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Hello Roberta. Not knowing the exact nature of the matter or conflict between you & your granddaughter, I can only share some verses for you to look up & take to heart. I hope that they will minister to you both at your points of need. You can hover over the Scriptures with your mouse/pointing device or look them up in the Bible (also given here on this KJBO Site).

James 4:10; Ephesians 4:31,32; John 15:12; Romans 12:9,10; Philippians 2:3,4; Colossians 3:12-16; 1 Corinthians 13:4-7; Ephesians 4:2,3; Galatians 5:22-26; John 13:34,35 (given to re-emphasize John 15:12).

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If the Spirit speaks to one to keep Sabbath as a rest day, then to that person they should abide - but to another, the Sabbath was not given to Gentiles & any day can be for rest & also for worship ( Romans 14:5,6 & the whole chapter).

Gentile? If you have no Jewish heritage, then you fall under the Gentile category. If the Gentile has not received the Law, he is a law unto himself ( Romans 2:14,15). Of course, all peoples are under governmental law, unless they're hidden away from society. But for both the Jewish Christian & Gentile Christian, the old Law has no more application or binding, for we are now subject to the Law of the Spirit. I don't believe that anyone with the Holy Spirit within them would ever be led to murder, commit fornication, & other sins. If a believer does sin, then he's going against the Spirit's ministry & appealing to his flesh (& this is why Paul spoke of crucifying the flesh ( Galatians 5:24,25)).

Jew? When I wrote, 'Jewish convert', I meant that such a person still retains his Jewish heritage/bloodline, but has relinquished all that kept him bound to his faith (Judaism), finding forgiveness of sins, new life & liberty through the promised Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Jews today still await the Messiah, but Jesus came, but they refused Him & crucified Him ( John 1:10-14). But the day will come when they will acknowledge Jesus ( Zechariah 12:10,11; Revelation 1:7,8). People have in the past become Jewish proselytes, embracing Judaism, its Laws & Practises ( Exodus 12:48,49; Acts 2:10; Acts 6:5; Acts 13:43). I hope that I've covered all your questions; if you have other questions feel free to start a new thread. Blessings.

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(One believes in something that cannot be seen or produced - the other is working at something that is tangible - they cannot be mixed together). The Apostle Paul also wrote of this in Romans 11:6 (speaking of the "election of grace"): "if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work." God's Grace if freely given as a Gift, as is Faith to believe ( Ephesians 2:8,9). If works are added then it's no longer Grace (& Faith), but all of works. So James is saying that true Faith produces good works - NOT Faith plus Good Works produces true Faith.

You write of obeying the commandments. This is another long subject, but I'll be brief. If a believer is relying of Christ's Sacrifice & obedience to the Law to attain salvation, then again, the Sacrifice is made of no effect. Galatians 5:3,4, "For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law. Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace."

Here we have those who were "entangling themselves with the yoke of bondage" by wanting the liberty that Christ obtained for them & also placing themselves under the Law (which brought bondage & death). It's one thing to consider the Law (the 10 Commandments) in noting God's Rules to Israel for their relationship to God & to others, but if we determine that we must obey them, to be saved or acceptable to God, then we've "fallen from grace". So Sabbath for example, which is a Day of Rest to Israel, not a worship day per se, becomes critical to some Christians to observe, if not, then we would need to take a long look at this matter of Law & Grace. But God has given us His Spirit, whereby we obey all Christ's Commandments from the heart & not by the letter; see Romans 8:1-4. (cont'd)

Dear Free I do not understand what you mean. If you mean that the armour of God is. a gift from God, yes i agree, but the armour of God is for ALL christians not for some. Generally speaking virtually everything in the world a gift from God. But when we talk about spiritual gifts we usually mean the ones described in 1 Corinthians 12. Those are gifts that work within the congregation of the church members. Of course there are other gifts, natural talents, which we can use to serve our brothers and sisters.

