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The Bible is never wrong but its only that our revelation is limited.The man of Gen 1has the image of God and God is a spirit.He created 'him'[single]'male and female created he them'.One spirit man with both a feminini and male spirit.This was a creation ie prodcing from nothing.In Gen 2 God formed[not created] man,Adam and breathed the'he them of Gen 1.Thus Adam had masculine and feminine spirit hence the need Gen 2v21.Notice God neverr breathed into Eve and called her bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh but not spirit of my spirit

If you read Chapter 2 verse 4-6, it does a generation summary of the heavens and the earth in creation. I believe verses 7 on are giving more details of day 6 of creation.

what is Gods image....
God is in the Spirit...
Jesus Christ was made in the flesh but he is the only one that has the fulness of Gods spirit.
when we die our flesh is not going to heaven but our spirit is...so He gave us His image which is His Spirit and covered it with flesh...Adam was made from the ground and when none of the animals were found to be of use to him God made woman....after the first sin...Adam gave us death but Jesus Christ gave us Life. There is no three different Gods there is only ONE God and His name is Christ Jesus.

On the 6th day God filled the earth with man/woman. Then God created the Man and Woman that would bring the Christ. Let us make man in Our image, image is an exact seal or signant like on a kings ring or an exact duplicate. We look like we look from the first world age. Google search levendwater companion Bible appendixs and check 146 on the different terms for foundation so you can capture what Peter speaks of and they have appendixs on the different meanings of man. Ect ha adham, ha adham, and regular man adham in vs. 1:27 its so we can follow the blood line of Christ through the word and follow the sons of Cain the devils kids. They show up in Chro. 2:55 and start working as laborer in the church. You will see them in Ezra/ Jeremiah. There is a difference but all races were crreated and God said they are good. Its just a man may or maynot turn bad.

Bernice,

If we are to believe this creation account, why do they differ? Don’t you and I deserve the truth?

Genesis 1 says that BOTH Man and Woman were created simultaneously.

Genesis 2 says that Woman was "created" by God from Adams rib because "but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him".

All I am asking is why? Why is this a contradiction? We have 2 different accounts. If one is true then the other must be false. Since one must be false, then we have a issue with any claim of inerrancy.

Our Image, means the image of God, in the Holy Trinity: The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Our God is not a monotheistic God, but one that this in the Holy Trinity. That is why it is OUR God.

the word replenish there is replace.

The image is the same One in Gen. 14:18 Melchizedek who brought forth bread and wine to Abram, King of Salem or King of Peace. Mwlchizedek means King of the Righteous. Jesus said when you see me you have seen the Father. When God said let us, He didn't leave Himself out He said"Our" image. If Father send us here to live and die in the flesh I think you get the point. If you want to know who he was talking to at that time just go to Proverbs 8:31 when the creation of earth was and Job 38:7 will tell you all the souls of the children were pretty happy at the time of earth and the way the earth way created as it is spoken of in Isaiah 45:18. But then old devil who guarded the Mercy seat,Throne wanted to steal it and in the outline Rev. 12 the dragon had a political system set up and had stolen a third of God`s star/children and God got very mad and we read of that distruction in Jeremiah 4:22-27. We got stupid all of us. Maybe not as stupid as some where we learn the Parable of the tares in Matt. 13:36 thru 44 or sowhere satan sows his wicked seed the tares but maybe we didn't realize how good we had it and God turned off the lights and took us all back up. Father loves earth to, He married the land of Jerusalem and where ever God is Heaven is and He can be anywhere He wants. Then He seperated the good from the bad and we are being replenished. In the flesh. 2 Peter 3 can help in understanding the world that was submerged in water and this one reserved until the judgment of fire. Love God and wait for the true Christ and don't chase after the fake one that comes de-facto for at least 2 and half months sitting where he ought not. The Fire will burn evil but to them that love God and wait, a warm love. Now the D.N.A. of Adam was taken to make the woman Eve and she had two fraternal twins Cain and Able. You won't find Cains geneology in Adams because Cain belonged to the devil. But. We know that at least two of every flesh got on the boat for the 2nd flood of 5 months on the water because it was told to us and we see the kenites show up in 1 chron. 2:55. The LORD foretold us all things even when He cut the time down to 5 months from 7 years in Rev. 9 for the elect sake and that it would be at the end just like it was in Noahs time.

