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1 Corinthians 7:19, KJV: "Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God."

My husband was never circumcised and has just died at 80 years old. Does that mean he is

cut off from God?

Sacha,

Good choice. Unless you're a scholar in Hebrew, and I am surely NOT, having the Hebrew is of little value.

I occasionally read stuff that refers to Hebrew characters' numeric value and so on those rare occasions, I'll open my Hebrew to see those characters or words. BTW, a Strongs Concordance, also in my eSword app, can help a lot!

Here are a few instances that I've found interesting and inspiring.

Abram and Sarai-God changed each of their names by adding the Hebrew character Heh (think breath). He breathed into each of them.

Rahab tells the spies to hide 3 days, helps them escape using a rope (word connoting sorrow) and arranges to identify her family with a scarlet cord (word connoting hope). Christ died and rise the third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES.

Solomon's laver, 10 cubits across and 30 cubits around, ratio is 3 vs 3.14159. 1Ki 7:23; 2Cr 4:2. The Hebrew word fir circumference is spelled two different ways and the numerical difference in the Hebrew characters gives a solution that is correct to 3 decimal places compared to using pi.

Hi Richard in Christ ,assuming you didnt do a lot of typos in that rendering of the psalm from the.hebrew ,i think i shall keep my pennies and stick to my k.j.v. thankyou so much .

Hello Skip,

As I'll say this reply is for Sacha as well. Seeing those differences on Psalms 22:16 led me to check that verse on the site I use to go over the Holy Scriptures from other translations.

The site I refer to has the Masoretic Text which is said to be the authoritative Hebrew text of the 24 books of the Tanakh(OT) in Judaism. Using that site I copied and pasted that psalm on google translate to English. This is what came up:

Psalms 22:16 Because dog soaps are a testament to the kippon grazing kari by my hands and feet.

Which I cannot fully understand as a couple of those words I do not know.

Using the verse analysis makes more sense as the last four Hebrew words are H5362, H3738, H3027 then H7272. Which would be like "strike with violence, to dig bore or open, hands, feet." I see where the "lion" comes from as that is the Hebrew word H738 which is only in the KJV translation for "pierced" which makes no sense. As that word is not in the Masoretic Text for that Psalm.

Very interesting though. As some other verses I translated were almost exact to the KJV. Some much more simple etc.

Always good to study the Scriptures.

My Bible is the eSword app for iPad. I have lots of translations (20+) in this app including Hebrew (Tanach) with Strongs, KJV with Strongs, JPS (Jewish Publication Society) Old Testament.

For instance, this is a comparison of Psalm 22:16

(KJVA)For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.

(Hebrew OT)

(JPS)(22:17) For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have inclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet.

Hi Skip ,im sorry ,i should have made myself clear ,i mean a copy of the Hebrew Torah ,with English translation of course ,i was just wondering if anyone knew how much if any differnces there are between it and the k.j.v.

The Torah is Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy, the first five books of The Bible written by Moses by inspiration of The Holy Spirit.

Have you NOT read the Torah? I probably have read Leviticus the least. I'm currently in a Bible study on Genesis. But I've read through these books many times over the years.

Many significant things to me: a very few of them are...

Abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness. Genesis 15:6

Moses intercedes for his people Exodus 33:12-23 "My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest."

Sevenfold curses for Israel's rebellion Leviticus 26

Moses strikes the rock twice. Oops! Numbers 20:10-13

How can we know if a prophet speaks from God Deuteronomy 18:15-22

Hi everyone ,has anyone read the Torah ? Im asking because i am thinking of getting myself a copy ,if you have read it can you tell me what you think please ?

