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  • Carolyn Winstead Smith on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Was Adam and Eve the only people God created?
  • Rick - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Chris I understand the translations and the changes but I'll stick with scripture reason being it makes them

    sound less then what they are evil see the connection devil evil and also again another little change of original text. Another point The kingpin is known as The Devil amongst other titles and all messengers operating under Him are

    devils. I seem to remember what happened when one person said thou shalt not surely die and another said thou

    shalt surely die. Just making a point
  • Cowboy - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Thomas

    Yes, there were giants in the earth or on the earth. These giants were from the sons of God, these sons of God were angels. When God created Adam God made Adam in his image. So, Adam was one of the sons of God. Genesis 6: 2 tells us that the sons of God took them wives of all which they chose. The Angels have a freewill just as you do, they can choose to serve God are not, just as humans can choose to serve God are not, and if a human or angel refuses to serve God the angel is sent to the bottomless pit chained, and the human that refuses to serve God when he dies is sent to hell.

    Genesis 6: 1- 6

    1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

    2That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

    3And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

    4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

    5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.

    6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

    God Bless

    stay prayed up and ready to go up

    cowboy
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Brother Rick, using either 'devils' or 'demons' is quite acceptable as the meaning is the same. It's just that the older translations (KJV, Tyndale Bible, Geneva Bible, etc.) use 'devils', whereas the newer translations use 'demons'. Maybe this was done to allay any misunderstanding between the devil himself & his 'demons', as some might think of 'devils' as many of the same hierarchy & control as Satan. Personally, I wouldn't judge anyone for choosing 'demon' to correctly describe those evil spirits that followed Satan & do his works on the Earth.
  • There is POWER IN JESUS NAME and His BLOOD. - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I guess I say both. Probably because of books I read in the past. You're right. The word isn't in the Bible. When I pray, I say evil spirit.

    One told Jesus it's name was Legion, "because we are many."

    Acts 19:15

    And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

    I think most important is to not respond in any way other than HOW Jesus demonstrates (or Paul) in the scriptures. In my experience, they respect the name of Jesus and his shed blood. I don't like talking about it.

    I was newborn Christian and I had to fight back. They will not cross the blood of Jesus. I was accused for having practiced astrology. I didn't have Bible knowledge yet. I had the Holy Spirit tell me to plead the Blood.
  • Rick - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Mishael I'm don't understand something everybody keeps saying the scripture says but when it comes

    to evil spirits it says devils not demons, then i'm gonna hear its all the same if that's true why doesn't it say demons?
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    On the red link page, the Apocrypha; if you type giants into the search box; there's a lot more info on giants.

    I don't study that. Mostly, because angels are created by God. The ones that followed satan when he was thrown out of heaven became fallen/evil like Satan (who was created too).

    Scripture teaches when we are caught up to heaven we'll be as the angels: not given in marriage (or dating). Anatomically speaking I don't know what that means. I don't know what the demons are like. Unless they borrow a human body (from the unsaved peoples), they are invisible. Ephesians 6.

    After Noah's Ark, demons would have spirit bodies. Personally, I was attacked by a spirit in which a person whom I quoted scripture to for being involved in spiritism; allowed entry by a demon. It almost broke my neck. I pled the Blood of Jesus and angels took "it" off me and fought it outside in the yard. I heard it.

    This can't happen to a born again Christian.

    It is wisdom to not delve into the supernatural because our "faith" in the credence of it, attracts evil spirits. Better that our faith is STRONG in Jesus's Authority over evil spirits. Don't walk a tightrope unless you are prepared to fall.

    Witches and satanic priests have relations with demons; only invisible beings cannot have mortal body parts.

    Be very careful over your curiosity about forbidden dabbling. Leave this alone. You're being targeted.
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Thomas,

    That was the interpretation generally held by the church in its early history, but others say that the sons of God were the men of the line of Seth and the daughter's of men were from the line of Cain or even, perhaps, of other human populations if God create mankind in Genesis 1 and set apart Adam in the garden for the line that survives the flood and leads to Jesus, our Messiah. I don't know if we can really know for sure. The Book of Enoch says that it was fallen angels that interbred with human women.

