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Hi Tony. You may be referring to Exodus 31:12-17. This Law was given to Israel in line with Day 7 of the Days of Creation - the Day that God "rested (or, ceased) from all His work" ( Genesis 2:3). The Law, which included the keeping of the seventh day (the Sabbath), & circumcision, were the signs that made God's people a special, chosen people, unlike any other nation on Earth. As God ceased from His Work of creation, so He required His people (Israel) to set a specific day each week to also rest from their labours. And the fact that God sanctified the day (i.e. He set it apart as a special day), meant that Israel should engage themselves with other things other than going through the rigors of daily toil. So, it was a day of physical rest & also a day when their minds could re-focus on their Creator & learning more about Him.

Israel today still keep the Sabbath as required of them. But those of Judaism who have come out, finding new life & liberty in Jesus Christ & led of the Spirit are no longer under the Law ( Galatians 5:18), just as the Gentiles who are "without the Law" ( 1 Corinthians 9:21), are not required to be bound to it - to a Law that only showed man his sin & his incapability to fully obey it ( Romans 7:7 ff).

Both Jew & Gentile still need a rest day from hard toil - for the Jew, the seventh day was appointed. For the Christian, any day could be a day of physical rest. For the Jew, he went to the Temple or Synagogue on the Sabbath to worship God - for the Christian, he can worship God on any day he chooses. The early Church met on the first day of the week to worship ( Acts 20:7), fellowship & break bread together, remembering the Lord Who gave His Life for them & rose from the grave on the first day of the week. So, there is no commandment to break; the Sabbath for worship together does not apply to the Christian - some worship on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday - maybe even other days. But if Sabbath is forced upon Christians, then we have a problem.

Thank you David, for your good response.

I too, do not go around each day ready for a fight or worrying about my sins. The Scripture says that the Holy Spirit contends against the sinful flesh ( Galatians 5:17). The battle is the Spirits, not ours. But there are times when the Spirit reveals to use a sinful tendency or habitual action and it grieves us, as it did Paul, because we do not want any area of our lives to be controlled by sin. I do believe that believers do sin, but the Spirit will not allow us to be happy in sinning, and will prompt us to repent and ask for forgiveness. I pray and ask God to replace this sin with a godly action next time I am in a situation where I may be tempted. I know people who are believers who do participating in ongoing sin. For example, people who continue to lie, gossip, cuss, or have sex with their boyfriends or girlfriend. Some sinful patterns are hard to break when someone wants to, and some believers don't admit that wat they continue to do is sinful, and so, do not repent. I think this may be the case for more believers than not. We all have to grow in godliness in this life. The Spirit helps us.

Yes, we are "witnesses in what we say and what we do". Our witness should show the goodness of Jesus, the desirability of doing what is right, and the positive effects of living for Jesus and not for sin. Our good "works" follow our justification through faith in Jesus. We have been given a brand new nature by the indwelling Spirit that was not in us before conversion. That is why we are called to walk in the Spirit (who will never lead us to sin) and you (we) shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh (sinful nature) Galatians 5:16)

Paul speaks prior to this verse of the liberty we are called to: "but do not use liberty as an opportunity for the flesh (and excuse to sin), but in love serve one another. for all the law is fulfilled in one word (love), even in this: You shall love your neighbor as yourself."

Paul says in Galatians 3:13 that "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us" He did not redeem us from the law, because the law is good. Paul says that: the law was our tutor to bring us to Christ (showing us our need for salvation because we could not be justified by keeping the law, because, unequivocally, no one but Christ kept all of the law), But after faith as come, we are no longer under a tutor." (being guided to God by the law). Galatians 3:24

Paul taught those who are redeemed and justified by faith, are not to take our freedom in Christ to continue to sin without concern. We are to take our freedom in Christ to use the Power of the Holy spirit to live God's way, doing what is good and shows the love of Christ to others.

What you're dealing with is demonic. Unbelievers don't know they've been taken hostage.

