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Donald,

En haut de la page, cliquez sur KJV Standard. Dans la case qui dit Rechercher dans la Bible, tapez simplement Apocalypse Chapitre 20 et le chapitre entier apparatra au lieu d'un seul verset. J'espre que cela vous aidera! Isa

Jesse

Bonjour. En haut de l'cran, vous verrez plus, cliquez dessus et vous verrez une zone o vous pourrez taper quel livre de la Bible vous voulez lire et le chapitre. Jouez avec l'cran pour vous familiariser avec la faon dont cela fonctionne. C'est facile et amusant.

Salut! J'aime visite ce site J'aime le travail beaucoup. J'ai probleme, pourquoi on ne peut pas faire un rchercher d'un Chapitre ou le verset que je veux avoir?

Par exemple si je veux aller dans Apocalypse Chapitre 20: 1 il faut que je passe tous les Chapitres.

Archaeology, carbon dating show us earth is older than 6000 years. Scripture too. Use the Search Box and type: Conies. When earth was hit with an asteroid, scientists say little Coney type creatures were underground and survived. It's interesting.

Astronomers today have seen LAKE BEDS on every planet. All are dry lake beds except earth; we have abundant fresh water for people and creatures.

Some scriptures say God turned the world upside down. You need study Reference Bibles, to track connecting references to other scriptures of a same or like, event.

What would kill all living creatures (like dinosaurs all at the same time?

Where did preHISTORIC people remains come from?

I mean no offense when I say: what is wrong with us starting at Genesis 1:1. Flip to Romans 1:18-25

For Genesis students, the first thing God created is TIME. It's well hidden, but original Hebrew said: In Beginning

Writers, inserted THE, so our English minds could follow the thought.

God said, LIGHT BE.

Rather than debate it, fight and confuse others with proper english_observe what God is saying and doing. He wants us to know.

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

FOUR THINGS scientists seek to explain:

TIME, FORCE, ACTION, MATTER

They've never proved TIME. Who told me? The Holy Spirit. I went through a lot of Hebrew books till I found one that said: in beginning. That's Word enough for me. If the Holy Spirit says it; it's truth. He was there.

I truly hope this will free us, to move along to all of the books of the Bible. We're are in the events Christ spoke of In Matthew 24 and Luke 21; 2 Peter 3; Revelation.

Time and this Bible is totally about JESUS CHRIST. It's his story. We will be judged according to how we've lifted Him up and told others His Story.

Good afternoon Daniel,

I think that we may never know if there was actually a gap of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Perhaps God does not want us to know. But again, maybe we will find something out scientifically to show evidence of such a gap.

When I get to heaven I will enjoy finding out the whole story. I am sure that learning this will make me praise God even more!

God bless you today! It is good to have you posting here.

Does the KJ Bible tell us or give clues as to how old the Earth is? Or maybe how long between Genesis 1:1 and the birth of Jesus Christ?

I tried researching the topic on the internetThe general consensus of Christianity I found was as follows:

1.God creates everything (including earth, the heavens & all living beings) in 6 days then rests on the 7th.(Genesis)

2. Jesus is sent from heaven to earth (approximately 4000 years later)& lives approximately 33 yrs. After resurrecting from the dead 3 days later, he ascends back up to heaven. This event (1-A.D.) marks the beginning of the calendar we currently use today.

Using the above references3

4000+33+2021= 6054 years since creation.

Does the Bible actually say anything to contradict the (30 minutes of) research I performedor possibly interpret the passing of time differently?

Chris, I probably worded what I was trying to say incorrectly. I'm not trying to say the law wasn't done away with, as I was actually talking about the Sabbath, which is included in the law, but was given centuries before the law was given to Moses. So doing away with the law has nothing to do with God giving the Sabbath to Adam and Eve and their children, who continue to this day. Christ keep the Sabbath until his death, and if you read the Ten Commandments you'll see you honor nine of them.. And I, like you, will stop for now as we both see things in our on way. We'll finish this discussion in heaven in the near future.

The word Trinity came through the Catholic religion. Triune means three.

God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit are called THE GODHEAD in scripture; in the approved KING JAMES BIBLE.

There are many, many scriptures showing the Godhead working together; and speaking to each other.

Paul clears it up in ROMANS 1:

18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who HOLD THE TRUTH in unrighteousness;

19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath SHOWED IT unto them.