    I do not know if scientific discovery will bring anything to this discussion. Should skeletal remains of people from that time ever be found and DNA could be extracted and analyzed, and compared to others from that age, then we may get some answers.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Thomas,

    Yes, I here that these medications are very effective. I hope I would be able to get these meds prescribed if I do get covid. I hate that the use of these have been politicized and also discouraged by big pharma for the sake of the dollar. So many people could have been helped by these meds. I am glad that you recovered well from covid and now have natural immunity. That is always a good outcome.

    God's blessings to you always.
  • Thomas - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Were giants procreated from the sons of GOD (Angels) and daughters of men's sexual union?
  • Thomas - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I treated and cured my covid with ivermectin-- ivermectin has a 97% successful efficacy rate; I would never take the jab (Big Media/Big Pharma covers up vaccine side effects)
  • Rick - In Reply on Genesis 6 - 3 years ago
    Tony Spirit is not passed at birth, when any human is born he is body and soul, the only exception to this that

    I'm aware of is John the baptist, even Jesus Christ was not born with Spirit, John 1:32. When an individual gets

    born again he receives that which he didn't have before holy spirit eternal life Gods Gift. Now some believe the

    spirit and soul are the same.

    Spirit life is eternal where as when you take your last breath that's the end of sou life , Genesis 2:7 God formed man, gave him shape then breathed into his nostrils breath of life and he became a living Soul

    it is believed by some since God is Spirit that is what he breathed in man. In Genesis 1:27 God created man in His own

    Image and In the Gospel of John 4:24 Jesus Christ said God Is Spirit. So man in the beginning was body soul and spirit

    when man sinned in Genesis He lost his Most important part His Spiritual connection with God which was bought back by Jesus Christ.
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Wayne,

    It looks like T. Levis already shared scriptures about it.

    The concept of 3 in 1 is challenging as we as humans lack examples in our world that is similar to that. I believe we have a hard time comprehending anything not in our earthly experience. But we trust what God's word says. Since it says "these three are one" in 1 John 5:7-8 we trust what it says. Some people nitpick and question "but HOW 'one' are they?" and some argue that they are more separate than one, or vice versa. I think as soon as people start reinterpreting the Bible to fit what they want to believe, they are being deceived and are deceiving others. It takes faith and trust to believe the Bible, so in 1 John 1:1 where it says the "Word was God" there is no question what that means, because in verse 14 it says the Word was Jesus. Jesus = God. But same with Father = God, and Holy Spirit = God. 3 are one. God the Father is most commonly referred to as 'God' and I believe this is part of the source of confusion, as well as Jesus is called 'Lord' and Lord also meaning God. Sometimes God is plural, like 'we' in Genesis 1:26.

    To what extent are they 'one' and to what extent are they 'three'- we don't know that. It could be like 3 personalities of 1, or it could be like an orange where you have the skin, pulp, and seeds, but each is still an orange. I don't know the right analogy, but I trust what God says in the Bible to be true and do not trust humans who try to twist it into something else.

    God bless...
  • GiGi again - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Mishael,

    Yes, God has provided all that we need for us in this life and for the life to come!

    Before the 1950's scientists theorized that the universe always existed, but in the 50's and 60's scientific thought changed to state that that the universe began wit a big bang from an outside cause. This aligns with Scripture in that God is the external, eternal cause of the creation of the universe. If he started the universe with a huge of energy (power) that created such intense heat that the new matter He created was vapor, then it is likely it would have taken billions of years for these particles to cool and for gravity to pull matter into solid masses of planets, stars, etc. We really do not know how exactly God had things form in our universe after he created matter, energy, and natural forces and laws. The cooled matter that formed the earth and the water that covered it in Genesis 1:2 may be a result of these processes.

    Believers and the church fought against Pythagorus when he proposed that the earth was round, not flat. They also fought against Copernicus when he proposed that the earth rotated on its axis, instead of the heavens rotating around the earth. They fought against Galileo when he proposed that the earth orbited the sun instead of the sun orbiting the earth.