Believers know they've been snared. The Holy Spirit is the only one who can break the ties that bind us. We pray and ask for HELP to break the bonds and be freed. We do that by depending upon what Jesus did on the Cross to set us free. He paid in blood. Satan nor demons have AUTHORITY to cross that blood and take a Christian captive. Whom the Son sets free, is free Indeed.

Faith in Christ stands up and takes that authority back! Ephesians 6. The Helmet of Salvation. Start pleading the blood of Jesus when THE TEMPTER shows up. The more scripture you know__the more ammo you have to shoot back at the evil. Read about Jesus 40 day fast after his baptism. "IT IS WRITTEN_____ " you fill in that blank with a verse, like He did. It absolutely works. We're weak often because we fill our minds with television, novels and video games.

FILL UP ON JESUS.

Spirit of Bondage

Manifestations - Fears, Addictions (Drugs, Alcohol, Cigarettes, Food, Etcetera...), Fear of Death, Captivity to Satan, Servant of Corruption, Compulsive Sin, Bondage to Sin

Scriptures: ( Romans 6:16; 7:23; 8:15; 2 Peter 2:19; Hebrews 2:14-15; Luke 8:23; John 8:34; Acts 8:23; Proverbs 5:2; 2 Timothy 2:26)

Roots... "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

"By their fruits you will know all men," Matthew 7:20. According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18 BIND: Spirit of Bondage

LOOSE: Liberty, Spirit of Adoption:

Spirit of God: Pure Spirit, Holiness, Commitment, Insatiable

Ever Increasing Hunger for the Holy Spirit.

You're going to feel silly, because demons are invisible. Eph.6

On YouTube, watch Charles Capps: Authority of the Believer. Take notes. When you get free, tell others how to be free.

Don't be anesthetized by television. Read more New Testament Bible.

** Luke 11:24-26 garnish means Bible and Faith

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Mark, this is what you're dealing with. I've gone through this myself. No more despairing. You have to stand up against IT. And it thinks it can take you down. Just as Ezekiel had to do in chapter 37, SPEAK OUT: in Jesus Name and by the power of his authority, I come against YOU, spirit of heaviness; I BIND your evil plans against me and in the name of Jesus of Nazareth I reject you and cast you into outer darkness to wander, forever. I forbid your return. I am a blood bought child of the Most High God! I am covered in Jesus Blood. Let me go!!!

it's personality

Spirit of Heaviness [a demon]

Manifestations - Excessive Mourning, Sorrow-Grief, Insomnia, Self- Pity, Rejection, Broken-Heart, Despair-Dejection-Hopelessness, Depression, Suicidal Thoughts, Inner Hurts that won't heal.

Study The Enemy of Tour Soul:

Heaviness Scriptures: ( Isaiah 61:3; Luke 4:18; Nehemiah 2:2; Proverbs 15:13; Psalms 69:20; Proverbs 12:18; 15:3,13; 18:14; Luke 4:18; 2 Corinthians 1:8-9; Isaiah 61:3; Mark 9; Luke 4:18; Proverbs 18:14; 26:22)

ITS ROOTS "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

By their fruits you will know all men, Matt 7:20.

According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18

Bind: Spirit of Heaviness

Loose: Comforter-Holy Spirit, Garment of Praise, Oil of Joy, John 15:26; Isaiah 61:3

I know people like their own tunes, but this works for me. Listen to: Kingdom in the Streets by DION. It's on YouTube. OR, "IN 3D". Listen sometimes to Spiritual Warfare Scriptures. Type that in on YouTube and they will build up your faith. Praise will get you out of that Valley of Dry Bonesstand up on your feet and shake your fist at Heaviness.

He has to leave. He cannot cross the bloodline of Jesus's Blood. Jesus was cool when satan was tempting Him. He just fired off some scriptures.

You're gonna slay this Giant! Praise will get you through. Just trust me on this.

