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  • Mishaet - In Reply on Psalms 1 - 3 years ago
    These scriptures do show the Godhead speaking amongst themselves. Before and after the Cross.

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Just to add to the other comments: with what we have been told in Genesis, the formless & void (empty) Earth was really a great watery mass ("darkness was on the face of the deep and the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters").

    Then God separated these waters by a firmament (Heb. raqiya, or an open expanse), so that some waters remained on the Earth & the rest above the Earth (referred to as 'heaven', ). In this respect, the 'heaven' (or, firmament) was the expanse that included this water, the sky as well as the universe, as the Lord created "lights in the firmament of heaven to divide the day from the night" (v 14).

    Of the water that was on Earth, we understand that God had parted it so that dry land would appear (v 9), but of the water remaining in the firmament, we're not told. It could have been a massive storage area whereby the Earth was watered from the sky (as Adam mentioned), & enclosing the Earth with moisture, giving the Earth a greenhouse effect. And this, with the "mist from the Earth" (2:6) sustained the plant life.
  • Keep the faith - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Scientists are buffoons !
  • Adam - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Dear Chuck,

    My understanding is the firmament may have been a type of protective atmosphere of the earth made with water- perhaps like clouds or thicker which would irrigate or humidify the air and land. Genesis 1:7. Keep in mind it never rained until Noah boarded the ark, so this was probably a perfect and beautiful system. God bless...
  • Mishaet - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Chris will be in here shortly and he can give a better answer. My phone is about on zero.

    Firmament is land mass. It was altogether in the time before Adam and Eve were created.

    Scientists now say all the planets had water at one time. Extreme heat dried up all of their water.

    Only Earth has water; and life.

    You can Google scientists recent announcement on that discovery. I saw the program on PBS. Might look on PBS dot org
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Go back out to the red page where you clicked the link to come into this room.

    You'll see the links about different Bibles. Pick Apocrypha

    KJV Bible

    KJV Standard

    KJV 1611

    KJV Introduction

    KJV Apocrypha

    KJV Mobile Site

    KJV Store

    Study Tools
  • Michael Vesosky - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    God is very meticulous when it comes to having a complete cannon of scriptures in the 66 books of the bible. Be careful who you choose to believe . The devil uses people to tell you there are missing books of the bible. But God is a able to preserve his word that the man of God may be thoroughly furnished. It is not a coincidence that Isaiah has 66 chapters corresponding to the 66 books of the bible. Isaiah 1:2 Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the LORD hath spoken, I have nourished and brought up children, and they have rebelled against me. Genesis 1 And God said let there be... and the heavens and earth listened and gave ear and came into existence. The biggest division in the bible is between the old testament and the new testament. 39 in the old 27 in the new. So If Isaiah chapter 39 represents he last book of the old testament and chapter 40 represents the first book of the new testament then there should be a division between chapters 39 and 40 and there is. Chapters 36 -39 all talk about Hezekiah but in chapter 40 the subject dramatically changes and the subject is the voice of one crying in the wilderness which just happens to be how the new testament starts with John the Baptist being the voice crying in the wilderness. The last chapter of Isaiah... For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain. Last book of the Bible And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea. 66 Books preserved and kept by the power of God. There is nothing more important to God than his Word.
  • Cimarron 777 on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I've been told that there are books of the Bible that aren't actually in the Bible and I just would like to know exactly why. Like, I get that there's the whole 'works' and 'Christ' deal. But why aren't all of the books put into one big book anyways? I would really appreciate it if someone could answer this. If so, could you give references as to how I could obtain these other books? Please and thank you.

    C. Alexander
  • Chuck Gaffan on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    in Genesis 1:7 can you explain what is meant by the firmament and what or rather where did the water come from? I am having difficulty understanding where the firmament is and why did the waters have to be divided?

    Regards

    Chuck
  • Leo Emmanuel Lochard on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Jeremiah 33:26 | View whole chapter | See verse in context

    "Then will I cast away the seed of Jacob, and David my servant, so that I will not take any of his seed to be rulers over the seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: for I will cause their captivity to return, and have mercy on them."

