Part 8. J Vernon Mcgee. (Paul and James Use Abraham to Illustrate.)
So Paul's example has to do with the early part of Abraham's life. When James presents his argument, we find that he deals with the end of Abraham's life and the offering of Isaac upon the altar. This was the last appearance of God to this man, and James says, in essence, "Now here is the example of what faith has done in this man's life - it has brought him to make the supreme sacrifice."
Look again at James 2:21: "Was not Abraham, our father, justified by works, when he had offered Isaac, his son, upon the altar?" Now in what way does the offering of Isaac reveal the fact that Abraham was justified by works? To see this clearly, we need to notice some very familiar facts. These interesting incidents took place toward the end of the life of Abraham when God called upon him to make the great sacrifice - which was the supreme crisis in his life.
God's Test - Genesis 22.
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did test Abraham" ( Genesis 22:1). The King James Version uses the word "tempt," but the New Scofield Reference Bible changes it to "test." I know that it's the same Greek word that you will find for "tempt," but you will also recall that James says,
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man. ( James 1:13)
Now when a man is tempted with evil, it is never God tempting him; it is Satan. God does not tempt men with evil; He tempts them with the good. He tests men in that sense. God's tests always lead to discipline and development of Christian character and life, while the tests and temptations of Satan always lead to the destruction of the life of the individual. Here we see that Abraham is being tested of God for his own good.
Vs 14-18. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh, as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD; for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son; That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the seashore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Was Abraham justified by works? Yes.
Scripture says that he was justified by works. ( James 2:21-24)
Do we have here a contradiction to the apostle Paul? Did not Paul say that Abraham was justified by faith - not by works? Paul makes a very specific statement in Romans:
"For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath something of which to glory, but not before God. ( Romans 4:2)
Then over in Galatians 3:6 we read, "Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."
Is Paul and James writings in conflict on this point? NO!
Here is an article by J Vernon Mcgee explaining this Paradox.
Paul vs. James in the Use of Words.
May I hasten to state that Paul and James do not conflict at all. They are in entire agreement. As someone has said, "Paul and James do not stand face to face, fighting against each other, but they stand back to back fighting opposite foes." The whole problem lies in the fact that they use the same words, but with a different meaning altogether. They are discussing the same subject from different viewpoints. This you will find upon examining the context.
See Part 4.
J Vernon Mcgee. (Paul vs. James in the Use of Words)
YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH [yah-way / ji-hoh-veh]: "LORD" ( Deuteronomy 6:4; Daniel 9:14) - strictly speaking, the only proper name for God. Translated in English Bibles "LORD" (all capitals) to distinguish it from Adonai, "Lord." The revelation of the name is given to Moses "I Am who I Am" ( Exodus 3:14). This name specifies an immediacy, a presence. Yahweh is present, accessible, near to those who call on Him for deliverance ( Psalm 107:13), forgiveness ( Psalm 25:11) and guidance ( Psalm 31:3).
YAHWEH-JIREH [yah-way-ji-reh]: "The Lord Will Provide" ( Genesis 22:14) - the name memorialized by Abraham when God provided the ram to be sacrificed in place of Isaac.
YAHWEH-RAPHA [yah-way-raw-faw]: "The Lord Who Heals" ( Exodus 15:26) - "I am Jehovah who heals you" both in body and soul. In body, by preserving from and curing diseases, and in soul, by pardoning iniquities.
YAHWEH-NISSI [yah-way-nee-see]: "The Lord Our Banner" ( Exodus 17:15), where banner is understood to be a rallying place. This name commemorates the desert victory over the Amalekites in Exodus 17.
YAHWEH-M'KADDESH [yah-way-meh-kad-esh]: "The Lord Who Sanctifies, Makes Holy" ( Leviticus 20:8; Ezekiel 37:28) - God makes it clear that He alone, not the law, can cleanse His people and make them holy.
YAHWEH-SHALOM [yah-way-shah-lohm]: "The Lord Our Peace" ( Judges 6:24) - the name given by Gideon to the altar he built after the Angel of the Lord assured him he would not die as he thought he would after seeing Him.
YAHWEH-ELOHIM [yah-way-el-oh-him]: "LORD God" ( Genesis 2:4; Psalm 59:5) - a combination of God's unique name YHWH and the generic word for "God" signifying that He is the Lord who is God.
And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
He staggered not at the PROMISE of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
And being fully persuaded that, what he had PROMISED, he was able also to perform.
And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
NOW IT WAS NOT WRITTEN FOR HIS SAKE ALONE, that it was imputed to him;
BUT FOR US ALSO, TO WHOM IT SHALL BE IMPUTED, if we BELIEVE ON HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS OUR LORD FROM THE DEAD;
Who was delivered for OUR OFFENCES, and was raised again for OUR JUSTIFICATION.
Galatians 4:28
Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of PROMISE.
Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:16-19.
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by PROMISE.
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
CONCLUSION
Galatians 3:27-29.
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Covenants of God: Introduction: God's patterns in initiation
1. End of Dispensation: Judgment of men
2. Signs and Wonders
3. Element of fire
4, Blessings and cursings
5. Separation of God's people
6. Be fruitful and multiply
EDEN. God sent out man after what is known as the "Age of Innocence"; possibly that involved an implied covenant with Adam
to care for the earth; and the first marriage. Man would be mortal and suffer on earth; and driven out from the Garden
and the Tree of Life. The Serpent was cursed; and by implication Satan. The death blow was promised in Genesis 3:15 along
with God's final victory. Judgment came on Cain and would affect his descendants in Genesis 4:15.
NOAH. God made a covenant symbolized by the rainbow after destroying all but Noah and his family (8 people). He promised never to destroy the earth by water again. The animals were part of the plan for preservation and interestingly part of the
covenant promises ( Gen. 9:12). He also was told to be fruitful and multiply anong with his sons( Gen. 9:1); compare with Genesis 1:28). Genesis 10:15-18 had Ham's one son cursed (no time to elaborate here).
ABRAHAM: Sent from Ur of the Chaldees; and given promises through fire in Genesis 15:17-20 when asleep (note Adam's
deep sleep in Genesis 2:21). He was promised miraculously to have innumerable offspring in Genesis 22:17. Judgment
came on Sodom in Genesis 18; Abraham's relative and family.
EXODUS/DEUTERONOMY: God at Horeb appears in fire and smoke; and great sounds to produce fear of His Name; then promises to bring them fully out of the promised land. Ten Commandments "seal the deal" as it was being a peculiar people.
God eventually purged out the rebels; only Caleb and Joseph made it to the promised land of that generation along with children.
BOOK OF ACTS: Pentecost brings about Church Age and New Covenant with fire; signs and wonders. God judges Israel AD 70; final judgment promised later.
There are 2 facets to the Cross the new Covenant from Calvary....Plz keep that in mind.....One is redemption for humanity via his precious blood.....But the 2 nd is multiplication of his seed...Smite the Shepherd and the sheep will be scattered then i will turn my hand to the lil ONES....The babes and suckling he mentions that can worship God with a Perfect Praise.....That are gonna be born in us that hear his words his seeds.....Thats y he is saying whosoever receiveth one such Child in my NAME receiveth ME.....Which are the Children of Promise.....An Israel of God.....The Children of the kingdom...
