Discuss Ezekiel 39

Just a little on when Jesus returns.

Scripture tells us Jesus returns only one time, Zachariah 14:4 Matthew 24:30 Acts 1:11 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Hebrews 9:28 Rev. 1:7 Rev. 6:15-16. When Jesus returns those who are chosen and faithful are resurrected to reign on earth with Jesus, Rev. 17:14 Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:26-27 2 Timothy 2:12 Rev. 5:10 Rev. 11:15.

This reign on earth begins after the tribulation and the armies of Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the ten kings/countries of the beast who destroy mystery Babylon come to battle Jesus in the battle of Armageddon, Zachariah 14:1-3 Ezekiel 39:17-22 Rev. 19:17-19 Rev. 16:13-16. In Rev. 20 we see Satan bound and sealed in the bottomless pit for 1000 years. Jesus then sets up the Kingdom on earth and we see the judgment of those in the first resurrection who will be reigning with Jesus on earth for 1000 years Rev. 20:4-6.

The 1000-year Kingdom will be on the earth, but it will be very different from the world today without the temptation of Satan, Isaiah 65:25 Zechariah 14:16 It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod so that all the promises of God be fulfilled, all the boundaries of land God promised Abraham have never been, Genesis 15:18-20 Numbers 34:1-12 but they will in the future.

We know from Rev. 20:7-10, that there will be nations after the 1000 years that Satan will go out to deceive and bring them together to battle. After this battle, a fire burns up the earth and Satan is cast into the lake of fire, "the earth and the heaven fled away" The final Judgment of the white throne is not just for the lost, and all in this judgment who is not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire, Rev. 20:11-15, Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:32-46 John 5:28-29.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Jeff Mooneyhan,

I will give you my understanding, If we look at the end of Rev. 12 after Satan is cast down to earth, in the original text Satan is standing on the sand of the sea when the Beast in Rev. 13 arises, in Rev. 11:7 and Rev. 17:8 this is the bottomless pit. He is given only 42 months, Rev. 13:4-8, that is 1260 days or 3 1/2 years, this is all the time this beast has been given. If we look at Rev. 19:11-16 we see the second coming of Jesus, the first resurrection and the vials of wrath start Rev.16.

This is before the battle and In Rev. 19:17-19 an angel cries out for all the fowls to gather themselves unto the supper of the great God, to eat the flesh of the men who will be destroyed at Armageddon, this matches with Ezekiel 39:17-21. The beast and false prophet call the ten kingdoms to gather after the 6th vial is poured out Rev. 16:13-16 then the last vial is poured out in the air Rev. 16:17-21.

Also, we see the beast and the false prophet, and the 10 kingdoms or countries are who will make war with the Lamb, Rev. 17:12-14.

In Ezekiel 39:9-15 this is them cleaning up after this battle, and the beginning of the 1000-year reign of Jesus and setting up the kingdom.

Ezekiel 38:22 may be Rev. 16:21 and Ezekiel 39:6 may be Rev. 20:9.

This is a short view of my understanding may it help, and others may give a different understanding, prophecy is hard, and some things are yet to be revealed, we just need to watch and be ready and stand firm in our faith.

God bless,

RLW

God's plan for the nations (conclusion)

As for the eternal new heaven and earth it seems verses indicate there still will be nations although some seem to merge with promises from the Millennium. However; Revelation 21:24 says: And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. So it is clear that there will be nations still in some geographic sense; although no more sea and the heavenly Jerusalem will clearly be the dominant vista wherever you roam on this new planet.

Jesus stated from the O.T. that the Temple was supposed to be a place of prayer for all nations ( Mark 11:17). This surely will be fulfilled in the future!