Mishael

Hi Earl, thanks for sharing your opinion, but I don't believe any of that is true. It sounds like you're not considering many other verses but just honed in on only 2 verses and interpreted them in such a way to arrive at your desired outcome. I don't believe your personal definition of freewill vs choices. These are one of the same. Eve chose to eat the fruit, and wasn't just an actress in a play God wrote. The Bible doesn't contradict itself, but I believe some readers make false assumptions. I suspect maybe you're not open to my previous points brought up. Other verses already shared that clearly show we have freewill to choose James 1:13-16, Joshua 24:15, Galatians 5:13, etc. so God bless.

This could be useful. "You (us) shall know the truth, and the truth sets us free." I'm thinking that: Not people, but spirits are on assignment in a room dedicated to Gods Word: the King James Bible.

So like last night I was about to go to bed, and the Holy Spirit said "contention".

If we read Psalms enough, we will see that King David occasionally was victim temporarily to sadness, anger at enemies, King Sauls relentless pursuit and many other issues. We work this stuff out by prayer and sometimes speaking the truth in the spirit of love, for the brethren.

Here is the origin of the spirit of contention. We need to recognize it's been busy in here for weeks. Lord, make me an instrument of Your Peace. Amen. Let's let the Spirit of Christ rule over our hearts.

Spirit of Jealousy: Manifestations:

Revenge-Spite, Anger-Rage, Jealousy, Hatred, Cruelty, Strife, Contention, Competition, Envy, Cause Divisions Scriptures; murder

( Genesis 4:4-6; 37:3,4,8; Proverbs 6:34; 10:12; 13:10; 14:16-17,29-30; 22:24-25; 27:4; 29:22-23; Numbers 5:14,30; 1 Thessalonians 4:8; Song of Solomon 8:6; Galatians 5:19)

Roots... "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

"By their fruits you will know all men," Matthew 7:20. According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18

BIND= Spirit of jealousy

LOOSE= Love of God, 1 Corinthians 13; Ephesians 5:2

Testimony: as a kid I lived in a household divided some ways. Me and my Dad were placid and peaceful. He was full-blood Cajun. I was a negotiator. My sister, the silent one. The others were fighting lots. Dynamics awful to live in. But you learn skills that are useful later on.

Michael the Archangel and Satan (a fired Archangel) contended for the body of Moses. Michael said, "THE LORD REBUKE THEE." Satan let go.

We have to recognize it for what it is. Let's all pray for these Comment Rooms. Lift them up and ask the Lord to bless them; attract unbelieving seekers of salvation in Peace.

THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRT

Galatians 5:22-23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Hi Renee.

Once we have given our life to the Lord with a pure heart God will make his abode with you. John 14;23.

I would say start out reading and studying the word in prayer. Some make the mistake and read the bible as if its an ordinary book, " It is a collection of 66 books that harmonize as one authored by God himself and revealed to us by the Holyspirit that abides in us when converted. Study with faith and patience and often as you can and the Lord will reward you as he pleases.

KEYS: ( Trust in the Lord.)

Here is a few things worth mentioning:

#1. Its not how many times you have read the bible that opens eyes, It's the empty vessel and pure heart that you take to the Lord.

#2. Starting out stay away from studying viewpoints. Often people let a viewpoints shape their theology rather than letting their theology shape their viewpoints.

#3. Get a hold of a good concordance, and perhaps a King James study bible.

#4. Don't spiritualize all the text, And there is nothing wrong with asking questions, test everything in the light of scripture. FELLOWSHIP IS IMPORTANT!

#5. Don't be discouraged by the false teachers, and learn to mark them. ( Mathew 7:15-20. ) They should have the fruit of the spirit. Galatians 5:22-23.

#6. Start afresh. Scrap all the conceptions you have of the bible or that you have heard and let the Holyspirit guild you.

#7. Let your study be the main source of your revelation.

NOTE:

1 John 2:27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Also Read 1 Corinthians 2:10-16.

There is some great teachers on this site that I'm sure will be more than happy to help you as you go on your journey.

God bless.

Hello, this question was just asked yesterday, and probably every week on this discussion area.

Here's verses about it:

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Here's a previous discussion I found via advanced search and selecting discussions.

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More verses:

Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."

OSAS believers: "Ok, but a Christian would never do that"

"Christians no longer have freewill to sin? Is that true?"