.......That was the great PROMISE..... Genesis 22:17......I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven.....Thus multiplication of his precious seed in humanity.....Resulting in a Baby Christ born in us sinners who cd not keep the law in a Dream.....And this Child is born of God in us and he cannot sin.....Thus fulfilling the law.....The 2 nd facet is truly multiplication of his seed in humanity...Thus the sower and his precious seed.....When a seed dies it multiplies.....He told the Greeks unless a seed dies it abides alone...Just 1 seed ....but if it dies it will bring forth much fruit many Christ.....Everybody is gonna get a seed thus everybody is gonna birth him.....The Greeks wanted to see him.....The whole world is gonna see him b/c of what he did at Calvary that New Covenant in his blood....Remember God Almighty was so passionate about this Promise of multiplication that he swore by his very self...Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came ( the living word) it made them Gods and the scriptures cannot be broken....Living scriptures his offspring born in us via his seed.....Thats y the woman is giving birth ,its simply a picture of multiplication of his seed.....And thats y the dragon satan wants to kill the woman and her CHILD...Her Child is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement....Which is the spirit of truth Jesus spoke of.
I don't think you will find it worded the way you worded it in your post with the actual word "Immediately".
But salvation is immediate when one truly believes and throughout the scripture it teaches that.
Actually in your original post you mentioned "some saying this before judgment".
I believe in your past posts you believes no one knows they're saved until Judgment.
The response from most of us is that a Christian is not part of that Judgment.
However we won't get into that here.
Here's what I will like to declare yo you.
I honestly believe there has been verses given that declares what you are looking for. And the Bible as a whole speaks on this aspect.
God spoke also in types that speaks on this.
Here's a few examples;
When God destroyed Sodom, When was lot saved?
When he left?
To answer that we would have to ask, When was he declared righteous.
God told Abraham he wouldn't destroy it if he found so many righteous. But do you notice the Angels wouldn't do anything until Lot was out of there!!
Genesis 19:21-22.
So was Lot saved before or after Judgment?
Let's look at Noah's Ark in the same light. When was Noah declared righteous?
When the Ark doors opened and closed or when God told him to start building it? Genesis 6:8. (The ark is a type.)
Adam, Galatians 4:28 says "Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
When we look at the story of Abraham getting ready to offer up Isaac as a sacrifice, If you study that carefully you'll see Abraham had faith before he started his journey! In Genesis 22:7-8 Isaac asked Abraham where is the Lamb for the burnt offering?
Abraham said, God will provide himself a burt offering!!
Abraham knew Isaac was the Child God promised would be his heir and he would have to raise him from the dead.
We're children of promise also!
By faith we're joint heirs of the promise with Abraham. God keeps his covenants and promises.
I know this has been discussed before and we have different understandings, but just have a couple of thoughts to consider, I will not go over all this prophecy just the first of 9:27.
If I am correct, it is thought the 69th week ended when Jesus' ride into Jerusalem fulfilling Zech. 9:9. Dan. 9:26 says 69 weeks unto the Messiah, should we look over the 3.5 years from when Jesus was baptized and anointed with the Holy Spirit? Look at the multitude that met Him when He rode in, they knew who He was, He came for the lost sheep of Israel.
The antichrist will make a covenant with Israel. We go to Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: So here we have the last week/7 years and he is said to be the antichrist.
"He shall confirm the covenant with many", could he in this verse fit Jesus? Psalms 105:8-11Isaiah 42:6Isaiah 49:8Isaiah 49:6Romans 15:8Galatians 3:17Hebrews 13:20 I could list many more. The word confirm does not mean make, it shows us the covenant already existed. Confirm means to strengthen, to be stronger.
God made a covenant with Abraham and Abraham said God would provide Himself a Lamb, Genesis 22:7-8, was Jesus this Lamb, Isaiah 53:7John 1:29Revelation 5:6. This covenant is with many, Zechariah 2:11Isaiah 53:11Matthew 20:28Matthew 26:28Romans 5:15,19. Jesus was sent to confirm the promise/covenant made unto Abraham, Romans 15:8. Could Jesus be this he?
"In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" Sacrifice and Oblation, the first word is talking about the daily sacrifices, the Tamid, the morning and evening lamb the same time Jesus was on the cross 9 AM the first to 3 PM the last. Then the second word refers to all of the other offerings presented to the Lord.
Do you think the sacrifice and oblation was designed by God to completely cease upon the finished work of Jesus on the cross? Hebrews 9.
Eschatology is shaped around this topic. Also Dispensationalism and covenant theology is tested by this in a sense.
This is something I've been wanting to get to for some time now but I've been to busy.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Some say God is done with Israel and the unfulfilled old testament promises was fulfilled in the Church.
And there's others weren't comfortable with that and say those promises was made to the church not " The Nation Israel."
I would direct both of these groups to Isaiah 41:8-9.
"But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away. ( Seed in this verse is not used in the way it's used in Genesis 22:18.) The seed in Genesis 22:18 relates to a promise of Christ.
Seed in Isaiah 41:8 relates to a nation whom that promised seed would come.
You will see the interpretation of these verses moved around to shape or hold on to a certain espoused eschatology.
When it comes to identifying a people there's three groups as seen in 1 Corinthians 10:32. ( Jews, Gentiles and the Church. )
The rolls and promises to these groups are distinct. Understanding that is important. .
Alex1939...Billy its a picture of the offering up of Christ Jesus...That Ram caught caught in the thicket by his horns was symbolic of Christ and HIS CROWN OF THORNS...That resulted in the great Promise that there was gonna be a nation of Israel via Abraham's seed...B/C thou has done this thing i will multiply thy seed as the sands of the seas...That resulted in Jacob and the 12 tribes...
.....Thus the offering up of Christ is gonna result in an Israel of God the H.G. Plural as the stars of Heaven..That 2 nd Promise ... Gal 6:16 Which are spirits the H.G. PLURAL...That New Covenant in his blood...I will pour out of my spirit on ALL FLESH...If i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...And the 2 nd time the angel spoke to Abraham is when God swore by his very self Gen. 22:15 saying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus the sower and his seed the very seed of God to whom the word ( his seed ) came it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken...Thats y they refered to the H.G. as the Promise the H.G. is the multiplication the regeneration of very God in humanity via the seed of Jesus the word...His breath...That New Covenant in his blood from Calvary...When he had taken the cup he says this is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it.
.....But The Lord also says that i am the light of the world but the nite comes when no man can work...And the day of the Lord cannot come till there 1st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed which is mans carnal mind...Satan's seat is our carnal minds that is in war with the wheat the H.G...The kingdom of Heaven sufferes violence b/c of the Tares and the wheat...The dragon and the woman with Child.. Rev 12:5 kjv...But the woman with Child wins and is gonna rule all nations with his rod of iron the word of God that cannot be broken....That New Covenant...The book in the fathers right hand..k gbu
This is a good Bible trivia when my mom was back home from work isaw this on Google chrome so I got it because the one my mom downloaded is boring so I saw it and now I am now back on Bible trivia games with no music
It's interesting what is mentioned after: Genesis 22:19, Abraham dwelt in Beersheba, Sarah died in Kirijatharba Genesis 23:2, & Abraham came to mourn for Sarah.
Genesis 3:15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and ( HER SEED;) it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise ( HIS HEEL.)
Genesis 22:18.
Genesis 49:10.
The Passover Lamb of God ( Exodus 12:1-28)
Leviticus teaches the way to God is by sacrifice. JESUS!
Leviticus 17:11. For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
In the book of Leviticus you see a portrait of Christ and his work on the cross. When studying it.
It does well to go back and forward to new testament and present Christ. Especially Hebrews, That picture will paint itself.
Hiya Marsha...Plz let me give ya this bit of information....When Moses was on the back side of the desert in Exodus 3:15....God tells Moses that his name was Abraham Issac and Jacob and my memorial to all Generations....And this was after that Abraham had already offered up his only son Issac and Moses knew this very well....But this speaks volumes of a Kingdom coming that wd be a Father Son and Grandson type of kingdom just like Abraham Issac and Jacob where the son wd be offered up resulting in the multiplication of that son that wd be as the stars of Heaven in multitude saving this whole world.
