Discuss Exodus 20

  • Azzan77 - 4 months ago
    Greeting's

    Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."

    Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates"

    John 14:21"He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

    John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Fathers commandments, and abide in his love."

    Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

    Blessings
  • Azzan77 - 5 months ago
    Greeting's

    Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."

    Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"

    John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

    John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

    Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

    Blessings
  • Azzan77 - 6 months ago
    Greeting's

    Acts 17:2

    "And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures,"

    Acts 13:14

    "But when they departed from Perga, they came to Antioch in Pisidia, and went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and sat down."

    Exodus 20:10

    "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"

    Blessings
  • Azzan77 - 6 months ago
    Greeting's

    Exodus 20:8

    "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."

    Hebrews 10:16

    "This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;"

    John 15:10

    "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

    John 14:21

    "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

    John 14:15

    "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

    1 John 3:22

    "And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight."

    Revelation 22:14

    "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

    Matthew 24:35

    "Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

    Blessings
  • Chris - In Reply - 6 months ago
    Hello Dmpsip. There's not very much that is similar between the Sabbath and Sunday. The Sabbath Day was instituted by God for His chosen people Israel with the other Laws in the Ten Commandments plus hundreds of other Laws. Exodus 20:8; Exodus 31:13-17. As part of the Sabbath, the Israelite had to conform to rules about work, home activities, and travel. If these were broken, then punishment was certain. So Sabbath was a day of complete rest and of course, religious activities centered around the Tabernacle, Temple or Synagogue and they were more relevant on the Sabbath Day when folk ceased from their usual labors on the other six days.

    Sunday, or first day of the week, was a day set aside by early Christians to come together to worship the Lord & learn from His Word ( Acts 20:7), separate from the Jewish Sabbath and probably in remembrance and inline with the Lord's Resurrection on the first day of the week. And of course, Sunday can be utilized as a day of rest, spiritual contemplation, and being of service to others. So, apart of this aspect of rest and spiritual exercises, not much else is similar to the Sabbath Day observance by Israel.

    However, Hebrews 4:9,10 states: "There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." And this rest has been promised to all who place their trust in Jesus. We look not just for that one day of rest from physical activity, but a true abiding rest in our Savior; resting from our efforts we made previously to please God, and now finding perfect rest by the ministry of His Spirit in our hearts & lives seven days a week.
  • Azzan77 - 6 months ago
    Greeting's

    Exodus 20:8

    "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."

    Blessings
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    The Beast and his image

    Although I just thought of this as today's topic of focus; I believe it is a crucial task in order to really understand the first commandment. Let's review what it says in Exodus 20:2-7

    2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

    3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

    4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

    5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

    6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

    7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

    Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

    In Deuteronomy 5 we see this caveat in verses 9-10:

    Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,

    The passage ends with God's love demonstrated toward the thousands that do love Him; signaling an end to what may be described as "generational curses". I use that term with some reservations based on God's teaching in Ezekiel that a son is not held guilty for his father's sins IF he is righteous-I am not focusing on curses as such in this posting.

    To better understand what conceptually is being studied here in regard to God's true image; as it were which clearly can't be represented either accurately or reverently we continue next post
  • Azzan77 - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Greeting's

    Exodus 20:8

    "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."

    Exodus 20:9

    "Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:"

    Exodus 20:10

    "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"

    John 14:21

    "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

    1 John 2:4

    "He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

    Blessings
  • Mybible7 - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Gerald, please provide bible tests to backup your comments. Lots of what you said is not supported by the Bible. Here is my response in readers digest format. Give me your email; my study is longer.

    Point One - Romans 14:5,6

    You referred to comments from Romans 14:5,6 where it seems to say that it makes no difference to God which days we keep holy. Actually, these verses do not concern any days that must be kept holy. This is proved by the context of the entire chapter.

    The Bible elsewhere teaches very plainly which days God made Holy and commands us to keep holy. They are found inGenesis 2:2,3, Exodus 20:8-11 and Leviticus 23.

    Point 2 - "Sabbath" in Strongs Concordance

    There were 116 verses containing the "Sabbath". I found one in Col 2:16 that mentioned "sabbath days" which is talking about feast days from the Mosiac law written by Moses.