Joshua 24:15 "choose you this day whom ye will serve"

Matthew 7:21-23

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

Hebrews 6:4-6

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

2 Peter 2:20-21

Part II

2 Corinthians 1:9-10

"...God Which raiseth the dead: Who Delivered us from so great a death, and Doth Deliver: in Whom we trust that He Will Yet Deliver us"

2) God's Eternal Salvation in The Present Tense:

The believer Should do 'good works' for which we 'are created In Christ Jesus' Ephesians 2:10

Note that 'these works' will Never Be Equal to the Total Payment That Christ Made For 'the Penalty of sin,' for which "He Already Delivered" us in the past tense of 2 Corinthians 1:10

These good works are for submission To Him, so that 'He Doth Deliver' us from 'the Power of sin,' present tense of 2 Corinthians 1:10

We "work out Our Own salvation" which Should Be a lifetime of Deliverance From the Power of sin! Our personal {set our-'Self' apart} sanctification:

2A)

"Access The GRACE, Wherein ye stand!..." Romans 5:2

1) "Die Daily" by submission, according to Paul's exhortation:

"I beseech you therefore, brethren, By the Mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice..." Romans 12:1-2 cp 1 Corinthians 15:31

2)

"Walk In The Spirit!" Romans 8:1,4 Galatians 5:16,25

"And walk in love, as Christ Also Hath Loved us, and Hath Given HIMSELF For us An Offering and A Sacrifice To God for a sweet-smelling savour." Ephesians 5:2

2b)

Fulfil, by faith, ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE thy neighbor as thyself!" Galatians 5:6 Galatians 5:14 Romans 13:8-10

2c)

Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show thyself Approved Unto God! 2 Timothy 2:15 Eternal Results:

reward, or loss thereof 1 Corinthians 3:6-15, ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will Finally Be At The Judgment Day:

3) God's Eternal Salvation in The Future Tense:

CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body! This Is ETERNAL DELIVERANCE From the Presence of sin! 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 1 Corinthians 15:51-57



Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

2 Timothy 2:15 Romans 16:25 Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship Romans - Philemon

Word,

It says "Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.



Meekness, and as the old saying goes, "Meekness does not mean weakness." It means openness or receptivity. It's one of the words that Paul used for those in ministry.



It's also translated gentleness. But it means to be open. The person who's giving the word and ministering the things of Christ, that person must be more open and receptive than any other person. They can't close themselves off like they have arrived and everybody else hasn't. They have to be open.



And then temperance means self-control, or more literally the control of self. This is not self-control like trying to enforce discipline in our eating. "I've got to exhibit more self-control when I eat."



This word means to be controlled from within, to be controlled by the Spirit of God.



And then he says against such there is no law. And again, he's saying that this is the fruit of God's Spirit. There is no law against these.

Hope this helps!

Galatians 5:23, what is Paul saying to the Galatians

Thank you Brother Carleton, now I understand what you are asking or saying.

Where do we as bearers of light start. We can not TRULY start anywhere until we ourselves know TRUTH.

Matthew 23:15 Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him two fold more the child of hell than yourselves.

Mark 8:15 And he charged them saying, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and the leaven of Herod.

Galatians 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

Our churches send out men that have no spiritual knowledge and make converts like themselves, converts with no spiritual knowledge.

We as light bearers are to start with those God places in our path. If someone ask you for money give it to them, with no expectations. If they are hunger fed them, with no expectations, if they steal you coat give them also your cloak, with no expectations, if they physically abuse you lift not your hand, if they verbally abuse you lift not your voice.

People see more than they hear.

Doing these things on a day to day basis will cause them to ASK concerning your actions, now you can plant a SEED, and that may be all you ever do, but God will CAUSE that seed to be watered by someone else.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES (more than the lifespan we live) he might gather together IN ONE all things in Christ, both which are in heaven and which are on earth, IN HIM.

My two grandmothers were exact opposites of each other, one PREACHED heaven and hell to me on a daily basis, the other never said a word but live a visible life of Christ, guess who impacted my life the most.

