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Please advise "how to" make these discussions Better with Bible verse "links" ie:

(1) Is it ( Gen 1:1)? or ( Genesis 1 : 1)? or ( Genesis 1:1) looks ok?

(2) How do we _underline_ a _verse link_ without the ()? Is it _Genesis 1:1_ { _underscore_ before and after the _verse_ }

This TEST question may help as I try "different things," but I Really Appreciate all your help, also!

God Bless you richly!!

Read all of the scriptures and ignore the cultists who stray from God's Word or distort scripture. Even children can understand what these verses mean so I think some adults are just wanting to reinforce what they already want to believe, because it's convenient for other reasons. Is a Christian a real Christ follower if he doesn't believe in the divinity of Christ? That is something we should pray deeply and study deeply about.

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Matthew 1:23-25

This sounds like an intellectually disingenuous question. Even children understand the concept of the Godhead or trinity- it's straight from God's word. If you don't understand it, that's fine, have you tried praying for wisdom and understanding. It's possible some of these comments are games a person is playing to try to pull some away from the truth to his cult-like beliefs not from the Bible. That's like doing the work of the devil. Here's some good reading material for the cultists.

1 John 5:7

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

John 1:1

Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

1 John 5:7

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 5:8

1 John 2:22-24

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

Matthew 1:23-25

Verses showing God speaking to Jesus and one of the Holy Spirit in the form of a dove for John the Baptist to witness:

Matthew 3:17

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Luke 9:35

And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

Mark 1:11

And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Mark 9:7

And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

Luke 3:22

And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, AND a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.

Matthew 17:5

While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

Following are verses clearly of the Godhead speaking to each other:

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, "God with us."

You may want to note these verses inside your Bible cover.

Bless your patience, Mishael

Trinity is not in the Bible. The Bible says Godhead.

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are without excuse:"

Genesis 1:1

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.

Matthew 1:23

"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us."

Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.

[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]

To REFUSE this knowledge, is to reject the Son of God, and his provision.

PS. I have these scriptures noted on the inside cover of my Bible.

David I will show you what the scriptures say then it's up to you. Genesis 1:6+7 talks about the firmament and where it was and what it divided, verse 8 God called the firmament heaven [the word firmament is expanse raqia and the word heaven is the word shamayim which means heaved or raised up things] when you read from verse 8 to verse 14-17 anything above earth is called heaven according to what God is saying in Genesis I.E. entire solar system and beyond basically space. The word Firmament is used primarily in Genesis all in chapter one from verse 6 to 20 and even calls the sky firmament the rest of the usage of firmament are in Psalms 2 Times Ezekiel 5 Times Daniel once. Prayerfully this helps.

Is man a perfect creature? In relation to what we see in the Garden of Eden ,yes.

Satan wants us to "be as God"? Being as God is much different than being God! Being God is being perfect in His being, in all His perfection!

Being "as" God is quite a step down, even too the ground! The distance between heaven and earth, between earthy and heavenly! This earth the evil one slides on, who is cautious in all his ways.

Even in His innocence Man has been given a great freedom, to discern these things. Called thinking and reasoning.

Mans disobedience to himself is what brought the great mistake we see today. The separation from His very being! This being a true being, eternal, perfect and everlasting! Being is the creation, it is truly the Father of us ALL!

This same Father you hear and see now, whom u rejected has now spoken through the Son. This Son who spirit is Alive given to all who trust Him.

This same spirit that was from the beginning, and exists even now. You see but u cannot see. You hear but you do not hear? How is it u do not perceive?

Acknowledging the Father is acknowledging yourself! Knowing who you are is knowing your being! If, you know these things, happy are ye!

This is an inheritance that no one can take away! The Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit are ALL ONE!

Repentance is needful! It is what leads us back to our being! Being one with the Father the Son ,the Holy Spirit!

Hi Loretta.

Isn't it funny we all can come up with 5 different explanations but yet say the same thing. "We don't know". LOL

God bless.

So, I guess I am not so ignorant of the Bible. I don't know either!

Thanks to all of you.