There are nations that are said not to know God. Isaiah 55:5 shows that they will wake up at the end of the Tribulation as well as return captives (see Isaiah 49:22-25). They also shall bow down as kings and queens to worship God ( Isaiah 49:23) and take care of children. These are wonderful promises to show even from the wicked Tribulation some even in royalty will be saved! We see an interesting prophecy in Ezekiel 39:2 that a sixth part of the Gog army will remain; I would deem it likely many of these people will repent; although a remnant it will probably be a fairly substantial number of those remaining at the end of the Tribulation (also we don't see those in that invasion who appear to have the mark or fight God). This and other verses show various campaigns which lead up to Armageddon; and perhaps linger on until Christ and His returning saints establish control to rule and reign.

It seems pretty apparent that with all nations against Israel ( Zech. 12:3) in the end so that mainly they will be reprobate with the dead being as dung on the earth ( Jeremiah 25:33). This is a sobering thought; thankfully in Israel 1/3 make it through the fire but 2/3 die ( Zech. 13:9). Some say this is harsh but compared to the stats from the whole world it isn't

Psalm 97

Verse 1 indicates the "multitude of isles" being glad when the Lord reigns. This term has been said to refer to the Gentile nations or the outermost parts of the world. Ezekiel 39:6 and Isaiah 41:5 seem to refer to these parts of the world during the Tribulation with Isaiah 24:15 giving a prophetic indication that even in the fires God will be glorified.

Verse 2 on clouds and darkness are similar to Solomon's description of God in 1 Kings 8:12 similar to other passages.

Verse 3 through 5 show the affects on the earth of His coming. We are reminded of 2 Thessalonians 2:8 as well as the battle of Armageddon.

Verse 4 reminds us of Matthew 24:27 when the Son of Man comes as to His appearing.

Verse 5 shows us similar references to Psalm 68:2 among other places.

Verse 6 shows as things are now; God's presence evident to all as we see indicated in Romans 1 and Psalm 19. Man will see His glory when He comes to rule in the Millennium.

Verse 7 shows that finally idol worship will end when Christ comes back. People will eventually cast forth their idols of gold and silver during the Tribulation judgments as Isaiah 2:20. Perhaps some of that sadly will occur because Satan himself will demand worship and that will eliminate worship of any false gods but also the true God with the mark of the beast sealing people's fate.

Verse 8 shows how Judah and the remaining nation of Israel will rejoice; which will happen when He is returning as Zechariah 12:10 indicates. Verse 9 shows the majesty of God unparalleled.

Verse 10 shows how saints are delivered; either from or through disaster.

Verse 11 reminds us of His light and no longer a need for the sun and moon from Revelation 21:23 but also found in Isaiah 60:19.

Finally the last verse talks about rejoicing of the righteous and thanks at remembrance of His holiness. Good sentiment for all times or dispensations and the age to come.

Jennifer:

The word of God is like a great treasure hunt, one scripture is the key to another scripture, and so on. The scriptures put together are the KEYS TO THE KINGDOM.

Isaiah 28:10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, HERE A LITTLE, and THERE A LITTLE:

BUT NOTICE; since the spirit of Christ wrote the words, the spirit of Christ must teach your what the words mean.

Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to his people.

Most of God's words are HIDDEN in parables and dark sayings.

Psalms 78:2 I (the spirit of Christ) will open my mouth in a parable: I will utter dark sayings of old:

Revelation 19:10 ...for the testimony (words) of Jesus IS THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.

For your questions, has words been twisted by man's carnal mind, YES.

Psalms 56:5 Every day they wrest (twist) my words ........

Are God's words being fulfilled? YES

Psalms 90:9 ...we spend our years as a tale that is told.

Hebrews 4:3 ... the works (WORDS) WERE FINISHED from the foundation of the world.

Isaiah 55:11 So shall my words be that goeth forth out of my mouth, they shall not return unto me void, but it MY WORD shall accomplish that which I PLEASE, and IT (the WORD) shall prosper in the thing where unto I sent IT (the WORD)

The four winds of prophecy; a symbol, of the spirit of Christ.