Ask God to help you make a comprehensive list of your sins.

Confess every sin that the Holy Spirit calls to your remembrance and accept God's forgiveness ( 1 John 1:9).

Seek forgiveness from all whom you have offended, and forgive all who have hurt you ( Mark 11:25; Luke 11:4; 17:3,4).

Make restitution as the Holy Spirit leads you.

Ask God to fill you with His Holy Spirit according to His command in Ephesians 5:18 and His promise in 1 John 5:14,15.

Surrender your life fully to Jesus Christ as your Lord and Master; refuse to obey your worldly nature ( Romans 12:1,2).

Meditate on the attributes of God, His love, sovereignty, power, wisdom, faithfulness, grace, compassion, and others ( Psalm 48:9,10; 103:1-8, 11-13).

Begin your time of fasting and prayer with an expectant heart ( Hebrews 11:6).

Do not underestimate spiritual opposition. Satan sometimes intensifies the natural battle between body and spirit ( Galatians 5:16,17).

If you're married with kids, you'll still need to care for them. Attend to your duties, then excuse yourself back to your "closet".

I fast from food and ALL MEDIA. The idea is fast from food, AND feast on the Word of God. Ask the Holy Spirit to shield you from interruptions, like phone calls, people who drop in unannounced or uninvited.

Have on hand, bouillon, fruit juice, lots of water. Jesus hungered after his fast. (he drank water.)

If you are diabetic or on serious meds, check your blood sugar if you feel bad. Dehydration will stop a fast.

Read the Gospels. Spend time in praise and worship. You can do this at work with headphones on. Whatever you do; no long faces. Bathe and dress normal.

Write Eph. 6 on a piece of paper and keep it before you. Don't tell anyone you're on fast. Just your husband. Satan will try to make you mad, feel unspiritual. Jesus used SCRIPTURE to counter attack satans attacks.

It's good to read aloud. We have gates: ears, eyes, mouth, a heart of joy. The Word goes in through all gates.

Yes Glenn - very sad but very real. And you probably remember that the first sign of divisions took place in Corinth (see 1 Corinthians 1:10-13).

Here the Corinthian Church began to factionalize, probably emphasizing certain teachings, or even the preaching abilities that were seen in those mentioned (Paul, Apollos, Cephas, Christ). Briefly, these factions looked at Paul (as the Liberty Party: Galatians 5:1); Apollos (as the Intellectual & Eloquent Party: Acts 18:24-28); Cephas (as the Judaizing Party, clinging to many Jewish ceremonial duties, unlike Paul: Galatians 2:11-16); and Christ (as the Exclusive Party, having contempt for all human teachers bar Christ - allusion to this in 2 Corinthians 10:7).

Even though some may not agree with the above very general description, the fact remains that divisions based on personality & teaching began to develop even in the early Church. Should it be any wonder that two thousand years later, things would not get any better? As you study each denomination, you will see this common thread running through them, which has brought about separation, declaring 'we are the only ones with the Truth'. If it were not for the Holy Spirit indwelling only the truly saved, we could well think like them & believe that we are the only holders of Truth. But God has His own people in every place & in every denomination & for some there, they are still being exercised in mind & spirit to learn the Truth by reading God's Word for themselves & to leave when falsehood is preached or the Bible disregarded. We ought to pray for one another that we will not fall prey to the deceptions of the evil one & in forgetting to search the Scriptures.

Most know God is good , and so is his Holy Spirit .

But are we Good trees or bad trees ?

If we have the Holy Spirit we have the power to be good trees .

A Good tree can not bare bad fruit , a bad tree can not bear good fruit . Said Jesus and Apostles .

A few examples , of good fruit ; love others Be kind , merciful to others , even enemies , give to those in need , time our money , etc . Share the truth with others . Live a spotless or holy life . Not exceptOmg evil as good or be indifferent to it , no compromises. The list is longer but this should be the character of our lives in general , can we make errors and mistakes? Yes but they do not characterize our life . Confession to the Lord of these is always excepted when sincere.