    Point 3 - You said the "Lord is my Sabbath".

    I didn't find any reference in the whole Bible that says we can just ignore the 7th day Sabbath of the Lord and call it "the Lord is my Sabbath". This seems to be a way out when you can't find Bible texts to false doctrine.

    Point 4 - Sabbath in different time zones - come at different times.

    That is a weak argument. The point I would make is that when the 7th day Sabbath arrives in whatever time zone, then it should be observed. This would be the fulfillment of God's requirements. Ex 20:12, John 14:15,16

    Point 5 - Using parts of scripture instead of all to make a point.

    I myself use the texts in context ( 2 Tim 3:16,17)). If you indeed have an open mind about what to actually know that God has for you in His word the Bible, He will send the Holy Spirit to interpret it for you, so you will understand what He expects from you.

    Conclusion:

    Most friends keep all 9 , call themselves Christians. I keep all 10, they call me legalistic! The Bible say I love the Lord. LOVE GOD + GRACE + FAITH = ETERNAL LIFE
  • Azzan77 - In Reply - 8 months ago
    Greetings

    Proverbs 1:7 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instruction."

    Exodus 20:10 "But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:"

    John 14:21 "He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him."

    John 15:10 "If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love."

    Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

    Blessings
  • Richard H Priday - 11 months ago
    Psalm 16:11 Thou wilt shew me the path of life: in thy presence is fulness of joy; at thy right hand there are pleasures for evermore.

    Isaiah 54:1 Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear; break forth into singing, and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child: for more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife, saith the LORD.

    Heaven is; no doubt principally involved with the worship of the Triune God as primary; and relational with fellowship with other saints in His presence as secondary. In those of us in situations where we are single; or have no possibility of having children it can be depressing; admittedly. What is at the heart of any truly Godly relationship is the presence of the Lord; and we are to guard our hearts against anything getting in the way ( Prov. 4:23). As our hearts are desperately wicked ( Jeremiah 17:9) we need to take care not to attempt shortcuts or compromise in order to try to give God a "jump start" as to what we desire.

    First and foremost the Kingdom of God is to be sought after; and then the Lord will give us the desires of our heart ( Psalm 37:4).

    As a jealous God is towards His people ( Exodus 20:5) an earthly marriage in particular should covet the partnership with the covenant spouse in exclusion of all others in certain aspects of intimacy. No doubt there are applications which a couple should learn to practice in reaching out to others by working together as a team; something that takes hard work and sadly in many cases doesn't come to fruition as we often see only one of the two parties committed to local church attendance; etc.

    We must remember that as His children ultimately He knows what is best for us. When we compare the eternal weight of glory ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) to our current burdens that gives us a clear perspective on priorities of greater and lesser importance.

    I pray this forum will truly continue to help bear one anothers' burdens even with the anonymous forum.
  • Wheelz - In Reply - 1 year ago
    The bible never says not to make images. It clearly states in Exodus 20:4 any graven image. Graven image definition, from the Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, is "a statue or image that people worship as a god or as if it were a god."

    Remember, when Moses wrote Exodus, there were no verses or chapters. Read verse Exodus 20:4 and verse 5 together, and you will understand that God is saying "Thou shalt not make to thee any graven image, &, so as to worship it."

    Ask yourself, Did Moses sin when he built the Ark? I mean, he sanctioned the cherubic forms above the mercy-seat, the brazen serpent, and the lilies and pomegranates of the golden candlestick.

    Solomon placed lions on the steps of his throne. He had palm-trees, flowers, and cherubim on the walls of the Temple, "within and without" (1Ki_6:29). Surely, Solomon was not in sin when he built the temple.

    So, an image of its self is not wrong, it's when it becomes a graven image, which means idol, that it becomes a sin.

    Psalms 115:4-7 and Psalms 135:15-17. Idols of silver and gold. Eyes that do not see, ears that do not hear, mouths that do not speak, feet that do not walk, they have no breath in them.