......I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven in multitudes... Genesis 22:17....Thus an Israel of God fathered by a Trinity.
......If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me....An Israel of God that cannot sin...Simply b/c they are born of God.
.....Thus Abraham Issac and Jacob are truly a picture of the Godhead as a Trinity....3 Distinct beings but the 1 singular FATHER of Israel....And they became as the sands of the seas in multitudes....Just like Jesus is gonna be multiplied as the stars of Heaven in multitudes....Thus the sower and his precious seed...The words of that New Covenant...The Book that he wrote with his own blood.
.......Marsha if you read Isaiah 11 :1 ....You will see Isaiah who lived approx. 200 yrs after Jesse David and Solomon had long Died....Is still using this Jesse, David and Solomon kingdom as a kingdom coming in the last days When God sets his hand a 2 nd time to recover the remnant of his ppl...In Isaiah 11:11 kjv....Isaiah was still using this Father Son and Granson language for a kingdom coming again the last day....That 2 nd coming ...God wd not let David the son build that great Temple....God wd only let Solomon the Granson build the temple....B/c Solomon is symbolic of the 3 rd person the H.G. THAT IS GONNA BUILD THE TEMPLE IN MANS HEARTS....A greater then Solomon is here Jesus said....I will give them a new heart and etc.
PRAYER FOR FINANCIAL HELP AND STABILITY - In Reply - 2 years ago
Dear God, your word says that you will supply all of John's needs according to your riches in glory by Christ Jesus ( Philippians 4:19). I believe what you said. Your word does not return back void ( Isaiah 55:11), so if your word says it, you will do it.
God, if you care enough to know the number of hairs on our heads ( Luke 12:7), then you care for our finances too. So Lord, according to your word, give us our daily bread ( Matthew 6:11). Provide the financial resources to meet our earthly needs.
I thank you that the righteous are never forsaken, nor do their children beg for bread ( Psalm 37:25). You will not let us lack or go hungry. I thank you that every need is met and that there is no need among us ( Acts 4:34). You are Jehovah Jireh, the God who provides ( Genesis 22:14).
The prayers of a righteous man, availeth much. I ask in Jesus Name that You will provide for all of Johns needs throughout this crisis. Allow him to fellowship here until YOU return to Earth.
John, let your Church know you need to keep your phone. Target Stores have cheaper cell phones, which if you are a member of AARP, you get a discount with the service. Cricket which is of ATT, but is less expensive; why not Google them. Ask God for favor.
Another comment : Notice, Jesus was speaking to people who called themselves son's of Abraham, putting themselves as heirs to salvation. Genesis 22:18, Luke 16:14, in Luke 16:24-25, then Luke 16:27-31, there's many things Jesus is saying here. He's pointing out Salvation isn't sealed in birthright.
Nor those who think because they should be allowed in but live cruelly towards others: Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7,
He's also pointing to his own resurrection. Luke 16:31, & prophecying their denial of him even after that prophecy is fulfilled.
As I promised I would get back to you on your reply and questioning.
Let's start with the verses you gave as the promises that Israel forfeited over to the Church.
1. Genesis 12:1-3,
2. Genesis 12:7,
3. Genesis 13:14-17,
4. Genesis 15:5-7
5. Genesis 15:13-15,
6. Genesis 15:18-21,
7. Genesis 17:4-10,
8. Genesis 21:17-18
You stated, "Abraham and his seed pass to Jesus and His children. and you say according to
Galatians 3:16. Paul atributes these verses to Christ it is obvious that they are for Israel as well.
Let's look at Galatians 3:14-17.
If you notice in the link the promise/covenant was not a land covenant. Verses 2-8 you gave are all the land covenant.
Did you notice in Genesis 15:15-17. God told Abraham he would die before they would enter the land?
Look how Stephen put in Acts 7:4-5.
"and is is after God performed the covenant!!" So when will he inherit it? Hebrews11:8-10.
Now the 1st verse is a preview of both. The Promise his seed going to be given land. "Israel"
( and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. ) "Christ"
This is the only portion associated with Galatians 3:16.
Here is the covenant Paul is speaking of in Galatians.
( And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; AND THY SEED SHALL POSSESS THE GATE OF "HIS" ENEMIES;
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. )
Genesis 22:16-18.
The Gospel was preached even before there was a law to be broken.
Galatians 3:8.
" Important verse"
I removed "if it" because I believe it's in italics and shouldn't be there.
( Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet be confirmed, NO MAN DISANNULLETH, OR ADDETH THERETO.) Galatians 3:15.
The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram. And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
Genesis 22:21
Huz his firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram,
Numbers 23:7
And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel. [Moab is east of Israel]
1 Chronicles 1:17
The sons of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Meshech.
1 Chronicles 2:23
And he took Geshur, and Aram, with the towns of Jair, from them, with Kenath, and the towns thereof, even threescore cities. All these belonged to the sons of Machir the father of Gilead.
1 Chronicles 7:34
And the sons of Shamer; Ahi, and Rohgah, Jehubbah, and Aram.
Matthew 1:3-4
And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
Luke 3:33
Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
Aram also known as Aramea, was a historical region including several Aramean kingdoms covering much of the present-day Syria, southeastern Turkey, and parts of Lebanon and Iraq
Aram, Ancient country, Middle East, southwestern Asia. It extended eastward from the Anti-Lebanon Mountains to beyond the Euphrates River.
So the bands from Aram stopped raiding Israel's territory. Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria.
Today it's part of Syria Jordan Israel Lebanon.
You'll have to Google ancient Bible Maps to see the areas described.
Thanks GiGi. I could only learn this from referring to the Hebrew text (& translation), where in Genesis 2:4 the Hebrew clearly shows "in the day that the LORD (YHWH) God (Elohim) made the earth and the heavens". And not being a Hebrew reader, I can only read it as given, that it is 'God Who is YHWH', Who has done all these things & now communing with man & woman.
Given that the Genesis writer is generally accepted as being Moses (written between 1450 & 1410 BC), where he would have been given special grace to relate these events that he personally had not experienced, it could be that God was already showing him that 'special' connection to His people Israel, yet future, was already set in Adam & Eve.
Yet, would all those living pre-Moses (i.e. pre- Exodus 3:13,14), even know that 'special' Name? Exodus 6:3, says that the 'Name YHWH was not known to the patriarchs'. And yet we know that they were aware of it, like Abraham ( Genesis 15:7; Genesis 22:14), Jacob ( Genesis 27:20) & others knew that Name. But did they only know OF that Name but did not know Him fully, the full depth of understanding of the Name, YHWH? This debate probably still goes on. But when the children of Israel were in slavery in Egypt for over 400 years, that Name which should have been remembered & faithfully passed on, was forgotten, hence their need for an urgent reminder by Moses.
And "why should the Israelites listen to Moses & trust God?" There were four tokens of identification of this 'forgotten' God: the one of His Name ( Exodus 3:14, I AM: I've read that it is the inner meaning of YHWH - I Am the One Who Is); the one of the rod/serpent ( Exodus 4:1-5); the one of the leprous hand ( Exodus 4:6-8); & the one of the river of blood ( Exodus 4:9). I guess that any one or all of these signs should have confirmed Moses' call without any dispute & revealed to the Israelites unequivocally Who the One was Who had heard their cries & come to save them.
There is a lot here in this portion of scripture, for one you will see there is two groups here, Us/The Church and Israel.
Take notice of what we are being grafted into! Is it Israel? No, Israel is a branch broken off because of unbelief.
You see the concept in John and Mathews. I am the vine true/genuine vine in John 15:1-12. and Mathews 7:13-23. opposed to Israel in Jeremiah 2:21.