I'm not correcting you just adding to what fruit is in the believer .

Thanks .

People's Bible Notes for Matthew 10:35

I am come to set a man at variance against his father. This was not the Savior's object, but the effect. The conversion of individual members of the family would cause variance. In nearly all quarrels, except those about religion, the members of the same family stand together, but in religious feuds the family circle is often broken and its parts arrayed against each other.

Wesley's Notes for Mark 7:22

Wickedness - The word means ill natured, cruelty, inhumanity, and all malevolent affections. Foolishness - Directly contrary to sobriety of thought and discourse: all kind of wild imaginations and extravagant passions.

One sign that you have received the holy spirit is the presence of the fruit of the Spirit. "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long suffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. ... Growth takes time, and you can be patient with yourself as you grow in the fruit of the Spirit.

12 FRUITS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT

The 12 fruits are charity (or love), joy, peace, patience, benignity (or kindness), goodness, longanimity (or long-suffering), mildness (or gentleness), faith, modesty, continency (or self-control), and chastity.

Gods Nature=

Omnipotence - God is all-powerful - everything consistent with God's nature is possible. Omniscience - God is all-knowing, of past, present and future. Omnibenevolence - God is all-good/all-loving. Omnipresence - God is present everywhere.

What does lasviviousness mean?

variance mean..?

This scripture is really encouraging.

Galatians 5:14 (KJV)

For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

This creates a environment free of Jealousy, hate, and debates etc. all the things that can cause health issues. Also, people will feel this. Show love; people will since this.

Good reminder for all ( John 3:16,17)

Lily Mcallister on John 1

Is the Holy Spirit a person?

Jehovah's is a spirit ( Psalm 83:18; John 4:24). and he made his Angels spirits ( psalm 104:4);

and he blew his spirit into Adam nostril "the breath of life." when a men or human dies, his breath goes out. and the spirit returns to God (not the flesh itself.. because the body is flesh made from dust - Genesis 2:7).

the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, these qualities is his spirit. this he has created men in his image to display these qualities to take care of the earth. -

Galatians 5:22,23

According to Matthew 28:18-20 Jesus said go therefore baptizing in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit (the accurate term is holy spirit because John 4:24 accurately says spirit). Also, Jesus is not God ( John 5:19) but he was raised up as a spirit again; and he is a Angel.- John 14:28

Point: God can give his spirit to anyone to serve his purpose- Luke 1:35. if we worship God, we must worship with spirit and truth- john 4:24. anyone who want to worship in truth...should believe in the word of God ( 2 Timothy 3:16,17). by this God will give his spirit and truth will speak.

To illustrate: person 1, person 2, and person 3 are all different people. God will and can give his spirit to person 2 to carry out a particular task. God may want person 2 to completes that task fully. he may use person 3 or person 1 to do something completely different or accomplish the same purpose. (so yes the spirit basically belongs to God, because he is a spirit and the source of distributing that spirit to accomplish his purpose.- Genesis 1:1,26,27 ). no human can force God to do this or that. he is the boss of the spirit.- Isaiah 43:11-13

hope these scriptures help.

Brother Spencer,

I enjoy our dialogue on scripture although we my have differences in the interpretation.

You state: NOW 1 JOHN 2:3-6. This is not the 10 commandments,

I see it clearly as the 10 Commandments.

You state: If so consider Galatians 5:3-4. and if you are under the law you'll need the temple built to do vain sacrifices that could never save.

The 10 commandments DO NOT include the old laws such as circumcision and temple sacrifice.

So in essence you seem to say that you do not believe that you need to follow God's 10 commandments. Is this true? Please consider the following scripture of Jesus coming to judge all of us.

Revelation 22:12-16

And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. 13I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 14Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city

So, Jesus says:" Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city". Do you believe this scripture?

God Bless.

Hi Brother Dan.

quoting you: "Yes, we need to commit as Christians to walk with Christ and are instructed to in many various scripture throughout the bible." WHERE DID YOU GET THE IDEA I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT?

The portion you pulled out of my comment was the first sentence of part 2. You should have considered the 1st sentence of part 1 as well then we would be keeping the discussion in a direct orderly fashion.