    Colossians 1:15 tells us that Jesus is the image of the invisible God. John 14:9, Jesus-speaking says, "he that hath seen me hath seen the Father"

    Having an image is not the sin, it's when it becomes a graven image, "idol of worship" is the sin.

    There is so much more to say on this topic, but running out of room. God Bless.
  • T-rex - In Reply - 1 year ago
    If you believe God is truly invisible then what is the concern with someone replicating an image "of HIM" since that would not be possible, unless the concern is idolatry by looking at blank paper or at a cloudless sky? Your response mischaracterized my comment which I hope was not intentional. In that same deceptive sentence you also wrote "God says not to make ANY images of HIM", but that's not what Exodus 20:4 says. Read it again.
  • T-rex - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello- I've wondered the same before- what does the Bible say?

    I'm aware of 2 places mentioning the topic:

    Deuteronomy 5:8 - 5:10

    "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:" Exodus 20:4 KJV

    Israelites made a golden calf and worshipped it. (idolatry. )

    The verse says no graven images, or any likeness to heaven (maybe including sky, clouds, angels, sun, light) and anything in the earth (like water, maybe fish, whales, sea life, and probably fire and hell)?

    It explains the reason in verse 5: " Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"

    This means you are not to make graven images and worship anything other than God- probably not idols of anything- including heaven, sky, and the sea or in the earth (hell?).

    If someone can commit idolatry by a representation of something can't that person also do it by actually looking at it? Like the sun, sky, stars, or things below Earth? I think so, but does it mean never go outside because you might see the sky? I think the context shows God doesn't want any other gods before Him- and not bow down or worship anything else.

    Watch out for the devil's tricks because he uses twisted verses to try to remove Christianity and its messages from society- for example people so fearful of Christmas being the wrong date on 25th that they want to boycott Christian activities altogether during the holiday despite people coming to Christ by it, or people removing crosses or symbols, or posters, or photos of Christian activities, memes, or positive messages online over this. That is a win for satan. I don't think taking pictures or having Christian reminders or Bibles with crosses is what God is against, but worshipping false gods.
  • Azzan77 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Greetings

    Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

    Ephesians 3:6 This mystery is that the Gentiles are fellow heirs, members of the same body, and partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel.

    Galatians 3:28-29 There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed and heirs according to the promise.
  • Azzan77 - In Reply on Luke 13 - 1 year ago
    Blessings,

    Matthew 12:33 "Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit."

    Matthew 19:16 "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"

    Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

    Exodus 20:8-11 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work: 10But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: 11For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.
  • Bronco wildtrak 1 - 1 year ago
    Part 1

    What is sin today ? ? Is the Ten Commandments shows us that we are sinners ? ? Ten Commandments was given to Israel from Moses to follow and more laws were added. Here is the Ten Commandments in Exodus.

    Exodus 20:1-17

    1 And God spake all these words, saying,

    2I am theLordthy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

    3Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

    4Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.

    5Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I theLordthy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

    6And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

    7Thou shalt not take the name of theLordthy God in vain; for theLordwill not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

    8Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

    9Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

    10But the seventh day is the sabbath of theLordthy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

    11For in six days theLordmade heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore theLordblessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

    12Honour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which theLordthy God giveth thee.

    13Thou shalt not kill.

    14Thou shalt not commit adultery.

    15Thou shalt not steal.

    16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

    17Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

    Ray
  • David0921 - 1 year ago
    THE PROPHECY OF SIMEON (Part 13)

    In addition, we can think of 1 Kings 6:1, where we read: And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the fourth year of Solomon's reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.

    1 Kings 6:1 provides a 480-year time bridge from Israel going out of the land of Egypt to the fourth year of Solomon's reign, which was the year 967 B.C., when Solmon began to build the house of the LORD. Israel going out of the land of Egypt represents God's salvation plan. God declares, "I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage" ( Exodus 20:2). That is like, "I am Jehovah who has saved you." This physical representation of salvation occurred 430 years after the time Jacob went into the land of Egypt ( Exodus 12:40-41). It was the year 1447 B.C.

