Discuss Exodus 1 Page 3

I believe that many Christians truly love God. What I don't understand is why most Christians believe that the Sabbath is done away with or that it is Sunday. The other nine commandments are fine, so why omit this one that identifies God as creator, Lord and owner of the universe? The idea that we are no longer under law just does not cut it. No society, nothing in nature, nothing mechanic can operate without laws.Without law there would be no grace . Therefore if someone were to say we are no longer under law, how do we get grace? The Law! If you are speeding on the road and is stopped by an officer to get a ticket, it is because you have broken the law. If you beg or he decides to give you a chance this time, that's grace, based on him giving you a chance because you broke the law. Some texts to consider

Romans 3: 31

Romans 6:15

Romans 7:7

Exudos 20: 8-11

James 2:10

Revelations 22:14

For more information about how Sabbath worship was changed to Sunday, visit the Roman Catholic website. God bless you dear reader.

Hi Ann,

To reply to someone one must click the Reply button below one's comment. It sounded like you were trying to respond to someone so I'm mentioning that.

If I'm reading your comment correctly, it sounds like you're comparing yourself to the Israelites that were enslaved in Egypt and that you in the USA today are much worse off. Did I understand your comment correctly?

If so, I'd like to learn more about why that would be, because I know you have the freedom to read the Bible on this website, which is great- the Israelites didn't have this. Second, you have an internet connection, Third you have a computer, tablet, or even a smart phone in order to view this page- and Israelites who were slaves worked all the time and didn't have such luxuries, and you live in the USA, which is a free country with no slavery. Finally, you are fluent in English which shows you received a modern education, which the Israelite slaves didn't have either. Maybe you have other blessings too- these are just 5 I can deduce logically from your comment. Slavery was and still is a sin of the whole world with nearly all countries involved, including the USA, but most people were against it and that's why they lost the civil war. Everyone from that time died and everyone alive today in the USA is rich, privileged and free, unlike some other countries today. So it is a privileged country to live in with the average citizen making multiples more than the average wage of the world- many want to immigrate there for the great opportunities and the strongest GDP in the world.

Given that, are you truly worse off right now in the modern and free society of the USA than an abused, poor slave in Egypt from thousands of years ago? If you are in captivity, of course call 911. But if maybe I didn't interpret your comment right and if you're not worse off than a slave then maybe you instead have a prayer request? God bless...

That is terrible that you call the hebrews "the children of Isreal", they are no children...; they are are no God people....they did exactly as other heathens and people in area

.....they called upon God for material goods and land......and to be superior to others.....

They came to to egypt because there was a famine in thier to be promised land; it is true that God hepled joseph...their number increase by thousands.....by no way I am not endorsing what the mean pharoh instructed the midwives to do....

I have been in the USA for and with in few years forty years and I am treated much worse than that......this almost four thousant yeas later..............

Hello Mr Okeke

Just in case you're unsure of this word in the KJV, I'll start with the definition of "withholdeth". It is the old English for the modern word 'withhold'. It's main meaning is to hold back (something from someone who wants it); in other words, to keep or hold something to oneself and to refuse to give or grant it to others. In some contexts, it can instead mean to restrain or control oneself from an action or expression

The morality, and ethics (a recommended list of right behaviours to follow; a good 'code of conduct'; standards for good procedure or actions to do when in particular situations), of withholding anything depends on what it is, who holds or controls it, who lacks it, the situation, and whether harm, loss, death, psychological suffering, or physical sickness to anyone might result from not giving a person access to it. So, sometimes it is not wrong &selfish to withhold something just because someone else demands it or feels entitled to it

Proverbs 11:26 gives an example of when it is definitely bad to withhold something of value to others who lack it. It is also a true principle because it accurately describes real situations that do happen

Example: Joseph caused corn and grain or other preservable crops to be collected & stored as a resource for a future expected famine ( Genesis 41:46-49). Some bible translators were wrong to use the word "hoard" in Prov 11:26 because it means to overstock, and Joseph certainly did collect much more than needed. He could do that without depriving anyone of food at that time because Egypt's land & farmers produced an oversupply. When the famine came the corn was sold, likely at a reasonable price, and distributed fairly. So he was blessed with popularity, respect, obedience, honor & memorial ( Genesis 41:54-57 + 45:16 + 50:26; Exodus 1:8) because he did not withhold corn from people at risk of starvation. In contrast, Joseph Stalin starved Ukrainians in the 1932&'33 Holodomor, a first ever man-made famine

You need to get into Matthew 5. You life will be much more pleasant. Read this link.

Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

Comment:

If someone curses you; the way you turn that curse into dust is to bless the one who cursed you. It turns the curse away from you. Christians don't get mad and get even. It just gets you into trouble.