Notice Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Again, salvation wasn't to come by the law where the Gentiles were foreigners, the law was to show the world they needed a savior that's what God promised Abraham.
Genesis 22:18.
SO, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW?
Galatians 3:18-29.
This puts the verse you gave, " Galatians 3:29." in its proper perspective.
More References:
Romans 7:4-7.
Romans 7:8-13.
2 Corinthians 3:6-11.
You mentioned Romans 2:29. Let's look at it.
You should take it from Romans 2:11-29. to put it in its context.
Romans 2:11-16.
Notice Paul says, "FOR WHEN THE GENTILES, WHICH HAVE NOT THE LAW, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:" Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Even before the law was given, we had light in the world that bared witness of right and wrong! (The law put a death sentence on us. Romans 7:8-10.)
Continuing.
Romans 2:17-24.
Context: vs 17. "Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,"
This portion of scripture seems to label you as a hypocrite and blasphemer when you put your trust in being able to keep the law.
This chapter gives the infamous command for Abraham to sacrifice his only son; the son which encompassed so many promises of God already related to future descendants and seemingly end it through this action. If anything else; Abraham's maturity of faith was great enough to accept this without any attempt to change things or resist God. His commentary at least seemed to suggest with his son and the two young men assisting that he would return afterwards with Isaac. Whether this was for their benefit not to panic or his own assurance God would be faithful or both we are not told. To have enough faith to expect and trust the Lord to provide some last minute reprieve held out until the end. The gig was up once Isaac was bound; and it is noteworthy that he didn't protest either. Only a supernatural Resurrection is what some suggest they believed would save the day; as it turned out as the knife and physically initiated the killing he was stopped before it reached him; and the ram in the thickets was used instead. God's swearing to him reiterated blessings; and also multiplying his seed as the stars of heaven (v. 17) along with military victories promised. There was further provision already in the works when he learned of his brother Nahor's offspring through an unknown source.
Muslims, Christians and Jews alike serve the one true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Jews are under Isaac, Muslims are under Ishmael and Christians are under Jesus.
As it is written in the Hebrew Tanakh (Torah & writings of the prophets/Old Testament), Abraham had two sons; one of a bondwoman Hagar unto Ishmael and Isaac born of a free woman Sarah the bloodline unto the descendants of Abraham ( Genesis 21:12). God called as this bloodline for the Messiah but God did not forget Abraham's first son Ishmael. God Honors Ishmael and promised Abraham he will make Ishmael a great nation ( Genesis 21:13) which is long before God promised Moses to make the Jews a great nation ( Exodus 32:10).
When the Lord first made a covenant with Abraham ( Genesis 17) God said it will be an everlasting covenant with he that is born of the house and he that is bought with money as servant of the house ( Genesis 17:13) and the covenant is the circumcised flesh. All of Abrahams house was circumcised in Genesis 17. Isaac who the covenant unto the elect of God is through wasnt born yet and it was Ishmael who was circumcized.
There is only one God, the God of Abraham. Ishmael grew up with God And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer ( Genesis 21:20). Ismael had 12 princes ( Genesis 25:16) which are the bloodline of Arab (Muslim) tribes today.
The blood lineage of Prophet Muhammad directly descends from the tribe of Ishmael's second son Kedar ( Genesis 25:12-17). God told Abraham that Ishmael Shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren ( Genesis 16:12).
ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED IN ABRAHAM ( Genesis 22:18)!
Abraham's circumzied himself and his son Ishmael ( Genesis 17:26) and all the males of his house who were born into house or were bought as servants and circumcised them ( Genesis 17:23) grafting them all into the promise also!
Muslims, Christians and Jews alike serve the one true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Jews are under Isaac, Muslims are under Ishmael and Christians are under Jesus.
As it is written in the Hebrew Tanakh (Torah & writings of the prophets/Old Testament), Abraham had two sons; one of a bondwoman Hagar unto Ishmael and Isaac born of a free woman Sarah the bloodline unto the descendants of Abraham ( Genesis 21:12). God called as this bloodline for the Messiah but God did not forget Abraham's first son Ishmael. God Honors Ishmael and promised Abraham he will make Ishmael a great nation ( Genesis 21:13) which is long before God promised Moses to make the Jews a great nation ( Exodus 32:10).
When the Lord first made a covenant with Abraham ( Genesis 17) God said it will be an everlasting covenant with he that is born of the house and he that is bought with money as servant of the house ( Genesis 17:13) and the covenant is the circumcised flesh. All of Abrahams house was circumcised in Genesis 17. Isaac who the covenant unto the elect of God is through wasnt born yet and it was Ishmael who was circumcized.
There is only one God, the God of Abraham. Ishmael grew up with God And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer ( Genesis 21:20). Ismael had 12 princes ( Genesis 25:16) which are the bloodline of Arab (Muslim) tribes today.
The blood lineage of Prophet Muhammad directly descends from the tribe of Ishmael's second son Kedar ( Genesis 25:12-17). God told Abraham that Ishmael Shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren ( Genesis 16:12).
Ishmael's name means: God has heard thy affliction ( Genesis 16:11).
Abraham did not only marry Hagar who bare Ishmael and Sarah who bare Isaac but Abraham also took another wife Keturah whom he married after Sarah died ( Genesis 25:1) and she bare him six sons ( Genesis 25:2). With Hagar, Sarah and Keturah ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED IN ABRAHAM ( Genesis 22:18)!
I'd keep reading. Seek the truth and open yourself to learn who God really is and what He will reveal to you. Pray for wisdom and understanding. I wouldn't stop after one section and make conclusions before you take the entire context of the Bible into account. There are logical explanations for your questions.
For your food question if you continued reading you would have naturally found Acts 10. There is much more info in the New Testament about what law applies today, because there is moral law, civil law, and ceremonial law. The latter two were specific to Israelites. You would also read a verse like this: Matthew 5:17-20
Regarding your other questions you would eventually read verses like these:
God was testing Abraham's faith in asking for him to sacrifice Isaac. God had communicated to Abraham at some time that He could raise up what has died, as Hebrews11:17-19 says Abraham believed that. So, since Abraham knew God could raise the dead, God was testing Him to see if he would believe it for his son, Isaac.
It is easy to believe things in theory, but here God wants to show Abraham if he actually believes in the resurrection power of God in regards to his only son who had promises attached to Isaac's survival. God knew what that Abraham would willingly offer Isaac, but Abraham (and Isaac) needed to find out if their faith was strong enough for such a test.
If this were me,I would have pleaded with God to take me for a sacrifice instead of my son ,and said who will bring all the sands of the future people if my son is not here? It was a test of his faithfulness,and when Sodom and Gomorah were destroyed it showed that you can question God ,and plead with him for others that are righteous.Thank God an angel was sent to offer a sacrifice before anything happened.
Issac was the child of promise and heir of the blessings promised to Abraham and by which the seed would come and by which all the world would be blessed.
Genesis 15:5-6.
Genesis 21:12.
( And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.)
Now if God was going to keep his promise "WHICH HE ALWAYS DO, BECAUSE GOD CAN'T LIE" Abraham would have to believe in something else. THE RESURRECTION!!
Hebrews 11:17-19. By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; FROM WHENCE ALSO HE RECEIVED HIM IN A FIGURE.
I believe this is where the Gospel is preached to Abraham.
Galatians 3:8.
Genesis 22:14. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh: as it is said to this day, IN THE MOUNT OF THE LORD IT SHALL BE SEEN.
I believe the Lord Jesus was offered up on that same hill.
Part 8. J Vernon Mcgee. (Paul and James Use Abraham to Illustrate.)
So Paul's example has to do with the early part of Abraham's life. When James presents his argument, we find that he deals with the end of Abraham's life and the offering of Isaac upon the altar. This was the last appearance of God to this man, and James says, in essence, "Now here is the example of what faith has done in this man's life - it has brought him to make the supreme sacrifice."
