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  • Rick - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Tim Other than the angels being present, what's interesting to note is Genesis 1:27 After creating man and

    woman in His image the next verse says for them to replenish the earth so so didn't write the book but there had

    to be something there before. Don't know what is was because it doesn't say, and I'm not a guesser when it comes to scripture.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Messaye. This verse in Luke 21:19 can be read as follows: 'by your patient waiting & endurance, your lives will be kept safe'. Israel had been through several wars & skirmishes since Jesus spoke those words, the first of which was in AD 70 when Titus of the Roman army ransacked Jerusalem.

    But Jesus was speaking to His disciples (both to the twelve & the larger following - Luke 20:45), of the much longer term when there will be much persecution & false arrests of those who followed Christ. Even though Jews have endured much suffering & death over the ages, Jesus promises to keep His followers then & those now who have repented & turned to Him in faith, in care & safety, that with patience & waiting they endure these hardships till He come.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Sister GiGi. I understand that you wisely don't wish to pursue with this thread, but I offer the following for understanding what is seen in the verses Earl has presented.

    Psalm 82:6, the verse which Jesus quotes to the Jewish leaders, refers to "gods" as 'Elohim'. This is a word that has several meanings, as it applies to both the true God & to other applications of that word. Elohim is a generic word, used for God ( Genesis 1:1); for pagan gods ( Genesis 31:30, Exodus 12:12); for angels ( Psalm 8:5, cf Hebrews 2:7); for men ( Psalm 82:6); for judges ( Exodus 21:6).

    So when we come to John 10:34-36, Jesus is being accused of blasphemy, "thou, being a man, makest thyself God", since Jesus had said to them, "I and my Father are one" & in previous verses. Jesus then goes on to explain that the 'Elohim' of Psalm 82:6, which corresponds to the 'theos' of John 10:34, should actually not be a problem to them as we're all 'gods' in this general meaning of the word, 'Elohim' - we are NOT part of the Deity & NEVER will be, nor of the angelic realm, but certainly of men, rulers & judges (as those so appointed).

    The Lord then continues His discourse with the Jews, questioning them, 'that if He is sanctified & sent by God, doing the Works of God, why shouldn't His claim to be the Son of God bother them?' Since we all come under the general word 'theos', if One coming, does the Works of God & brings the Word of God, should He not be rightfully (& more correctly) be called the Son of God? Is Jesus side-stepping the revelation of His actual position as God in the flesh? I see Jesus answering the Jews according to the charge they were laying against Him, that His claim 'making Himself God', was no different to any other claim to it by others. But if their eyes would one day be opened, they would realize that before them was no generic 'Elohim/Theos', but Theos Himself. They were far from reaching that position of understanding, not even understanding Psalm 82:6 & meaning of Elohim.
  • Messaye on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Luke 21:19

    by your patience possess your soul ?
  • Rick - In Reply on John 21 - 3 years ago
    Hi Adam This is I read biblically concerning heaven carefully starting Genesis 1:6-8 verse 6 and God said let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters and let it divide the waters from the waters and let the dry land appear.

    Verse 7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the

    waters which were above the firmament and it was so.

    Verse 8 And God called the firmament heaven and the evening and morning were the second day.

    Verse 9 And God said Let the waters under the firmament be gathered into one place and let the dry land appear. So biblically when we jump in the air we are in heaven[ this is translated shamayim which means things heaved up or lifted up things] when an air plane flies biblically its in heaven. Then you have the heavenlies Ephesians 1:3 where it

    states we have been blessed with spiritual blessings in Heavenly places in Christ. Also Ephesians 1:20 Christ is seating in the heavenlies on Gods right hand.

    An interesting point is the most high powered telescopes looking into the heavens have found massive balls of water larger than earth floating as far out as they can see which is whet Genesis says. Gods word doesn't miss a beat . Hell , gehenna and sheol is another discussion.
  • David - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Mishael I believe whatever life form was on earth before God formed Adam and eve was between Genesis 1:1 and 1:3 that is why in genesis 1:28 to replenish the earth, whatever happened between genesis 1:2 had to be catastrophic

    and absolutely destructive in purpose. I don't believe it was of God.
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    You can go the the NIV bible online and you can click on Parallel. Then you can select two versions and both do not need to be the NIV version. that may help you.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    StanJett;

    Glad that you are beginning in the beginning! Genesis. I read this in my commentary in my Bible. Time and matter had no existence before the beginning in Genesis 1:1.

    My thoughts:(No atoms, no molecules, no energy, no natural light, none of anything of the physical universe.)

    In eternity past, before creation of the physical universe, God existed forever, alive in and of Himself, with no outer a cause to bring Him into existence (No Force). The Word does not say whether God created all of the heavenly spiritual beings (angels, seraphim, cherubim) prior to creating the material universe or after. But before He created these spiritual beings and the physical universe, He existed eternally as a Triune God in perfect communion within Himself, (Father, Son, & Holy Spirit) He was complete and in need of mothing. Nothing could be added to Him to make Him more perfect or taken from Him to reduce His perfection and this perfection is the same for all eternity.