    According to I Kings 6:1, it was exactly 480 years later, that is, 480 years after 1447 B.C., the year 967 B.C., when Solomon began to build the temple. We have learned that the temple of the Old Testament was a representation of the New Testament congregations and churches. It was also a representation of Christ Himself. Remember, He told the Jews, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up" ( John 2:19). When did Jesus, the spiritual temple, come to this earth to be the temple? While we do not have absolute proof that Jesus was born in the year 7 B.C., all of the circumstantial evidence points to 7 B.C. as the year of His birth. And 7 B.C. is exactly 960 years after Solomon's temple foundation was laid in 967 B.C. Thus, the total period from the going out of Egypt in 1447 B.C. to the birth of Christ in 7 B.C. is 1440 years. The 480-year period is one-third of this 1440 years. The 960 years is two-thirds of this 1440 years.

    Cont in Part 14
  • ByHISgrace - In Reply - 1 year ago
    PART B

    Loretta, I am sorry for the confusion but I initially placed part B in the wrong place.

    HERE IT IS NOW:

    PART B

    You may have noticed that something happens before his demons abuse you. There is either a scent / smell/ noise, sound, a sudden odd taste in your mouth, a flutter against your skin etc. They do this to announce themselves and also to get permission from you. When you say nothing because you do not know they do not care. They see your silence as permission.

    So the second you hear or smell or taste or feel; speak out loud; THE LORD YESHUA REBUKES you with fire. Then immediately begin to read the bible verses that you wrote. Do this in your mind. Keep it up for a good 30 minutes. I promise you the neighbor is going to run out of his house. But you don't stop.

    You need weaponry. Remind yourself what the full armor is [ Ephesians 6:10-18]

    So go to Youtube and play this [Prayers that Route Demons] 24/7 . Find the one with the written prayers and say it along with the video. [Buy the book if you can] Do this every day. Do not stop. People who are committed to evil do not stop. They are dedicated.

    Choose the time to play it aloud. Midnight is a great time as this is the time when wicked people start their nonsense. But at sundown or sunrise is good also as these are time of change and new beginnings. I am suggesting these times because these are 3 of the 7 original prayer watches of the Hebrews.[ Mark 13:35]

    In the meantime. Go through your house and remove every occult item from your house including crosses, virgin marys [ Exodus 20:4] masks; things that you may have picked up on holidays made in heathen nations and dedicated to heathen gods etc . Confess for having these items in your home.

    Dedicate your space to YAH/GOD. How does that look? Imagine HIM to be there , as HE actually is there with you [ Ephesians 1:22]. Do not do, or say anything in your space that would displease HIM. Crazy music, sexually explicit, violence , wicked movies etc
  • ByHISgrace - 1 year ago
    PART B

    You may have noticed that something happens before his demons abuse you. There is either a scent / smell/ noise, sound, a sudden odd taste in your mouth, a flutter against your skin etc. They do this to announce themselves and also to get permission from you. When you say nothing because you do not know they do not care. They see your silence as permission.

    So the second you hear or smell or taste or feel; speak out loud; THE LORD YESHUA REBUKES you with fire. Then immediately begin to read the bible verses that you wrote. Do this in your mind. Keep it up for a good 30 minutes. I promise you the neighbor is going to run out of his house. But you don't stop.

    You need weaponry. Remind yourself what the full armor is [ Ephesians 6:10-18]

    So go to Youtube and play this [Prayers that Route Demons] 24/7 . Find the one with the written prayers and say it along with the video. [Buy the book if you can] Do this every day. Do not stop. People who are committed to evil do not stop. They are dedicated.

    Choose the time to play it aloud. Midnight is a great time as this is the time when wicked people start their nonsense. But at sundown or sunrise is good also as these are time of change and new beginnings. I am suggesting these times because these are 3 of the 7 original prayer watches of the Hebrews.[ Mark 13:35]

    In the meantime. Go through your house and remove every occult item from your house including crosses, virgin marys [ Exodus 20:4] masks; things that you may have picked up on holidays made in heathen nations and dedicated to heathen gods etc . Confess for having these items in your home.

