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Despite what everyone else says, Ham saw his dad, and laughed and pointed at Noah.

The other 2 brothers shielded their eyes and covered their Dads nakedness, and did not make fun like Ham did.

How many of us have enjoyed a shower after a hot, sticky, hard day of work (like building an Ark);

Laid down on the bed naked and fell asleep instantly? ANYONE??

Genesis 9:20-23 KJV

[20] And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: [21] And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. [22] And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. [23] And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

Ham invaded his father's privacy just like when a child opens their parents door without knocking or introducing themselves . That is the wrong that Ham did. It's against Gods law for a child to uncover their parents nakedness even in the time of Noah, it was given to be written down by Moses, but during the time of Noah, this rule was already known.

His son had sexual relationship with his mother,.. Noah's wife,.. which also resulted her having a child ,..

Genesis 9:24

"And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him."

What is it that Noah's younger son had done?

I have a rule myself to let the HOLY Spirit teach us as we read. 1 John 2:27, John 14:26,

Sometimes we have to work at "unlearning" what someone tells us the Bible says. GOD's WORD is a "living Word" it teaches, corrects, edifies._.. 2 Timothy 3:16, & gives us wisdom. James 1:5,

Genesis 34, is the account. Notice : Genesis 34:2, they were Hivite

Exodus 23:28, Exodus 34:11, Exodus 33:2, Genesis 10:15-19, Joshua 9,



Hopefully this is all helpful.

Thank you "GiGi" for pointing out her approximate age through scriptural knowledge. Genesis 30:19-31, Genesis 31:38-41,

Genesis 33:13-17, it says after they met Esau, they built a house & booths for cattle it doesn't say exactly how long they were there. It appears they may have left when Joseph was about 6 yrs. old because Genesis 31:41, But it was before Joseph was 17, Dinah seems to be older sister, they then pitched a tent._ Genesis 33:18-20 The only accounts of age we're given is Joseph was born & Genesis 30:25, Genesis 37:1-2, yet Joseph went to find his brethren in (Shechem) so was this timing, a historical account putting both situations about the same time? Genesis 37:11-14, because later Israel/Jacob tells Joseph about his mother's death & burial, that happened on Journey Genesis 35:1, Genesis 35:15-20, Genesis 35:27-29, Genesis 48:1-7, Genesis 45:25, Genesis 46:6,

Here are a few scriptures to help point towards truth in this question:

Genesis 1:1-8, creation of heavens or heaven aka Universe.

Genesis 1:14-19 GOD created the lights within the heavens/universe Earth's Moon & Sun, the galaxies, stars

2 Peter 3:8, I take this scripture also in consideration when trying to calculate.

Genesis 5:1-5, (Adam), Genesis 5:6-8, (Seth), Genesis 5:9-11 (Enos), Genesis 5:12-14 (Cainan), Genesis 5:15-17 (Mahalaleel), Genesis 5:18-20 (Jared), Genesis 5:21-24 (Enoch), Genesis 5:25-27 (Methuselah), Genesis 5:28-31 (Lamech), Genesis 5:32 beginning of Noahs days. Genesis 9:28-29, (Noah) , these all can be calculated

Genesis 10, goes from Noah's sons into historical events, which are more difficult to calculate. Then picks up again at Genesis 10:29 (Abram) aka Abraham. Genesis 11 also has calculatable ages.

Matthew 1:17,

To add to the difficulty in exact dates the beginning of the year changed for the Hebrews in Exodus 12:2,18,27, which is celebrated in Spring. In todays calendar is usually 3rd or 4th month of our calendar.

Hopefully these are helpful in your study.

Sons of Noah: Shem, Ham and Japheth

The Genesis flood narrative tells how Noah and his three sons Shem, Ham, and Japheth, together with their wives, were saved from the Deluge to repopulate the Earth. ... In chapter 11 verses 10-26 a second list of descendants of Shem names Abraham and thus the Israelites.

In the Book of Jubilees (160-150 BC) the names of the wives of Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth are as follows:

* Wife of Noah - Emzara.

* Wife of Shem - Sedeqetelebab.

* Wife of Ham - Na'eltama'uk.

* Wife of Japheth - 'Adataneses.

In the Biblical view, the listed children of Japheth, Shem and Ham correspond to various historic nations and peoples. In the typical interpretation, these sons of Noah correspond to three races: European, Semitic, and African. Alternate divisions claim Euro-Asian Japhet, Semitic Shem, and Afro-Asian Ham.

