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Greetings brother Ron. If I was an attorney for the befuddled, I would win every flawed Bible case. The confusion needs to be overlooked because no one wants to admit how error riddled it is. I'm not here to trash it, but tell you that I enjoy studying these editing anomalies. It is pure human error in prose.

In this case, dissect Genesis 3:22

22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us. us = plural

God Bless

Verse 3 thou shalt have no other gods before me .

The very first commandment.

Why did The Lord not say us ?

Because He is the only one God .

The KJV bible references the cross a total of 28 times in the NT, I find no reference to stake, and also to fulfill John 3:14 he would have needed to be lifted up on a cross. I hope this helps.

John 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Matthew Chapter 27:38-41 Then were there two thieves crucified with him, one on the right hand, and another on the left.

And they that passed by reviled him, wagging their heads, And saying, Thou that destroyest the temple, and buildest it in three days, save thyself. If thou be the Son of God, come down from the cross. Likewise also the chief priests mocking him, with the scribes and elders, said,

Mark 15:32 "Let Christ the King of Israel descend now from the cross, that we may see and believe. And they that were crucified with him reviled him."

Hi Bob.

I've heard good arguments for both,

Important thing is what his dying meant to us.

God bless

Did Jesus die on a stake or a cross

Hello Bridget,

Thank you for your comments.

You quoted Exodus 20:10 to say that we must observe the sabbath. However, you quoted from the Old Testament given to the ancient nation of Israel. Could you provide me a verse from the New Testament which commands the Church to keep the Sabbath? If not, why not? Why would the Apostles never instruct or remind the Christian Church to keep the sabbath if it was that important?

You also quoted Malachi 2:6 that God never changes. But, then why did God change the law of circumcision? The Old Testament said you must be circumcised - a commandment of God at Leviticus 12:3. But, in the New Testament, we are told that circumcision is not necessary. See Galatians 5:2. Also, why does Hebrews 7:12 say the the priesthood was changed? I thought you said that God never changes. In the Old Testament, the priesthood was Levitical but in the New Testament, the priesthood is according to the order of Mechizedek - another change of God. See Hebrews 7:11.

The Apostle Paul, at Galatians 4:10, scolds the Galatians for keeping the Old Testament rituals. The brackets are mine.

Galatians 4:10

"Ye observe (sabbath) days, and (lunar) months, and (festivals) times, and (sabbatical) years."

No wonder the Apostle Paul asks the question at:

Galatians 4:21 "Tell me, ye that desire to be under the (Mosaic Old Testament) law, do ye not hear the law?"

Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

I welcome your comments, Bridget.

Good day.

Bridget, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

You quoted thatwe must keep Exodus 20:10

Do you keep:

Leviticus 25:4

Leviticus 23:11

Leviticus 23:15

Leviticus 23:16

Leviticus 23:24

Leviticus 23:32

Leviticus 23:39

Exodus 35:3

Leviticus 16:29-32

Numbers 28:10

Exodus 31:14

Numbers 28:9

These are ALL SABBATHS

God, my Bible, says the seventh day is the Sabbath. Exodus 20:10.

Saturday, or the seventh day in the weekly cycle, is the only day in all of scripture designated using the term Sabbath.

Constantine did think he changed the Sabbath. Daniel 7:25 ... .and think to change times and laws. Because he thought doesn't mean he changed it. On March 7, 321, however, Roman Emperor Constantine I issued a civil decree making Sunday a day of rest from labor, stating: All judges and city people and the craftsmen shall rest upon the venerable day of the sun.

In Malachi 3:6, God says I am God I change not. Did God change the Sabbath? You admit that Constantine changed the Sabbath or thinks he did because so many people follow his supposed change.

Acts 5:29 in my bible says we ought to obey God rather than man, this includes Constantine, kings, presidents, emperors, popes, etc.

God who is omniscient, gave the days numbers which are constant. Sabbath is the seventh day in over 100 languages.



No wonder the world is in mass confusion. A four year old can count from one to seven. Its not rocket science. Look at your standard every day calendar, Start with the first day count seven.

My prayer is that we all come to unity on God's word, Not on my or your opinion.

I am praying that all will believe the wisest mind in the universe GOD, JESUS Christ, THE HOLY GHOST.

Will be praying for you all.

Hi Chris Sabbath and marriage was instituted from creation and these institution are targeted by the devil in these last days. We are to adhere to Gods commandment but the Fourth which is His Sabbath bears his seal. Exodus 20:11 For in six days the LORD (name) made (creator) heaven and earth (domain) the sea and all that in them. Can't remember the text now but it says from one Sabbath to another shall ALL flesh come before to worship. Glen has pointed you to a youtube video and I also told you to read the book National Sunday Law a very thin book. After doing these let me know your understanding. Be bless.