If you forgive....it releases God to get involved in the other persons life. That's how it works.

Are there any curses in the bible that last longer than the third and fourth generations? I am particularly interested in a curse against someone who has transgressed against people who have less than them. Thank you for any help you can give me.

I find it interesting that 11 of these 12 names are written in Revelation 7:5-8 where God seals their foreheads.

Manasses instead of Dan.

I would give this 1-10 a 10 because this is the bible readdddd the bibleeeeeeeee always you need to do something you at home bored read the bible it is easy point blank period!

when did heaven hell show up in writing its not in the old testament moe or job didnt use it God is God heaven and hell is right here on earth mankind has turned heaven into a living hell and only till he see the sun for life will he be able to live. ask me truth

This is not about immigration people. This is about the 'fear (reverence) of God' and faithfulness to HIM. He blesses those who love HIM, believe in HIM, trust in HIM and obey HIM.
It is not a "slavery" obedience, it is obedience in love to HIM. God was bringing about a 'people' of whom God was using to bring about salvation, grace and mercy!

Who in the world has ever left their home for a "randomly chosen" country? Migrants come to America to find a better life, often because of life-threatening or intolerable conditions at home. They choose America because we proclaim, "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free... Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed, to me." A promise we are now betraying.

If I leave my country for another randomly chosen by me then I should expect to have priority and rights over the existing citizens of that country? And if they resist me then they're immigrant-phobic and need to change, not me? I wonder if this is belief is a falsehood. The Bible says to respect others Luke 6:31 and not give favoritism, so I think this idea seems untrue.

Immigration leads to hard working ways? That's your comment?

Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses. Its very clean that this Raamses is a city. Maybe named after Raamses the past ruler.

The chapter reads like a modern news article in places.Fear of alien cultures overrunning the natives.Immigration leads to hard working ways and a strength of character that natives take for granted, however in the ancient theme of hospitality expulsion is dangerous to rites. However, is this an err by the Israelites for not leaving for their Canaan lands? They would have had to struggle to retake

This chapter talks about how Israel were very fruitful and multiplied more than the Egypians. It reminds me of the scripture that says "If If God had not been on our side, ye sons of Jacob would be consumed.

persevereing in faith while suffering and knowing god will rescue and reward your faithfulness

Verses 15-17~Shiphrah and Puah wouldn't just obey orders, they were bold because they feared Jehovah God more than any man.

Ahiests use Exodus 1:11 to discredit the Bible because it indicates that Ramesses is the Pharoah at this time, and if so, the Egyptian chronology doesn't match with archeology and discredits Jews being in Egypt. However, how do we know that this is Ramesses? Maybe this pharaoh simply named the city after Ramasees? The documentary PATTERNS OF EVIDENCE: The Exodus, brought this to my attention.

Verse 9~The new Pharaoh was suspicious of the Israelites without just cause. Sometimes people may not like us but we can't let that get to us, we just have to be concerned with being fully pleasing to Jehovah God.

It is a book of how generations emerges. Inter mariges brings about increase of a people , tribe and also leads to church growth. The book of exudos paints a picture of government tenureship and how it could be oppressive and run with fear and evil intentions sometimes.

Verse 6~This is a good verse to give the definition of a generation. Those who are part of a generation can be different ages, but they are all contemporaries. Knowing this can help us to understand the meaning of the word generation at Matthew 24:34.

Exodus is such a striking chapter. It so embodies the tests which God grace us with during our lives to test our faith and strength of character. It serves as an allegory for how we will all have times of relative slavery in our lives, but God stands with us and we must trust in His plan. Love to you all.

Exodus is Amazing like the Lord our God a most high and mighty God

Hello Maggie; On saying that God puts us in situations; we should be careful! Jesus said that we will have tribulation and toil and sorrow in this life, but we should be of good courage because He has overcome the world. God tempts no one; but we are all tempted when we are drawn away by our own lusts and enticed. If we cave in to those temptations, it is sin! We are also in a world out of course!

I think this was a test of the younger generation of Israel, to test their faith and to only rely on God for their deliverance and freedom. Trust him at his word and obey him and give him all the praise and worship and honor belong to him, and know that he can do just what he said he would do, I am in a situation now, I called out to get help, lost my job my grandchildren just wait on him

I think it is a real test of the faith: of the new generation of Israel , sometimes God puts us in uncomfortable positions to test is to see if we trust totally in him, his word says the fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the Lord shall be safe. God is are only help in any situation, have faith in God as Abraham did was willing to slay his son for God in we trust.

The God of ISRAEL Is an awesome God,he built houses to midwifes,why?,they feared Him .Amen

Exodus the book is awesome. Its a very exciting and gripping book. The power of God man oh man.

I think it talks about god