    THEN I WILL CAST AWAY THE SEED OF JACOB.... "The Scepter had to remain in JUDAH, Christ, "the lion of Judah" and the root of Jesse.....

    "LET HE WHO HAS EARS, HEAR AND UNDERSTAND!"

    SEED and not "descendants" - what was "the seed of Jacob" - supplanter; dealer; deceiver; thief; conniver; contender etc.... And what was the SEED of ABRAM-ABRAHAM, father of FAITH, and father of many families and nations, through obedience in sacrificing his only son of promise, ISAAC: He BELIEVED GOD: THUS, IT WAS HIS FAITH THAT WAS "RECKONED TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS!"

    Hence, why Christ talks in the parable of the Sower sowing "SEED" and "beware of the leaven of the Pharisees" and the Apostle Paul, also warning us, against "mutilators of the flesh," blaspheming their heresy that Christ had no come in the flesh: for "a little leaven leavens the whole loaf."

    "The abomination of sacrilege that causes desolation" - spoken of by Daniel the prophet and reaffirmed to us by CHRIST JESUS HIMSELF more than 2,000 years ago, is "standing in the holy place" right now amongst us, since 1948 - causing violence and bloodshed for spoils of loot and booty!

    "Jerusalem" -city of peace in Arabic-"stolen" by David from the JEBUSITES, which God had "allowed" to happen, AFTER "THE ISRAELITES" HAD REJECTED GOD AS THEIR ONLY KING (1 SAMUEL) SO AS TO save a REMNANT to bring Christ Jesus Messiah Savior into the world; Jerusalem, whose name has NEVER changed, to this day, spiritually symbolizes-prefigured God's living Word in ISAIAH the prophet, Hebrews 11, in Revelation 20-22 - "a new country:" "THE JERUSALEM FROM HEAVEN" WHICH ONLY CHRIST JESUS MESSIAH WILL ESTABLISH UPON HIS RETURN WITH "A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH." **
  • Leo Emmanuel Lochard on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    For as christ himself in his merciful eternal loving kindness and selfless omnipoteent and omniscient benevolence warned us more than 2,000 years ago" : "heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall never pass away" - ( acts 4:12 kjv 1611 - for there is no other god given to humankind by whom we must be saved." ***
  • Leo Emmanuel Lochard - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    My comments addressed all the godless humanist "ISM's - among which, ZIONISM, 1896, and NOT the book of Genesis, which is also God's living Word prophesying the coming of Christ Jesus Messiah Lord God Savior Redeemer in GENESIS 3:15, KJV, where Christ is referred to as THE SEED OF WOMAN, and not as "descendant" or "offspring" that begs focus and concentration on carnal biological genealogical flesh lineage that contradicts God's Word in the Book of John that we are BORN OF GOD and that THE FLESH IS OF NO AVAIL ( JOHN 1: 1-18; JOHN 3:16; JOHN 6:63; JOHN 17:3; HEBREWS 8:13; HEBREWS 13:8; REVELATION 1:7; REVELATION 20, 21, 22, KJV 1611, HOLY BIBLE). ***
  • Leo Emmanuel Lochard on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Are you now censoring the FIRST AMENDMENT and serving ANTICHRIST in promoting the godless material interests of carnal men spiritually blinded by "the lust of the eyes, the lust of the flesh, and the pride of life? You will be found yourselves fighting against God, a warning issued by Gamaliel, a Pharisee, under whom, the Apostle Paul, was "advancing in Judaism," sum of which, the Apostle Paul, uttering God's prophetic eternal Words of Spirit and Life in Christ Jesus, aptly, calls "dung" or "refuse?" "Ye err greatly in not knowing the Scripture and the power of God!" ***
  • The Godhead Scriptures Found in the Bible - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 3 years ago
    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    Mishael
  • Hannahmiguel on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    i want to thank for waking me up this morning and for life
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1:2 - 3 years ago
    I actually found the Book of Jude part on this story, just now:

    Context Summary

    Jude 1:5-16 describes the nature, errors, and fate of false teachers plaguing the Christian church. Jude's readers seem to have been acquainted with Israel's history. This passage references Old Testament events to help explain the apostates' sins, the danger they pose, and how the Lord will punish them. Jude references the unbelief of Israel after the Lord delivered them from slavery in Egypt, rebellious angels, the ungodly people of Sodom and Gomorrah, and the dangers of allowing such people to mingle with other believers.