    When God chose to create, He spoke physical universe into existence, thus creating matter and time, since physical laws and processes began at this time. His speaking the universe into existence is creating something from nothing. (ex nihilo)

    Whether He spoke the spiritual hosts of heaven into existence, or did something similar to making mankind, but not using physical matter is not known.

    I hope this helps you. You could also google something like: creation of the universe ex nihilo and perhaps get a better explanation.

    Thanks for asking. Such queries makes others of us have to consider how we would explain what we know. That is a good process for us to practice.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I am prayerful about it.
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Stanjett The reason it says to create because spoke it into being, only God can create to create is to bring some into existence which did not exist before. The explanation painting are made by things that exist canvas, paper dyes paints

    and so on. Man has said he creates life impossible he starts with egg and sperm in artificial environment that's not creating, the egg and sperm already existed.
  • Stanjett on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Link Wow, First verse in the bible and I don't know what it means and can't under stand it. If it means He make everything, why not say He made everything. I could understand that.
  • Sg - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Amen. Ephesians 5 Colossians 3

    God bless you.
  • Sg - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Pray before you take another vaccine shot.

    Keep believing in the Lord. God bless you and your family.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    1 Timothy 4:3-5 In the Last Days just before Jesus Returns to Earth; the "world will".

    3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

    4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:

    5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

    This is another sure sign that Jesus is soon to appear.
  • The World in the Last Days - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    2 Peter 3

    3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,

    4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

    Romans Chapter 1

    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

    Philippians 3:2

    Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.

    1 Timothy 6

    3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

    4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

    1 Timothy 1:9-10

    1 John 1:6

    1 Timothy 2:2-6

    2 Peter 3:10
  • STAN JETT - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    To begin with we were all vegatains. Or the people alive at that time. But, if you read on you will find where we are allowed to eat meat.
  • Rick - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi Allen Not trying to change your mind but I'm curious what don't you believe and why?
  • David - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Lynda Simple answer is no
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Dear Allen, thanks for sharing. If I am understanding you correctly, at this time, you do not believe the Bible stories as written in Scripture? If this is your belief now, I will pray for God to help to believe what is really true about God, our world and history as recorded in Scripture. You can ask God for the same thing, that He will help you to know and believe only what is true. It is o.k. to have doubts. We should admit our doubts to God and to believers.

    If I have misunderstood what you we trying to say, please let me know.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi, you may had success looking for a site that has parallel translations. Maybe type in "parallell bible - RSV
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Same for me, I want to know the love of Christ more and more and share it with others always.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I am 65 and have a handful of risk factors,. Bummer. Was healthy until I turned 60! But I die a little moment by moment and probably accelerates as we get into our senior years. I am in God's hands and I am not afraid. I have been vaccinated, as has my husband and family members. None have had any adverse reaction. Not sure what may happen down the road, but then again, who does? There are so many things people can die from. I just am doing what i can to not get covid because of my asthma. It wouldn't be a cakewalk for me, most likely. I prayed to get direction from God and am peace with my decision. I continue to pray that God will eradicate this virus. But, then, will there be another, and another? God knows. We are to walk in faith that if we live or die, we are with the Lord. He will never leave us or forsake us, and His love for us never fails.

    Be blessed this evening.
  • Sg on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Has anyone taken vaccine and recommended it.
  • Sg on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I want to be loving.
  • Joel kihohia on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Bible

    Is good I like it
  • English Sacha - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    So , you want the Bible to name each individual plant ,animal and geographical feature of the planet ? God made every thing , for me that is very simple .
  • Stanley Turner on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    The point of Genesis is that God created everything. But then the Bible tries to explain what everything is, which is challenging. Day and night, what about dawn and dusk? Land and water, what about coral reefs? And the exceptions are many. So what? My question is "should Christians look to the fact that God created everything, or should we nitpick the Bible for legalistic reasons?" Thanks for your answer. Stan
  • JD Moore - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Thx for the suggestion to find an RSV website. I assume there is none; no such website of the Revised Standard Version because of various reasons.

    What I'm so thankfu for l is this Official KJV website because it is so helpful. The first two answers to my questions about the RSV and translations were most informative and insightful.

    Thx again my fellow KJVers. My suspicions of false teaching is confirmed. I was edified, exhorted and consoled by both answers. Just checking. The "KJV truth" has set me straight. Blessings, JD.
  • Allen Tomlinson - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Lynda

    I once beleived in the teaching of the Bible. The stories i was taught about the bible were not as perfect as stated. And of all the not so correct teaching. i find this to be the most insane thing ive ever seen or heard
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Genesis 1:27,

    John 21:25,


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