Hi Ron Scripturally this is what I gather Gen. 1: 26+27 let us make man In our the Image or likeness. In the Gospel of John 4:24 Jesus Christ said God is Spirit so Genesis 1:27 God gave man Spirit so he could communicate with man. In ch 2:7 The Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. That being shown when a born again person falls asleep in Christ His holy Spirit goes back to God he takes his last breath soul life and body goes back to dust. The part of man that died in genesis he lost His Spiritual connection, big time not good, bought back by Jesus Christ. Made available again day of pentecost to be born again of Gods Spirit by what Jesus Christ accomplished. All other inputs welcome.

Brother Jesse, not the United States, US (Flesh) has to be destroyed by the Word of God, written and LIVING (Christ in US).

These comments were on this websites Commentary Link page. Scroll down past the SEARCH BOX. Put your scripture in that

Wesley's Notes for 2 Thessalonians 2:8

And then - When every prince and power that restrains is taken away. Will that wicked one - Emphatically so called, be revealed. Whom the Lord will soon consume with the spirit of his mouth - His immediate power. And destroy - With the very first appearance of his glory.

People's Bible Notes for 2 Thessalonians 2:8

2Th 2:8 Then shall that Wicked be revealed. After the hindering power is removed. Whom the Lord shall consume. The Wicked power will be destroyed by the Lord's coming, and will continue to exist, possibly, until that event.

yes please it speaks about the stature of the united states

Earl,

Do you honestly believe that 2 Thessalonians 2:8 is talking about the United States? From what I see in the next few verses that follow, it is referring to the antichrist.

How do you come to the conclusion that it is the US?

Amen and Amen, Brother S Spencer, we can't just be wounded by the Word of God ( Revelation 13:3). We have to DIE (be killed) by the Word of God ( Revelation 13:10).

2 Thessalonians 2:8 An then shall that Wicked (US, children of Satan) be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume ( Hebrews 12:29), with the spirit of his mouth (Words of God), and shall DESTROY with the brightness of his coming ( Colossians 1:27 CHRIST IN US).

Hi Loretta.

I meant to say If God never created Satan and would have just created "MAN" would man have turned out rebellious and evil? Perhaps so. ECT.....

God bless

Hi Loretta.

You are correct, God knows all things. He even knew Satan would fall and deceive man.

Knowing this you know about as much as everybody. So with that being said I will give you my answer which would sound a lot like sister Dianne's and brother Earls, but I will say it in three word! I DONT KNOW. There is nothing given in scripture on this matter.

Another question is could creating Lucifer the way he did and knowing he would fall be a part of Gods redemption plan? Who knows?

Another question and this one might a little easier to answer, If God never created Satan and would have just created Satan would man have turned out rebellious and evil? Perhaps so. We know during the millennium Satan will be chained a thousand years and man will be under the reign of Christ and there will still be death and sin. After the Devil is loosed again he will deceive the nations again. With that being said, why did God create a rebellious man?

Now we come to part of Brother Earl's answer.

Romans 9:20-23. Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

"Perhaps this can apply to Lucifer as well."

Here's a side note on Satan. He was created perfect. Ezekiel 28:15.

He fell because of pride. Ezekiel 28:17. and this caused him to want to be like the most high! Isaiah 14:12-14.

He was created perfect and by this he wanted to be worshiped.

Is not that what he ask the Lord Jesus to do in Mathew 4:9. This is also one of mans biggest problems as well, desiring praise and glory for ourselves.

God bless.

Loretta God Created all things in the beginning after the council of His will and since God knows everything he knew what was going to happen and what he had to do to fix it. That being said everything he created I.E. angels and man had freedom of will. Lucifer in the beginning was Top angel or messenger when transgression was found in him He changed into the devil or satan. In the garden of eden the serpent one of the descriptions for how satan works tricked Eve and gave the fruit to adam. In the garden Adam had complete control over Gods creation When the serpent i.e. satan tricked eve and they broke Gods only commandment all that authority and power became the devils Gospel of Luke 4:4 The devil said to Jesus christ all this power will I give thee for that is delivered unto me and to whomsoever I will I give it. Now thank God that Jesus Christ bought back everything spiritually that the enemy stole and Gods will will be done on earth as it is in heaven in the end revelation.