Doubting Thomas in verse 26 God states he made man in his own image God is Spirit John 4:24 in Gen2:19 the flesh is created and woman is taken from mans side this is explaining how man was formed of the dust of the earth

Thank you God for giving me another day to live for you and for everything that you are doin in my work place. THANK YOU JESUS for answering my prayers. Rev 12:11
And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

This passage (Gen.1:27) clearly states that the Most-High created man, both MALE and FEMALE, both sexes created at the same time. This is uniform across all translations. But then, in the very next chapter it seems Man needs a helpermateuddy, this according to God. So God took a rib from man and made woman (womb-man). Now the obvious question would be why did God have to create woman from mans rib? It says in chapter 1 that God made boys and girls in his likeness already, RIGHT?!!

Now, I don't think a contradiction of this magnitude somehow just slipped by the countless revisions, clarifications, translations etc. It's clear that a distinction exists between the male and female versions of Man in chapter 1 and Man & Woman, Husband & Wife in chapter 2.

Also, the first appearance of the names "Adam" and "Eve" aren't consistent across translations, some chapter 1, others chapter two, but their usage is peculiar regardless of translation.

I think these discrepancies indicate a period of time, an age or procession maybe, or possibly an entire cycle of man, evolving from the primitive to the impressive, to the over-inflated ego having, vile pollution emitting, truth impaired, soul-less, thieving drones that God takes pleasure in obliterating. Y uh-know... that kind of cycle.

It's a theory that is consistent with Genesis already, just adding a couple more periods that Topper didn't feel like going into, so he just left a couple hints. I think Adam may refer to a genetic distinction or new breed of man, hence the reason he had no Eve at first. Another theory is that there are two different entities (different in depth of consciousness, abilities, potential etc.) both occupying the Earth, both assigned fleshy vehicles that are the body of man, constructed in the likeness of the gods or in the image of God if you prefer.

What do you think? Or do you....

Jesus Christ be praised!
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man owns the land because god stated that man shall obey the laws of the land..laws of earth...the laws of man. The King or priest that made that law was touched by God. Land owership gives the most able the ablity to control the fait of the people. Thus commist hippys that want free land never get it. Once they do the law of nature takes control... the people starve and ourside people invade. Right now in america the country is invaded by floods of unwelcome peoples. food prices are such it takes 1 hour work to buy a loaf of bread of quality. about 27% of americans go hungry and tones of illegal turds are getting foodstamps at the rate of 68million illegals mostly from mexico. While the people starve and can not fine work the communist make themselves Kings of Beggers and the Alien while forgetting the people that build, work, fight and invent. Soon with in our life time there will be a natural law correct by an Alien illegal taking of states to form a new country called Aztexa, A Revolution, or a Taking of complete power by he communist. There will not be a return to American ways and American views. America is dead, only the communist and their ideals are left taugh in the public schools to their brain washed masses. Owning land is key to make any country or group of people thrive. When the government takes the land from the people that manages it, to give it too the poor or to give it too the rich by force, the country is over. Both of these thing have been happing since 1998 in america. Right now only reason it is still breathing is because China had loaned the US the money. Now it is over... the prices of food are going up by 100% every 3 months. It is that simple... Corn and Spears... like the Roman's said.. it is what makes the nation.. Roman from a republic the most powerful nation in the history of the world...to a Kingship.... fell to corruption like a stone. Sacked robbed raped by outside forces and forces from within.. until the northern tribes took over all of Rome that could not feed themselves... any child with a pointed weapon was banned...like America now any plastic gun will get you booted out of school for good. We are womanizing our boys... no war has been won since WW2. They are all police actions or long term withdrawls.

This is why you have land and land ownership. The bible clearly states that land ownership and property ownership is good in the eyes of God

Gen 1:26 "Let us make man in our image, our likeness"? "Our" & "Us" are the possesive and objective form of "We"! This means more than one! Why?

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Why is there another creation story in Gen 2:4-25. These accounts are not in the same order.

Honestly answer these questions. Why are there two different accounts of the same event? Why two accounts in the first place?

Even if you believe, that makes one of these accounts wrong. Therefore the Bible in not inerrant.

So, what else could be in error?

it says it all there was no big bang but God did it all and the KJV is the only bible I will use!! and I pray that you guys can keep this going it is a good thing to have you did a great job

Verse 3 and 5-light was created on the FIRST day verse 14 to 19 the cause of light stars and the sun etc was created on the FOURTH day.how can the cause of light be created on the 4th day later than the light which came in to existence on the first day? Iam realy confused

In this chapter a word "God saw it was good" how we know the heart of god whether he thinks good or not? God didn't said it was good.