Hi Chris. Ok Read Exodus 20: 8-11. in reference to the seal of God. Verse 11 bears the seal of God. It shows Christ's name, title and domain (Jesus or Lord, creator and heaven and earth). Just like a Justice of the peace. His/seal bears the name, title and district, parish or state. Revelation 14:9-11. The mark of the beast is the changing of God's Sabbath to Sunday by the beast power, Rome. It actually is the very thing they claim shows their authority is higher than that of God's word. Why does God tell us such terrible things will happen to those who receive this mark? God does not punish someone for breaking a law that he honestly knows nothing about, and never has a chance to learn about. The final test will be set up with two choices; obey God and keep His 7th Day Sabbath, be persecuted by man and be saved or obey man-made laws to force people to keep Sunday and receive the seven last plaques and be loss. Get a hold of this book National Sunday Law and read prayerfully. Stay bless and be bless.

Sorry, but I do not believe your answer, answers my question. Is a person's job a reason to break one on God's Ten Commandments, written by God, not Moses, on tables of stone? In Exodus 20:8-11, God specially states that the Sabbath (Saturday to us) is His Holy Day, "The Sabbath is My Holy Day"....

In the Bible Saturday is the Sabbath. So why do we keep Sunday as a holy day? Read Exodus 20:8-11....

If God wrote all the Ten Commandments withHis own finger, on tables of stone, how dare we change it....

Could it be that the Roman Catholic Church changed it during the "Dark Ages" when it reined supreme?

Something to think about, don't you agree....

The correct verses of scripture to reference regarding this question is Exodus 20:3-6 quotes, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."

I Corinthians 12 is referring to the Gifts of the Spirit. This whole chapter in 1 Corinthians 12 has nothing to do with addressing graven images of Jesus Christ.

Hello Rita,

The answer to your question is no we are commanded in Exodus 20 verses 3-6 to not make any graven images.

Exodus 20:3-6 quotes, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."

We are commanded by Yahweh not to make any likeness of things that are in heaven where Christ is seated at the right hand of the Father God. Jesus is in heaven above, and no person should be creating any images of Jesus Christ, because we are commanded in His Holy Word not to. No one after His death, burial, and resurrection really knows what Jesus looks like anyway, so all of the pictures people have made of Him will never do Him justice. Also, when Jesus Christ Himself came on earth in human form, He never once commanded the Jews to make any images of Him. Jesus Christ will never contradict Himself by what He says, does, or thinks, never!

Matthew 5:17, "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Jesus Christ came to fulfill the 10 commandments and other laws in the Old Testament. So the Thou shalt not's still are in place forever.

Luke 16:17, "And it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one tittle of the law to fail."

Hi Raymond, I'm not sure who you're referring to by 'we', but I can assure you I'm not worshipping anyone other than God Exodus 20:3. Jesus is the only way to the Father as it says in John 14:6. Anyone who says otherwise is already described in the Bible, like in Matthew 7:15, Matthew 24:24. God bless.

Joyce king,

In Matthew Chapter 16, Jesus asked the same question that you are asking. Jesus asked His disciples who do people say I am. The disciples gave several answers to this question. This was the public opinion about who Jesus was. People had different opinions about who He was. And then after the disciples gave the public opinion, Jesus asked them, but who do you say I am. You see, now it's personal.

Peter gave the most perfect response as to who Jesus is. Peter said "Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God." Please keep in mind that Peter was Jewish. And for a Jew to say that someone was the Son of the living God, that is the same as calling that person God Himself.

Every one of us will have to give our own personal response to the question of who we believe Jesus is!

Who did people believe Jesus Was

"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful looking for of judgement and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? For we know him that hath said, Vengenance belongeth to me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God" Hebrews 10:26-31

"We then, as workers together with him, beseech you also that ye receive the grace of God in vain" 2 Corinthians 6:1

"I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth" Genesis 6:7

"But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord" Genesis 6:8

"Thou shall not Kill" Exodus 20:13

"Thou shall not commit adultery" Genesis 20:14

"An Ammonite or a Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the Lord for ever" Deuteronomy 23:3

"and Ruth the Moabitess.." Ruth 1:22

"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy" Romans 9:18

"..ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ" Jude 1:4

"Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?" Romans 6:1-2

"Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey: whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?" Romans 6:16

"the soul that sinneth , it shall die" Ezekiel 18:14

Hi Lacey,

We are to restore one another, and

We keep ministering to the lost, we are to be the light to tge world and you let your light shine with your walk, the word and much prayer.

Here is a few scriptures may help ,

Isaiah 55:11. So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it.

""WE trust and believe in the power of God's word ""

James 5:19-20. Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;

Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.

The bible tells us not to condemn, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY NOT TO JUDGE,

How do you try to help someone if you can't speak against what they're doing wrong?

Consider Galatians 6:1 When ministering.

Galatians 6:1. Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted.

Galatians 6:8-9. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.

And let us not be weary in well doing: for in due season we shall reap, if we faint not.

2 Timothy 4:2. Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.

Your walk going forward is important, be sure there is nothing present n your life they can use against you,

Don't let no one preach to you God is Love and sin don't matter!!