Sister Loretta:

Romans 8:20 For the creature (CREATION) was made (by God through Christ) subject to vanity (to sin), NOT WILLINGLY (creation had no say in the matter). BUT by REASON (total knowledge and wisdom) of HIM (GOD) who hath subjected the same (CREATION) in HOPE (redemption and deliverance by the WORKS of God through Christ),

Romans 8 19 For the earnest expectation of the creature (CREATION) WAITETH (till the second resurrection) for the manifestation (first resurrection) of the sons of God (The SEED of GOD).

Romans 8:21 But the creature (CREATION) ITSELF also shall be DELIVERED from the bondage of corruption (the GRAVE) into the GLORIOUS LIBERTY of the children of God.

Ephesians 1:10 That in the dispensation of the FULNESS OF TIMES he might gather IN ONE all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even IN HIM:

Acts 3:21 Whom the HEAVEN (Son of God) must receive until the TIMES OF RESTITUTION OF ALL THINGS, which God hath spoken by the mouth of his holy prophets since the world begin.

John 3:13 And no man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN.

Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery...CHRIST IN YOU...

Romans 9:21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

Romans 9:23 And that he might make know the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he hath afore prepared unto glory,

Romans 11:31 Even so have these now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Loretta Hopson Go to top of page go into discussion by book and chapter then line up what is shared with scripture that's an option. God Bless

Question...I have been ask this several times and I do not have complete answers

God created all things. Did He create the angels? Did He create Satan? God knows all things.

Why did Satan come about? God did know what he would do to mankind..right??

Earl Here's one question that you ask Revelation 12:7 maybe heaven signifies something the question is what does God consider to be heaven since its His rule book. Genesis 1:6 firmament is expanse 6+7 tell you what the expanse divided.Verse 8 and God called the firmament heaven means heaved up things, so now when I read from verse 8-17 it appears anything above earth is considered heaven I.E. entire solar system now there are a number of translations of heaven i.e. heavenlies heavens heavenly. but all of them deal with anything above earth. So you have an idea of what I do when I work scripture, I try to stay in the frame work of what God said and work from there. Prayer full you understand. God Bless

Sister Dianne, food for thought:

You commented, God is perfect he cannot produce something not perfect that's where I think in between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 the rebellion in heaven could have happened and lucifer came down and screwed things with the other angels that rebelled.

I thought God, through Jesus, created ALL THINGS. Since he created lucifer and lucifer sinned, then lucifer wasn't created perfect. This is what other verses say:

Romans 8:20 Because the creature (creation) ITSELF was made subject to VANITY, NOT WILLINGLY ..

Romans 9:21 Hath the potter not power over the clay, or the SAME LUMP to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour.

God' word says he did not make everything perfect in the beginning, BUT he through the REBIRTH of everyone by SPIRIT will make ALL THINGS PERFECT. IN HIS appointed time; eternity has a lot of time.

Maybe Revelations account of Satan falling from heaven represents something different and at another time.

Revelation 1:3 ...for the TIME IS AT HAND

Doesn't seen those words would apply to something that occurred back in Genesis.

Revelation 1:1 ....An SIGNIFIED it ...

Sounds like Revelation represents; through WORD SYMBOLS, things that mean something other than

what a dictionary would define them as.

Matthew 12:38 But if I CAST OUT devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God (Christ in you) is come unto you.

Revelation 12:7 And there was war in heaven... (maybe heaven SIGNIFIES something)

Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was CAST OUT (of heaven)..

Jesus said he cast Satan out of YOU

Revelation said out of heaven. Could heaven SIGNIFY YOU.

Revelation 21:1 And I saw a NEW HEAVEN (where CHRIST IN YOU, dwells). SIGNIFIED.

Food for thought, the Spirit reveals.