How is Christ's crucifixion connected to repentance or surrendering

Hello to you CINDY,

Well, you have pointed out a statement that Lot made. Remember whom Lot made the statement to, Lot is not as God who knows all things. As I mentioned before, Lot maybe thought his daughters were virgins, and also I'm just speculating that they were not. Also keep in mind that these men could care less if they were, because they were more into the back and not the front (if you get what I mean). God bless you

Hello Richard Curtiss,

Are you referring to the KJV of 1611? If so, I take it you have not thoroughly read it because it has many references to the name or names of GOD. I have listed a few here: I AM THAT I AM ( means sender) Exodus 3:14

: JEHOVAH ( means God Almighty, Most High, Everlasting and so on.Ex6:3

: JESUS (means Savior, The Word) John 1:14.

: ISAIAH 40:28

It's too many to mention on this platform; but I hope this list will help you or do you have something else to share or enlighten? God bless you

Ecclesiastes 3:14-17 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.

17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.

Ecclesiastes 5:8 If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for he that is higher than the highest regardeth; and there be higher than they.

Ecclesiastes 7:8-9 Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.

9 Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

2 Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

I asked this question because I think God works through mankind (believing or not) to further His Gospel by free choice.

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why are the names of God not in the KJV? The words Lord and God being substituted

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Why would he risk lying to this bunch of sexual perverts?

Hi Darren, that's nice of you. I'm doing ok, God bless you.

Was America, speaking of the US, the first country that separated infant baptism from citizenship?

Adam,

I haven't seen you on the board in a few days. Hope you are OK.

CINDY,

I'm not too sure these girls were virgins because Lot their father would have noticed blood on him the next day. Also being drunk would have been difficult for penetration. Maybe Lot thought they were Virgins. Anyway, that's my thought. God bless you

1 Corinthians 6:12

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

1 Corinthians 10:23

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

I don't think recovering alcoholics should test this out. Also, if you crash your car after drinking, your insurance could be cancelled; plus the cost of insurance goes up.

If you cause a death with a vehicle, complications and lawsuits ensue.

I worked at a DMV 23 yrs. The cost of a DWI is upwards of $9000, or more. The cost of an Uber ride is much less.

If other people see a Christian out drinking, it may influence their decision to accept Christ.

If your heart condemns you, think about that. If you or other people are not edified, then follow your conscience.

It's just as nice to meet at a coffee hangout to drink designer coffee & eat pie. Conversation is great and being sober leads to just as interesting conversations.

My friends and I would meet at a taco restaurant after church and get a huge platter of nachos with all kinds of stuff piled on and 6 or 7 people could graze on that. It was always edifying and fun! We prayed and talked about our experiences with Jesus that week. It beats being single and being home alone talking to the walls.

Sharpen your friendship skills and invite some other singles to meet up there at a specific time and place.

It's the "worlds voice" that says we have to do this with alcohol and music loud enough to cause nose bleeds.

Take a listen on YouTube to a song about not being part of the world system anymore. Type this=

Petra Visions / Not Of This World

The Lord bless you, Mishael

ROBIN,

Use upper case G for God, it shows honor. God bless you

RONBIN,

Alcohol is a spice to be used in drinks and food and also as a preservative. But like everything else, anything in excess can lead to abuse and death. It's the same with Adam and Eve. God command Adam to take care of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but Adam went and did more, he eat the fruit. So use it according to its purpose and proportion and all will be well with you, your neighbors and most importantly, God. God bless you

CARLETON,



Yes, by God's strength and mercy, not my strength. God bless you

CINDY,

Yes Ms. Cindy, but still the moral of the story is, on judgement day when all sins have ran its course, God will take all His chosen ones, male and female, from this earth to the New Heavens and New Earth, and will destroy this earth and all in it with fire and brimstone. God bless you

Thank you Vince! Most important now that we not turn back from our commitment in Jesus Christ.

You're right. My bad. It was the sons-in-law who refused to leave. Said sons-in-law were betrothed to Lot's daughters and the girls were virgins when they left.

Thanks for the reply. One more question. Is drinking alcohol a sin?

Isaiah 59:1-3 Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

Malachi 3:7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

James 4:7-10 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

To Cindy,

Also Cindy, Lot and his family were not willing participants to leave the city life. God's salvation plan does not includes willing participants, HE draws and leads just like HE draws and leads Lot and his family out of the city. God bless you