Discuss Genesis 41

  • T. Levis - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 2 years ago
    Matthew 24,

    North, South East & West, examples: Ezekiel 37:9, Revelation 7:1, Job 37:9,

    East Wind; Genesis 41:6,23,27, Exodus 10:13, Exodus 14:21, Psalms 48:7, Isaiah 27:8, Jeremiah 18:17, Ezekiel 17:10, Ezekiel 19:12, Hosea 13:15,

    West Wind; Exodus 10:19,

    North Wind; Proverbs 25:23,

    South Wind, Job 37:17, Luke 12:55, Acts 27:13,

    Psalms 78:26, Ecclesiastes 1:6, Jeremiah 10:13, Jeremiah 51:16, Amos 4:13,

    Interestingly in Michigan the Northern winds blow, it feels like bitter coldness inside, freezing your nose inside like icicles, even through your clothing layers. In Southern California when the " Santa Ana winds" dry & hot, dusty, both very district & unpleasant. The winds that blow East from the Pacific Ocean even summertime bring cool, unpleasant chills as early evening approaches. Etc. (In some personal observation of distinct winds.)

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Bruce Malouf - 2 years ago
    "Twenty seven years passed and they forgot their wickedness to Joseph because God gave him dreams with Spiritual signifiance"

    Irene Allen states this in her response 2 years ago to 'Stephen on Genesis 41:26' seven years ago in the comments.

    I made a comment 5 years ago, in which I point to 41 minus 14, which also is 27.

    I then point out that 27 is the same as 3 x 3 x 3.

    If the 'crisis' in the dream which Joseph interprets, can be deemed to reappear, in another form, in the Third Month of the Third Decade of the Third Millenium, then there may well be some truth in what I said 5 years ago, prediciting the 'crisis' of March 2020 well beorehand in 2017 by just looking at the numbers in Gen. Ch 41.

    In fact it could be said now that the whole decade from 2020 - 2029 is unfortunatelly the COVID decade, pherhaps Gen. Ch 2020?
  • Hope This is Helpful - In Reply on Genesis 50 - 2 years ago
    Manasseh was, according to the Book of Genesis, the first son of Joseph and Asenath ( Genesis 41:50-52). Asenath was an Egyptian woman whom the Pharaoh gave to Joseph as wife, and the daughter of Potipherah, a priest of On ( Genesis 41:50-52). Manasseh was born in Egypt before the arrival of the children of Israel from the land of Gershwin.

    Machir was the son of Manasseh, grandson of Joseph, and father of Gilead. Joseph lived to see and to play a part in the up-bringing of Machir and his children.

    In the Torah's account of the journey of the Israelites after the Exodus, Machir (the individual) is portrayed as conquering the territories known as Gilead and Bashan, which had previously been occupied by Amorites. Half of the tribe of Manasseh, those descended from Machir, are described as having settled in Gilead and Bashan,and consequently they were important in Gilead's history.

    According to the Books of Samuel, Machir son of Ammiel was the name of a descendant of the Machir mentioned above, who resided at Lo-Debar. The text states that here he looked after Meribaal, the son of Jonathan, until David took over his care, and also looked after David himself, when David found himself a fugitive.
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Yep, we should focus on the main lesson of the text and not on such things as skin color of people in a time where we cannot know. And even if we did know, your right, it is not significant to give much consideration.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Amen Gigi.

    The key thing is Jacob blessed them as his sons. There is no virtue or lesson to be learned concerning their skin color.

    And now thy two sons, Ephraim and Manasseh, which were born unto thee in the land of Egypt before I came unto thee into Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and Simeon, they shall be mine. Gen 48:5.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Exactly S. Spencer, what difference does it make to us what color her skin was. Being Egyptian was mentioned for us to know she was not an Israelites. God thought that was all that was necessary for us to know.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Asenath was a high-born, aristocratic Egyptian woman. She was the wife of Joseph and the mother of his sons, Manasseh and Ephraim. There are two Rabbinic approaches to Asenath: One holds that she was an ethnic Egyptian woman that converted to marry Joseph.

    There was no mention of her being black. You can read more on Google.

    "Asenath, Bible, HISTORY"
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Hi Sunita.

    The scripture doesn't say.

    Is there any significance?
  • Sunita on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Was Asenath (Joseph's wife) a black woman? The Bible says that she was an Egyptian
  • T Levis - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4 - 2 years ago
    Responding to ELB,

    1John 4:1-20,

    Genesis 41:8, Genesis 45:27, Exodus 6:9, Exodus 28:3, Exodus 35:12, Numbers 14:24, Deuteronomy 2:30, Deuteronomy 34:9, Joshua 5:1, Proverbs 18:14, Ezekiel 1:20, Romans 8:14-16, Haggi 1:14,

    Isaiah 11:2,

    Leviticus 20:27, Numbers 5:14,30,

    Numbers 11:17,25,

    Judges 9:23,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Sorry, I forgot to include the scriptural references for symbolism of things = days & years : Genesis 40:12, Genesis 40:18, Genesis 41:26,27,29,30,

    Proverbs 1:5-7, 1Corinthians 12, 2Peter 1:20,21,
  • Jcbu undercover on Genesis 41:43 - 2 years ago
    God bless everyone had a dream myself last night.Do not know if it means anything or not.There was a very young mother bear she attacked me! After a struggle for my life. I defeated her.Then thier where about 10 to 12 baby bear cubs wailing for their young mother so I thought bears do not have that many cubs there must be more mothers here.What am I to do with these babys?When awakening I remembered this place out of town that takes care of animals The bear man of Emo Ontario is this a sign that we should speak togeather?
  • T. Le - In Reply on Luke 1 - 2 years ago
    The Holy Spirit did exist & manifest itself in people prior. Genesis 1:2, Genesis 6:3, Genesis 41:38, Judges 3:10, Judges 6:3, Judges 11:29, 1 Samuel 11:6-7, 1 Samuel 16:13, 2 Kings 2:9,

    1 Samuel 16:14, 1 Samuel 19:20,

    There are more references. Here are some more study references. Hope this helps.

    appears to be different in the manifestation unto many people at the same time with many events occurring.

