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No, they did not see God, nor can any man see Him & continue to remain alive - such is the Majesty & Holiness of the Almighty ( Exodus 33:20), that sinners such as us would instantly dissolve at such a revelation . Even Moses, who begged to see God (to see His Glory) was not permitted, but God made a concession to him by walking by Moses, covering his eyes & only allowing His "back parts" to be seen ( Exodus 33:12-23).

So in Exodus 24:10, the four plus 70 of the elders of Israel, were only permitted to see God in a very limited way (we're not told this time what was seen except for the sapphire stone beneath Him & the appearance of the heavenlies around Him. They saw no body or shape, but what God chose to reveal to them. Even the Apostle Paul in his transportation into Heaven, heard such wonderful words that could not be spoken about to anyone ( 2 Corinthians 12:1-4) - and I sometimes wonder what Paul also saw there. Whatever he heard & saw, he revealed to us with the heavenly wisdom displayed in his letters to the Churches.

Hello Groman,

That is a very good question. As we also have Exodus 33:20 stating no one can see the face of God and live. As I have heard a couple of Testimonies, from people, that stated to have experiences with God the Father and could not see His face.

Back to your question. The Greek word "horao", translated "to see", has a word origin stating this. "Properly to stare at, that is (by implication), to discern clearly (physically or mentally). The uses, of the same word, in the KJV Bible are: behold, perceive, see, take heed. As see and perceive, also behold, are usually for physically seeing something. To "take heed" may have a translation of: to keep to, obey, regard or mind something. And others. So really using the word "see", as in John 1:18, as you've pointed out, doesn't look like the word they should have used. Like you stated with having people observing, seeing, God in Exodus 24:10-11. As maybe a better word, in John 1:18, would have been something along the line of obeyed or regarded. As nobody has ever lived a sinless life except Jesus Christ. Heeding all glory to the Father.

As I am in no way a professional scribe or pastor. This was just what I came up with to give you some sort of an answer to your question. Someone else may have a better more in depth explanation. God Bless.

You are correct, death is the devil's way. The Canaanites dedicated themselves to the devil resulting in their own miserable destruction. God gave them more than 400 years to repent ( Genesis 15:16). Then the LORD, to whom the promised land belongs, judged righteously and cleaned them out.

EXODUS 30, 27, killing people instead of allowing them to repent for sin for what they have done. I thought God was supposed to be someone of peace and loving, not death. Death is the Devils way!

Alexander, I'm unsure what aspect(s) of Psalm 99:6-9 you are wanting discussion on, but will write on a couple of verses.

Verse 7: God spoke to the children of Israel while on their journey out of Egypt into the land of Canaan in many ways & specifically the verse mentions "in the cloudy pillar". This 'cloudy pillar' of course was the means that God used to guide Israel on their journey in the daytime (the pillar of fire at night). But when Israel stopped to camp, the pillar remained at the Tabernacle door ( Exodus 33:10). This then is the reference made in the Psalm that "God spake to them in the cloudy pillar" as God communicated His Word to Moses & Aaron via the cloudy pillar that stood there.

Verse 8: The word, "Them" refers is to the children of Israel, not to Moses & Aaron (though Aaron & Miriam were also guilty, with Miriam turning leprous). The Psalmist says that God was a God who forgave them (their sins), but also a God Who took vengeance on their inventions. The Hebrew word for 'inventions' speaks of the 'deeds' of Israel during their march, particularly their evil deeds & shameful actions. We know how they wanted a molten calf to represent God ( Ex 32:4), their complaints about food & water, no meat when God gave them manna, against Moses, etc. And God was displeased with them for their complaining & obstinacy (read Psalm 78 to get a fuller picture of these events).

Richard, as long as we are on the side of life; there is still time to be reconciled, by the enduring Love of God.

2 Corinthians 5: 16-21

All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is: in Christ God was reconciling the world to himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, God making his appeal through us. We implore you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

Stop here and read Exodus 33:11-23. And Luke 15:11-32. Hebrews 6:18 and 12:1-2

Lastly, 1 John 1:9

Satan has demons that keep an eye on us: what we do, say, read. They're invisible "spies". Ephesians 6. Satan uses the info collected, to ACCUSE you at the throne of God. You feel those accusations. However the Holy Spirit is still with you, convicting you about your sins. He desires to reconcile these things and stop the torment in your mind.

1 John 2:1 names Jesus as your ADVOCATE: your attorney. And He's sitting right beside His Father in heaven, NOW. Your name is still written in the Book of Life.

It's time now for you to pray. Confess your heart. Receive the cleansing power that is in the shed blood of Jesus. 1 John 1:2. Jesus already paid for it. It will be well with your soul, afterwards.

We all need to run to, 1 John 1:2 as soon as sin happens. We are soul and spirit encased in flesh. All that Bible reading makes the spirit man get bigger than the sinful flesh and the gullible soul. Hebrews 12:2, said, to RUN THE RACE. Win!

I love you brother and never feel that you are alone in this. You're blessed.

Get to know God the Holy Spirit, who is The Spirit of Christ. Book of John, ch 16

M.

God is Spirit. There are MANY scriptures on God being seen. If you read it slowly, you will see the description is in imagery.

Go get some pen & paper and write down these scriptures; then you can read them and picture God in your heart when you pray.

John 1:18, John 6:46, John 5:37

1 John 4:12, 1 John 3:6, 1 John 4:20

1 Timothy 1:17, 1 Timothy 6:16

Luke 1:31-32, Matthew 22, Romans 1:20

Philippians 2, Hebrews 1:1-13,

Colossians 1:15

Deuteronomy 4:12, 15. Exodus 3:6

Exodus 33:20-23

Isaiah 38:11, Isaiah 64:4

Job 9:11, Job 35:14, Job 23:8

This is a ps from me: if you have "pictures of God" (some artist imagined) in your home? You need to get rid of them,

According to Exodus 20. That's not a photograph of God and is considered to be a graven image. Crosses on the wall is ok, but not images.