20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD; so that they are without excuse

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

[The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.]

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

(there are many more)

I hope this helps you. Mishael

Genesis 1:26 "And God said, Let us make man in our image"

("us" is plural. God is plural.)

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

"there are three"

John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

"Word was God."

There is no denying this says and means the Word was God. Who is the Word? The rest of John 1 reveals who.

John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

Philippians 2:5-8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

"Christ Jesus...being in the form of God"

Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

John 20:28

"And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."

1 John 2:22-24

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father."

I'm sorry if you think that I've responded to you in an unacceptable way. This is a general discussion section, where comments of various types are presented, so one should be prepared to defend their beliefs, if they wish to do so. Personally, I love questions: they make me think, pray, search the Scriptures for the answer, as well as for the knowledge I can build up on.

Just to answer the one question you posed: "Just tell me the book, chapter and verse where God changed his mind and took away the day he gave his children." The Law, including the Sabbath, still holds true for Israel, from the first day it was given till now - therefore there can never be a verse to rescind that Law for THEM, i.e. they will be judged by the Law ( Romans 2:12). But for those of us not under the Law (both saved Jew & Gentile) & have found redemption in Christ Jesus, that Law that only brought condemnation & death to those under it ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-17) was entirely done away with (verses 11-13) & has no application or power to the one IN Christ. If the believer should say that I'm in Christ & also want to keep the Law to be right with God, he has fallen from grace ( Galatians 5:4).

I'll stop here - just wanted to answer your question. You may not care for the answer, & that's fine, but when we take in the whole Word of God & not a single verse, the proper understanding of a matter can be appreciated.

I would prefer your prayers than your direction of my mind. That I try to leave to God. I had to read Romans 12:9-21 after your comments. Everyone knows you can pic a verse or a sentence out of the bible to "prove" your point. And just "mindful" questions for occupying time; I wouldn't expect an answer either. The bible does tell us that God told us everything we needed to know. And since you seem not to believe the bible, were God said he "Blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it"; Gen 2:3. Then I'm not sure what you do believe. and yes, those like myself who do believe God's word that it as the truth. Now, instead of question to direct my mind, it's very simple. Just tell me the book, chapter and verse where God changed his mind and took away the day he gave his children. I'm sure you must be right, when he said he NEVER changes, he really couldn't have meant that, as Christ couldn't have meant he wouldn't even change the punctuation in the commandments. God forgive both of us for our attitudes here. I've already ask him for forgiveness, as it's easy to trip over our long robes.

Never noticed that. Guess nobody knows.

312 years ago there was Matthew Henry.

I am blessed to have today, read his commentary.

Thank you and may The Lord Bless You for making this possible.

Strange question. I at best will give my best guess; since I have never heard it discussed before. The thought that comes to mind is that eventually; that expanse above was likely to be used as a judgment in the time of Noah; when the waters above (i.e. canopy before rain fell on the earth and a mist covered the ground) as well as those above would consume the earth. Some believe in a "gap" theory in between Gen. 1:1 and 2 when the earth was "without form and void" and also apparently mentioned in Zechariah which was an earlier flood that destroyed Lucifer and other spirit beings kingdom which he had established after being cast out of heaven when he and his angels fell with him. Therefore; it would be a sort of intermediate period when the "die was cast" so to speak; and also likely when Satan used fallen angels to corrupt the offspring of Adam so that only Noah was "perfect in his generations"; hence once again bringing a worldwide flood. That flood would bring 8 survivors; the first one if spiritual beings merely destroyed their first attempt at "filling the city with violence through trade" as Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 seem to indicate was Lucifer's pastime.

That's my best guess. Agape. Rich P

Genesis 1:31,

Genesis 1:7, could it be that because HE hadn't made the "lights in the Firmament" yet? Genesis 1:15-18, that it doesn't mention seeing it until Genesis 1:31. Could it also be because the firmament wasn't completed yet, & possibly rather empty?

Psalms 19:1, Daniel 12:3,

Hopefully this is helpful

Genesis 1:28, other translations say "to fill" or "make full" the earth, replacing "replinish" , it would be interesting to do original text reasearch on the word.

