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Lord Jesus, Jocelynne is reaching out to You for help in believing Your Word in Scriptures and has many questions about how You brought Creation about so long ago. Bring her to information that will help explain some of what she reads in Scripture, perhaps in posts on this site or other sites. I trust that You will guide her searching and questioning to satisfying, truthful information. I ask this in your name today, Jesus. Amen.
There's a LINK out on the red page where you entered the rooms: BECOME A CHRISTIAN
I think it will be most helpful to you. Let us know if the comments were helpful?
If want to see a really cool version, with actual pages choose the 1611 version any Book & look at right hand side of page then tap on picture of the opened page Bible.
Hopefully this is helpful
Don't be discouraged, You are asking questions that many have asked and they're not stupid questions.
There is not much I can do to make you believe what is written using scripture if you don't believe in the scripture.
But I would like to share that the bible is actually 66 books with over 40 different authors written over a span of thousands of years yet these books Harmonize as a single msg.
This fact along with the many fulfilled prophecy should be enough to consider this book to be unique and not just another history book.
Most history books give an accurate account on what has already past. The bible gives accurate accounts on what's future, what's present, and what has already past.
One of the most recent is Israel restored back to the land in 1948.
Ezekiel 37:21 (KJV) And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:.
Read all of Ezekiel ch 7. This Prophecy is not completely fulfilled but it is continuing to unfold before our very eyes!!
Jocelynne pray to God to come into your life and open your eyes to his word and understanding.
Only he can do that,
And everyone who has wisdom and understanding git it from God, otherwise he/her don't have it!
You said you believe in God trust him, he want leave us without understanding.
I pray someone helps in this matter and would like to expand on this.
I will check on you in a day or so.
God bless you.
I hope all is well.
We haven't heard from you.
Glued gemstones all over him. You can Google lists of evil spirits names. It's gross.
God was not walking in the garden with invisible spirits.
Secondly, all the giants and evil spirits DROWNED after the flood.
Jesus told demons to get out of the crazy man and go into some pigs__which promptly DROWNED. They wander around looking for people who are drunk, drugged, immoral, etc. to get inside them. They don't mind if we read the Bible or go to church.
They just don't want you to belive it, and live it.
Eve stepped away from her husbands apathy. The serpent was all sparkly with jewels; Adam didn't flinch. She ate the fruit and Adam ate it because he loved Eve more than God. BAM! the 2 Trees were protected and the first HUMANS were driven out. Gods plan of redemption was already in force. A human would die willingly, to pay for the sins of all mankind. Gen. 3:15. When Abraham was willing to sacrifice his own son, for the sins of future Israel; the plan went forward to Luke 1. God became the Son of Man: HUMAN. Jesus would have dominion, power and authority. Satan would be stripped at the Cross. Jesus took satans keys to the prison of death, hell and the grave. He crushed satans neck with his foot.
Isaiah 14:24
You should just give up this Old Earth Cult and be born again from Jesus. Follow Him. He will give you the Holy Spirit forever: to be your Teacher and Revealer of scripture in the KJV Bible. Ask Him to wipe your hard drive (brain) and Help you to win souls to God. Wise he is, who wins souls to God. Holy Spirit just said to tell you read in Timothy.
Good night.
I was reading in Genesis, the Holy Spirit stops me on verse 1. He said the 4 things
TIME: in the beginning__God set TIME ticking
FORCE: The Godhead created. (Father, The Word ( John 1:1) and Holy Spirit
ACTION: and the Spirit of God MOVED over
MATTER: earth, waters, atoms
God purposed, Word spoke: Light Be, and there was Light. (Purpose Spoke Light)
Carbon dating proves earth is around 2-3 billion years. SATAN was around but he's a created being. He cannot create dinosaurs, cavemen or anything other than chaos.
My personal theory is: Romans 1:19-20. God put the artifacts in earth for us to find; oil for our cars, coal to be warm, fresh water for us and salted water for creatures.
We have to pray for scientists to see the Book of Romans. It's an occupation, as is archaeology, bio science, medicine. We are without excuse if we refuse to acknowledge The Godhead.
I caution you, not to teach your ideas to Gods baby Christians.
There are many, many more scriptures all over the Bible about creation; not just in Genesis.
I think we're all going to be in heaven watching God restore earth to BEFORE mankind messed it up. 2 Peter 3; Malachi 4:1
I've always thought some of the best stories are in chronicles, Kings, Samuel__Nehemiah. There's lots in Jeremiah. We just can't seem to like ALL parts of the Bible. Revelation 22 is key.
I don't want to show up in heaven, and meet Habakkuk and have to say: "sorry man, I never got to your book" :/
See, if you teach that man existed before Adam; that's called OLD EARTH THEORY. It's heresy.
Let's all remember that Malachi 3:16-18. God has a Book of Remembrance that writes down what we think and say about Him. How wonderful to bless His Holy Name!
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. [Jesus]
1 Corinthians 12:1-31 explains all the gifts, titled, administrations that God gives to the Church that Jesus has planted on earth Now.
Those that He calls, he anoints for the work. Luke 4:18. The Bible says the gifts and callings are without revocation. If we try to operate without the Holy Spirits anointing; we will not bear good fruit. Can even become apostate.
It's not something to treat carelessly. The Head of the Church is Jesus Christ. All parts of the Body are connected to Jesus.
God lives outside of time and inside of time.
Romans 1 says that if we dispute the evidence of the reality of God; we are without excuse.
I'm not debating this. It's for whomsoever Will believe God is. Can the clay say to the Potter, " what are you doing?!!
A good REFERENCE Study Bible (KJV)with a "center column reference cross scriptures" is very God for cross reading other relevant passages. It's the best.
Better figure things out soon. That Russian Submarine in Washington State a few days ago; may have surfaced off the coast of South Carolina tonight. Made a buoy bounce around. Cam footage looks like that Russian Nuclear Sub.
Somebody should tell the President.
Peace
Thanks for explaining.
I strongly disagree with your interpretation. But, I can only recommend that you research such a belief in Christian history and see if your view is truly from God or not.
I appreciate your exchange with me. Some topics and differences can be uncomfortable, but to me, it is helpful to talk out ideas such as this.
At this point, I will be exiting this thread. I wish you well, but I think your view is a gravely erroneous.
If your dad is not a Christian, or is unwilling to do James 5, please look into "bitter apricot seeds", there are testimonies from people who cured themselves with this; yet the medical industry suppresses it because they can't patent and make much money off natrual seeds. Vitamin B17 is a NATRUAL cyanide which kills cancer cells it comes in contact with, this natrual form is different than the SYNTHETIC cyanide which indeed is highly poisonous. B17 is in so many different foods including apple seeds, and there are even cancer free societies such as the Hunza people that consume apricot seeds widely - but they try to make vitamin B17 (which is different from synthetic cyanide) sound dangerous - we can trust the Lord Jesus Christ didn't create our apples, apricots, and other foods with anything that's going to hurt us - Jesus isn't poisoning our food! And He mentions the seeds when talking about what we are supposed to eat:
Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
Psalms 118:8 "It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man."
Genesis 2:15, was this a separated man? If GOD had already told mankind to subdue the entire earth? Would HE really take him then to dress & tend a special garden HE had made? Or is this symbolic of the Church._. Ezekiel 28:12-15, Ezekiel 31:8-9, Isaiah 58:11, Isaiah 61:11, Joel 2:3? Many times Jesus refers to the "vine dresser", the "stewards", seeds, etc. Luke 13:17, Luke 13:18-21, * John 15:1,5, & many times it's about unfaithfulness of that stewardship many times relating to the "Church" & those in charge. Luke 16:2, Ironic Jesus also being crucified by Garden, John 19:41, & where Jesus was betrayed, bound, taken captive, John 18:26,27, John 18:1-12,
Genesis 4:1-16, note Genesis 4:14,
Then you have an unreasonable fear of being killed by vengeance which was completely irrational if there was only Adam & Eve. There in that family -2 mourning the murdered child & 1 on the run. Then you have the outrageous idea that those same two parents would give a daughter to the murderer who already disregarded his brother's life to kill him. Gross, perverted imagination!! Genesis 4:16-17 then he built a city. Genesis 19:4-25, why isn't man killed mentioned? Then Seth's birth.