Look again at James 2:21: "Was not Abraham, our father, justified by works, when he had offered Isaac, his son, upon the altar?" Now in what way does the offering of Isaac reveal the fact that Abraham was justified by works? To see this clearly, we need to notice some very familiar facts. These interesting incidents took place toward the end of the life of Abraham when God called upon him to make the great sacrifice - which was the supreme crisis in his life.
God's Test - Genesis 22.
"And it came to pass after these things, that God did test Abraham" ( Genesis 22:1). The King James Version uses the word "tempt," but the New Scofield Reference Bible changes it to "test." I know that it's the same Greek word that you will find for "tempt," but you will also recall that James says,
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man. ( James 1:13)
Now when a man is tempted with evil, it is never God tempting him; it is Satan. God does not tempt men with evil; He tempts them with the good. He tests men in that sense. God's tests always lead to discipline and development of Christian character and life, while the tests and temptations of Satan always lead to the destruction of the life of the individual. Here we see that Abraham is being tested of God for his own good.
See Part 9. God's Test - Genesis 22 continued.
Part 3
ABRAHAM.
Genesis 22:1-18.
Vs 14-18. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh, as it is said to this day, In the mount of the LORD it shall be seen. And the angel of the LORD called unto Abraham out of heaven the second time, And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD; for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son; That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the seashore; and thy seed shall possess the gate of his enemies; And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed, because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Was Abraham justified by works? Yes.
Scripture says that he was justified by works. ( James 2:21-24)
Do we have here a contradiction to the apostle Paul? Did not Paul say that Abraham was justified by faith - not by works? Paul makes a very specific statement in Romans:
"For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath something of which to glory, but not before God. ( Romans 4:2)
Then over in Galatians 3:6 we read, "Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."
Is Paul and James writings in conflict on this point? NO!
Here is an article by J Vernon Mcgee explaining this Paradox.
Paul vs. James in the Use of Words.
May I hasten to state that Paul and James do not conflict at all. They are in entire agreement. As someone has said, "Paul and James do not stand face to face, fighting against each other, but they stand back to back fighting opposite foes." The whole problem lies in the fact that they use the same words, but with a different meaning altogether. They are discussing the same subject from different viewpoints. This you will find upon examining the context.
See Part 4.
J Vernon Mcgee. (Paul vs. James in the Use of Words)
Part 2.
YHWH / YAHWEH / JEHOVAH [yah-way / ji-hoh-veh]: "LORD" ( Deuteronomy 6:4; Daniel 9:14) - strictly speaking, the only proper name for God. Translated in English Bibles "LORD" (all capitals) to distinguish it from Adonai, "Lord." The revelation of the name is given to Moses "I Am who I Am" ( Exodus 3:14). This name specifies an immediacy, a presence. Yahweh is present, accessible, near to those who call on Him for deliverance ( Psalm 107:13), forgiveness ( Psalm 25:11) and guidance ( Psalm 31:3).
YAHWEH-JIREH [yah-way-ji-reh]: "The Lord Will Provide" ( Genesis 22:14) - the name memorialized by Abraham when God provided the ram to be sacrificed in place of Isaac.
YAHWEH-RAPHA [yah-way-raw-faw]: "The Lord Who Heals" ( Exodus 15:26) - "I am Jehovah who heals you" both in body and soul. In body, by preserving from and curing diseases, and in soul, by pardoning iniquities.
YAHWEH-NISSI [yah-way-nee-see]: "The Lord Our Banner" ( Exodus 17:15), where banner is understood to be a rallying place. This name commemorates the desert victory over the Amalekites in Exodus 17.
YAHWEH-M'KADDESH [yah-way-meh-kad-esh]: "The Lord Who Sanctifies, Makes Holy" ( Leviticus 20:8; Ezekiel 37:28) - God makes it clear that He alone, not the law, can cleanse His people and make them holy.
YAHWEH-SHALOM [yah-way-shah-lohm]: "The Lord Our Peace" ( Judges 6:24) - the name given by Gideon to the altar he built after the Angel of the Lord assured him he would not die as he thought he would after seeing Him.
YAHWEH-ELOHIM [yah-way-el-oh-him]: "LORD God" ( Genesis 2:4; Psalm 59:5) - a combination of God's unique name YHWH and the generic word for "God" signifying that He is the Lord who is God.
See Part 3.
Romans 4:19-25.
And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
He staggered not at the PROMISE of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;
And being fully persuaded that, what he had PROMISED, he was able also to perform.
And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.
NOW IT WAS NOT WRITTEN FOR HIS SAKE ALONE, that it was imputed to him;
BUT FOR US ALSO, TO WHOM IT SHALL BE IMPUTED, if we BELIEVE ON HIM THAT RAISED UP JESUS OUR LORD FROM THE DEAD;
Who was delivered for OUR OFFENCES, and was raised again for OUR JUSTIFICATION.
Galatians 4:28
Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of PROMISE.
Galatians 3:29
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Galatians 3:16-19.
Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by PROMISE.
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
CONCLUSION
Galatians 3:27-29.
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Genesis 22:18.
God bless.
1. End of Dispensation: Judgment of men
2. Signs and Wonders
3. Element of fire
4, Blessings and cursings
5. Separation of God's people
6. Be fruitful and multiply
EDEN. God sent out man after what is known as the "Age of Innocence"; possibly that involved an implied covenant with Adam
to care for the earth; and the first marriage. Man would be mortal and suffer on earth; and driven out from the Garden
and the Tree of Life. The Serpent was cursed; and by implication Satan. The death blow was promised in Genesis 3:15 along
with God's final victory. Judgment came on Cain and would affect his descendants in Genesis 4:15.
NOAH. God made a covenant symbolized by the rainbow after destroying all but Noah and his family (8 people). He promised never to destroy the earth by water again. The animals were part of the plan for preservation and interestingly part of the
covenant promises ( Gen. 9:12). He also was told to be fruitful and multiply anong with his sons( Gen. 9:1); compare with Genesis 1:28). Genesis 10:15-18 had Ham's one son cursed (no time to elaborate here).
ABRAHAM: Sent from Ur of the Chaldees; and given promises through fire in Genesis 15:17-20 when asleep (note Adam's
deep sleep in Genesis 2:21). He was promised miraculously to have innumerable offspring in Genesis 22:17. Judgment
came on Sodom in Genesis 18; Abraham's relative and family.
EXODUS/DEUTERONOMY: God at Horeb appears in fire and smoke; and great sounds to produce fear of His Name; then promises to bring them fully out of the promised land. Ten Commandments "seal the deal" as it was being a peculiar people.
God eventually purged out the rebels; only Caleb and Joseph made it to the promised land of that generation along with children.
BOOK OF ACTS: Pentecost brings about Church Age and New Covenant with fire; signs and wonders. God judges Israel AD 70; final judgment promised later.
.......That was the great PROMISE..... Genesis 22:17......I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven.....Thus multiplication of his precious seed in humanity.....Resulting in a Baby Christ born in us sinners who cd not keep the law in a Dream.....And this Child is born of God in us and he cannot sin.....Thus fulfilling the law.....The 2 nd facet is truly multiplication of his seed in humanity...Thus the sower and his precious seed.....When a seed dies it multiplies.....He told the Greeks unless a seed dies it abides alone...Just 1 seed ....but if it dies it will bring forth much fruit many Christ.....Everybody is gonna get a seed thus everybody is gonna birth him.....The Greeks wanted to see him.....The whole world is gonna see him b/c of what he did at Calvary that New Covenant in his blood....Remember God Almighty was so passionate about this Promise of multiplication that he swore by his very self...Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came ( the living word) it made them Gods and the scriptures cannot be broken....Living scriptures his offspring born in us via his seed.....Thats y the woman is giving birth ,its simply a picture of multiplication of his seed.....And thats y the dragon satan wants to kill the woman and her CHILD...Her Child is gonna reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement....Which is the spirit of truth Jesus spoke of.