Chris This another area that's food for thought, In Genesis my understanding of the word create Biblcally is to bring something into existence that which never existed before. In genesis Chapter 1 its used in verse one then in verse 21 he created great whales and verse 27 He created man in his image. God is Spirit you can't communicate with spirit via the five senses then in chapter 2:7 It says God formed man of the dust of the ground his body and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul. Now man was body soul and spirit. getting back to Genesis 1:1 God is perfect he cannot produce something not perfect that's where I think in between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2 the rebellion in Heaven could have happened and lucifer came down and screwed things up with the other angels that rebelled. From verse 3 to verse to verse 19 God is setting things back in order so to speak. No I'm not hardly an expert in this field no single man in my mind is an expert on the Knowledge of God Word even the best commentators disagree among themselves so I'm like everyone else look up and research. It's a whole lot of fun to work. God Bless Any other input more than welcome.

Thank you Dianne. I spent quite some time yesterday researching E.W. Bullinger, especially on Genesis 1. He has certainly put out a lot of papers on many subjects but could not find anything about the issues that has been discussed here. Though, I did see that the word "was" is treated as "became" as seen in Genesis 1:2.

However, what was perplexing & may need verifying by those more familiar with his materiel, was that he believed that the Church did not commence till somewhere mid-Acts. And then nearer to his demise, he changed that view, believing that Church commenced after the Book of Acts. As well, that water baptism was irrelevant in the post-Church age. They were very troubling finds, if true; so any expansion of any of these matters (from anyone) would be welcome.

You are correct Dianne. In Genesis 9:1, the same Hebrew word is used & in the context of what had occurred earlier (i.e. the flood & annihilation of all flesh), then using the word 'replenish' will satisfy the meaning. Since all was lost earlier, it could only be through Noah, his family & the preserved animals that the 'new world' would be set into a 'living' motion again.

But if we use 'replenish' in Genesis 1:28 instead of the word 'fill', then some unanswerable questions arise as to whether the Earth was inhabited in a 'previous' creation: if so, what form they took, if humans were created, then the sin question, their recovery, etc., etc. So, it's one thing to consider an earlier creation, but as some would like to confirm their belief on the basis of the word 'replenish', without any other information given in the Bible or in history, has to be placed in the "I can't be sure" basket. Thank you.

Hi Chris Here's some stuff to think about in the strongs concordance and the young's analytical biblically the word was does not exist. Now when used in the bible some times they italicized it and some times they didn't. In Genesis 1:2 It says the earth was [not italicized] without form and void and darkness was [italicized] upon the face of the deep. I'm aware that there's times when the translators are correct and sometimes they weren't. Not saying the bible is wrong translation has nothing to do with what holy men spake years ago as they were moved by holy spirit .Peter 1:20+21 Just a conversation piece. Anyone invited God Bless

Richard Hi no one knows how old the earth is in Genesis 1:1 it says in the beginning so take your pick 20 million, 80 million no matter what they choose it doesn't change what God said it is still in the beginning. Another point the statement replenish the earth in the context was stated to man and woman, so I don't know what was there before but something was and got changed. Something to think about.

it was great! Thanks for sending me! allprases!!!! to the most high!

I believe that in Genesis 1: 26 when God said, Let us make man in our image. He was referring to Himself and His heavenly host. This is where the different races came from. He made both men and women and told them to go and be fruitful and replenish the earth.

This is the only logical explanation I can come up with. In Chapter 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished and all the HOST of them. 2. And on the seventh day God ENDED his work which he had made; and rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.

I truly believe God gives us the answers to every question possible that we may have right in His Word. All we have to do is ask for His guidance to seek and find it. I too had asked this question when I first read the scriptures and I truly believe this was God's answer to my question. So the "man to till the ground" in verse 5 is the man Et Ha Adham which God breathe life in his nostrils is the man in which Christ would come from. And God made Eve, from the Rib ( curve, helix-DNA ). Et Ha Adham refers to Eve as mother of all living because Christ is the Father of all living (all that believe in Him). Remember that Christ is God incarnate! Christ says in the scriptures, "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father). The Bible is God, Christ History ... who He is, who He came from, where He came from, what He did for us.

I hope this helps ... clear your mind of all that you been taught and seek Him with a clear mind and let His word speak to you. Pray that He gives you the wisdom and understanding of His word. He will answer all that seek Him. Praise and Glory to God!