Genesis 2:16,17,

If you look at Genesis 5:1-2, it can change the perspective, to who exactly the name Adam, is referring to. It's similar to referencing "man or mankind, man made" the difference seems to be clarified more when it says "the woman " Genesis 3, if we look however as Genesis 2, being in chronological order, then the woman arrives Genesis 2:18,19,21,22, after. However Genesis 3:1-3, shows she was very aware of the 'law' 2Corinthians 11:3, 1Timothy 2:13-15,

Genesis 2:23, He 1st named her ' woman ' interestingly Jacob also seems to do the same when GOD changed his name to Israel he continues to be referred to as Jacob, also. Genesis 32:28, Genesis 35:10, Genesis 46:2,5,

It doesn't say their children would be a punishment, Genesis 3:16, pregnancy & childbirth is difficult, painful, with distress. Woman also have hormons that magnify crying 'sorrow'. Explaining the curse also. Why, seems to be explained in Gen. 3. Revelation 12:2, John 16:21,

Genesis 3:7, fig leaves, will decompose & provide no warmth, It's a temporary, hasty, bad choice. Genesis 3:21, compassion, provision, love, mercy, knowledge, wisdom & protection, is why GOD made coats of skin for them. Remember they were no longer allowed in the protected environment of the special garden. Genesis 3:23-24, Ephesians 2:4,

"how, did GOD make skins from animals for them & why" It appears to be the 1st animal sacrifice to cover "mans sins".

Romans 5:14, John 3:15,16, 1Corinthians 15:22, 1Corinthians 15:45, 1Chronicles 1:1, Luke 3,

Proverbs 7, Romans 8, Hebrews 10, Matthew 13,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Can anyone explain to me, preferably referencing other Bible passages, why is it that in the second day God did not see it and it was good? Thank you!

Hi Jasmine, you asked several questions but I will just address your first question about God plural. It's plural because God is a triune being composed of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Beware of anyone pushing their own ideology and twisting scripture in order to accomplish their desired outcome. The Bible already says what it means and because it says this about God I choose to believe it.

Here are verses describing that. God bless.

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14

The Bible is easy to access and quick to navigate. Well done!

T. John McBride

Hello Mac. Btw, I'm not the same Chris who wrote to you much earlier; and also, I think you should have written in your first paragraph, "Saturday is the only day God blessed", in keeping with your belief.

Those, like yourself, who believe that the Sabbath is the "day God blessed & sanctified", need to also consider some other questions on this matter.

Questions such as: to whom was this Law (& indeed all Laws), given? What was the purpose of these Laws?

What is the meaning & requirements of the Sabbath? Was it any more than a rest day, a cessation of all work?

Is the Church that is formed under the New Covenant, obliged to come under those Laws (this Church which now comprised both saved Jews & Gentiles)?

When there was an instance in Acts 15:1-31, where the demand for Gentiles to be first circumcised & to keep the Law of Moses to be saved had to be dealt with, what was the response & apostolic decision? I'm sure you know the passage well. Did the apostles ever require the Gentiles, or any new believer, to come under the Mosaic Law?

If the Old Law only brought condemnation ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-17) & had to be done away with through Christ's Death, how is the Christian now able to know & fulfil the Laws of God?

If a believer now believes that he needs to keep the Laws & Sabbath in particular, can he condemn another who doesn't & who has understood the liberty Jesus gained for him to obey, to live, to worship God, as the Holy Spirit directs ( Romans 8:1-4; Galatians 5:1-4,18,25)?

Just a few questions to consider - not expecting answers, but hopefully to direct your mind to the full meaning of the full redemption we now have in Christ Jesus: redemption from sin's penalty & redemption from the Law's curse. We now obey many more Laws of God, more than what was given to the Jews to obey, & we do so from the continual ministry & power of God's Spirit.

Have to disagree with you about the Sunday law diving the people, as it changed the day God blessed and sanctified and gave to all creation. It causes God's children to worshiped him on the day of the pagan Sun god day of worship. It joined the Christians to the pagans. It only divided Christians from God. Sunday is the only day God blessed and sanctified, and for God to change it would make him a liar. As it would also make Christ a liar to except any day his God and ours chose for himself and us.

And any Christian should be worshiping God every day, but His chosen day of rest is the Sabbath; unless someone can show me in the bible were it was changed. (Mamatos5, there is a good book about Passover, the bible) And Christ becoming our Passover has nothing to do with a day of the week. Christ is our Passover, the blood over our "door" that gives us eternal life by forgiving our sins. And my comments about Sunday being the mark of the beast was only to make those reading to consider what might be, and to search their bibles for answers. No one knows what is it unless God has chosen them to be a last days prophet. All you can do is pray that the Holy Spirit will guide you to where God wants you in your knowledge of his word. And Friday sundown to Saturday sundown is the Sabbath, as explained by Genesis 1:5,8,13,19 and 23 "And the evening and the morning where the first day"; 12 hours of light, morning through evening ( John 11:9)

Hello John.