Here is the opening sentence of part 1. Is our atonement forever or once Christ freed us it's up to us to Atone for ourselves? Here is part 2. Some would argue once Christ saved us it's up to us to remain saved. My question to that group is can you do that and How? The emphasis here is if Christ offered the perfect sacrifice "ONCE" and for all to atone for our sins, If one believes the atonement isn't once and for all and sins again "which we all do"

How do he re-atone himself when there is no more sacrifice? Can he offer Good works when works of the law could never cleans you. Brother Dan I posted a lot of Scripture that you seem to bypass, If those scriptures doesn't mean what I seem to believe why don't you start off with each one of them and tell us what they do mean.

you've posted 2 scriptures, I will deal with Revelation 22:12-14. first.

HERE IS THE WORK.

John 6:28-29. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?

Jesus answered and said unto them, ( This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.)

When that's done then this happens. Philippians 1:6. Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ: And this. Philippians 2:13. For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

NOW 1 JOHN 2:3-6. This is not the 10 commandments, If so consider Galatians 5:3-4. and if you are under the law you'll need the temple built to do vain sacrifices that could never save.

God bless.

Thank you brother S. Spencer for your very worthy comments & the Scriptures you cited. Indeed, our salvation is all of Grace, only through His Blood, & we're kept secure till we see our Saviour; 1 Peter 1:5, "Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Our obedience & faith-generating works are manifest by the indwelling, out-working Holy Spirit. Romans 8:1; Galatians 5:16, 25.

Precious Billy, I will pray for you. Please prayerfully and carefully Consider God's Word:

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply, To "know you're going to heaven":

(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:

believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The Scriptures! ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4) ( Ephesians 2:8-9) ( Romans 3-5)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS Precious And ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God! {This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!} ETERNAL Justification First, And, THEN:

(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER EQUAL CHRIST's PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!}, for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM, having "been Called into fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!} Sanctification:

(2a) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor as yourself!" ( Galatians 5:14) ( Romans 13:8-10)

(2b) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show yourself Approved Unto God! ( 2 Timothy 2:15) - Have Plenty of examples of this, if you wish...

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} ( 1 Corinthians 3:7-15), ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At The Judgment Day:

(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!! {This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!} = "Going TO HEAVEN!" Amen?

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!

( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 =

Grace/Mystery fellowship, today?)

Amen Free.

On the surface it seems that Love is what we are told to do, Actually it's what we are "CAUSED" to do!! This bond is only accomplished by the Holyspirit.

By this we function.

By this the law is written in our hearts.

By this the Law is fulfilled.

Romans 13:8-10. Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

LOVE WORKETH NO ILL TO HIS NEIGHBOUR: THEREFORE LOVE IS THE FULFILLING OF THE LAW.

Galatians 5:13-14. For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.

FOR ALL THE LAW IS FULFILLED IN ONE WORD, EVEN IN THIS; THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF.

1 John 4:21. And this commandment have we from him, THAT HE WHO LOVETH GOD "LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO." By this the commandments would be fulfilled ( LOVE WORKETH NO ILL TO HIS NEIGHBOUR:)

If we Love God we ( WILL ) Love our Brothern.

Isn't it amazing we tare one another apart about whether we should keep the commandments or not and we neglect the spirit behind the task.

God bless.

Precious friend, Ron, I will pray for you; since you asked: "What are we to do? I'm not sure any more"? For this confusion, here are Three Scriptural things "to do":

(1) "Examine yourSELF" ( 2 Corinthians 13:5), and, believe God's Truth, for us, Today =

......................................... The Gospel of GRACE:

God Establishes HIS Eternal "Relationship" With those who humbly believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The Scriptures! ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4; Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 3-5) = "GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS Precious And ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God! {This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!} ETERNAL Justification First, And, THEN:

(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER EQUAL CHRIST's PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!}, for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM, having "been Called into 'fellowship' With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!} Sanctification:

(2a) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor as yourself!" ( Galatians 5:14; Romans 13:8-10)

(2b) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show thyself Approved Unto God! ( 2 Timothy 2:15) {Several helpful "studies" available, IF you wish...}

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} ( 1 Corinthians 3:8-15), ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At That Judgment Day:

(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!! {This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!} Amen?