Thanks for your response.
I don't think you will find it worded the way you worded it in your post with the actual word "Immediately".
But salvation is immediate when one truly believes and throughout the scripture it teaches that.
Actually in your original post you mentioned "some saying this before judgment".
I believe in your past posts you believes no one knows they're saved until Judgment.
The response from most of us is that a Christian is not part of that Judgment.
However we won't get into that here.
Here's what I will like to declare yo you.
I honestly believe there has been verses given that declares what you are looking for. And the Bible as a whole speaks on this aspect.
God spoke also in types that speaks on this.
Here's a few examples;
When God destroyed Sodom, When was lot saved?
When he left?
To answer that we would have to ask, When was he declared righteous.
God told Abraham he wouldn't destroy it if he found so many righteous. But do you notice the Angels wouldn't do anything until Lot was out of there!!
Genesis 19:21-22.
So was Lot saved before or after Judgment?
Let's look at Noah's Ark in the same light. When was Noah declared righteous?
When the Ark doors opened and closed or when God told him to start building it? Genesis 6:8. (The ark is a type.)
Adam, Galatians 4:28 says "Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
When we look at the story of Abraham getting ready to offer up Isaac as a sacrifice, If you study that carefully you'll see Abraham had faith before he started his journey! In Genesis 22:7-8 Isaac asked Abraham where is the Lamb for the burnt offering?
Abraham said, God will provide himself a burt offering!!
Abraham knew Isaac was the Child God promised would be his heir and he would have to raise him from the dead.
We're children of promise also!
By faith we're joint heirs of the promise with Abraham. God keeps his covenants and promises.
We're saved now.
God bless.
I know this has been discussed before and we have different understandings, but just have a couple of thoughts to consider, I will not go over all this prophecy just the first of 9:27.
If I am correct, it is thought the 69th week ended when Jesus' ride into Jerusalem fulfilling Zech. 9:9. Dan. 9:26 says 69 weeks unto the Messiah, should we look over the 3.5 years from when Jesus was baptized and anointed with the Holy Spirit? Look at the multitude that met Him when He rode in, they knew who He was, He came for the lost sheep of Israel.
The antichrist will make a covenant with Israel. We go to Dan. 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: So here we have the last week/7 years and he is said to be the antichrist.
"He shall confirm the covenant with many", could he in this verse fit Jesus? Psalms 105:8-11 Isaiah 42:6 Isaiah 49:8 Isaiah 49:6 Romans 15:8 Galatians 3:17 Hebrews 13:20 I could list many more. The word confirm does not mean make, it shows us the covenant already existed. Confirm means to strengthen, to be stronger.
God made a covenant with Abraham and Abraham said God would provide Himself a Lamb, Genesis 22:7-8, was Jesus this Lamb, Isaiah 53:7 John 1:29 Revelation 5:6. This covenant is with many, Zechariah 2:11 Isaiah 53:11 Matthew 20:28 Matthew 26:28 Romans 5:15,19. Jesus was sent to confirm the promise/covenant made unto Abraham, Romans 15:8. Could Jesus be this he?
"In the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease" Sacrifice and Oblation, the first word is talking about the daily sacrifices, the Tamid, the morning and evening lamb the same time Jesus was on the cross 9 AM the first to 3 PM the last. Then the second word refers to all of the other offerings presented to the Lord.
Do you think the sacrifice and oblation was designed by God to completely cease upon the finished work of Jesus on the cross? Hebrews 9.
God bless,
RLW
That's a great question.
Eschatology is shaped around this topic. Also Dispensationalism and covenant theology is tested by this in a sense.
This is something I've been wanting to get to for some time now but I've been to busy.
Thanks for bringing this up.
Some say God is done with Israel and the unfulfilled old testament promises was fulfilled in the Church.
And there's others weren't comfortable with that and say those promises was made to the church not " The Nation Israel."
I would direct both of these groups to Isaiah 41:8-9.
"But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend.
Thou whom I have taken from the ends of the earth, and called thee from the chief men thereof, and said unto thee, Thou art my servant; I have chosen thee, and not cast thee away. ( Seed in this verse is not used in the way it's used in Genesis 22:18.) The seed in Genesis 22:18 relates to a promise of Christ.
Seed in Isaiah 41:8 relates to a nation whom that promised seed would come.
You will see the interpretation of these verses moved around to shape or hold on to a certain espoused eschatology.
When it comes to identifying a people there's three groups as seen in 1 Corinthians 10:32. ( Jews, Gentiles and the Church. )
The rolls and promises to these groups are distinct. Understanding that is important. .
Taking Gods promises literally is also important.
More on this later.
God bless.
.....Thus the offering up of Christ is gonna result in an Israel of God the H.G. Plural as the stars of Heaven..That 2 nd Promise ... Gal 6:16 Which are spirits the H.G. PLURAL...That New Covenant in his blood...I will pour out of my spirit on ALL FLESH...If i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...And the 2 nd time the angel spoke to Abraham is when God swore by his very self Gen. 22:15 saying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven...Thus the sower and his seed the very seed of God to whom the word ( his seed ) came it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken...Thats y they refered to the H.G. as the Promise the H.G. is the multiplication the regeneration of very God in humanity via the seed of Jesus the word...His breath...That New Covenant in his blood from Calvary...When he had taken the cup he says this is the New Covenant in my blood drink ye all of it.
.....But The Lord also says that i am the light of the world but the nite comes when no man can work...And the day of the Lord cannot come till there 1st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed which is mans carnal mind...Satan's seat is our carnal minds that is in war with the wheat the H.G...The kingdom of Heaven sufferes violence b/c of the Tares and the wheat...The dragon and the woman with Child.. Rev 12:5 kjv...But the woman with Child wins and is gonna rule all nations with his rod of iron the word of God that cannot be broken....That New Covenant...The book in the fathers right hand..k gbu
It's interesting what is mentioned after: Genesis 22:19, Abraham dwelt in Beersheba, Sarah died in Kirijatharba Genesis 23:2, & Abraham came to mourn for Sarah.
Here is just a few of many.
Genesis 3:15. And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and ( HER SEED;) it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise ( HIS HEEL.)
Genesis 22:18.
Genesis 49:10.
The Passover Lamb of God ( Exodus 12:1-28)
Leviticus teaches the way to God is by sacrifice. JESUS!
Leviticus 17:11. For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul.
In the book of Leviticus you see a portrait of Christ and his work on the cross. When studying it.
It does well to go back and forward to new testament and present Christ. Especially Hebrews, That picture will paint itself.
Deuteronomy 18:15.
Psalms 22.
Isaiah 7:14.
Isaiah 9:6-7.
Micah 5:2.
Daniel 9:25-26.
Malachi 3:1.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
......I will multiply thy seed as the stars of Heaven in multitudes... Genesis 22:17....Thus an Israel of God fathered by a Trinity.
......If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me....An Israel of God that cannot sin...Simply b/c they are born of God.
.....Thus Abraham Issac and Jacob are truly a picture of the Godhead as a Trinity....3 Distinct beings but the 1 singular FATHER of Israel....And they became as the sands of the seas in multitudes....Just like Jesus is gonna be multiplied as the stars of Heaven in multitudes....Thus the sower and his precious seed...The words of that New Covenant...The Book that he wrote with his own blood.