    It will be interesting to see what God allows science to discover before the end of this age. If God is guiding history, he is also guiding science. This does not mean tat science is always correct, but that God can enable scientist to learn more about how He caused things to happen. God did not write everything down in the Bible. This does not mean that we should not pursue ways to discover scientific information. God has put the ability and the curiosity to investigate this things into mankind. This is how we progressed to the present day in civilization and scientific knowledge.

    There will still remain a vast amount of knowledge we will never know. But God will allow us to discover some of it
  • Rick - 3 years ago
    Hi Gigi Here's one for you the word says Adam and Eve were the first humans but it also says in Genesis

    1:28 for Adam and Eve to multiply and replenish the earth which means there was something there before them.

    That's is not speculation that is written and I believe what ever they were originally got messed up between genesis 1:1

    and 1:2. Its says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth then verse two and the earth was without

    form and void, the puzzle here is the word was because some places this is in Italics which means it was added and other places regular print. Examples italics verse 4,10,12,18,21 regular print 3,7,9,11,15, since God is light and In Him is

    no darkness at all and Our God is a God of perfect order verse two would make more sense if it said became that way

    because that where satan was throne out of heaven and corrupted Gods Creation and wreaked havoc. Just stuff I think about when I work scripture. Any other input insight appreciated.
  • Going Forward with God__Dont Look Back - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I can't share details because it would feel like gossiping. I can only say he shares a church with a Unity Church. On YouTube people remember the past (live in it) and miss those days and the music. Carlton is on YouTube. All the videos of him with black hair are old.

    He played 'church' when he was little, with siblings and friends. He was a very anointed Pastor.

    However it happened, he began teaching there was no hell. He lost his church. Oral Roberts rebuked him and other ministers. This happened I think in the 90's. I moved to Austin in 89.

    I still have a box of his sermons from before he changed. Such an anointing! A lot of people followed him. He's living in past glory; so are they.

    He needs people of faith to keep praying for him. I believe in miracles.

    The Bible says in Revelation 22:18-21

    We are forbidden to add, subtract or change scripture. No options.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Genesis 4:17 left without name

    Here is scripture & thought on the matter for deeper questions that are taught on this issue.

    Genesis 1:26-28, Genesis 2:7,8,15,16,18,21,22,23,24, notice in Genesis 1:27-28, says male & female & have dominion over & subdue over the sea, air, and living thing that moveth on the earth. Then HE put 'the man" in garden. Was this a certain man & his wife seperated in a special garden? Notice in Genesis 1:29 all fruit from every tree was good for meat. However in the Garden that HE planted Genesis Genesis 2:8-9, he put the man he had formed & breathed life into him & he became a living soul. Genesis 2:7,

    Genesis 4:15 presence of other people,

    Hebrews 13:8, John 1:1-5, Leviticus 18, establishes GOD's law, James 1:13-16,

    Luke 1:69, Psalms 89:24-27, Titus 2:11-12, Hebrews 5,

    Genesis 4:25,26, 1 Corinthians 15:20-23, one lineage from Adam to Seth to Jesus recorded lineage of redemption Matthew, we are adopted heirs through Christ, Ephesians 1:5

    Many agree this lineage was significant to show fall of mankind & redemption

    John 21:25

    Hopefully this is helpful to your question.

    ,
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Titus 3 - 3 years ago
    We reflect the image of GOD so we go about with unveiled faces. 2 Corinthians 3:13-14,16,17,18, Romans 8:1-8,10-15, all of Romans 8, Luke 9:23-26, Matthew 16:25-27,

    If you're in USA the Declaration of Independence of The United States of America, The Constitution of The U.S. & every State Constitution including Hawaii, : We The People of the U.S. to be the governing authority. Please read each Preamble!. Furthermore it not only affirms We The People being the Governing authority but that we have a Duty to stand against tyranny & long chain of abuses. The free World depends on it, & for us being given the authority to lead.

    The orgin of a'shot' is protecting our own lives. Matthew 16:25-27, Luke 9:23-26,

    There are documents & whistle blowers exposing aborted child organs used & material that fights against the immune system of man, made by GOD ALMIGHTY in HIS image. Genesis 1:27,

    Colossians 1:13-16 through the blood, (through the blood)

    Psalms 106:36-39
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Thanks, Mishael,

    I am not deterred at all. I just wish to be sensitive to wat the Holy Spirit whispers in my heart and be obedient.