John 3:8 the wind bloweth where it listeth (where God CAUSES it to blow), and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whether it goeth (it's the WORK of God): so is every one that is BORN OF THE SPIRIT.

Daniel 7:2 ....the four winds of heaven strove upon the great SEA (water)( Revelation 17:15) ....

Do I believe in miracles and wonders? YES, what greater miracle than creation:

Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy spirit, THEY ARE CREATED, ( 2 Corinthians 5:17) thou renewest the face of the earth.

The mark of the beast requires a post of its own, I will send a second post.

God Bless YOU!

Praise the Lord, how are you? According to the time that we are living in now, Do you believe the Word of God has been twisted up in Divination. Do you feel like it is being fulfilled? Do you think about the Four Winds of Prophecy( North, South, East and West). Do you believe in Miracles and Wonders? What do you think about " Mark of the Beast". Be bless in Jesus name!!!

As a final sidenote; Mescesh and Tubal have been ascribed as Moscow and another Russian city with the name of the second reference. It depends who you talk to in that regard; the point I would state is that DESCENDANTS with those names generally went to certain regions as well as specific cities. It seems that Russia leads the invasion along with a league of others; and that specifically indicates their alliance now with Turkey as well as Iran. Syria certainly is involved as well at least with present alliances; and if we look at recent history the Orthodox church is a common denominator as well which ties these nations together. It seems Isaiah 17 could happen in the Psalm 83 event and/or previous to the Ezekiel 38 event and could be caused by an Israeli strike. Time will tell.

Laura,

Gog is the word that the Jews use for all people who are the enemies of Israel.

All people who are the enemies of Israel are called Gog.

This is all taken from imagery in Ezekiel Chapters 38 and 39. In that picture, the kings of the east will come through the dried up Euphrates River and attack God's people.

Magog is the god, or idol of Gog.

During our study (Sunday school) we've come to the conclusion that because of location it's Russia.

Who is Gog? Russia or Turkey?

Maybe you mean verse 9? It says bows, arrows, spears, etc. Seems more primitive than nukes to me.

Ezekiel 39:25- 7 years of weapons burning- could this be Nuclear weapons?

This doesn't make sense seeing how Ezekiel 38 is the invasion and the purpose of the invasion the battle of Gog and Magog which is the war that still wages on between the two brothers Jacob and Esau and is settled by God just before the millennium begins yet after The Gathering Ezekiel 39:25

Its the End of Days according to Ezekiel 38:16 where it states it will be the latter Days which means end of days, the millennium is for The Restoration between the them since the two sticks of Judah and Israel were already rejoined back in chapter 37.

The use of Gog and Magog in Revelation 20:8 is apparently an inclusive term for all the Gentile nations; East (Gog) and West (Magog) all over the world and is being referenced here as to how many there is that will still go against the Lord during the millennium; the number of whom is as the sand of the sea: And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea. (To gather them together to do battle against the Lord God)

That is enlightening so see that you have thought out this issue. It is certainly plausible that there are TWO seven year periods; and that the Antichrist may appear to be Christ to the world solving their problems after that event with the time period stated to clean up. The problem with this is that there are too many parallels between Armageddon and this event (hail; fire and the realization that the God of the Bible is truly Lord to Israel and the world). There are notable differences; mainly the lack of mention of the Antichrist with these warring nations. The best response is that this is two different campaigns going on; the setup is the "rumors from the North and East" mentioned in Daniel 11:44. Thus; the final battle starts with a conflict between these nations and the armies fighting with Antichrist that move across the Euphrates and consolidate in Mediggo where so many past conflicts have raged; and I believe Napolean himself predicted would indeed be the place of the ideal geography for a major war in the future. As in the past; however after the encroachment from the north in Ezekiel 48; those who consolidate in Armageddon will attempt to fight Jerusalem where "half the city will be taken" according to Zechariah. THEN they will start fighting each other and ultimately as they see Christ returning each other. The final phase therefore will be all those who the 3 angels deceive to fight Christ Himself who have taken the mark. Antichrist may rule the whole world; but surely some will attempt to resist; and the fact that one sixth survive from the Northern army ( Ezekiel 39:2) shows that they indeed DIDN'T take the mark of the Beast; or they would have also fought Christ at Armageddon. Some will in fact return the prisoners as other verses indicate; this makes the Battle not the same as AFTER the 1000 years with Gog and Magog. I could be wrong-it is clear that Israel is NOT living securely with unwalled villages yet. It may after Daniel 9:27.