    Chapter Context

    Jude's brief letter describes men at their worst and God at His best. Believers are already on the victorious side! Those who mock God's truth and who follow their own desires all while claiming to be Christians, are the most dangerous kind of unbelievers. These persons pose a danger to themselves and to any Christians they might influence. In response, Christians need to focus on understanding the truth of God's written Word and submitting to His will.

    None of this fits in with Michael the Archangel.
  • Jude 19 and what was the strife about - In Reply on Genesis 1:2 - 3 years ago
    It's possible I remembered a different tussle someone had with Satan. I know there's a 2nd incident in Daniel. Where Gabriel was bringing an answer to Daniels prayer, and Michael had to fight principalities to get Gabriel through. Amazing when you consider it.

    You're right in the point that Moses was already buried, and Michael was sent to guard the burial place. The point being that Satan wanted to use the body for idol worship or another reason? Here's part of the commentary on that:

    " The key point here is that Michael, despite being a powerful being himself, refused to slander the Devil. This proves the arrogance of the apostates Jude is discussing. They are so conceited that they're doing what even an archangel won't!

    Moses, Israel's leader during the exodus from Egypt, was buried by the Lord in an unknown place ( Deuteronomy 34:1-6). According to the traditional account, Michael and the Devil had engaged in a dispute about the burial of Moses' body, but Michael would not slander the Devil. Instead, he yielded to God's authority by trusting Him to rebuke the Devil. We do not know the details of the dispute, but God may have assigned Michael with the task of guarding Moses' grave, and the Devil may have wanted to steal Moses' body to make it an object of worship."

    Evidently it would be better to Google the History of Jude 1, and see what New Testament conflict he was having with the locals. I'll get back to you.

    And thanks so much for bringing this to my split attention. Today my electric company swears I cancelled my service after the ice storm, a month ago. I didn't. They Couldn't resolve that they made an error; so I had to tell them I was going elsewhere to get service, which I did. Sounds similar to Michael & Satan, lol.
  • Ron - In Reply on Genesis 1:2 - 3 years ago
    Hi Mishael, I have read many of your posts and you help lead many on their search for the truth including me. I do have a question; I have heard others say that Moses was taken to heaven. I don't know if what you said about Michael was sent to collect Moses' body, meant the same. This is not to debate or dispute it is just a question I have you may can help with. Jesus is the Firstfruits of those that slept, and by scripture it is clear Jesus was the first that gives us hope.

    Acts 2:24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

    Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

    How can anyone have been resurrected or overcome death before Jesus? Thanks Ron
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 1:2 - 3 years ago
    I think maybe the scripture you seek is in Jude chapter 1:9

    Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

    Comment: I believe this shows that Michael was sent by the Lord to collect the dead body of Moses
  • Hugh flores - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Read the bible start in the book of Acts
  • Liz on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    My sister murdered our parents. I turned to God for guidance on how not to go crazy, to not tread a dark path of vengeance, to seek forgiveness and grace during a terrible and challenging time....I pray she finds God, and I continue on my path.....and I thank God every day for the blessings he has bestowed upon me....James, Job, 2Timothy were especially helpful.
  • Mari on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I am a paradox of sorts. I was born to a saintly mother and a troubled dad who drank to forget horrors of World War II. We were poverty stricken but we never did without. My bossy sister was 6-years older, my sweet brother was 6 years younger. My life was great until my maternal grandmother fell and broke her shoulder. Turns out she was a victim of breast cancer when I was only 6. My amazing grandpa died 9 months after she did with a broken heart.