    Dedicate your space to YAH/GOD. How does that look? Imagine HIM to be there , as HE actually is there with you [ Ephesians 1:22]. Do not do, or say anything in your space that would displease HIM. Crazy music, sexually explicit, violence , wicked movies etc change your environment...
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    (Acts Part 10):

    Acts 4:20 - For we cannot but speak the things which we have seen and heard.

    Literally, in the Greek text it says, "We cannot not speak." Because they know it's not them. And it's what they've seen and heard. We were witnesses of God's Spirit in us.

    So, he says whether it's right or wrong to obey you or not obey you, you are going to have to judge. But we cannot but speak in the name of Jesus!

    Acts 4:24 - And when they heard that, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God, which hast made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that in them is:

    And when they heard what the rulers had said, they lifted up their voice to God with one accord, and said, Lord, thou art God.

    The word "Lord" is a different word than what is usually translated Lord (KURIOS). This is the word DESPOT, for master. I kind of like that! Instead of calling Him Lord, calling Him Master. It has kind of a finality to it!

    Lord, Master, thou art God! This is from Exodus 20:11, who has made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all that is in them. You're the creator!

    Acts 4:29 - And now, Lord, behold their threatenings: and grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word,

    It says grant your servants, and the word servants is the word slaves, DULOS. Grant your slaves, that with all boldness they may speak the word. Now God's servants are threatened, and they call themselves slaves in front of the Master.

    Wow! In other words, "I am a slave serving the Master in predetermined circumstances." That's what it is! It is all designed by God. It doesn't require complaining. I am just a slave to serve the Master of the universe in His predetermined plan and council.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thanks again brother Jesse for these ongoing clarifications & teaching of biblical texts; and now looking forward to learning more from the Acts of the Apostles.

    I noted your Acts 2:3, "And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them"; where you've explained the "as of" denoting a similarity or appearance of fire, but not actually fire. Also, I found interesting that you have seen 'glossai' as pertaining to languages (i.e. the appearance of divided languages coming upon them, and presumably the apostles then spoke accordingly to those languages). I have always imagined that the 'tongues' here (glossai) spoke of the similarity or appearance to the human tongue, not referring specifically to language(s), but to its appearance as of a flickering flame resembling a tongue. So, your explanation is something quite new to me & worth bearing in mind.

    And back to the "as of" fire phrase; as you wrote this was not an actual fire, but resembled it. This could be the same word (hosei) used in Matthew 3:16, "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending LIKE (hosei) A dove, and lighting upon him". We see the illustration so often of a dove descending upon the Lord, that many Christians now believe that an actual dove, the shape of which the Holy Spirit assumed to come upon Jesus. Which of course is sacrilege according to the commandment ( Exodus 20:4,5; Deuteronomy 4:16-19). Rather, it seems that 'hosei' is used here as well, to show that the Holy Spirit's descent upon Jesus was seen just 'as a dove would flutter & glide towards the ground' and had nothing at all to do with an actual bird. I hope I'm using 'hosei' correctly in both Acts 2:3 & Matthew 3:16. Blessings.
  • RED APPLE TREATY 4 ME ONLY - 1 year ago
    Takes me back on God's Past faithfulness in my life working in my profession and today walking by faith not by sight trusting more fasting, praying, doing ministry in how Jesus Christ is the only God giving me liberty

    Exodus 20:3 KJV

    'Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

    giving me liberty.

    Liberty- Fairness and integrity Civil liberty, is on exemption from the arbitrary will of others, which exemption is second by established laws, which restrain every man from injuring, & controlling another.

    Ecclesiastes 3:1 KJV

    'To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: '

    My Respond:

    God has blessed me to obtain the fullness of God in season, time, every purpose under heaven. Giving me the ability to prove & reprove.

    Published and Word spoken by REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY
  • Momsage - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I say Amen to everything you have said except we do have to go further with God's commandment then just try. The Holy Ghost is with us so we CAN obey them. If you read then carefully in Exodus 20: 1-17, and Deuteronomy 5:22-33, you will see these are the God's guidelines to how we MUST live our lives for God in order to make it in.

    It's very simple: This is how a true believer and the 10 commandments are related to each other.

    1) True believers worship the one true God and will not have any other Gods to worship.

    2) A true believer does NOT make images nor bow down to them.

    3) True believers do not take the name of the Lord in vain.

    4) True believers set aside one day for rest.

    5) A true believer always gives respect and shows kindness to all people but especially to parents. 6) A true believer does not

    murder

    7) A true believer does not have sex with anyone in person or in mind except their spouse.

    8) A true believer does not steal

    9) A true believer does not lie (not matter how big or little a lie is or what color it is, a lie is a lie)

    10) A true believer is not jealous. God Bless :)
  • Through The Power And Spirit - 1 year ago
    All Praises To The MOST HIGH YAH In HaMashiac! I just read a comment that said, "Mashiac said keep the Commandments not the Statutes." I guess that person never looked up the definition of Commandment, Laws, Statutes, Ordinances, Mandate, Decree, Dictum, Mitzvah, Order, Canon or Precepts. If that person was right in their understanding, then Mashiac would've quoted Exodus 20:3

    "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." But Mashiac said Mark 12:29

    "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

    " Mark 12:30

    "And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment."

    Clearly this is a Law given by Moses in Deuteronomy 6:4

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:

    " Deuteronomy 6:5

    "And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might."

    If you believe that Mashiac only gave the 10 Commandments, what Commandment is Mark 12:29-30 cause He said its the first.
  • Chris - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello Naisa Koroi. In a short answer, I don't believe that worshiping God on a Sunday is breaking the 4th Commandment.

    Briefly, my reasons are as follows: this Commandment, alongwith the others, were given to God's people, Israel, for their behavior before God & their fellow-men ( Exodus 20:1-17). The Sabbath was purely a day set apart from all others - a day of complete rest, thus it was a holy (i.e. sanctified, separated) day from the other six days ( Exodus 31:15).

    The Sabbath Command never included the necessity to worship God, though it certainly could be used that way in the family home, & then later for functions within the Tabernacle of the Congregation, other sabbath observances, & latterly, in the Synagogue.

    The Sabbath Day required that no work be done, even cooking or picking up sticks, moving furniture, lighting a fire, etc. ( Exodus 35:2,3). So the Jewish Sabbath has no correlation to when Christ's Church chooses to worship the Lord today. Some might choose to hold the Sabbath as a day of rest from all work, but for worship, believers in Christ can worship on the first day of the week ( Acts 20:7), or any day of the week for that matter; even as Jesus told the Samaritan woman, "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in SPIRIT and in TRUTH: for the Father seeketh such to worship him" ( John 4:23).

    It's no longer the day of worship or the place of worship that matters (whether on Mt. Gerizim in Samaria, or even in the temple at Jerusalem, as Jesus told the woman), but that our worship, whether done in private or with a Church congregation, is done in the realm of the Holy Spirit & in Truth. So Naisa, may your heart be comforted that the day of corporate worship doesn't matter to the Lord, but that we worship Him with pure hearts, and in sincerity & Truth. Be blessed.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Prophetic significance in family blessings.

    The earliest blessing in scripture is for Ishmael who is said in Genesis 16:12. It isn't exactly something to be desired; except for the fact that in the family lineage there would be many descendants. He was said to be a wild "donkey" of a man; and cause much contention and strife among others. Moving on to Genesis 26:39-40 we see the blessing of Esau; and it wasn't faring much better; he was to live by the sword and eventually throw the "yoke" off his back of basically servitude to Jacob. Finally; we see Jacob's blessing of his sons; to become the 12 patriarchs; which is a mixed bag with particularly gruesome futures for Issachar (once again like a donkey" and of course Dan being as a snake. Reuben the firstborn committed sin and thus lost privileges for that position; and altogether we may say that Judah had the best blessings offered.

    These patterns are interesting in that prophetically God's will was ultimately done. We can see this perhaps clearest with God explaining the futures of Jacob and Esau before they were even born. We also see the future of the bondservant (Hagar) and free woman (Sarah) and how it affects the world still to this day with the Arab (mainly Muslim) populus in the surrounding lands of the sons of Sarah and Abraham in Israel. We could say that this most clearly demonstrates what we may call a generational curse as well as blessings that are inherited.

    Jeremiah 35:19 is perhaps one of the most interesting prophetic statements; in this case to adults who had been obedient to God from the start. They were promised because of that and passing the test on not drinking wine or strong drink that they would perpetually have someone to serve God; at least seemingly promising a believer to be in the family lineage throughout the generations. As to curses; we do well to meditate on Exodus 20:5 and 6 we see generational affects but those who LOVE God He shows mercy ending the curse.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Concluding thoughts: Uniqueness of Christ

    My post yesterday discussed Christ as firstfruits; specifically that raised from the dead. HIs uniqueness includes the following:

    Being God in the flesh. This makes Him superior to all of His creation whether man or angels. Yet He had to be made a little lower than the angels to live vicariously that is in our place yet suffer all things as we do without sin. Hebrews enlightens us on this subject in many places and I would suggest studying the entire book as I did a few years back with a small group.

    Besides His sinless life; we have His death and resurrection; which demonstrated His victory over the grave and sin and His atonement for God's chosen sons and daughters.

    He has a name only He knows .( Revelation 19:12)

    He has been given all authority over heaven and earth ( Matthew 28:18)

    He has the keys to the gates of hell ( Revelation 1:18)

    He will rule forever ( Isaiah 9:7; Luke 1:33)

    One aspect that is sometimes glossed over is that God can be jealous; and for HIs own Name's sake and also desire worship and be sinless. This is something that for any created being; man or angel that leads to destruction. This is why any image man creates of his conception of God is so dangerous and warned against in verses such as Exodus 20:4. That verse doesn't specifically mention God but it states anything in heaven above or earth below thus the Godhead would also be included. God can't be seen by human eyes ( John 1:18). Christ is by far the most represented in paintings and sculpture of the members of the Godhead; but with man's idolatrous heart he is led to worship these images much as he does with Mary and the "saints" whether real or imaginary ones in terms of their earthly ministry. The image of the cross is only beneficial as an offense and a curse; and is only beneficial to remind us of Christ's sufferings but also we need to look beyond that to His Resurrection and current ministry ( Heb. 7:25).
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Jpiegaro. This is a subject that has been debated often & it really boils down to how one approaches & understands God's Word on this matter, as also with other subjects.

    My understanding on this, indeed on all matters pertaining to Israel, is that the Ten Commandments which includes the necessity of keeping the Sabbath Day holy was wholly incumbent upon Israel & Israel alone. No other people received the Decalogue, as also with circumcision, the festivals, sacrifices, priestly functions, other laws, etc. Unfortunately, when the Jew turned to Christ, as also with the Gentile, the knowledge they had or we received from the Old Testament are presumed to be automatically passed onto & applied to those now In Christ. We readily acknowledge the laws concerning our relationship to God & to one another, as given in the OT, but then imply that Sabbath-keeping must also apply to us. We do so in ignorance.

    Shabbat (Hebrew, from the root, Shin-Bet-Tav), being the seventh day, means 'to cease, to end, to rest', & Israel was to sanctify (set apart) this day for cessation from all activity, even as the LORD Himself hallowed it ( Exodus 20:10,11). There could be no transposition of this Sabbath Day to any other day; hence, it was never 're-converted' to become a Sunday, thus the term 'Christian Sabbath' really is a misnomer. One can use the 7th day, or any day, as a day of rest as desired, but I don't ever see it as a requirement for those who are In Christ Jesus, as those now under a new Law given us (even, imputed in us) by the Holy Spirit ( Romans 8:2) & also being led of the Spirit ( Galatians 5:18). When we look at the Gospels & the Acts of the Apostles, we find many references to the Sabbath Day, since either the Law was still in force (pre-Cross) or the apostles took advantage of the day for ministry to the Jews in synagogues (in Acts). But in NT Church practise, they met on the 1st Day of the Week, with no reference to the old Law of Sabbath(s).
  • Momsage - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Exodus 20: 13 King James Bible

    Thou shalt not kill.

    Kill: ratsach: to murder, slay


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