Hey SolaScrip,

Is there scripture outside Revelation that confirms an exact 1000 years? The answer is no. Are there false teachers out there? The answer is yes, there are many, 1 John 4:1. Are there scriptures that say the Son of God will reign on earth? The answer is yes. Psalm 2:6-9 Psalm 22:27-31 Isaiah 2:1-4 Isaiah 9:6-7 Isaiah 24:21-23 Jeremiah 23:5 Ezekiel 20:33-44 Ezekiel 39:21-29 Zechariah 2:10-13 Zechariah 8:2-3 Zechariah 14:1-9 Matthew 19:28 Revelation 11:15 Revelation 20:4 and more.

Is there any scripture that says people will go to or reign in heaven? The answer is no. Are there scriptures that say the elect will reign with Jesus on earth? The answer is yes. Daniel 7:27 2 Timothy 2:11-13 Revelation 5:10. Are there scriptures that describe how things change after Jesus returns? The answer is yes. Zechariah 8:4 Isaiah 11 Isaiah 60:15 Isaiah 65:18-25. These people will be alive on the second coming of Jesus, they will have the opportunity to live longer if they choose to obey God.

Are there things that have not been revealed to us? The answer is, yes? Jesus will return and set up the kingdom here on earth and He will put all enemies under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:25. Will death still be during the time Jesus is ruling? The answer is yes. The purpose is to fulfill the rest of the scriptures with Jesus, Israel, the Gentiles, and creation that has not yet been fulfilled.

The only scripture that gives us 1000 years is Revelation, but many scriptures tell us the kingdom will be set up on earth. We have these, Numbers 14:21 Psalms 115:16 Micah 4:1-3 Matthew 5:5 Matthew 6:10. Not to debate, with the time it will take I cannot say the 1000 years are false.

God bless,

RLW

CE. You stated, "God uses anti-christ to remove His backsliding people (modern day Israel)" & you referred to Ezekiel 38:1-17. Then Ezekiel 38:18-23 shows what God does to 'magnify & sanctify Himself before many nations' (v23), & that is, to overwhelm Gog (the nations from the North & elsewhere who come against God's people). Israel are indeed a "backsliding people", but God is about to show the world that Israel is still to be preserved & that one day (maybe after they see God's dealing with them) they will finally return to Him & ultimately to the Messiah ( Ezekiel 39:21-29; Zechariah 12:9-11).

Ezekiel chapters 38 & 39 is about the protection & restoration of Israel. And this God does is such manner (i.e. bringing down the countries against Israel), so that both Israel & her enemies will know that it is the Lord Who has done this ( Ezekiel 38:16; Ezekiel 39:28). We are not told when all this will happen - no doubt when Anti-Christ is in power & both he & those with him (the enemy nations) come against Israel. But God will have the final say in their destruction in the Valley of Megiddo & the preservation of Israel. God can indeed use anything or anyone He chooses to bring about His purposes. And we know that all His Works are done in righteousness & true justice. No nation in that day can argue to the contrary.

I look at the 7 years of burning weapons, and it seems to fit best with the 7 years of the tribulation. So I wonder if this war happens right before the tribulation. John might have been describing modern weapons in the vocabulary of his day. Certainly no ancient weapons would burn for 7 years to provide fuel for the nation. Israel's stunning victory could lead to a treaty which allows the Jews to build their temple, from which the two witnesses preach and which is defiled at the midpoint.