The Genesis Rabba midrash lists Naamah, the daughter of Lamech and sister of Tubal-Cain, as the wife of Noah, as does the 11th-century Jewish commentator Rashi in his commentary on Genesis 4:22.

In the medieval midrash Parry, J. H. (ed.). "5:15". Book of Jasher. Translated by Moses, Samuel., the name of Noah's wife is said to be Naamah, daughter of Enoch.

Since the 17th century a number of suggestions have been made that relate the name Ham to a Hebrew word for "burnt", "black" or "hot", to the Egyptian word m for "servant" or the word m for "majesty" or the Egyptian word kmt for "Egypt".[4] A 2004 review of David Goldenberg's The Curse of Ham: Race and Slavery in Early Judaism, Christianity and Islam (2003) states that Goldenberg "argues persuasively that the biblical name Ham bears no relationship at all to the notion of blackness and as of now is of UNKNOWN (color) etymology.

Google has charts on Noah's Geneology

Not as far as Scripture is concerned, nor any other source I've read.

Did Noah have more children after the flood

Hi Maranatha Nimrod was a real piece of work who was absolutely defiant in the face of the True God

In Genesis 10:9 the word before in this context is defiant or against the same word used in Genesis 6:11

where the earth wa corrupt before the lord.

1 Chronicles 16:42, 1 Chronicles 15:19, 1 Kings 7:14, Exodus 31:2-5, There's a few

Hello Richard. I'm unsure whether you're thinking of the time when the plans & the building of the Tabernacle & all its furniture & accoutrements were put forward, or to some other instance. If you can let us know of a particular instance that you're thinking of.

Otherwise, of the Tabernacle, we can read in Exodus chapters 25 to 40, all that was required for its construction. And particularly chapters 31 onwards are interspersed with the work done by the various folk. So, it will take a good bit of reading & identifying on your part.

Where can I find the craftmandhip/talents of the different tribes

You are welcome GiGi.

God bless.

Thank you for taking the time to read my posts. They are wordy, but I hope they are helpful to others as I write my "musings" through Genesis, perhaps bringing something fresh to the discussion. God bless you.

Hi GiGi.

Thanks for your comments! I have read them all and enjoyed them.



continue with us and God bless you.

This chapter is referred to as the Table of Nations, as it shows the genealogy of Noah through his three sons, by whom all of the nations were "seeded". They were not yet scattered al over the earth if this chapter is chronologically before Chapter 11. But Chapter 11 will precipitate the dispersal of these peoples farther apart outside of the Mesopotamia area.

This genealogy also shows the lineage of Shem - Peleg at which time the nations were scattered at Babel, or, another theory is this is the time that the one major continent broke apart and began to separate into two hemispheres. Both could have happened at this time. Whether the drift of the continents was slow or rapid, perhaps the answer lies with geologists. I happen to think that it was slow and that facilitated to habitation of all of all areas of the earth. I don't think it was fast and abrupt. The major geological and climatic events of a rapid division would have been noteworthy and I believe it would have been recorded in the Bible.

Hello Shirley. There's not a lot written about the man, Canaan, unlike the many references throughout the Old Testament to the Land of Canaan, its people, its idolatry, wars, etc. Since you're doing an essay on the man himself, the only references are in Genesis chapters 9 & Genesis 10:15; 1 Chronicles 1:8-16; and The Book of Jubilees (this is a pseudepigraphical book, i.e. one not considered worthy in content or authorship to be included into the Canon of Scripture), where you will find reference to Canaan (Jubilees 9:1; 10:29-34). I never use such books because of errors within them, but suggest this for your perusal (you can find exercepts of it on the Web) in case there may be something useful there.

You're going to have to do some fancy googling; maybe read some Hebrew history. You can hang out or check tomorrow; CHRIS may already know that date.

Genesis 6:9

These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

Genesis 7:13

In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;

Genesis 5:32

And Noah was five hundred years old: and Noah begat Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

Genesis 7:9

There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

Isaiah 54:9

For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.

Genesis 9:28

And all the days of Noah were nine hundred and fifty years: and he died.

Genesis 7:6

And Noah was six hundred years old when the flood of waters was upon the earth.

Genesis 7:11

In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Genesis 8:13

And it came to pass in the six hundredth and first year, in the first month, the first day of the month, the waters were dried up from off the earth: and Noah removed the covering of the ark, and looked, and, behold, the face of the ground was dry.

Genesis 10:1

Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

Adam,

I concur with what you have said, except the black man's plight does matter and is worth seeking discovery.