.......Marsha if you read Isaiah 11 :1 ....You will see Isaiah who lived approx. 200 yrs after Jesse David and Solomon had long Died....Is still using this Jesse, David and Solomon kingdom as a kingdom coming in the last days When God sets his hand a 2 nd time to recover the remnant of his ppl...In Isaiah 11:11 kjv....Isaiah was still using this Father Son and Granson language for a kingdom coming again the last day....That 2 nd coming ...God wd not let David the son build that great Temple....God wd only let Solomon the Granson build the temple....B/c Solomon is symbolic of the 3 rd person the H.G. THAT IS GONNA BUILD THE TEMPLE IN MANS HEARTS....A greater then Solomon is here Jesus said....I will give them a new heart and etc.
God, if you care enough to know the number of hairs on our heads ( Luke 12:7), then you care for our finances too. So Lord, according to your word, give us our daily bread ( Matthew 6:11). Provide the financial resources to meet our earthly needs.
I thank you that the righteous are never forsaken, nor do their children beg for bread ( Psalm 37:25). You will not let us lack or go hungry. I thank you that every need is met and that there is no need among us ( Acts 4:34). You are Jehovah Jireh, the God who provides ( Genesis 22:14).
The prayers of a righteous man, availeth much. I ask in Jesus Name that You will provide for all of Johns needs throughout this crisis. Allow him to fellowship here until YOU return to Earth.
John, let your Church know you need to keep your phone. Target Stores have cheaper cell phones, which if you are a member of AARP, you get a discount with the service. Cricket which is of ATT, but is less expensive; why not Google them. Ask God for favor.
I love you in Jesus, Streetpreacher
Another comment : Notice, Jesus was speaking to people who called themselves son's of Abraham, putting themselves as heirs to salvation. Genesis 22:18, Luke 16:14, in Luke 16:24-25, then Luke 16:27-31, there's many things Jesus is saying here. He's pointing out Salvation isn't sealed in birthright.
Nor those who think because they should be allowed in but live cruelly towards others: Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7,
He's also pointing to his own resurrection. Luke 16:31, & prophecying their denial of him even after that prophecy is fulfilled.
Notice also: John 3:12, Isaiah 55:9,
Hopefully these are also helpful
Part 1
As I promised I would get back to you on your reply and questioning.
Let's start with the verses you gave as the promises that Israel forfeited over to the Church.
1. Genesis 12:1-3,
2. Genesis 12:7,
3. Genesis 13:14-17,
4. Genesis 15:5-7
5. Genesis 15:13-15,
6. Genesis 15:18-21,
7. Genesis 17:4-10,
8. Genesis 21:17-18
You stated, "Abraham and his seed pass to Jesus and His children. and you say according to
Galatians 3:16. Paul atributes these verses to Christ it is obvious that they are for Israel as well.
Let's look at Galatians 3:14-17.
If you notice in the link the promise/covenant was not a land covenant. Verses 2-8 you gave are all the land covenant.
Did you notice in Genesis 15:15-17. God told Abraham he would die before they would enter the land?
Look how Stephen put in Acts 7:4-5.
"and is is after God performed the covenant!!" So when will he inherit it? Hebrews11:8-10.
Now the 1st verse is a preview of both. The Promise his seed going to be given land. "Israel"
( and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. ) "Christ"
This is the only portion associated with Galatians 3:16.
Here is the covenant Paul is speaking of in Galatians.
( And said, By myself have I sworn, saith the LORD, for because thou hast done this thing, and hast not withheld thy son, thine only son:
That in blessing I will bless thee, and in multiplying I will multiply thy seed as the stars of the heaven, and as the sand which is upon the sea shore; AND THY SEED SHALL POSSESS THE GATE OF "HIS" ENEMIES;
And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice. )
Genesis 22:16-18.
The Gospel was preached even before there was a law to be broken.
Galatians 3:8.
" Important verse"
I removed "if it" because I believe it's in italics and shouldn't be there.
( Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet be confirmed, NO MAN DISANNULLETH, OR ADDETH THERETO.) Galatians 3:15.
The children of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram. And the children of Aram; Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Mash.
Genesis 22:21
Huz his firstborn, and Buz his brother, and Kemuel the father of Aram,
Numbers 23:7
And he took up his parable, and said, Balak the king of Moab hath brought me from Aram, out of the mountains of the east, saying, Come, curse me Jacob, and come, defy Israel. [Moab is east of Israel]
1 Chronicles 1:17
The sons of Shem; Elam, and Asshur, and Arphaxad, and Lud, and Aram, and Uz, and Hul, and Gether, and Meshech.
1 Chronicles 2:23
And he took Geshur, and Aram, with the towns of Jair, from them, with Kenath, and the towns thereof, even threescore cities. All these belonged to the sons of Machir the father of Gilead.
1 Chronicles 7:34
And the sons of Shamer; Ahi, and Rohgah, Jehubbah, and Aram.
Matthew 1:3-4
And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar; and Phares begat Esrom; and Esrom begat Aram;
And Aram begat Aminadab; and Aminadab begat Naasson; and Naasson begat Salmon;
Luke 3:33
Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
Aram also known as Aramea, was a historical region including several Aramean kingdoms covering much of the present-day Syria, southeastern Turkey, and parts of Lebanon and Iraq
Aram, Ancient country, Middle East, southwestern Asia. It extended eastward from the Anti-Lebanon Mountains to beyond the Euphrates River.
So the bands from Aram stopped raiding Israel's territory. Some time later, Ben-Hadad king of Aram mobilized his entire army and marched up and laid siege to Samaria.
Today it's part of Syria Jordan Israel Lebanon.
You'll have to Google ancient Bible Maps to see the areas described.
Given that the Genesis writer is generally accepted as being Moses (written between 1450 & 1410 BC), where he would have been given special grace to relate these events that he personally had not experienced, it could be that God was already showing him that 'special' connection to His people Israel, yet future, was already set in Adam & Eve.
Yet, would all those living pre-Moses (i.e. pre- Exodus 3:13,14), even know that 'special' Name? Exodus 6:3, says that the 'Name YHWH was not known to the patriarchs'. And yet we know that they were aware of it, like Abraham ( Genesis 15:7; Genesis 22:14), Jacob ( Genesis 27:20) & others knew that Name. But did they only know OF that Name but did not know Him fully, the full depth of understanding of the Name, YHWH? This debate probably still goes on. But when the children of Israel were in slavery in Egypt for over 400 years, that Name which should have been remembered & faithfully passed on, was forgotten, hence their need for an urgent reminder by Moses.
And "why should the Israelites listen to Moses & trust God?" There were four tokens of identification of this 'forgotten' God: the one of His Name ( Exodus 3:14, I AM: I've read that it is the inner meaning of YHWH - I Am the One Who Is); the one of the rod/serpent ( Exodus 4:1-5); the one of the leprous hand ( Exodus 4:6-8); & the one of the river of blood ( Exodus 4:9). I guess that any one or all of these signs should have confirmed Moses' call without any dispute & revealed to the Israelites unequivocally Who the One was Who had heard their cries & come to save them.
Part 2.
Romans 11:10-32.
There is a lot here in this portion of scripture, for one you will see there is two groups here, Us/The Church and Israel.
Take notice of what we are being grafted into! Is it Israel? No, Israel is a branch broken off because of unbelief.
You see the concept in John and Mathews. I am the vine true/genuine vine in John 15:1-12. and Mathews 7:13-23. opposed to Israel in Jeremiah 2:21.
Notice Romans 11:25
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Again, salvation wasn't to come by the law where the Gentiles were foreigners, the law was to show the world they needed a savior that's what God promised Abraham.
Genesis 22:18.
SO, WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW?
Galatians 3:18-29.
This puts the verse you gave, " Galatians 3:29." in its proper perspective.