Jode & everyone I'm sorry to intrude in your discussion earlier, with world view & opinion hopefully it wasn't unwanted. To add to the Biblical discussion I pretty much agree with most answers given. I also do not believe it to be the 'Mark' however through wisdom of this time & everything we are witnessing & experiencing we are all much more wise to see how in the future 'the beast' may try to play out that 'Mark'.

Matthew 24:24, Matthew 24:1-51, Daniel 9:21-27

I also do not believe Matthew 24:15 has yet happened, but we're told to be watchful

Luke 12:1-59, Daniel 11:24-45, note Daniel 11:35, Daniel 12:1-13, Ezekiel 39:11-29,

* 2 Thessalonians 2:1-17 the 'great falling away' hasn't happened yet either

Hopefully these are helpful

Shellon Hooten,

Revelation is hard, for one, it is not in chronological order, and not all has been revealed to us. Pray and keep in mind there are answers we may never be given. At this time there have been 3.5 years of tribulation by Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the great whore Babylon, and Babylon was just destroyed by the ten kings/countries of the beast. ( Revelation 17, 18).

These same ten kings/kingdoms/countries will make war with Jesus, ( Revelation 17:14). They were rejoicing in heaven and "his wife hath made herself ready" and "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb" ( Revelation 19:1-10).

In ( Revelation 19:11-21) we see Jesus coming with his armies, ( Matthew 25:31) that were in heaven, and the call to the fowls to gather to the supper of the great God. ( Ezekiel 39: 17-20) There are more scriptures on the coming of Jesus, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17), and more. The beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the remnant of the armies are destroyed by the sword proceeding out of the mouth of Jesus. The power of His word wiped them out.

Then in Revelation 20, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit, to be there for one thousand years, and Jesus sets up His Kingdom and the camp of the saints. So scripture tells us when Jesus returns with all His holy angels/armies, He sends angels to gather His elect. Who are in this first resurrection? The description of them is in ( Revelation 20:4). Are they all that will be saved? Are they the most loyal elect that is given this honor? The key is the white throne judgment, is it only for the lost as taught? Why is the book of life opened ( Revelation 20:12)? Should we not consider ( Matthew 25:31-46) ( John 5:28-29) ( Acts 24:15). Do we overlook ( Revelation 20:15)?

I know this does not answer your question, if it can be answered, but may it inspire study.

God bless,

RLW

Early in this chapter it refers to bows and arrows for weapons and further it says Israel will burn the weapons for 7 years. I am confused considering that today the weaponry is far from those weapons. Can you explain this for me?

Mishael,

Of the 12 tribes, only 3 are Jewish (Benjamin, Levi & Judah), together known as the 'house of Judah'. However, in this case, Judah's 3 sealed tribes have become Jew's for Jesus; Christians. The 144K in scripture are always described as the house of Israel ( Ezekiel 39:12).



No one counted of the 1st resurrection will be left behind; the rest remain asleep. Caught up to Jesus in the clouds happens at the seventh trumpet.

You almost have the order, and will know it better by knowing what happens in the last 3 seals/trumpets. Know events by trumpets. These last 3 trumpets happen close to one another, and why Jesus said this generation will not pass.... When you read about the fall of Babylon, know it's beginning the sixth trumpet (biggest % of prophesy). You would know that ( 2 Thessalonians 2) rests within antichrists sixth trumpet rule. When ( Revelation 16:16) comes to mind, you know the seventh trumpet is about to blow. When Jesus appears in the clouds, know the seventh trumpet is sounding.

We must have had a fifth trumpet to be staring down the sixth, so what was the fifth trumpet? The world drastically changed after 9/11?

Wesley.

You said the Millennium is a time of cleansing and you referenced

Ezekiel 39:12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land."