We're split concerning the real Jews of Judah, who wandered and lost their identity, and the false Jews of Khazaria. The Khazar's are Ashkenazi Jews of Japheth ( Genesis 10:2-3), from a 740 AD mass conversion. They are not Semitic, and they live in the tents of Shem. They are European, not of middle-eastern origin. They are WHITE, not olive, and have blond hair and blue eyes!!! The Jerusalem post had a huge write up on it years ago verifying their DNA as European. The current supplanters of Israel are in fact Khazars. Jesus called them the synagogue of satan, ( Revelation 2:9) and they behave just like their wicked partner, America.

Jesus was a Hebrew. The 1st man to be called Hebrew was Abram ( Genesis 14:13)

Jesus was Semitic (Shem), with color and tone similar to their Arab cousins

Today's Jews are Ashkenazi ( Genesis 10:2-3) they are 7th century Khazar converts of Japheth. ( Revelation 2:9)



( Genesis 9:27) God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

Sounds like Canaan will be a slave to his two brothers ( Isaiah 14:1-2)

In the Jewish year 3303 Josiah hid the ark (God hid his face), it would be needed no more. 2Kings 23:3. The new covenant put the law written in stone in the hart of flesh. This was done on Pentecost in the Jewish year 3793. This is the same year of the cross of Jesus. 7 weeks after Josiah restored the covenant of the fathers Ezekiel prophesied of the new Jerusalem. This gave hope to captive Israel and signaled that God had rested his fury, and they only had to endure until the end of the 70 years of captivity. Eze. 21:17 After 62 weeks in the Jewish year 3787 John the Baptist came announcing that the Messiah was walking among them. The total length of the prophesy was 490 years. 3303 - 3793 = 490 years. Jesus continued to confirm the covenant after the cross. The end of the confirmation would have been Cornelius as the Gentiles as promised. The law to the Jews first and then to the Gentiles.

The restoring of the covenant in 3303 was the " restore" that Daniel knew about and was a part of. Everything done after 3303 was unto the Messiah.

What are the laws of The Lord?

is this when all nations turn against Israel

The 144,000 were of the tribes of Israel ( Rev 7:4). The number of people to be saved is innumerable ( Rev 7:9).

In Revelations it talks about the 144000.Is that the total amounts of christians that will be excepted into heaven?

Jannelle,

The Old Testament saints were saved the same as New Testament saints, by faith. Although they did not know who or how they were to be saved as we do on this side of Calvary, they put their faith in God to save them. They had faith in the savior to come as we have faith in the savior that came, Jesus Christ. Just read Hebrews 11 to see many of the Old Testament saints that are mentioned as having faith.

Before Christ rose from the grave, Old Testament saints were held in Abraham's bosom as mentioned in Luke 16:22 as their sins had not yet been paid for. After Christ's resurrection, the saints were taken to heaven with Christ. Their sins paid for the same as ours, by the sacrifice of Jesus.

Jannelle, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Galatians 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith (CHRIST IS OUR FAITH), preached before the GOSPEL unto Abraham, saying in thee shall all these nations be blessed.

Hebrews 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, AS WELL AS UNTO THEM: but the word (CHRIST) preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them (CHRIST IN THEM) that heard it.

The GOSPEL IS:

2 Timothy 1:10 But is now made manifest (Christ in the flesh) by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath ABOLISHED DEATH, and hath brought LIFE and IMMORTALITY to light through the gospel.

1 John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil (alive to the flesh), for the devil sinneth from the beginning, For this purpose (gospel) the Son of Man was MANIFESTED, that he might destroy THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL.

This is the GOSPEL: You (seed of flesh) died on the cross with Christ and you (seed of Spirit) was RAISED with HIM.

The saints of old received this promise also at HIS RESURRECTION

Hebrews 11:39 And these all, having received a good report through faith, received not the promise (victory over sin and death) (CHRIST IN US):

Hebrews 11:49 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect (accomplished at Christ death and resurrection).

Matthew 27:52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

Matthew 27:53 And came out of the graves at HIS RESURRECTION, and went into the holy city (new Jerusalem), and appeared to many.

I think the reason for this is found in the last verse 32: "These are the families of the sons of Noah, after their generations, in their nations: and by these were the nations divided in the earth after the flood."

From Noah & his sons, all the Earth was repopulated after the Flood, which wiped out everyone. Even though most of those names might not mean much to us, it was important to Israel in understanding their roots & to historians who would be able to follow the generations which came from those names.

In Genesis chapter 10, what is the importance of the bible listing all these sons and daughters? So many sons and daughters were listed and I am wondering why?