I have 1 still life painting of a bowl of fruit and a pitcher of water. It makes me think of eating a meal with Jesus.

Mishael

Genesis 1: 28 Our Lords vision and plan for his children is to Multiply and Increase

1. Enlarge your Tent : Tent represents Prayer, our prayer time should be extended- Exodus 33:9

2. Stretch our your curtains : Curtain represent the Holiness - Exodus 26:33

3. Do not hold back : Represent not to be a hindrance to god's work - Luke 9:49-50

4. Lengthen you cords : Represents Love of God Hosea 11:4

5. Strengthen your Stakes : Represents the Word of God Matthew 7:24-25

Ephesians 5:10 and find our what pleases the God.

This what Lord wanted from us and it pleased to him

Amen.

You did not see God.

That was Satan...

Exodus 33:20

Hi Sadie,

I'm proud of you for sharing your struggle. I am reminded of a verse that really impressed me recently. Exodus 33:14 "And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest." Isn't that such a comforting promise? I pray you can experience that! God bless.

Please pray that the LORD GOD remove all stumblingblocks placed multiple times daily into my path by Satan's children to stop me from doing ANYTHING and EVERYTHING and from erasing and making vain whatsoever they've ALLOWED me to get done. I NEED GOD's Voice, HIS real-time communication with me in my life, as our father, David the king (we are Christ's lineage, and Jesus came through David's line ( Matthew 1:1-17; Genesis 22:15-18, and Genesis 1:1-18 for full context)) had with the ephod ( I Samuel 23:9-12; I Samuel 30:7-8), as our brother, Moses OFT did ( Exodus 33:11-17 and Exodus 33:11-23 for proper context), and as our father, Abraham did ( Genesis 18). These men obeyed God's law, so pray

Hi, good question. If you read in Exodus 33:20 Moses asks to see God, but he explains that he can't see his face and live. So, instead Moses would see his glory or goodness pass by. God has revealed some part of his glory to select people. Genesis 32:24-32 Jacob wrestled with God, but didn't initially know it. God took the form of a man and probably didn't reveal all of himself.

Mary Brown: I believe the scripture you are referencing is found in Exodus 33:17 - 23

This I like Joshua 1:9. He will be our strength.

There is much Power in Love!! When you choose to say yes to Love-- you are saying yes to everything God is, because God is Love! The more you choose to walk in Love, the deeper and stronger your roots will grow. Remember-- Love is the Greatest Feeling He can build in you. He brings Security in you and empowers you to Live the Life of Blessings He has in store for you!! AMEN...PRAISE GOD ALWAYS!

We look upon that which is not seen. Jesus says that he will manifest himself to us, and to see him is to see his Father.

Yes, but not in this life, but in the life to come in heaven.

His Word Is True !!! THANK YOU FATHER FOR YOUR SON !!! KING JESUS !!!

Thank you God for your beautiful shield of protection, you are AWESOME.

Great question. Since God is invisible Colossians 1:15 whatever people saw was a physical representation of Him or just his glory Exodus 33:19, but perhaps lacking in his true essence, because to truly see Him, people would die: Exodus 33:20.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

So many people say they want to see God's glory but don't know they'll die if they do. You are in the Clift of The Rock n it's covered by God's hands because it is not time for you to know and receive that blessing yet. Just be happy that you are being protected, guarded and when it is God's will, he will remove his hand and you'll be able to see what God has left BEHIND for you to enjoy n share.

In verse 11, ...but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle. We have a High Priest interceding for us... In Zechariah, Joshua the high priest was clothed in filthy rags then clean clothes were given to him and Zechariah referred to the BRANCH. Also later when Joshua was given a crown... I believe these 3 instances foreshadow the Name above every Name!!!

Verse 13~Moses prayed to know Jehovah God's ways. He had witnessed many miracles and had the chance to know some of God's ways but he wanted to keep learning.

And it shall come to pass that my Glory passeth by I will put thee in the Clift of the Rock and I will cover thee by my hand while my Glory will pass by. Thank you Jesus you are my Rock and my Salvation I will praise you Lord forever for you are worthy Hosanna in the Highest I love you Jesus forever my Jehovah my Peace Shalom amen

Well... 1 GOD LOVES his children-'Not a little, Nor A lot- God 'IS' "Love", therefore... God promises us Saftey- 'Not TIME' eg-Don't Lay awake or Lack of sleep waiting, Your Turn will come when God Decides, Not the Clock- Keep learning Gods Words, God will come- Very Very Important during your wait, is to keep your Body Mind Healthy

Wonderful inspirations that are keeping our spirits a live in God.may God bless you

"And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite...for I will not go up in the midst of thee; for thou art a stiff-necked people: lest I consume thee in the way." The LORD will fulfill His promises to His people for the sake of our ancestors who were true and faithful; but He will nevertheless hide Himself from those who continually provoke Him with sins and know Him not.

I love mostly where Moses said if God's presence doesn't go with him, he would not go.... As Christians, we should be constantly in search of the presence of God. We should strive to remain in His presence, that is when we ca be far away from sins and immorality. Also, once we commit sin, we should also know that His presence doesn't behold iniquity! I pray that we abide in Him till eternity

I most enjoy where Moses ask God to shew his glory unto him, we all should want the glory of the lord.It is health to my navel and marrow to my bones, I want the glory of the lord to be seen in mylife, in my walking, in my talking , in my sleeping and in my waking. Bless God for his marvelous Glory.