God's word is important, prayer is important, Be consistent in all 3,

your blameless walk,

The word of God

And prayer.

God bless you.

Hello Lacey,

I feel to reply to your statement as one of your parents has a problem like one of my parents. Doing drugs for longer than I have been alive. Still doing them and is not at all young anymore. It is quite sad in how many times I have tried to ask, or even show by me becoming sober, to quit drugs. As I've brought it up so many times, as now it only generates strife and bad energy saying anything, which just recently I did, it is out of my hands. I just have to suffer and pray.

No matter the wrong our parents may do. Be a loving child. I know it can be hard sometimes. It is better to suffer. Just as we all shall one day have to give an account for what we did in our lives. God honors those who suffer more than those who rebel and become prideful/selfish.

Sorry I don't have any other information on what to do. As others may be able to help more than me.

Stay strong in the Lord. God Bless.

Lacey i am so sorry for you ,i dont know how old you are , the first thing you must do is protect yourself ,by that i mean you have to learn to be strong for your own sake ,lean on God and on Jesus and they will show you the way ,you have to find a way to love your parents without judging them ,they are old enough and wise enough to know what they are doing and to know there will be consequences for them, try to be the best daughter you can and maybe they will eventually follow your good example ,find yourself some good Christian friends and stick with them as much as possible ,ive been through something very similar ,God loves you very much Lacey and if you stick with Him He will surely stick with you and support you every day ,try not to let you parents behaviour upset you too much ,you have your own salvation to work out so you are going to need to focus and be strong and try to be happy ,get some good Christian girlfriends ,come and talk to us anytime .

Often times in ministry lessons i hear about parents who need help with their rebellious children. However, i almost never hear about what to do when the situation is reversed. But that is exactly the case in my life. I am the most responsible person in my family, while my parents are rebellious. One of them has done drugs for as long as i can remember. And the other one is absorbed in adultery. What should i do to help my rebellious parents?

Bil,

The key is found in Matthew 15:19. Jesus said it is out of the heart that murders come from. He's telling the Jews that it is nice that you can control yourself in society and not kill people, but you are still angry and God sees it as murder.

Matthew 5:21-26 gives us the correct understanding of murder. Verse 21 is a Key Verse brought over from Exodus 20:13.

Jesus said, "You have heard," and then He says in Verse 22 "but I say to you." Now that's trouble because He says "You have heard." And so He is making reference to murder and about killing.

He says "You have heard that it was said by them of old times, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment: But I say unto you."

It sounds like He is canceling it out, but He's saying that this is what you've been told, but I say unto you. And then He presents three stages of anger. He says anybody that is angry with his brother, and in this case "brother" has to do with a Jew, somebody who is a fellow covenant member.

And then it says, without a cause," is in danger of the judgment, literally the judge!

Secondly, anybody that says Raca is in danger the council. In Greek, RAKA means good for nothing. It's an insult! So first you have inward anger. And then you begin to express it, and it becomes an insult, "you good for nothing!"

And then you say "thou fool," and if you say thou fool, that is slander. That's the Greek word MOREH where we get our word moron from in English.

So you go from inner anger, to insult, and then it comes to slander when you say you fool or you moron. You are in danger of hell fire.

When you say Raca, you are in danger of the council, the supreme court of the Jews, the Sanhedrin. If you say "thou fool" or "you moron," you are in danger of hell fire.

You see, the Jews never heard that before. They can say, "I never killed anybody." Have you ever been angry? If you have been angry, you have killed him already. Now, what are you going to do?

People use bad words for many reasons. Their friends curse, movies and TV shows are littered with foul language, and they think it's cool to do it themselves. Their parents do it, and they think it's ok. Even some Christians have potty mouthes which cause others to think, "Well if she/he curses, it's okay for me to do it too." But using bad words is most def a sin.

Exodus 20:7; Deuteronomy 5:11 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

Ephesians 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.

You love me right? lol I love this website and i think the wbesite loves me too

I think this website is pretty good. Most websites only have other types of verses not KJV which i read and KJV is all that i will read till i die lol.

If you research the origin of the cross it goes back to the Babylonians and didn't enter into Christian religion until the 4th century. some bible writers used the Greek word Xy'lon which means "timber" stick, club, or tree. see also acts 10:39, acts 13:29, Galations 3:13 and 1 peter 2:24. It was under the pagan ruler Constantine that promoted the cross as a symbol of Christianity. see also Exodus 20:4,5

Please pray for my mom Lorraine's salvation and pray for her healing. She lost her hearing, has memory loss, bad posture, body pain, and blood pressure issues. Pray for excellent health. Pray for a long life for Lorraine, in Jesus' name. Pray for the removal of debt regarding Lorraine, in Jesus' name. Pray Lorraine's possessions last a hundred times longer and become newer each day. Also, please pray for salvation and excellent health and long life for my uncle Seve and aunt Jackie.

Exodus 20:8: "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy."