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  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Sorry Mishael, I only know the Hebrew word of Woman is 'ishshah', and it doesn't seem to have any other meaning, other than Woman. However, in Genesis 2:23, Adam said, "she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man", so that Hebrew word may have its origin in a 'new person being formed from a man's body', but not referred to in the normal usage of the word.
  • Carleton - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Thinking of verse 24 in the second chapter of Genesis. Marriage in the Lord is a blessing as two become one.

    :)
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    I was taught that the word, Woman, means 'man with a womb'. It has nothing to do with transgender heresies.

    Maybe Chris will know the language used in that. It was something I heard at church.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Job 1 - 2 years ago
    Genesis 1:26,27, Genesis 2:7-9, Genesis 3:13-15, = Romans 16:20, Isaiah 53, notice Isaiah 53:10, Psalms 41:9, John 13:18, ( Gen. 3:15 )

    Hidden gems of Prophetic mystery until Jesus fulfilled many. Luke 24, Luke 24:27, Revelation 12:4-11, Revelation 20,

    I recommend reading the Bible & prayer, the movies aren't fully accurate, they seem to focus on the art, not Truth
  • Evanglist Mel - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    the first preacher after Jesus rose from the dead was a woman...Mary Magdalene, when he told her to go and tell his disciples that he has risen. This is what we preach and teach to the sinners, that he has risen for you and me.
  • ELB - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Angeles: It is necessary to understand that God's TRUTHS are HIDDEN inside the scriptures.

    And man CANNOT understand the TRUTH of GOD'S WORD without being given the KEY TO THE KINGDOM.

    That KEY to the KINGDOM is the Holy Ghost, without him revealing the scriptures to you, you cannot understand all the parables, metaphors and other figures of speech used in the scriptures.

    THE WOMAN is all flesh, both male and female.

    THE WOMAN is Christ church.

    THE WOMAN is the virgin.

    THE WOMAN is Christ's bride (wife).

    Likewise when the word is addressing MAN, it is both male and female.

    Genesis 5:2 MALE and FEMALE created he them: and blessed them, and called their (male and female) name ADAM.

    These verses in 1 Timothy 2 are parables, metaphors and signified language.

    1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam (Christ) was not deceived, but THE WOMAN being deceived was in the transgression.

    This is saying Christ's church (Christ wife) is deceived, the same thing John says in Revelation 12:9 ... satan who DECEIVETH THE WHOLE WORLD.

    1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she (THE WOMAN, includes both male and female, Christ wife, pregnant with THE WORD) shall BE SAVED in child bearing (being born of the same SEED that it was inpregnated with, THE WORD of God).

    Being born again of TRUTH delivers you from being deceived.

    Teach and preach all you want, in God's kingdom there is neither male or female, only LIFE and TRUTH.

    GBU
  • WOMEN PREACHERS and THE ANOINTING__JOEL 2 - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Fuchsia Pickett teaching on THE LORD OF THE DOUBLE PORTION.

    Tiny gray-haired old lady, but I've never heard such a powerful word as this teaching.

    If God calls you to preach; nothing is going to silence the voice of the Holy Spirit, except you. Ezekiel 3. The Lord makes the vessel, not us.

    I don't have a lot of patience with people (saved and unsaved) who are lacerating those people who are doing what God showed them to be doing, anointed them and the message by the Holy Spirit. If God said to do something it will turn out productive. Someone will be saved, delivered from spiritual bondages, and filled with the Holy Spirit.

    The ANOINTING OF THE HOLY SPIRIT is powerful. Jesus had performed no miracles until right after Luke 4:18. He turned water into wine at his mothers request. See Isaiah 61 also.

    We are called to follow Jesus. If Jesus has chosen a woman to deliver a message to His Body, it will produce righteous fruit. I know what the anointing does. It took a frightened Gideon and made him a mighty leader of the Army of Israel.

    The Anointing is not subject to the Schoolmaster in the book of Galatians. The Schoolmaster shows us what is/was the Law of God, which is the Teacher. The law of the Spirit is freedom in Jesus Christ.

    The Lord crafts each vessel. Some are honorable and beautiful; others are understated but strong and useful for daily use. We're not all perfected yet. In 1 Corinthians 13, looking through a glass darkly: looking for perfection. We are being perfected by the Lord. Desire the freedom the Holy Spirit shows us.

    If you personally would desire a DOUBLE PORTION ANOINTING from the Holy Spirit; I'd listen to FUCHIA PICKETT, and IVERNA TOMPKINS; on youtube.

    I want anything and everything that God has for me. I only said "whoa, slow down once". Then I'd a few years yes, YEARS, when the Lord was quiet. Then I started begging, on my face, for Hom to pour the Holy Spirit into my life again! Don't go there.
  • ANGELES SAENZ on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Can a woman be a pastor of a congregation or is it prohibited?
  • What Happens To the Body and Spirit at Death - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I wrote this yesterday. S

    Genesis 2:7

    And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a LIVING SOUL.

    Ecclesiastes 3:18-21

    I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?

    Job 12:7-10 But ask the beasts, and they will teach you; the birds of the heavens, and they will tell you; or the bushes of the earth, and they will teach you; and the fish of the sea will declare to you. Who among all these does not know that the hand of the Lord has done this?

    ***In His hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of ALL mankind.***

    Ecclesiastes 12:7

    And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and the spirit returns to God who gave it.

    Everything returns to dust upon death. The spirits return to God. (Immediately)
  • Only Mankind Have Souls - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Genesis 2:7

    And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a LIVING SOUL.

    Ecclesiastes 3:18-21

    I said in my heart with regard to the children of man that God is testing them that they may see that they themselves are but beasts. For what happens to the children of man and what happens to the beasts is the same; as one dies, so dies the other. They all have the same breath, and man has no advantage over the beasts, for all is vanity. All go to one place. All are from the dust, and to dust all return. Who knows whether the spirit of man goes upward and the spirit of the beast goes down into the earth?

    Job 35:11 Who teaches us more than the beasts of the earth and makes us wiser than the birds of the heavens?

    Job 12:7-10 But ask the beasts, and they will teach you; the birds of the heavens, and they will tell you; or the bushes of the earth, and they will teach you; and the fish of the sea will declare to you. Who among all these does not know that the hand of the Lord has done this? In his hand is the life of every living thing and the breath of all mankind.

    ** Ecclesiastes 12:7

    And the dust returns to the earth as it was, and THE SPIRIT returns to God who gave it.

    comment: Everything returns to dust upon death. The spirits return to God. [ there will be animals and birds in heaven]
  • Rod - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    this is just to add on to some great passages already noted

    1 Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Hi, Joe,

    Also, see James 4:14
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Also look at

    Job 8:9

    Job 14:2

    Ps. 39:5, 11

    Ps. 102:11
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    Hello Joe,

    Psalm 144:3-4 comes to mind for me.

    "Lord, what is man, that You take knowledge pf him? Or the son of man, that You are mindful of him?

    Man is a breath; His days are like a passing shadow."
  • Joe Vogelsang on Genesis 2 - 2 years ago
    I seem to recall a passage that says, and I paraphrase, that a man's lifetime is no more than the blinking of God's eye.

    Can you identify such a passage?

    Thank you,

    Joe
  • Rod - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    It's still there

    Genesis 2:21-25 And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man."
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 21 - 2 years ago
    Hi Louise. We find the Name of the LORD (Jehovah) written from the earliest chapters of the Bible ( Genesis 2:7). But only from Exodus 6:1-3, does God reveal Himself to Moses: that He is the LORD, Jehovah:

    "Then the LORD said unto Moses, Now shalt thou see what I will do to Pharaoh: for with a strong hand shall he let them go, and with a strong hand shall he drive them out of his land. And God spake unto Moses, and said unto him, I am the LORD: And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them."
  • Shaarei - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    The man in Genesis 1:26-28 is ADAM.

    Genesis 2:15

    "And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it."

    and then EVE was made

    Great and most wise GOD is Our Father who is above All Things
  • Denise - 2 years ago
    Who are we a bond servant to? Jesus is our God and we are His servants, not IT( the devil) nor our crooked government, nor anything that is unrighteous in the sight of our Lord Jesus Christ!!! We tend to push Jesus aside when we fear the world which the Lord gave us to live and prosper! Instead, we have evil driving us to sin against Him for their destructive purposes!!! No fall out shelter will hide anyone from Jesus Christ!! He knows all minds and hearts for He created us for His own purpose!! People believe that we evolved from monkeys!!! That's a lie!! Genesis 2:7 KJV read it!!!
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Genesis 3:15 or maybe Genesis 2:23-24
  • RichFairhurst - In Reply on Romans 5 - 2 years ago
    I do not dispute that our own sins will be judged. But they are not the origin of sin in me or anyone else. The origin of sin in me was Adam's sin and it was already condemned. The disposition that hated the light already existed from the moment I was conceived.

    Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

    This is part of David's confession of his sin with Uriah's wife and his murder of Uriah. It is a confession I make.

    This corruption of nature did not originate with me, and it did not originate from man's original created state. That corruption originated in Adam's deed of eating the tree of the knowledge of good and evil against the commandment of God that carried the penalty of death. Was the penalty of death in that commandment only what occurred to Adam's during his 930th year when he physically died? No.

    Genesis 2:17

    But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

    Adam was under the penalty of death the day he ate of the fruit, and it's guilt was sufficient to deny him the ability to live one more day. The penalty of death and judgement of all mankind could have taken place on the very day Adam's ate. Satan was counting on that, since he was judged that way. None of us would even exist had God chosen to carry out the penalty of death that way, and He was within His rights to do that, as he later showed under the Law when the penalties of those commandments were carried out the day it was confirmed by two witnesses.

    The 930 years and the birth of every human being since was all of grace. The animal(s) that died that day clothed them to give us all physical life. But not spiritual life

    Our mere existence is a gift of grace. And the origin of righteousness and justification in me now is not my righteous deeds or my righteous disposition it is of faith in Christ's righteousness, both in his deeds and in His nature.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hi Phil. In my understanding, there is only one creation account in these first two chapters in Genesis. The first chapter details God's creative Work over the six days & in chapter 2, we read from verse 4 further details of some of that creation, especially of the creative act of Adam & then Eve. I realize that some folk see these accounts as two, but as the Apostle Paul said in 1 Corinthians 15:45, "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (meaning, Jesus) was made a quickening spirit", referring back to Genesis 2:7. We should understand that Adam was indeed the first human being according to the Scriptures, & there is never any reference in the Bible to any other pre-Adamic creation of human-like creatures. If they did exist, then some information would be given as to their lives, any sin, or their eventual annihilation - but we read nowhere about this.
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Indeed brother S. Spencer, Amen. Christ was indeed the second Adam, but more importantly, I feel, the last Adam, i.e. there could be no further attempt by the Father to give any better than the best He gave in Jesus, His Word.

    That is why I sense that Paul quoted the first part of 1 Corinthians 15:45, "And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul" referring to Genesis 2:7. But the latter part, "the last Adam was made a quickening spirit", to which there was no direct OT reference in terms of 'another Adam', was Paul's belief that Jesus too had to come in perfection just as the first Adam, if there was to be any hope for us. But now, with the failure of the first & sin's consequences upon all, the Last would effect a Work that not only showed His perpetual purity but also be the God-given means of giving new life (resurrection) to dead souls through His Life & Death.
  • Brother carl - In Reply on Revelation 1 - 2 years ago
    God's ways are higher than man's ways. - Isaiah 55:9

    There are God's days. - 2 Peter 3:8

    There are Creations days. - Genesis 1:5

    God who created all things by JESUS CHRIST ( Ephesians 3:9)

    Gave all his creation the same time in days which are, "The Evening and the Morning" light and darkness.

    And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.

    Gen 1:5 (KJV)

    The evening and the morning are all creation's days. (From Heaven and Earth to Angels and Men).

    God's day is as a Thousand years.

    But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

    2 Pet 3:8 (KJV)

    When God told Adam, The day you eat thereof you shall surely die. - Genesis 2:17

    The day God told Adam was in God's day.

    How do we know?

    Because Adam lived to be nine hundred and thirty years old and he died.

    That's not a Thousand years.

    And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.

    Gen 5:5 (KJV)

    The Lord JESUS bless you.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Chris.

    The type of fruit is not given.

    perhaps God didn't want the emphasis being on the fruit but rather it being on the deed and what the tree was called.

    "the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,"

    Genesis 2:17.

    God bless.
  • Free - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi dear. As concise as possible. To get the whole picture, you can read the Hebrews, in new testament.

    Because the whole Word must be fulfilled, Jesus came for us all died on the cross, when He did that He fulfilled the law.

    John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

    John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

    Hebrew 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

    24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

    When God Speak He who created the whole world and everything around us.

    Genesis 2:3

    And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

    Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of

    He created from what He sees from His thought's. He diddent only created thats who is like nice cats and dogs, but everything that we sees He created. And not only that we can see. We have a creation beyond that, more heavens and evan more earth becouse we have a underworld as well.

    Romans 1:20

    For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

    When God speak who is Holy it has too be fulfilled. 1 Timothy 1:17

    Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever.

    Ephesians 3:10 God bless u in Jesus Name.

    Amen.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Thanks GiGi. I could only learn this from referring to the Hebrew text (& translation), where in Genesis 2:4 the Hebrew clearly shows "in the day that the LORD (YHWH) God (Elohim) made the earth and the heavens". And not being a Hebrew reader, I can only read it as given, that it is 'God Who is YHWH', Who has done all these things & now communing with man & woman.

    Given that the Genesis writer is generally accepted as being Moses (written between 1450 & 1410 BC), where he would have been given special grace to relate these events that he personally had not experienced, it could be that God was already showing him that 'special' connection to His people Israel, yet future, was already set in Adam & Eve.

    Yet, would all those living pre-Moses (i.e. pre- Exodus 3:13,14), even know that 'special' Name? Exodus 6:3, says that the 'Name YHWH was not known to the patriarchs'. And yet we know that they were aware of it, like Abraham ( Genesis 15:7; Genesis 22:14), Jacob ( Genesis 27:20) & others knew that Name. But did they only know OF that Name but did not know Him fully, the full depth of understanding of the Name, YHWH? This debate probably still goes on. But when the children of Israel were in slavery in Egypt for over 400 years, that Name which should have been remembered & faithfully passed on, was forgotten, hence their need for an urgent reminder by Moses.

    And "why should the Israelites listen to Moses & trust God?" There were four tokens of identification of this 'forgotten' God: the one of His Name ( Exodus 3:14, I AM: I've read that it is the inner meaning of YHWH - I Am the One Who Is); the one of the rod/serpent ( Exodus 4:1-5); the one of the leprous hand ( Exodus 4:6-8); & the one of the river of blood ( Exodus 4:9). I guess that any one or all of these signs should have confirmed Moses' call without any dispute & revealed to the Israelites unequivocally Who the One was Who had heard their cries & come to save them.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Thank you GiGi for picking up on my error. I should have written Genesis 2:4.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Hi Chris, very good analysis. Thanks. I just read Genesis 2:2 and it does not say LORD God. Are you meaning Exodus 3:6?
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 2 years ago
    Hello Gitai. That's a good question, as these differences in the use of God (as a Name), can be found right through the Scriptures.

    In the references you gave, we can understand & know the meaning of the various names given. In Genesis chapter 1, the author refers to God as 'God' (or, Elohim). Elohim, is a general name for the True God, as it can also be used to depict other gods (e.g. Genesis 31:30; Exodus 12:12), of angels ( Psalm 8:5), of men ( Psalm 82:6), of judges/rulers ( Exodus 21:6)). So, in relation to God's creative Work, the Name Elohim was given here. And of course, Elohim is also used of the True God elsewhere in the Bible, where creating is not signified (e.g. Genesis 35:7).

    But in Genesis chapter 2 we see the use of the word, LORD (or, Yahweh), & this signifies a special revelation & a special relationship to Israel: 'Yahweh' means the active, self-existent One (as in Exodus 3:14, where the word is connected to the verb, 'to be') & also being Israel's Redeemer ( Exodus 6:6). So the use of the word, LORD, signifies this True God (Elohim) is not distant (as seen by His other Works), but is now revealed in a most personal way to Israel as LORD (Yahweh); hence combining the two words to read, LORD God. And from Genesis 2:2 onwards, this Name is used to signify the commencement of a personal interaction with His creation.

    And when we read the word, 'Lord', this means 'master, lord, sovereign' (as in Genesis 15:2). Hence we can have a variety of combinations: God, LORD God, Lord God, each one depicting what the author has received from God that has to be revealed to the reader (chiefly, Israel in the OT references). And of interest, this God Who is a personal God, is also experienced in many ways in that relationship. Hence, we get compound Names of Yahweh, such Yahweh-Jireh (the God Who will see to it; or provides); Yahweh-Shalom (the God Who gives peace); & many other compound Names.


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