The Holly Spirit does many functions. One of them is to give you His fruit. And as i know it, this happens when one is baptised in the Spirit and then is filled with the Spirit while praying That fruit love, joy, peace ... described in Galatians 5: 22-23 is not a fruit we aquire due our effords to be like that but is something that is given from God's Spirit. Well as i am not sure we are talking about the same thing I won't go any further. God bless you.

Free Greek literature lessons for everydody

The greek word CHARIS which is often translated in Engklish as Grace means gift. The word CHARISMA (plural CHARISMATA) means gift. DIDo not DIDOMI is a verb, it means I GIVE. DORO (plural DORA) another word in the greek text means PRESENT.

When in greek we say that we get saved by God's grace we mean that salvation is a gift/present, not a wage for good works.When we say that God's grace sustains us we mean that God give us His power to keep going though difficult situations in life. When we say that a person has grace (charis) we mean that that person has a gifted talent since birth, believers say from God, atheists say from nature.

Of course we find the word GIFT in the greek prototype, hundred of times i.e. Now there are diversities of gifts (CHARISMATA), but the same Spirit. (1 Corinhtians 12:4) and so on.

So salvation is a gift from GOD. That is completely different from the gifts that the Holy Spirit gives to God's children for use in church's service See 1 Corinthians 12:1-13. Those gifts (spiritual not natural) work or SHOULD work in church. There is also a difference between Spirit's gifts and Spirit's fruit which is mentioned in Galatians 5:22-23. Those are also gifts but they are something different from the gifts mentioned in 1 Corinthians 12:1-13.

The Word of God is simple. I wouldn't suggest that we all learn Greek or Hebrew to study the Bible. Just take as it is.

I don't intend to insult you but some things must put in order

God bless you.

The Greek word "PANTOTE" that is translated in English as alway/always here has the meaning "at any time, at all circumstances".

Of course you don't feel happy when you are ill or hurt or when you loose a person you love.It is impossible to rejoice 24 hours a day, 30 days a month, 12 months a year and so on. The verse doesn't have this meaning As i see it it has the meaning to always trust God snd have faith in Him that no matter what problems come into your life He will never let you down. And even if He decides for His own good reasons to not move away a problem you must still trust Him because His purpose is to get us into His kingdom in Heavens. His grace is on us and sustains us when we face difficult situations.

And His Spirit gives us joy. The fruit of the Spirit is love, JOY, peace... Galatians 5:22. So it is a necessity for God's childrey to ask for and get baptised in the Spirit of God. And get filled with the Holly Spirit when praying so to have God's power available when needed.

John 3:1+10 (verse 3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God)

Luke 13:2 And Jesus answering said unto them, Suppose ye that these Galilaeans were sinners above all the Galilaeans, because they suffered such things? (3) I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.

I humbly request your prayers for my family as we gather tomorrow to mourn the passing of my dear cousin, Paul. He touched the lives of others, often in unspoken ways. He acted selflessly in almost all he did, always putting others before himself.

[ Galatians 5:14 - For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy Neighbour as thyself.]

He will be dearly missed, and I pray that his friends and family will find peace in "celebrating" his life and KNOWING that he's up there smiling down at us from Heaven.

I specifically request your prayers to go out to Melissa (his daughter), her spouse, and 10 dependents, as she is the only surviving family member, and the burden of making all arrangements for the Service, reception, etc. has fallen upon her.

This is my first crack at sending out a prayer request of any kind. I pray that this is enough information to initiate "The Power of Prayer".

Thanks to all & God Bless,

D.E.P.

Hi John.

The things you say you are lacking is listed in the fruit of the Spirit.

Galatians 5:22-25. It's not something we can manifest.

This may not come by motivational speakers or mere teachings although they're profitable as a seed already planted needing water for edification.

However it takes a belief in who all the scripture is written about. "Jesus". We have peace in his faithfulness, Not ours.

Hebrews 13:5-6.

Hebrews 12:1-2.

Romans 8:28-39.

And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.

What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?

