Re: Hell. In the Bible the words used for Hell can be applied to both grave & a place of torment. In Genesis 37:35 we see the word 'Sheol' used. In Luke 16:23, Hades is used. Both words can be depicted as Hell, but its application calls for one being a grave & the other, a place of torment. As also with 'Gehenna': it may have had its roots in the Valley of Hinnom where the atrocities of human burning took place, but in Scripture ( Matthew 5:22, Luke 12:5) & references in Revelation 19,20 clearly speaks of a place other than that near Jerusalem where eternal torment of those judged unworthy to partake of God's Kingdom. I've only given a few Scriptures on this for want of space.
And yes, Jesus was in the grave (sepulchre, 'mnemeion') for three days before appearing to Mary. Blessings.
Verse 9 and 10 are the explanation for Revelation 12
Revelation Chapter 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
11 And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.
This was fulfilled when Joseph became a Governor in Egypt.
Peter- message to you all on Genesis 37 - 4 years ago
I feel so sorry for joseph for thee sold him and i really think that god could help him. but it wasn't right. this coronavirus needs to stop. i aslo like to thank for your comments and hopefully when this coronavirus is over i get to celebrate and party. any way verse 36(last one) his father said i will visit thee grave. thank you nhs. you will have to read the bible every day children ok please> and again thank u for the comments.
Sackcloth and ashes is extreme mourning and / or repentance. sackcloth was rough uncomfortable for clothing. Sitting in ashes was dirty and I suppose symbolic of being dirty and burn out? It is humility before the Lord
2 Samuel 3:31 And David said to Joab, and to all the people that were with him, Rend your clothes, and gird you with sackcloth, and mourn before Abner. And king David himself followed the bier.
Genesis 37:34 And Jacob rent his clothes, and put sackcloth upon his loins, and mourned for his son many days.
Nehemiah 9:1 Now in the twenty and fourth day of this month the children of Israel were assembled with fasting, and with sackclothes, and earth upon them.
Psalms 35:13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.
Daniel 9:3 And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:
In the 7th Seal, the Trumpets are introduced. This Seal signifies the last days of the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24. The Trumpets sound at the very last hour of the Tribulation. Then the Bowls of the Wrath of God are found in the last Trumpet. It is that last hour that is referred to as The Day of The Lord or Day of His Wrath. See 14:7.
In any case, Genesis 37:9 is a reference to people, more specifically, Joseph's brothers. Now, although the reference in Judges 5:20 appears to be to Angels, it is more specifically a reference to earthly Kings at war.
In Revelation 22:16, Jesus refers to Himself as The Bright and Morning Star.
Joel 2:10 seems to be speaking of more than just stars. It is speaks of the powerful and influential, whose luster, whose brightness, whose power, appeal and influence are diminished by the army of God. But who is that army? It is an army of people.
Again, who is the star in Revelation 9:1?
I hope this answers your question. But keep in mind that in everyday speak and historically, we sometimes refer to prominent people as stars, too.
Thanks for asking. It would be good to hear your opinion on this also.
many events happened up to this point in time, but the Will-Of-GOD is being carried out and GOD is in control. Jehovah GOD assured ...Abraham's descendants being in Egypt 400 years and GOD is in control as Joseph is being used by GOD for the long stay in Egypt. In 2019 Jehovah is still in control, so through the BLOOD Of JESUS, being FAITHFUL to the end is where we stand. Rev.2:1-29 Rev.3:1-22.
Probable is not the answer. GOD deals in definite. Where does it say Rachel, is dead in Genesis 37? Rachel is alive according to Genesis 37:10. "...shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?"
Probably because Rachel was symbolized in his dream as the 'moon'. Jacob was asking Joseph what he thought the dream meant. His question had a tone of rebuke, but Jacob kept it in his heart. It actually meant that the son of Jacob and Rachel would some day rule over the other 11 sons of Jacob. Jacob's comment also interprets the sun-clothed woman in Rev. 12 as the nation of Israel.
19 And Rachel died, and was buried in the way to Ephrath, which is Bethlehem. In chap37 verses 9 and 10 Why did Jacob ask, should your Mother which was dead and your brothers bow down to you?
There is no such scripture. The child spoken of in Revelation 12 is NOT Michael, it is Jesus Christ. The woman referred to in Rev 12 is in fact the nation of Israel. Look at the imagery in the scripture. A woman clothed in the sun, with the moon at her feet, and crowned with 12 stars? It is almost exactly the same wording used in Genesis, in Joshua's dream Genesis 37: 9 .
The Bible if fraught with lessons. The brothers jealousy, Josephs innocence, the way fate plays out, the guiltiness of evil acts. But God's will be done, as always in the Bible. Without their evil act, they all would have perished in the famine. Joseph went to the Ishmaelites, and prospered. His coat of many colors signifies that He is not only the God of Israel,but many nations. We divide
Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty pieces of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt. Jesus was betrayed for 20 pieces of silver also.
End of day 12 of Reading the Bible through in a year. I missed reading yesterday, but did a little catchup today. Among believers the story of Joseph is a cherished favorite. Joseph endured many trials as he depended upon God. God kept Joseph, stayed Joseph, and delivered Joseph. God demonstrates his love and grace through Joseph to the nation of Israel and to the world; similar to Jesus!
Funke; I don't see it as wrong in any way for the righteous to speak to the LORD about the wicked and what they're doing. Don't they make our lives a torment by their lawlessness, and aren't they the cause for so MANY weak Christians to fall into sin? Joseph wasn't a "tattle tale;" but he DISAPPROVED his older brothers' ungodly behavior; especially with regard to the Family Heritage of Faith!
Verse 2 '...Joseph brought unto his father their evil report.' This was the beginning of Joseph's woes in the hand of his brethren. Children of God should be weary of carrying evil report about others. Rather, speak well of them. Even where there is unholy behavior among them, counsel and pray for them. It amounts to hatred when we always carry bad report of others.
In this chap. purpose preserves the life of Joseph. Joseph's brothers hated him and wanted to kill because their father, Jacob, favoured him over them and Joseph told them his dreams in which he was Lord over them. They tried to kill him but could not because God had a purpose à nd a plan for his life. Pro. 19:21 'Many are the plans in a man's heart but it's the Lord's purpose that prevails'.
I wonder that so many are so hard hearted at the sufferings of the righteous, at the hands of wicked men! The world is full of these envious murderers without a conscience toward God or their own fellow-men; and yet most "so-called" Christians can only ask questions about Joseph's motives??? Ever since Cain and Abel, the children of the devil have persecuted the Saints, to hide their own sins.
I believe Joseph shared his dreams out of wonderment over them not boasting. After all he was a type of Christ and not there to provoke his brothers to envy and hate.
Chaligha, it seems that the Scripture is speaking of his brothers ' wrong doings and incorrect activities. God bless us all and also in the understanding of his Word. Praise God through our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Amen!
Re: Hell. In the Bible the words used for Hell can be applied to both grave & a place of torment. In Genesis 37:35 we see the word 'Sheol' used. In Luke 16:23, Hades is used. Both words can be depicted as Hell, but its application calls for one being a grave & the other, a place of torment. As also with 'Gehenna': it may have had its roots in the Valley of Hinnom where the atrocities of human burning took place, but in Scripture ( Matthew 5:22, Luke 12:5) & references in Revelation 19,20 clearly speaks of a place other than that near Jerusalem where eternal torment of those judged unworthy to partake of God's Kingdom. I've only given a few Scriptures on this for want of space.
And yes, Jesus was in the grave (sepulchre, 'mnemeion') for three days before appearing to Mary. Blessings.
Genesis 37:4
Genesis 37:5
Genesis 37:6
Genesis 37:8
Genesis 37:9
Genesis 40:8
Genesis 41:11-13
Genesis 41:15
Genesis 45:5
Psalm 37
Jeremiah 23:32
Revelation Chapter 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
9 And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.
10 And he told it to his father, and to his brethren: and his father rebuked him, and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee to the earth?
11 And his brethren envied him; but his father observed the saying.
This was fulfilled when Joseph became a Governor in Egypt.
peter mcaleer
2 Samuel 3:31 And David said to Joab, and to all the people that were with him, Rend your clothes, and gird you with sackcloth, and mourn before Abner. And king David himself followed the bier.
Genesis 37:34 And Jacob rent his clothes, and put sackcloth upon his loins, and mourned for his son many days.
Nehemiah 9:1 Now in the twenty and fourth day of this month the children of Israel were assembled with fasting, and with sackclothes, and earth upon them.
Psalms 35:13 But as for me, when they were sick, my clothing was sackcloth: I humbled my soul with fasting; and my prayer returned into mine own bosom.
Daniel 9:3 And I set my face unto the Lord God, to seek by prayer and supplications, with fasting, and sackcloth, and ashes:
In the 7th Seal, the Trumpets are introduced. This Seal signifies the last days of the Great Tribulation of Matthew 24. The Trumpets sound at the very last hour of the Tribulation. Then the Bowls of the Wrath of God are found in the last Trumpet. It is that last hour that is referred to as The Day of The Lord or Day of His Wrath. See 14:7.
In any case, Genesis 37:9 is a reference to people, more specifically, Joseph's brothers. Now, although the reference in Judges 5:20 appears to be to Angels, it is more specifically a reference to earthly Kings at war.
In Revelation 22:16, Jesus refers to Himself as The Bright and Morning Star.
Joel 2:10 seems to be speaking of more than just stars. It is speaks of the powerful and influential, whose luster, whose brightness, whose power, appeal and influence are diminished by the army of God. But who is that army? It is an army of people.
Again, who is the star in Revelation 9:1?
I hope this answers your question. But keep in mind that in everyday speak and historically, we sometimes refer to prominent people as stars, too.
Thanks for asking. It would be good to hear your opinion on this also.
Carlos Ramirez Trevio