Here in Ezekiel is a clean up after Gog and Magog, It's 7 months, the Millennium will be 1000 years. It won't take neither for the Lord to cleanse the earth,

He created the heavens and Earth and all that was created in 6 days,

I believe the battle mentioned in Ezekiel and the battle in Revelation is two separate events because of location and the players involved.

Even so the Millennium wouldn't be a period of cleansing when the battle would be afterwards when Satan is released.

Joel said ALL NATIONS will be included in this battle.

I believe it will be a time of testing to show prideful man what's in his heart, where you see man is put in an ideal environment and still rebel in those conditions, it shows the heart of man, " INCURABLY WICKED "

note:

The church won't be here on earth during this period, we're already raptured up!!

Next you see the devil cast into the lake of fire, and then comes the judgment,

Revelation 20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: ( AND THEY WERE JUDGED EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO THEIR WORK'S.)

( BELIEVERS WONT BE JUDGED FOR OUR WORK'S, WE HAVE BEEN IMPUTED CHRIST RIGHTEOUSNESS!! ) WE came through the narrow gate.

I believe this is where you will see

Matthew 7:22-23. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

God bless

S. Spencer,

I see the millennium as a cleansing period ( Ezekiel 39:12) of the sealed, one hundred forty four thousand saints, to remove and replace the current earth and heavens with the new earth and heavens. One has to follow the other for the future to exist.

Anyone past resurrection can't sin and death has no bearing. This applies to both resurrections. After the thousand years, and the devil is let go, but he will have no place among men who received new hearts of the Spirit.

Earl,

A Biblical study on the 2 resurrections provides a generous amount of insights, rather than point blank omissions.

The first resurrection is only of the house of Israel; no where is Judah mentioned. It's the lost sheep whom Jesus first set out after, the house of Israel buries the bones of Gog for seven months. ( Ezekiel 39:12) The tribes of Levi, Benjamen, and Judah, 12,000 each have converted to the Lord Jesus Christ. They are the remnant of Israel.

Some like to imagine being part of the first resurrection, but the likelihood of that happening is slim to none. The only ones ever mentioned as "first fruits" are the one hundred forty four thousand, elect.

The second resurrection: ( Ezekiel 37:1-14) solidifies the order and nature of the resurrections. Here we see dry bones from the house of Israel and Judah stand up together as the whole house of Israel. The house of Judah was never part of the first resurrection, as those from the house of Israel were. This represent the second resurrection allegory of Israel.

The second resurrection begs the need for a new earth and new heavens for billions of people entering...souls.

You can disagree with anything I've said. If you have better insight, please share.

Sacha,

When Christ returns, the resurrected will spend a length of time repairing and healing the earth. I do not think "slavery" as we know it will be the mode of operation.

"And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD." Ezekiel 39:11-13 The house of Israel pulls all the weight.

When my dad, devout OT lover, was on his death bed, I asked him where is he going after he dies? He said "back into the universe."

Israel is not in their land. Our fathers have inherited lies. True Israel is still scattered. Wake up people! True Israel is awakening! Shalom!

December 20,2020

Does anyone have input?

I'm reflecting USA Current Events of the perceived fraudulence now unfolding from our 2020 US Presidential Election and reading Ezekiel.

No brother, Ezekiel 36 and 37 deal with the restoration of the people and land of Israel. In 1948 after world war 2 Israel came back into national status fulfilling Bible prophecy. Ezekiel 38 and 39 deal with the first major advent of the 7 year tribulation period Daniels 70th week chap. 9 Ezekiel 39:9,10 Israel will have enough fuel from that military machine that came against them to last 7 yrs

This chapter is regarding the end of the tribulation beginning of the millennium. Chapter 38 outlines the final event at the END of the Millennium. Read chapter 38 verse 11 no walls, bars or gates. This will not happen till Jesus rules with rod of iron. chapter 39 is Armageddon day of the lord and beginning of millennium. read them in that light and all the pieces will fit.