He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?

Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.

Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?

As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.

Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.

For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,

Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Spiritual growth comes by feeding, hearing, believing. 1 Peter 2:2.

God bless

There is no mention of keeping the Sabbath in the NT epistles. On the other hand, there are several passages reminding Christians that God does not intend them to focus on the law in their walk with Him but to focus on Him, and there is a difference.

Galatians 5:18

But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Romans 6:14

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.

Colossians 2:14

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The Holy Spirit is Your Teacher

The desire for Jesus is in you already. The Bible is the Word of God. Like these following scriptures show us: with your own spoken words, ask the Holy Spirit to make His home within your heart, To be your Teacher. Thats his ministry to you. You will know He is teaching you. Open your mouth and speak: "Holy Spirit, come alongside and teach me what this passage means?"

Begin in the Gospels and stay in there until you know who Jesus is to you; what he likes; doesn't like; listen to his replies to people he met on his journeys.

John 14:26

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.

Luke 12:12

For the Holy Ghost shall TEACH you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

2 Timothy 2:24

And the servant of the Lord must NOT strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, gentle

1 Timothy 6:3-4

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRT

Galatians 5: 22-23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

NOW we see through a glass, DARKLY, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I AM KNOWN. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is Love.

God watches over His Word. We're going to meet people who oppose themselves. Sometimes more is accomplished by praying for them. Heartfelt prayer is always right. Jesus is interceding for US. King David was a man after Gods own heart. His prayers and Psalms will help you.

Mishael

Hi Bob.

Here's what's important.

Galatians 5:19-26. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, "VARIANCE," emulations, wrath, "STRIFE," seditions, heresies,

Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.

God bless.

Hey Love of Jesus

Satan is a created being, what does he look like? Isaiah 14:12-15 morning star, translated Lucifer, the morning star/day star is the planet, Venus, it is brightest just before sunrise, 2 Corinthians 11:14 an angel of light, 1 Peter 5:8 a roaring lion, Revelation 12:3 great red dragon seven heads ten horns and seven crowns. There are many descriptions of Satan, but he is a master of disguise.

The horrific almost cartoonish description of Satan comes from the Middle Ages. If the understanding it is covering Satan, Ezekiel 28:14 says Satan was a covering cherub. There are seraphim we see in Isaiah 6:1-6 and in Revelation 4:6-9 called beasts, and cherubim, is in the bible more times, seraphim six wings, cherubim four wings. The biblical descriptions, I believe if we came face to face with, we would faint from fear.

Satan is not omnipresent; he can only be in one place at a time. There are evil spirits and evil angels he controls on this earth, we see in Daniel, battles that we cannot see, Daniel 10. The devil and his evil spirits can affect our life, and it can be vicious, Ephesians 6:12 but we far too often use that to excuse our own bad choices (the devil made me do it). Galatians 5:17

We also have been told, James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

God bless,

RLW

Hello Debra:

The Bible does not say it is sinful to drink alcohol, but it does say that drunkenness is sinful. See Isaiah 5:11, Proverbs 20:1. Ephesians 5:18 tells us not to be drunk with wine, but to be filled with the Holy Spirit.

2 Corinthians 5:11 and Romans 13:13 and Galatians 5:21 all list drunkenness or drunkard as sinful.

Hello Roy

My apology as the scripture I meant to use was

Galatians 5:13 rather than 3:13.

May make more sense!

Ty

The greatness of my God, the Lord Jesus Christ is His understanding of each of us. Each Saint, even the lost are different. The salvation for each person is the same- the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. However the path of our relationship with the Lord God is different for every Saint.

We are to be encouragers in our walk with others. Having an internet connection is not automatically evil or a dereliction of my faith. With my internet connection I am able to support 8 different ministries around the world. I am able to pray for situations I would not have otherwise known with out my internet connection. My connection allows me to hear and study the Word of God through platforms such as this one. I can hear and sing along with Godly music that lifts my soul. With my internet connection I can earn a little bit to supplement my meager social security benefits and still give to the church and missions as the Lord God leads me.

I don't want to get long on this, so I'll close with this. I'm a retired Christian school teacher, administrator, pastor, Sunday school teacher for over 40 years. I have 5 adult children, of which 4 are in Christian ministry work with their families. (sorry for bragging in Christ name) I have been using the internet for God's work for about 20 years.

I am physically unable to get around as I used too. I currently live with my youngest son who is wheel chair bound. Since the lock downs and such, with out the God given internet I would have a difficult time "worshipping" my God. The Bible tells me that every thing is good, and blessed by the Lord. We are the ones who mess it up, and make it a "dereliction." One of my life's verse is Galatians 5:16 "This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh." One of my visiting preacher friends said after preaching "if I've stepped on some toes- good! Live with it!"

God bless you all on this forum. Numbers 6: 24-27. March 2, 2022

Hate, not able to forgive. Its much of this today, becouse the dayes are eval.

Actually our forgivende state is from God. Him Self.

Please remember the 5 comandment. What it says?

All comandments goes up in one in Jesus Christ Holy Name. And its now living in the heart of the beliver. Galatians 3:19-25. It may be better words of this. Love your next/neighbor as your self.

Do u not understand this? Please do for your own sake.

Romans 14:19

If we kill ppl so think att least att those ppl who is left behind. And for your own sake. Today we live becouse God have the last word. Galatians 4:21-31

Galatians 5:16

Man kind can take life, but its not from God. Can we actually kill ppl He have make? Without penalty. And if we undersrand penalty, we go forward to Jesus Christ and ask for forgivnes. Then, He will tell u about sin, grace, freedom, and peace. Galatians chapter 3-4-5. This is the third time i get this word in a werry short time i know u will come to the thruth if u read, its for u. Amen

Love u all in Christ.

Brother Dan.

Part 2 of 2.

So we see in part 1, There's a distinction in #1) "a Jew in Christ," where there is no difference between them and a Gentile in Christ. Romans 10:12."

and #2) "National Israel."

That distinction of the 2 is embodied in the text in

Romans 9:6. ( All Israel is not Israel.

Romans 11:5. ( A remnant.)

Romans 11:7. ( the election.)

and

Romans 11:17. ( And if SOME of the branches be broken off,)

Brother Dan I leave off with this.

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing.

For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

For in Jesus Christ neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but faith which worketh by love. Galatians 5:1-6.

God bless you.

Dear S.Spencer,

Thank you for this in-depth study. I appreciate it.

My only comment is to your last statement on this post.

I do not think that anyone on here is really stating that they are trusting in one's ability in keeping the law. I think that this is a misrepresentation of what some are saying on here. Most on here agree that we are made righteous by faith in Jesus; that His work of salvation, perfect life, and perfect sacrifice is all we need to trust in for our right standing with God.

Most on here believe that it is through God's grace that we come to salvation; it is a gift from God and not earned. Most on here believe that being under grace frees us from the curse of the law and the need to try to attain righteousness by keeping the law. Most on here believe also that Paul repeatedly teaches believers to live godly lives and speaks against engaging in sins such as enumerated in Galatians 5:19-21; Colossians 3:9; Ephesians 4:17-32; 5:1-12; 1 Corinthians 6:8-10; 10:6-11; Romans 6:11-14; 13:8-10; 1 Thessalonians 5:21-22; Hebrews 13:4-5; because we are to walk in the Spirit and produce the fruit of the Spirit. Jesus also speaks to this in Rev. 22:14-15.

Therefore. I think it is improper for one to say things that will discourage believers from practicing godliness in their daily lives. Paul taught clearly that believers are to avoid that which is sinful. So, as a believer, I do not wish to covet, lie, steal, be sexually immoral, kill another, dishonor my parents, disregard sabbath resting, use the Lord's name improperly, set up any idol, or worship an idol, along with may other sinful actions Paul spoke against in his epistles, and in the words of Jesus, Himself.