Genesis 1:1 says that in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Since the verses after this of the creation account do not give account of Him creating water or the land, we can assume that these were created when the earth was first formed int the beginning.

Hey Mac,

Deception is sly as a serpent and with a sleight of hand has us looking in the wrong direction and causing division, the Sunday law was just that. What Christ did, we in the past were strangers without God, Christ making of two in one body, and both have access by one Spirit unto the Father, Ephesians 2:10-18. Is it wrong to gather on Sunday? No. Can we call Sunday the Sabbath? No. Can we be justified by keeping the Sabbath? No.

The Sunday law was made to divide the Christians and the Jews even though many of the Jews were Christians. My understanding, the mark of the beast has nothing to do with Sunday and it will not come about until Satan is cast out of heaven and gives his power, seat, and authority to the beast, Revelation 12, 13.

Greek philosophy has influenced traditions and theories and I agree we work out our salvation with fear and trembling. Not sure of the meaning of Friday sundown till Saturday sundown? Jesus said in John 4:23-24, that we should do it every day not just one day of the week.

Many things divide us but only one thing makes us one, the simplicity that is in Christ, 2 Corinthians 11:3.

God bless,

RLW

Genesis 2:2

2And on the seventh day God ended his WORK which he had made and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

3And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from ALL HIS WORK which God CREATED AND MADE.

7And the LORD God FORMED man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

8And the Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the MAN whom he had formed.

16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

[Science (archaeology, biology, etc proves that the earth and the solar system are billions of years old. Dinosaurs lived, died, left oil behind.]

*God is Time. Genesis 1:1

Jesus is Light. Genesis 1:3, John 9:5

Holy Spirit is Action. Genesis 1:2

This is the Godhead. Romans 1:20

Astronomers say all the planets once had water because they see the empty lake beds. How is it that only 1 planet has abundant visible water? land and vegetation? What a mighty God we serve. Amen.

Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

God started Time, for man

Genesis 1:1

God SPOKE, Genesis 1:3

God MADE, Genesis 1:7

Romans 1:20

Sunday is a tradition of man, as you pointed out, not God. God chose the Sabbath and blessed it. And Christ said he wouldn't change a dot of the law, and he didn't. Man did. But Christians only give a couple of hours on the first day of the week, Sunday, to feel they did what they should. What if 321 AD started the mark of the beast. Then those who observe Sunday would be following Satan. Would Satan do something like this and leaves just a remnant to follow Christ. Like today Christians are worshiping Easter, which comes from a Pagan holiday where the rolling of eggs meant fertility and Ishtar with orgies were practice as a form of celebration. I find it very hard to keep my mind on God from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday, the actual time frame God setup. That's why we must work out our salvation with fear and trembling. and study God's work through the Holy Spirit. And personally I think we are going to see things getting worse and worse, quicker and quicker. If so, could Christ be coming. Come, Father, come.

To Mike

They did have the authority, as they did in fact eat. If they hadn't had the authority, they would have been physically unable to eat.

1 Corinthians 10:23 "All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not."

In Exodus 20, the ten commandments are spoken by God in an ordering voice: "Thou shalt not commit adultery.", for example. And yet people still do commit adultery, so they have the authority. Whether it is convenient or not, well, I don't have to spell that out for you.

The serpent deceived Eve in telling her that she wouldn't die despite God saying that they would:

"But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."

Sure, they wouldn't die immediately, which the serpent based on this his "half-lie": "Ye shall not surely die"; but they certainly did so eventually, as for God one day and a thousand years are one and the same.

Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."

1 Corinthians 15:45 "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit." I repeat: The first man Adam

Another observation, though this is but speculation:

There is only one tree of the knowledge of good and evil, so the fruit it bears might not have seeds as it doesn't multiply.

What is your address? I will send you one.

Thanks for the info. God help you!

Robert, what if is was both, physical and the light of Christ.

It's not as important to know the exact time, but knowing both were OF GOD.

On the first day God created the first light, some suggest its the light of Jesus. Am I right to believe this?