    Thanks for your encouragement.
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Thank you Spencer. I am sure that there may be someone out there on this forum that need that apology, or else I would not have been prompted to do so. I am glad some are receiving something profitable from my posts as I do from so many others on this forum.
  • Grace - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Do you think the pastor will ever come back to the Lord with his whole heart? Do you believe that's even possible?
  • Anything that is not like God__is harmful - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Beloved child,

    When this happens to me, I know the Shepherd is calling me to Psalm 23.

    It's important to remember Job 1: satan sneaks around to find what we fear, or if we have all our armor on? There is now no condemnation.

    Time to go to the pasture. You might just sit outside and look at the clouds in the sky like me, and whisper "even so, Come Lord Jesus.

    Lord Jesus bless me with a fresh anointing as written in Luke 4:18.

    I went to this church in Tulsa for 3 years and was sent home to care for my Dad until he died. Me and friend sat behind Carman every Sunday. :D

    The Pastor in that video became Apostate. I was heartbroken. A year ago, Carman died. I refuse to stop praying for Carlton Pearson. The Holy Spirit showed me how it happened. I've never spoken of it.

    Rest a little. Watch some Carman songs on youtube: I got the joy (pick the one showing the choir). Church was fun and I learned lots! Watch "resurrection rap" and some of his hymn songs.

    M
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Pick the video with the choir picture. It was a great church till The Pastor turned apostate; and still is.
  • Helpin out brothers and sisters - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I will help you in any way I can. I'm not a scholar. I'm only blood bought, Spirit filled, no pew jumping but shouting with joy maybe screaming lol

    Evangelizing child of God.

    Go on YouTube and search a song called, I GOT THE JOY, by Carman. I went to that church.

    Now get happy and be oily because offenses will come. Let it run off ya.

    Mishael
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Sister GiGi.

    No need of an apology,

    We all can use a refreshing course.

    I does helps.

    God bless.
  • Free - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 3 years ago
    Dear "J Parker" again sorry but ill forget

    Genesis 1:22

    And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

    This was before the human.

    Be blessed in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Adam.

    I just felt urged to go back and write that post. So, I want to be obedient. It wasn't about anything anyone said to me.

    God knows the why of it.
  • Adam - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Gigi, your comments about what you're reading are appreciated. I enjoy reading others' perspectives on the Bible. No need to apologize for sharing your opinion. Sometimes its a tough crowd here, but overall I find it uplifting and educational. God bless...
  • GiGi on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I must apologize to readers. When I began reading Genesis about one month ago, I was new to this site and such a forum as this. So, after reading the chapters, I would read what has been said in discussion, and then write what I get out of the chapter. I am not really writing to anyone but myself. It helps me remember and process information. I do hope that some may bring some answers to some of my "wonderings" as I often post questions that come to mind. I also hope that some will find something helpful in what I post.

    I know that I write at length. That is how my brain works to process thoughts. So, I apologize if some are irritated with this style. I don't mean to offend anyone.

    I started a journal on Genesis last week, so I have gone back to my posts to re read what I have written to jog my memory. These posts are helping me in this review. I am not very tech savvy, so this is the best way I know how to do this. So, please bear with me as I take this trip into Genesis. Ignore me if you wish. I certainly don't mind if anyone does that.

    Just thought to go back to Genesis 1 and add this for anyone who may start there and wonder, "Who is this GiGi"?

    I am just and old believer who is looking to be refreshed by God's Word. I ad no idea this site had a discussion forum when I first searched for it. The discussion forum was not why I came here, but God knows what I need and led me here.
  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    J Parker Don't over think this Adam and Eve were the first known humans Body soul and spirit in Genesis 1:28 God said be fruitful and multiply and replenish so like I said before if they are going to repopulate the earth there had to be

    a life form before those two but like I said no one knows what that was because God doesn't say. There are things in the word that we cannot know why because we are not told.



    Here's another example no one knows when Christ will return for His body the church why because that is in Gods Hands period.


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