One who is loving God and loving others will not make a habit of doing these sinful things, but only what good that is of the Spirit's grace and power in a believer's life. We are not talking about law keeping as it was required in the OT, living in obedience to God instead of in sinfulness.

Hi Anthony.

Part 1 of 2.

The way you asked the question, "Does the ten commandments apply to all including gentiles?" I would say, yes.

The next question would be, did the 10 commandments slay us all as Paul mentioned in Romans 7:8-9. I would say yes. Because no one has been able to keep the law. Even the greatest 2 Commandments is out our reach without being born again.

Mark 12:29-31. This is a love we can't produce without the Holyspirit being present. It's a fruit of the spirit, and all the law hangs on it.

Galatians 5:14. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Romans 13:10. Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

This is what baptism mentioned in Romans 6 is all about. "Not the outward profession we do in water but the inward identification of the Spirit." which has much to say about the sabbath.

In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ. Colossians 2:11-17.

see Part 2.

Part 3.

Romans 2:24-29.

Verse 25. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Do you see the Dilemma if you take the verse the way you understood it? If we are Jews the way you described it and can't keep the law then our circumcision becomes uncircumcision if we deny the grace of God and put our trust in the flesh! We also would be broken off!

You are attempting to graft into the broken branch rather the olive tree!

Verse 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

This comes at the new birth of the believer and ministered by the Spirit, Not the letter. Its obeying the commandment written on our heart not the letter written on stone. And this comes after Salvation Not to obtain Salvation.

Galatians 5:1-6.

There is the groups mentioned in scripture and they're all distinct. Jews, Gentiles and the Church of God.

1 Corinthians 10:32. Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

God bless."

Brother Dan.

Part 3.

Romans 2:24-29.

Verse 25. For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision. Do you see the Dilemma if you take the verse the way you understood it? If we are Jews the way you described it and can't keep the law then our circumcision becomes uncircumcision if we deny the grace of God and put our trust in the flesh! We also would be broken off!

You are attempting to graft into the broken branch rather the olive tree!

Verse 29. But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

This comes at the new birth of the believer and ministered by the Spirit, Not the letter. Its obeying the commandment written on our heart not the letter written on stone. And this comes after Salvation Not to obtain Salvation.

Galatians 5:1-6.

There is the groups mentioned in scripture and they're all distinct. Jews, Gentiles and the Church of God.

1 Corinthians 10:32. Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:

God bless.

Gal. 5 : 4 ...Whosoever you are that are Justifed by the LAW YOU are fallen from grace...Christ is become as none effect unto you....It simply means we are redemned by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB...Not circumsicion nor uncircumcision....Only that new creature which is the H.G. That Child of Promise ...A baby Christ that results from the heavenly birth....After that woman gave birth to the Child which is a baby Christ the H.G. .... Rev 12.. She keeps the commandments....Simply b/c her Child is the testimony of Jesus...That Child of Promise...The multiplication of Christ in us via his seed the words of the book...that new Covenant.

.....But all this just establishes the law....Simply b/c we are gonna birth a Baby Christ

That is gonna result in a marriage...Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child

you will in no wise enter there in....The Child is the Kingdom...After the woman births the

Child verse 10... Rev 12 : 10 ..It says now is come salvation and the kingdom of our God and the power of his Christ....( THE CHILD )...Thats y he is saying unless you receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child etc.

Hi again Brother Dan.

Philippians 2:12. This verse speaks of ongoing obedience for those already saved. It's crucial to note that Paul is not telling them to work for their salvation. This statement implies a need to live out-to practice, demonstrate, and exhibit-the salvation which believers have in Christ.

The Greek word for "work out" is katergazomai and it can mean "to perform, it is a present tense command. so if you take that and verse 13, You are to "present that which is being worked in you."

Here's how it reads, It's one sentence. And verse 13 is very important!

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

Vs 13)- FOR IT IS GOD WHICH WORKETH IN YOU BOTH TO WILL AND TO DO OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE."

You have to have salvation IN you to work it OUT you.

Anytime we add anything to the finish work on the cross we fall from Grace!

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.

Galatians 5:4.

You and I agree on some things but where we are divided is one word.

"Requirement" I hold the view that the keeping of the law is not required for salvation. It's the Spirit in us that urges us to put forward the effort of obedience.

With the mindset that one would have to keep the law for salvation contradicts the sabbath rest they're trying to keep when we examine what that rest is.

God bless.

There are 27 scriptures that say it was a cross. Only 2 say Pole

1 Corinthians 1:18

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Galatians 5:11

And I, brethren, if I yet preach circumcision, why do I yet suffer persecution? then is the offence of the cross ceased.

Galatians 6:14

But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world.

Ephesians 2:16

And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

Philippians 2:8

And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.

Philippians 3:18

(For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ:

Colossians 1:20

And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Colossians 2:14

Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Hebrews 12:2

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

*Next 2 verses referring to Jesus

Numbers 21:8

And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a POLE: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, SHALL LIVE.

Numbers 21:9

And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, HE LIVED.

Hi Charles.

The conflict over Israel is not the wrong DNA.

GOD said he will make a nation out of Abraham. Genesis 12:2.

God confirmed a covenant with Abraham and his seed afterwards. Genesis 17:7.

These promises was also confirmed with Isaac and Jacob.

It's the heir of promise given to Abraham.

Down through Isaac and Jacob that is fought over.

See: Galatians 4:29-30. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The seed that was promised to come that would bless the world is Christ.

Galatians 3:16. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

If you study the Genealogy of Christ you will see they're Gentiles in it. Ruth being one. and also Rahab.

God sanctified Israel and gave them the seal of circumcision. "A cutting away the filt of the flesh " Gentiles was considered unclean. but if the wanted to come into the camp and remain they had to be circumcised.

Genesis 17:12. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

TODAY CIRCUMCISION AVAILETH NOTHING.

Galatians 5:6.

Galatians 6:15.

We become that new creature through our new birth in Christ. "Baptism of The Holyspirit ".

God bless.

Hi Charles.

The conflict over Israel is not the wrong DNA.

GOD said he will make a nation out of Abraham. Genesis 12:2.

God confirmed a covenant with Abraham and his seed afterwards. Genesis 17:7.

These promises was also confirmed with Isaac and Jacob.

It's the heir of promise given to Abraham.

Down through Isaac and Jacob that is fought over.

See: Galatians 4:29-30. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman.

The seed that was promised to come that would bless the world is Christ.

Galatians 3:16. Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

If you study the Genealogy of Christ you will see they're Gentiles in it. Ruth being one. and also Rahab.

God sanctified Israel and gave them the seal of circumcision. "A cutting away the filt of the flesh " Gentiles was considered unclean. but if the wanted to come into the camp and remain they had to be circumcised.

Genesis 17:12. And he that is eight days old shall be circumcised among you, every man child in your generations, he that is born in the house, or bought with money of any stranger, which is not of thy seed.

TODAY CIRCUMCISION AVAILETH NOTHING.

Galatians 5:6.

Galatians 6:15.

We become that new creature through our new birth in Christ. "Baptism of The Holyspirit ".

God bless.

Just my suggestion but begin with the New Testament starting with Matthew to Revelation. Take your time and sometimes re-read a chapter as sometimes it becomes clearer when you read it the second time.

Matthew 5:3-18, John 1:1-14, John 14:6, Galatians 5:22-23

Leviticus 1, the several books of Leviticus points out the laws, you can continue through each of them & find the laws you're referring to.

Genesis 9:22-27, Genesis 13:13, Genesis 18:20,21,22, Genesis 19, Revelations 11:8,

2 Peter 2:1-15, Jude 1:7-25, Isaiah 3:9, Jeremiah 23:14, Romans 1:18-32,

Galatians 5:16,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.