My question is with the what had done when He had "blessed" them ... To bless is to kneel in adoration. Did God kneel before us ? And what is it that specifically could define Blessed in this context.

i,m sure our lord could not mention every conceivable allergies with food intake-if so the bible would be as long as Obahma care.

I Turely thank God For JESUS from the beginning.

Velli - I believe verse 5 refers to the alightening of our sun from Jerusalem perspective. Dividing the evening and the morning on Earth requires a geographical context. With conjecture and imagination, I can almost picture the Holy Trinity watching the first sunrise on Earth together discussing their plan of salvation.

Traditional science did not accept the idea of no beginning and no end, since this universe has cycles, and since is based on observable/measurable observations, etc.. If God is transcendental of this universe (or any other we may or may not be aware of) then God has no beginning or end. When considering the infinite, in all aspects (whether it be of this universe, multi-verses, other dimensions, etc.) one could say God is the existence of all and none since these terms are used to describe physical things, God cannot be defined as such.

Our comprehension is too limited to even consider we understand (what we define as) 'God', and to say otherwise is like asking a caveman what and how a computer works (as an analogy of understanding). Even sci-fi of today has a concept of 'advanced beings' visiting less advanced beings, and to a cave man, could be considered 'Gods', however this is a limited view that has its origins of what God may be. Ultimate awareness, consciousness, infinite in all aspects perhaps. How can God be classed as a single identity? Its a rhetorical question that needs no answer, but leading to a limited conception of a fundamental aspect that we cannot possibly comprehend. Thus faith is born. Faith could be considered a belief in something we cannot possibly understand or comprehend. Science seeks to understand the universe through detectable/replicated fact, and as such is a never ending search for knowledge. If God is infinite in all aspects, not just knowledge, then one could say that science is an attempt to understand God with a never-ending search of infinite truth by using a finite knowledge system.

What did I think ...

Line 16 and 17:
"And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also."

"And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,"

Clearly show that the writer did not know anything about the universe, the stars and the planets :-)

To start with "the greater light", our sun is a star itself ... a very small one even.

Also wondering why it took God a day to divide the waters like it is said in line 6 and 7. But (it feels like) it took him only a fraction of that time to create all other galaxies.

But true Genesis has been written in a time when people thought the earth was flat and the center of the universe.

Not sure where most of you are at with Particle Physics, but this is one of my passions. That is to see how God created all things at the small (quantum level).

Ok, let’s go…



1st ….remember one thing: E=MC^2 (Einstein’s famous equation). This simply means: Energy (can’t see or touch – but like the wind, you can feel) is equal to Mass x the Speed-of-light (photon) squared – in a vacuum (void of Matter – which induces resistance) . And Vice Versa.



So if you take any object with Mass, that is ANY object in the Universe (Uni: single Verse: sentence), accelerate it to the Speed-of-Light (186,242.0 Mile per 2nd (( wraps around earth 7.5x in one 2nd)) , it becomes pure energy. This is the reverse of what we see today. That is, we can’t see pure energy.



Furthermore, potentially, somewhere in the conversion of energy to mass, energy ‘might’ use the vehicle called the ‘Higgs Boson’ ( can’t see or touch) to convert pure energy into mass – as the scientific community is hoping, that is… their hoping so they have the starting point (Higgs Boson) in their ‘Standard-Model’ of Particle Physics.



Sadly, most quantum scientist believed energy popped into existence for no reason; we know otherwise!



So….take a deep breath….



Genesis 1:1



The supernatural eternal God who we can’t completely see describes thru a Narrative (Genesis), how He created the time based natural we can see.



Also, Genesis 1:1 is God’s Index or ‘Categories’ for natural science. Sadly the scientific community didn’t understand what Moses wrote 3500 years earlier until atheist Herbert Spencer, famous for coining the phrase: “Survival of the Fittest,” wrote the book “The Knowable.” Sadly, Spencer left tout the main Variable: God. Or as Aristotle said, “The Primum Movens (Latin for: Prime Mover or Unmoved Mover).



*** side note: in Aramaic Genesis 1:1 is written in 7 Words - completion.



In the Beginning (time)

… God (source & force or cause & effect)

… Created (action)

… the Heaven (space)

… and the Earth (matter)

I love Genesis 1 because God said it was "good," he was pleased with Earth!

I love the word here before the Fall of Man-kind when our CREATOR was making and forming life. I have pondered when He makes man in his image in Genesis ch 1 verses the man he breathed life into become a living soul Genesis ch 2

here is 1
26 ¶ And God said, Let vs make man in our Image, after our likenesse: and let them haue dominion ouer the fish of the sea, and ouer the foule of the aire, and ouer the cattell, and ouer all the earth, and ouer euery creeping thing that creepeth vpon the earth.