Precious friend, Ron, Please Be RICHLY Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!!

In JESUS' Precious Name!!!

Job Auta Fruit is an indicator of spiritual growth and spiritual growth is determined on what you keep in your mind and act on. Things to put in mind Philippians 4:6, 4:8, Ephesians 4:22-32, 2 Peter 1:1-8 notice verse 8 for if these things be in you and abound they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Look at Galatians 5:22-25 is the product of what we put on in the mind and walk in with believing action. In His Service

Precious friend Ann, thanks for sharing. I will pray for you. Hope this helps:

God's Will, Today, Under HIS PURE GRACE? Very Simply:

(1) God Establishes HIS Eternal Relationship With those who humbly:

believe, 100% trust, place Total faith, In The LORD JESUS CHRIST, HIS Death {Precious BLOOD}, Burial, And HIS Resurrection, According To The Scriptures! ( 1 Corinthians 15:3-4) ( Ephesians 2:8-9) ( Romans 3-5)

"GRACE Through faith" In The Merits Of HIS Precious And ALL-Sufficient BLOOD Results:

All sins Forgiven, HIS Eternal Life, And, Peace With God! {This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PENALTY of sin!} ETERNAL Justification First, And, THEN:

(2) The believer SHOULD do "good works" {Which will NEVER EQUAL CHRIST's PAYMENT For the above PENALTY of sin!}, for Which we Are Created In CHRIST JESUS, to perform for HIM, having "been Called into fellowship With HIM!" Amen?:

We "work out OUR OWN salvation" {This SHOULD Be a lifetime of DELIVERANCE From the POWER of sin!} Sanctification:

(2a) Fulfil ALL Of His Law, In "ONE Word: LOVE your neighbor as yourself!" ( Galatians 5:14) ( Romans 13:8-10)

(2b) Study HIS Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided, to show yourself Approved Unto God! ( 2 Timothy 2:15) - Have Plenty of examples of this, if you wish...

Eternal Results: reward {or loss} ( 1 Corinthians 3:7-15), ruling and reigning With CHRIST, Which Will FINALLY Be At The Judgment Day:

(3) CHRIST's GLORIFICATION of All "members" Of HIS Body!! {This Is Eternal DELIVERANCE From the PRESENCE of sin!} Amen?

Precious friend Ann, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!

Part II (Previous) Gospel of the kingdom

Rightly Divided From ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

Gospel Of The GRACE Of God =

Gospel of the Uncircumcision ( Galatians 2:7; Galatians 6:15; Romans 4:9-11)

Preached first by Paul, then his companions ( Acts 13:38-39; Acts 20:24; Acts 16:31; Romans 3:24)

The Mystery Program for The Gentiles ( Ephesians 3:1-3; Colossians 1:25-27; Romans 16:25)

The preaching of The Cross as Good News ( 1 Corinthians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 2:2; 1 Corinthians 15:3,4)

Gospel to be believed = Christ's Work ( Romans 5:6 Romans 5:8 Romans 5:10; 1 Corinthians 15:3-4)

Salvation By GRACE Through faith plus nothing ( Ephesians 2:8-9; Romans 4:5; Titus 3:5)

Justification by faith without works emphasized ( Romans 3:28; Romans 4:5,16; Galatians 2:16)

Repentance as a synonym for faith ( Acts 17:30; Acts 20:21; Acts 26:20; Romans 2:4)

Involves reconciliation to God and man ( Romans 5:10-11; Romans 11:15; 2 Corinthians 5:18-20; Ephesians 2:16; Colossians 1:21)

Covers Paul's letters Romans - Philemon (Also Acts 9-28)

Not under the law ( Romans 5:20-21; Romans 6:14; Galatians 5:6)

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IMKane, hope this was helpful answering your Great questions.

Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, And Edified!