    How sad my life became! No more fancy homemade dresses from Granny. No more fairy tales from Grandpa. I became very shy. The older I got, the more shy I became until, I would turn red if someone even looked at me. My sister and I started attending the Nazarene Church with our neighbors. The only friend I had in Sunday school was a crippled girl who did not make me feel inferior. In fact I picked out all my friends by looking to see if they had a right to be shy too. (too fat, too skinny, too tall, too short) How Shallow!

    By the time 2 other brothers had been born, I had decided that I wanted to help the unfortunate, the lame, the weak, the sickly. In fact I wanted to become a missionary nurse. I became a born-again Christian at about the age of 12.

    As my friends at school began to fill out a little, I noticed I was the one who was tall and skinny. I became more shy than ever afraid I would never have a boyfriend, never marry . . .

    After graduation from high school, I did become a registered nurse. I wanted to witness to folks on their deathbeds so they would not miss Heaven. However, my personality did a 360 degree turn. Now I thought I was pretty, just the right size, the favorite nurse of everyone, etc. I ran into some issues with some sinful boyfriends. Please dont act this way. I broke my sweet mama's heart for a while until I returned to Christ who amazingly forgave me and set me on the path toward righteousness.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 3 years ago
    Charles,

    I'm not sure I would say that the King James is the only correct Bible. There are some who are "King James" only and won't even get into a biblical conversation with anyone who doesn't use the KJV. I've read through this thread and there are some great responses. Chris has shared so much good information.

    Personally, for me, the KJV is my choice. I do trust some of the other versions, but not all of them. I still like to do side by side comparisons between various bibles. We all have to decide for ourselves which version we want, and what it is we are looking for when we choose, whether it be easy to read, accurate, or whatever the case might be.

    We have to keep in mind that whatever version we choose, they are all translations. Some might say that the KJV is the most accurate translation, but how do we know that unless we know the Greek?

    Something that is interesting to note is that the King James was written without copyright. I think every other translation has copyright. This tells me that if I chose to write a bible, I would have to change the wording from the other copyrighted versions.

    As far as I know, there are no two translations that are word for word. The problem we run into is once the wording starts to change because it has to, it can totally change the true meaning of the text. That's something we have to be careful about.

    As for the Greek, I have learned to read Greek the same way I would read English. I do read from the Textus Receptus at times. Greek is such an exact language, and I think that's why the Lord chose that language for the New Testament because it is full of doctrine and teaching. God chose an exact language for that. English is a very general language and I think it's why we have so much division in the body of Christ today because we can't agree on what our English text is saying.

    Thank you so much for your faithfulness to the Lord in your years in the ministry. May the Lord continue to bless you!
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 3 years ago
    Obviously, I can't speak for "so many people" who believe this, & only for myself. Though I would think that some of the points given may well be what these others are accepting. I won't give any expansion on my points as that would take up several pages, but just to list some, in support of the KJV.

    a. In doctrine, there has been no demonstrable error with a fuller, doctrinally superior text.

    b. In accuracy, it is a literal translation, gives person distinction, i.e. first, second, third person (as also seen in some other languages), use of italics, & no quotation marks (as they're not in the original languages).

    c. In style, complex compound sentences aren't split into smaller sentences, Hebraic expressions are preserved, the Greek word order & tense is followed more closely (Jesse, if he reads this, can shed more light on this as he is proficient in Greek), & it maintains the poetic nature of the Scriptures (found in books such as Job, Psalms, Proverbs, etc.).

    d. In background, though the state of the soul of King James has been questioned, he did pursue his quest for a Bible that was not like the prevailing Geneva Bible & one that had to be accurate & true to the original manuscripts. The KJV is free from modernist bias, and its translators were highly proficient in Hebrew, Greek & Latin and of course, in English.