27 So God created man in his owne Image, in the Image of God created hee him; male and female created hee them.

28 And God blessed them, and God said vnto them, Be fruitfull, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it, and haue dominion ouer the fish of the sea, and ouer the foule of the aire, and ouer euery liuing thing that mooueth vpon the earth.

29 ¶ And God said, Behold, I haue giuen you euery herbe bearing seede, which is vpon the face of all the earth, and euery tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yeelding seed, to you it shall be for meat:

30 And to euery beast of the earth, and to euery foule of the aire, and to euery thing that creepeth vpon the earth, wherein there is life, I haue giuen euery greene herbe for meat: and it was so.

31 And God saw euery thing that hee had made: and behold, it was very good. And the euening and the morning were the sixth day.


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1 Thus the heauens and the earth were finished, and all the hoste of them.

2 And on the seuenth day God ended his worke, which hee had made: And he rested on the seuenth day from all his worke, which he had made.

3 And God blessed the seuenth day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his worke, which God created and made.

4 ¶ These are the generations of the heauens, & of the earth, when they were created; in the day that the LORD God made the earth, and the heauens,

HERE HE SAYS ALL THE GENERATIONS OF HEAVEN AND EARTH WERE CREATED...BUT LATER WHEN HE FORMS ADAM HE SAYS THERE WAS NOT A MAN TO TILL THE GROUND...WHO ARE ALL THE ONES HE MADE IN HIS IMAGE FIRST?

In Chapter 2 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, & breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a liuing soule.

21 And the LORD God caused a deepe sleepe to fall vpon Adam, and hee slept; and he tooke one of his ribs, and closed vp the flesh in stead thereof.

22 And the rib which the LORD God had taken from man, made hee a woman, & brought her vnto the man.

23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shalbe called woman, because shee was taken out of man.

24 Therefore shall a man leaue his father and his mother, and shall cleaue vnto his wife: and they shalbe one flesh.

25 And they were both naked, the man & his wife, and were not ashamed.

then came the fall after adam and eve...

my pondering is who is the hosts?
and later it says when God is explaining nephelim ...and dinah is defiled...he talks about the children of God being fair and the men of the earth going into them...I have not gotten a good anwer on all of this....any comments would be appreciated.

In the first verse is the beginning of substence,matter of all that is here. When you read of creation in Job 38 and on and in Proverbs 8:22 and on you see this sentence or verse come a live. You also notice in Job 38:7 the creation of all souls and also in Proverbs 8:31 the children of God are the stars or sons of God and we had a home. Heaven is where ever God is and He married Jerusalem and that place is His place He loves to call home. Then the cherub that guarded Gods mercy seat wanted to steal it and lucifer wanted to be the boss. He got a power system together and got a third of Gods children to follow him and these things are spoken of in Rev. 12 and Parable of the sower in Matthew 13:37 to 45 will help. Also if you google search Companion Bible Appendixs and read appendix 146 the foundation of the world it will help. Anyway we were all here and living on earth happy and then when the devil had the attempted overthrow there was a katabole castdown/overthrow and God shut the lights off spoken of in Jeremiah 4:22 to 29 all cities broken down and all men gone from earth. Not Noahs flood, no boat and no bird or family in the first flood. Water covered the earth in this first flood and the water didn't receed God said water gone. Then Father serperated the light from the darkness and I believe this is the good from the evil and sent His two thirds of children back and the wicked one sows his seed to earth. This time that you read is the 2nd earth age being re-started with erased minds and replenished in the flesh to see who you want to love,Our Father or a person can love the devil. We all have a choice.

I know that christians believes in one god. But what does this particular verse is saying: And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness:

Im confused as to if this is a description of the creation of earth or the universe....

Note that God moved! He was not everywhere, he was where he wanted to be.

Note called moved across the FACE of the waters. This implies a surface different from something else.

Note that Nothing is a Something and vice versa. Creation can from the Waters, which were a soup of potential energy, mass.

Note there was Light before the Sun.

Note that the word is Heaven and not Heavens. Note the Third Heaven that John speaks of. God created a new something called a different Heaven.

Note that a firmament was between the Waters. This may be the first reference to Mass or Waters could be the first reference to Mass.

Man seeks for the origin of all Mass and Energy. It can not be found. It is infinite. It is the Power of God.