The importance of the lineage of Adam & Eve was it led to the Messiah Jesus CHRIST. Luke 3:22-38. Therefore when Eve is called the mother of all living CHRIST even addressed this as "let the dead bury the dead" pointing to spiritual death. Note it doesn't say Eve was of "life" it said mother of living._Genesis 3:20..Note also the day they would surely "die"! Genesis 2:17. Genesis 3:6-8, fear of (death?) eternal judgement? What happened? If it wasn't a spiritual death? Genesis 3:10, loss of fellowship, trust, intimacy even in marriage that's sometimes referred to "death, of the marriage"
Genesis 6:1-6, Gen 6:6, "earth" not "garden"
If your mom is not a Christian, or is unwilling to do James 5, please look into "bitter apricot seeds", there are testimonies from people who cured themselves with this; yet the medical industry suppresses it because they can't patent and make much money off natrual seeds. Vitamin B17 is a NATRUAL cyanide which kills cancer cells it comes in contact with, this natrual form is different than the SYNTHETIC cyanide which indeed is highly poisonous. B17 is in so many different foods including apple seeds, and there are even cancer free societies such as the Hunza people that consume apricot seeds widely - but they try to make vitamin B17 (which is different from synthetic cyanide) sound dangerous - we can trust the Lord Jesus Christ didn't create our apples, apricots, and other foods with anything that's going to hurt us - Jesus isn't poisoning our food! And He mentions the seeds when talking about what we are supposed to eat:
Genesis 1:29 "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
Psalms 118:8 "It is better to trust in the LORD than to put confidence in man."
Yes we can disagree on this. But we both cannot be correct.
I do not think that you have shown the validity of your view from Scripture and most Christians across time would disagree with you.
But we can still be peaceable about this.
I was wondering if you could explain how you came to this view. Did you read it somewhere outside of Scripture or hear it preached by someone (who) or is it taught in your church affiliation (which is)
Just wish to know the sources from which you received this view.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but THE SPIRIT which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teaches; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
14 But the natural man receives not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
John 3, Jesus said we must be born again, to receive the HOLY SPIRIT,
living on the inside of us.
[you must speak these things openly, to receive them, openly]
Be brave. Mishael
The whole planet is in denial that "This End of the World"__Jesus Stuff__God is our Father__the World is going to burn up. etc. 2 Peter 3
You're afraid the Bible, which has survived 6000 years of opposition, Jesus's Crucifixion and Resurrection___might be Truth.
See, Isaiah 14 teaches that Lucifer (SATAN) is real. He hates God, Jesus, the Bible, Christians, and he KNOWS his end will be in the Lake of Fire. He wants TO HURT as many people he can who might possibly read a Bible and ask JESUS to come live in their hearts.
Satan sends out his lying spirits to shake your tiny faith and__take you to hell with him.
They did that to me. 20+years. I was suicidal. God reached down into the mess of my life and pulled me up; and showed me his Son. It took 2 years to learn how to get all those evil spirits out of my ears. If you choose Jesus and BELIEVE his story in the Bible: all those lying voices will just GO away.
ASK the Lord to help you. Tell Him what you need. I needed those things to stop telling me death is a fluffy blanket.
Read 1-2-3 John in the back of the Bible (in front of Revelation). Jesus is Your Advocate. Like a defense attorney. Whatever lies, doubts, confusion, chaos, rail to Jesus about you__Jesus will dismiss those charges for you. You will be free. Just like me. You will become strong inside.
These scriptures are for you too:
Song of Solomon chapter 2:9, 6:3, 7:10
He will never leave you.
Peace
The reference about Jacob and Esau are a refer nice to God's omniscience, that God knew before creation all that would ever happen, all that anyone would think, say, and do.
It is it talking about Jacob and Esau existing prior to conception.
In speaking by about Jeremiah, Gid is speaks my about what He had pre-ordained not about Jeremiah existing prior to conception.
Again, since these verses do not prove a spiritual pre-existence of humans, I am open for you to supply Scripture that clearly teaches this.
Peace
and of breath life I.E. lungs breathing air to support oxygenation in blood.