Exodus 1:15-21

Moses' mother and sister Miriam: Exodus 2

Rahab: Joshua 2, Joshua 6

Deborah: Judges 4

Jael: Judges 4

Naomi and Ruth: Ruth 1-4

Hannah: 1 Samuel 1-2

Esther: Esther 1-10

Elisabeth: Luke 1

Mary: Matthew 1-

Martha and Mary: Luke 10, John 11

The faithful women at the crucifixion of Jesus after the disciples fled: Matthew 27:55-56

Mary Magdalene: Mark 16, John 20 - (The very first person to meet the risen Lord Jesus Christ),

along with many other notable followers in the early church.

Revelation 9:16 = 200 mega ton warheads. This is not a standing army.

I think it was both. He could have fallen from a branch of the tree and had his guts come out when he hit the ground.

Did Judas die in the Potter's Field with his guts laying open or hung his self on a tree?

To learn that answer, one would need to go back a fair bit - back to Genesis chapter 37. You probably know the story, or can read about it from there, but in a nutshell, Joseph was sold into slavery by his brothers to the Midianites who took Joseph into Egypt. When in Egypt, these slave traders sold Joseph to Potiphar, an officer to Pharaoh. Joseph served him faithfully except when Mrs. Potiphar accused Joseph of attempted rape & so Joseph also became a prisoner.

In time, Joseph, being blessed by God was called to interpret the Pharaoh's dream which resulted in Joseph being honoured with a high position & even given an Egyptian wife. Joseph was still a young man at 30 yrs of age when there was a general famine throughout, but Joseph had the wisdom to store up grain for such an occasion so even other countries round about came to him to buy grain. With that, Jacob, Joseph's father, sent his sons (Joseph's brothers) also to Egypt to buy food, & they didn't realize who they would have to deal with: their brother whom they sold into slavery. But Joseph forgave them their sin & even Pharaoh invited Joseph's family to move over to Egypt & settle there. However, Jacob was old & died & in time, Joseph himself died at 110 yrs of age & was buried in Egypt.

So Egypt became the home for Israel (= Jacob), but the old Pharaoh also died & a new Pharaoh came into power, "a new king that knew not Joseph" ( Exodus 1:8) & instead of continuing to enjoy freedom & prosperity in Egypt, all the children of Israel became slaves to the Egyptians & even harder bondage. But God still had a plan to free Israel from bondage, so Moses comes onto the scene, even avoiding death as a baby by God's providence. And you know the rest of the story.

I think you're referring the tribe of Levi. If so, Levi was a son of Jacob, who was also called Israel ( Genesis 32:28). You can see the names of Israel's other sons in Exodus 1:1-5. And then we read of Levi's sons in Exodus 6:16-19 and all these were appointed by God to serve Him in the Tabernacle ( Numbers 3:5-10), while the other sons of Israel had other appointments throughout their journeyings towards the Promised Land.

Verse 17:The Hebrew midwives feared God more than man and this kept them from becoming blood guilty.

I agree 100%. In the US there are currently 2 presidential candidates and one is for killing babies and the other isn't. I don't know how a Christian in good conscience can vote for someone who wants to commit evil and mass-murder.

Sounds like modern day abortion, as for killing babies. We need to fight this evil in our land by turning away from the political party that advocates abortion at any stage of pregnancy.

Dear Annabeth,

The Sabbath is Saturday, and has been since God created the world and rested on the 7th day Sabbath.

Mark 2:27-28

27. And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

Many (way too many) of the modern church's today no longer teach that Christians should adhere to the 4th commandment/sabbath, they even go further and teach that all of the commandments are minimized, or no longer in affect. they say they are old laws given during the Old Testament times, and really don't pertain since Christ died on the cross and has risen we are NOW free from the Law. This thinking is inconcevable ....if you really read and understand the scriptures.

When, ministers or others say that we don't need to follow the 4th commandment or the other commandments; I ask them about explaining away this verse by Jesus below:

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Silence......

God Bless