More References:
Romans 7:4-7.
Romans 7:8-13.
2 Corinthians 3:6-11.
You mentioned Romans 2:29. Let's look at it.
You should take it from Romans 2:11-29. to put it in its context.
Romans 2:11-16.
Notice Paul says, "FOR WHEN THE GENTILES, WHICH HAVE NOT THE LAW, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:" Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)
Even before the law was given, we had light in the world that bared witness of right and wrong! (The law put a death sentence on us. Romans 7:8-10.)
Continuing.
Romans 2:17-24.
Context: vs 17. "Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God,"
This portion of scripture seems to label you as a hypocrite and blasphemer when you put your trust in being able to keep the law.
See verses 24-29 in Part 3.
Muslims, Christians and Jews alike serve the one true God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
Jews are under Isaac, Muslims are under Ishmael and Christians are under Jesus.
As it is written in the Hebrew Tanakh (Torah & writings of the prophets/Old Testament), Abraham had two sons; one of a bondwoman Hagar unto Ishmael and Isaac born of a free woman Sarah the bloodline unto the descendants of Abraham ( Genesis 21:12). God called as this bloodline for the Messiah but God did not forget Abraham's first son Ishmael. God Honors Ishmael and promised Abraham he will make Ishmael a great nation ( Genesis 21:13) which is long before God promised Moses to make the Jews a great nation ( Exodus 32:10).
When the Lord first made a covenant with Abraham ( Genesis 17) God said it will be an everlasting covenant with he that is born of the house and he that is bought with money as servant of the house ( Genesis 17:13) and the covenant is the circumcised flesh. All of Abrahams house was circumcised in Genesis 17. Isaac who the covenant unto the elect of God is through wasnt born yet and it was Ishmael who was circumcized.
There is only one God, the God of Abraham. Ishmael grew up with God And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer ( Genesis 21:20). Ismael had 12 princes ( Genesis 25:16) which are the bloodline of Arab (Muslim) tribes today.
The blood lineage of Prophet Muhammad directly descends from the tribe of Ishmael's second son Kedar ( Genesis 25:12-17). God told Abraham that Ishmael Shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren ( Genesis 16:12).
ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED IN ABRAHAM ( Genesis 22:18)!
Abraham's circumzied himself and his son Ishmael ( Genesis 17:26) and all the males of his house who were born into house or were bought as servants and circumcised them ( Genesis 17:23) grafting them all into the promise also!
Jews are under Isaac, Muslims are under Ishmael and Christians are under Jesus.
As it is written in the Hebrew Tanakh (Torah & writings of the prophets/Old Testament), Abraham had two sons; one of a bondwoman Hagar unto Ishmael and Isaac born of a free woman Sarah the bloodline unto the descendants of Abraham ( Genesis 21:12). God called as this bloodline for the Messiah but God did not forget Abraham's first son Ishmael. God Honors Ishmael and promised Abraham he will make Ishmael a great nation ( Genesis 21:13) which is long before God promised Moses to make the Jews a great nation ( Exodus 32:10).
When the Lord first made a covenant with Abraham ( Genesis 17) God said it will be an everlasting covenant with he that is born of the house and he that is bought with money as servant of the house ( Genesis 17:13) and the covenant is the circumcised flesh. All of Abrahams house was circumcised in Genesis 17. Isaac who the covenant unto the elect of God is through wasnt born yet and it was Ishmael who was circumcized.
There is only one God, the God of Abraham. Ishmael grew up with God And God was with the lad; and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became an archer ( Genesis 21:20). Ismael had 12 princes ( Genesis 25:16) which are the bloodline of Arab (Muslim) tribes today.
The blood lineage of Prophet Muhammad directly descends from the tribe of Ishmael's second son Kedar ( Genesis 25:12-17). God told Abraham that Ishmael Shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren ( Genesis 16:12).
Ishmael's name means: God has heard thy affliction ( Genesis 16:11).
Abraham did not only marry Hagar who bare Ishmael and Sarah who bare Isaac but Abraham also took another wife Keturah whom he married after Sarah died ( Genesis 25:1) and she bare him six sons ( Genesis 25:2). With Hagar, Sarah and Keturah ALL THE NATIONS OF THE WORLD WILL BE BLESSED IN ABRAHAM ( Genesis 22:18)!
I'd keep reading. Seek the truth and open yourself to learn who God really is and what He will reveal to you. Pray for wisdom and understanding. I wouldn't stop after one section and make conclusions before you take the entire context of the Bible into account. There are logical explanations for your questions.
For your food question if you continued reading you would have naturally found Acts 10. There is much more info in the New Testament about what law applies today, because there is moral law, civil law, and ceremonial law. The latter two were specific to Israelites. You would also read a verse like this: Matthew 5:17-20
Regarding your other questions you would eventually read verses like these:
1 John 5:7-8
John 1:1
Genesis 1:26
Genesis 11:6-7
John 10:30
John 8:19
Philippians 2:5-8
2 Corinthians 5:19
John 1:3
Matthew 28:19
1 Peter 1:2
2 Corinthians 13:14
Deuteronomy 6:4
John 14:10
John 20:28
1 John 2:22-24
Isaiah 7:14
Matthew 1:23-25
Hebrews 1:8
Isaiah 44:6
John 1:18
Some OT prophesy of Jesus to come:
Isaiah 7:14
Psalms 72:9-10
Micah 5:2
Numbers 24:17
Genesis 22:18
God bless...
God was testing Abraham's faith in asking for him to sacrifice Isaac. God had communicated to Abraham at some time that He could raise up what has died, as Hebrews11:17-19 says Abraham believed that. So, since Abraham knew God could raise the dead, God was testing Him to see if he would believe it for his son, Isaac.
It is easy to believe things in theory, but here God wants to show Abraham if he actually believes in the resurrection power of God in regards to his only son who had promises attached to Isaac's survival. God knew what that Abraham would willingly offer Isaac, but Abraham (and Isaac) needed to find out if their faith was strong enough for such a test.
the record is in Judges chapter 11 starting in verse 23 Jephthah who's heart was for Gods People God put his
spirit upon Jephthah and he vowed a vow that whoever comes out of his home when he defeats the children
of Ammon shall surely be the lord's and I will offer it up for a burn't sacrifice. Verse 32+33 God delivers them
and verse 34 jephthah goes to his house and His daughter is first one to come out and she was his only daughter.
A burn't sacrifice can also mean that a person has been committed to serving God in the temple or in our day and
time single in the service of God the rest of there lives! In this case a man gave His word to God and if you make
that level of commitment don't break it, i.e. say it and mean it. Verse 35 through 40 explain the heart of the
daughter and how she prepared to commit herself in the temple the rest of her life! The context of this starts
In verse 1 of chapter 11. In our culture words don't mean a lot that's why we have attorneys but in eastern culture
what you vowed you did if you were a just man.
The account is in Genesis 22:1-18.
It's a lot to this story than what meets the Eye.
Issac was the child of promise and heir of the blessings promised to Abraham and by which the seed would come and by which all the world would be blessed.
Genesis 15:5-6.
Genesis 21:12.
( And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.)
Now if God was going to keep his promise "WHICH HE ALWAYS DO, BECAUSE GOD CAN'T LIE" Abraham would have to believe in something else. THE RESURRECTION!!
Hebrews 11:17-19. By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; FROM WHENCE ALSO HE RECEIVED HIM IN A FIGURE.
I believe this is where the Gospel is preached to Abraham.
Galatians 3:8.
Genesis 22:14. And Abraham called the name of that place Jehovah-jireh: as it is said to this day, IN THE MOUNT OF THE LORD IT SHALL BE SEEN.
I believe the Lord Jesus was offered up on that same hill.
I hope this helps.
God bless.