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How is Christ's crucifixion connected to repentance or surrendering

Hello to you CINDY,

Well, you have pointed out a statement that Lot made. Remember whom Lot made the statement to, Lot is not as God who knows all things. As I mentioned before, Lot maybe thought his daughters were virgins, and also I'm just speculating that they were not. Also keep in mind that these men could care less if they were, because they were more into the back and not the front (if you get what I mean). God bless you

Hello Richard Curtiss,

Are you referring to the KJV of 1611? If so, I take it you have not thoroughly read it because it has many references to the name or names of GOD. I have listed a few here: I AM THAT I AM ( means sender) Exodus 3:14

: JEHOVAH ( means God Almighty, Most High, Everlasting and so on.Ex6:3

: JESUS (means Savior, The Word) John 1:14.

: ISAIAH 40:28

It's too many to mention on this platform; but I hope this list will help you or do you have something else to share or enlighten? God bless you

Ecclesiastes 3:14-17 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.

15 That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

16 And moreover I saw under the sun the place of judgment, that wickedness was there; and the place of righteousness, that iniquity was there.

17 I said in mine heart, God shall judge the righteous and the wicked: for there is a time there for every purpose and for every work.

Ecclesiastes 5:8 If thou seest the oppression of the poor, and violent perverting of judgment and justice in a province, marvel not at the matter: for he that is higher than the highest regardeth; and there be higher than they.

Ecclesiastes 7:8-9 Better is the end of a thing than the beginning thereof: and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit.

9 Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.

2 Timothy 4:5 But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry.

I asked this question because I think God works through mankind (believing or not) to further His Gospel by free choice.

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why are the names of God not in the KJV? The words Lord and God being substituted

Genesis 19:8 Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

Why would he risk lying to this bunch of sexual perverts?

Hi Darren, that's nice of you. I'm doing ok, God bless you.

Was America, speaking of the US, the first country that separated infant baptism from citizenship?

Adam,

I haven't seen you on the board in a few days. Hope you are OK.

CINDY,

I'm not too sure these girls were virgins because Lot their father would have noticed blood on him the next day. Also being drunk would have been difficult for penetration. Maybe Lot thought they were Virgins. Anyway, that's my thought. God bless you

1 Corinthians 6:12

All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but I will not be brought under the power of any.

1 Corinthians 10:23

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

I don't think recovering alcoholics should test this out. Also, if you crash your car after drinking, your insurance could be cancelled; plus the cost of insurance goes up.

If you cause a death with a vehicle, complications and lawsuits ensue.

I worked at a DMV 23 yrs. The cost of a DWI is upwards of $9000, or more. The cost of an Uber ride is much less.

If other people see a Christian out drinking, it may influence their decision to accept Christ.

If your heart condemns you, think about that. If you or other people are not edified, then follow your conscience.

It's just as nice to meet at a coffee hangout to drink designer coffee & eat pie. Conversation is great and being sober leads to just as interesting conversations.

My friends and I would meet at a taco restaurant after church and get a huge platter of nachos with all kinds of stuff piled on and 6 or 7 people could graze on that. It was always edifying and fun! We prayed and talked about our experiences with Jesus that week. It beats being single and being home alone talking to the walls.

Sharpen your friendship skills and invite some other singles to meet up there at a specific time and place.

It's the "worlds voice" that says we have to do this with alcohol and music loud enough to cause nose bleeds.

Take a listen on YouTube to a song about not being part of the world system anymore. Type this=

Petra Visions / Not Of This World

The Lord bless you, Mishael

ROBIN,

Use upper case G for God, it shows honor. God bless you

RONBIN,

Alcohol is a spice to be used in drinks and food and also as a preservative. But like everything else, anything in excess can lead to abuse and death. It's the same with Adam and Eve. God command Adam to take care of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, but Adam went and did more, he eat the fruit. So use it according to its purpose and proportion and all will be well with you, your neighbors and most importantly, God. God bless you

CARLETON,



Yes, by God's strength and mercy, not my strength. God bless you

CINDY,

Yes Ms. Cindy, but still the moral of the story is, on judgement day when all sins have ran its course, God will take all His chosen ones, male and female, from this earth to the New Heavens and New Earth, and will destroy this earth and all in it with fire and brimstone. God bless you

Thank you Vince! Most important now that we not turn back from our commitment in Jesus Christ.

You're right. My bad. It was the sons-in-law who refused to leave. Said sons-in-law were betrothed to Lot's daughters and the girls were virgins when they left.

Thanks for the reply. One more question. Is drinking alcohol a sin?

Isaiah 59:1-3 Behold, the LORD'S hand is not shortened, that it cannot save; neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear:

2 But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.

3 For your hands are defiled with blood, and your fingers with iniquity; your lips have spoken lies, your tongue hath muttered perverseness.

Malachi 3:7 Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return?

James 4:7-10 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you.

8 Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded.

9 Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness.

10 Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up.

Isaiah 59:20 And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith the LORD.

To Cindy,

Also Cindy, Lot and his family were not willing participants to leave the city life. God's salvation plan does not includes willing participants, HE draws and leads just like HE draws and leads Lot and his family out of the city. God bless you

Hello Carleton.

Notice out of both cities only one man was saved, LOT? What that say to us? It says none were God fearing including Lot and Lot's family. It's God and His great mercy saved them. Same with us. No one deserves God's salvation, but because of His great LOVE and MERCY he choose to save many. He choose them before the world began. God bless you

Hi Cindy,

So I guess Lot's wife did not heed to God's word. And what older children are you referring to? It's Lot, his wife and the 2 girls. The girls were to be married but the 2 guys stayed behind. Lot and the girls must have had friends too. The wife looking back shows that her heart was more into the city's lifestyle more than the rest of the them. God bless you

what are the lessons to learn from the book of ruth

Yes, but you have to remember that their older children refused to go with them. She likely had friends there. And she may have had a good life. So she looked back on it. The thing is, they were ordered to flee and not look back, but she did and was turned into a pillar of salt. This is a lesson for us to heed God's word above all else.

Perhaps too by the sin of these two cities it was nearly impossible for God fearing men to co-exist.

Why do you think Lot's wife looked back? It's because the whole family was already influenced by the sins of the city. Also, where did the girls get the idea to sleep with their father? Sinful influences. God bless you

Because their sins reach up to heaven meaning they have done all they could do in homosexuality. God bless you

The populations were evil in all their ways--except for Lot, his wife, and their two daughters. God did not want that evil to influence His people, so He destroyed both cities with fire and brimstone.

Why did god destroy sodom and gomorrah