    Those are just a few points why I believe in the great worth of the KJV. But as I've said in other comments, I would rather that a person read another 'easier' version of the Bible (such as NASB, NKJV) to learn its Truths, than to not read it at all leaving him bereft of God's Word for him. Blessings to you, dear brother; hope you're doing well & strong in spirit.
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 3 years ago
    Hello Charles,

    I don't think we who stick to the KJV bible would say it is the "only correct" one. It is the most accurate English translation from the Hebrew(OT) and Greek(NT) texts we have today. I'm not going to go so far as to say it is 100% accurate as I have seen subtle differences here and there going through the Hebrew and Greek texts. Although I will say it is probably more than 95% accurate and I am no scholar in translations. We must give credit to the 50+ highly respectable scholars who took years to translate the original Holy Scriptures to the first printed English Bible which is the 1611 KJV. The normal KJV is noted as the Oxford 1769 version. The only differences from the 1611 version are updated spellings, the letter "J" which was not yet in 1611, and some capitalization changes. Though it is word for word. Unless anyone else knows of any other differences.

    A couple details for you about the changes made to the modern Bible from the KJV. Anywhere between 7 & 25 entire verses and 2,000 to 7,000 words removed. Then between 3,000 and 10,000 words added in some translation. Words changed. The KJV Bible having over 780,000 words it may not seem to be much. Though some of the things they remove and change are very important.

    As I myself was led to Jesus Christ from I think a NASB Bible. Then seeing how much better the KJV was that is all I read now.

    It is the most accurate English translation we have of the Word of God. If anyone has any questions about something it would be better to ask another, or search for details, rather than just dis-regard the KJV because it is not like "modern" people speak today.

    Like stated it's not the "only correct" one it's the most accurate one in English. There has to be a best version of the English Bible and the KJV holds the crown.

    Revelation 22:18-19.

    God Bless.
  • Hugh flores - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    Read the bible the book of Matthew chapter 17 v 15-21 Matthew chapter 4 v 23-24 Mark chapter 5 v 1-20 Luke chapter 8 v 27-36. In the name of Jesus Christ.
  • Charles David Smith - In Reply on Genesis 1:1 - 3 years ago
    Why do so many people still think that the King James Version of the Bible is the only "Correct" one?
  • Paula paterson on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    If the Father's spirit is all good and the darkness brings forth evil, then Mathew has to be true that if there is darkness at all in us it is all darkness. If the Fathers spirit is in us it is all light.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Luke 1 - 3 years ago
    Hi SACHA,

    You asked in your post for someone to explain Mark 13:32 and genesis 22,

    Here is Mark 13:32. But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. There is nothing to explain there! Jesus says the son don't know and I believe him, And I agree with you Genesis 22 is a foreshadowing of God sacrificing the Lord, you asked how can Jesus be the sacrifice and the sacrificer, no point in explaining that either. The difference between me and you is you need an explanation to believe, I believe without the explanation, I also believe when the Lord says I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. I believe that because he said it. I also believe Isaiah 9:6, John 14:9, and many other verses that proves his deity,

    As equal important I believe Genesis 1:1. and I believe And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. I believe it because he's GOD! Jesus said he was not of this world, the scripture says Jesus came out of the bosom of the father and he go back to the father, Sacha The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. God is the creator who speaks things to exist out of thin air!! There is NOTHING he cant do! Do you believe that? If you do then your problem is not believing Mark 13:32, Your problem is accepting Mark 13:32. If God wanted to manifest himself into 10 beings at one time, disperse them all over the world with the father being the living Devine headquarters from whence they came, limiting them, and bring them back to there former Glory, Can he do it? NOTE: I'm not asking you did he do it! I'M ASKING YOU CAN HE DO IT? Yes he can. When it come to Jesus being The Almighty, Everlasting father, the Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending. "GOD" manifesting himself in the flesh, The scripture says that's who he is and that's what he did. And I believe it.
  • Sophie - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 3 years ago
    I believe you brother. Angels definitely do exist and God will dispatch them to earth on his children's behalf when they are in need. I have seen one come on my behalf and get me out of a situation in court that I should have never been in . God is so good and We give him all the praise . In Jesus name


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