    Also people being able to transfer the HOLY Spirit to another seems to appear after CHRIST was resurrected from death & the grave. Acts 1, Acts 9:17,31, Acts 10:44, Acts 11:15,16, Acts 13:52, Acts 19:1-11,

    Ephesians 5:9, Galatians 3:14, Romans 8:1,

    Please read the WORD of GOD,
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Yep, you !are so right!
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Sister GiGi, you have no worries about the future, you have PROMISES.

    Seek ye first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and ALL these things shall be added unto you.

    God Bless You.
  • GiGi again - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Thanks .We have had a good example in my parents. Though they never earned above the poverty line, they never went in debt for anything except the house which they paid off in probably five years or so. I cos $16,000 dollars in 1956. They just hated to spend interest on anything. So they lived frugally. We have too, for most of our marriage. We are preparing for retirement for both of us (I am now retired a year earlier than I expected). We paid off our house about five years ago and then have been putting the money we were paying on our mortgage and the extra money to being the mortgage down to zero quickly into savings for the past five years. Facing retirement is a bit unnerving because we will make do with what we will receive on a monthly basis and hopefully keep our savings intact for a while. It is hard to know how things may change in our economy over the next 20 yrs. Even so, God has always carried us through in every circumstance, so we will live responsibility and simply. We have learned to be content in a simple lifestyle for these 42 years. I know it is different for everyone and it is harder for younger people to get established than in the past. Yet, we all can probably do with a lot less "stuff." Everyone is at a different place with regards to how they manage the "fruits of their labors" but I do suggest being prayerful in all things.

    It is good to hear from you, Chris
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Thank you GiGi. That was a word in season for sure. So many Christians get trapped in consumerism hardly giving consideration that our bounty & blessings only come from the Lord & He expects that we use them wisely & carefully. Yet, I sometimes hear, 'I earned it, it's mine, I will do with it as I please'.

    When we correctly handle our material blessings by meeting our essential needs & looking out for the needs of others & the ministry of the Gospel, we will witness the Lord's full consistent riches to us. The difficulty that arises & the question: is the Christian showing little faith in God by saving his spare cash for the future or that rainy day? I had an aunt who lived like that, though she never judged anyone for putting aside money. She wholly trusted the Lord for supplying her needs, whether food or clothing. She looked after a Christian camping/conference facility so accommodation was free, but she received no wages or stipend. If someone gave her a monetary gift, she might buy something she needed & the rest she would give away. Once, she really wanted a green handbag & of course having no money, she laid the matter before the Lord. In time, someone gifted her a bag, & guess what, it was green. And that's how she lived to the day of her decease.

    But I believe it's prudent to put money away if at all possible - it may not be for one's own needs but for another that the Lord might bring to you. And of course, in our society, with its never-ending demands upon us for all manner of payments & taxes, it's quite different to those of Christ's day who lived very simply by subsistence endeavours. Indeed, we can "go to the ant" & learn ( Proverbs 6:6-8), not only to engage in wholesome work, but also to lay aside for the future. It's wise to live like that before the Lord - listening for His Direction on how to use what He's given to us & how to bless others in need. It's not just a one-way street. Thanks for raising this up, as seen in Joseph's life & wisdom.
  • GiGi on Genesis 41 - 2 years ago
    Wow! From prison to second in rank of all of Egypt, which was the "superpower" of the area at that time. Joseph knew that his ability to interpret dreams was from God and could confidently interpret the Pharaoh's dream. Either the magicians could not interpret the dreams or were afraid to do so in case they were wrong. But God proved to be over and above all of the powers of the magicians. Pharaoh recognized that the Spirit of God was with Joseph. The Pharaoh probably noticed Joseph's godly character in addition to is ability to interpret dreams to have chosen Joseph to oversee the land of Egypt during the time of plenty and famine. Pharaoh released so much into the hands of Joseph. He must have had confidence both in Joseph and in Joseph's God. It does not say how much Pharaoh knew about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He did know that Joseph was a Hebrew and may have heard about how God blessed Joseph's forefathers abundantly as well as blessing Joseph the 13 years he was in Egypt despite unfavorable circumstances. Placing Joseph in charge of his kingdom showed a bit of faith on Pharaoh's part.

    Joseph commanded his responsibilities with wisdom and good judgment. He was able to convince people to live on less than the abundance of their crop yields in order to store up much than what Egypt would use during the famine. There was enough for those tribes that came to Egypt for relief from starvation during the famine. Pharaoh ad chosen wisely in placing Joseph in charge.

    How often we can overspend in times of plenty when we probably should live modestly in order to save up for future expenses or possible downturns in our ability to earn income. In Egypt it was a matter of daily sustenance that they needed to consume in moderation to supply for the future famine. In current times, consumerism is such a trap as we are constantly being marketed by advertisers and social influence. May we all take some time to prayerfully re-evaluate our own lifestyles.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Good, you're at the right site. Start reading the WORD written inside by clicking the Books, I like Luke when I started that was great to show me as new study who Christ Jesus was, is & is to come. Hover over the scripture here, should bring you straight to it.

    Luke 1:1-4, you can continue to read by clicking read full chapter the scroll down, click tab on edges to next chapter, etc. Many people enjoy Psalms, I didn't enjoy it as much as a new beginner study but do enjoy it much more now after years of study.

    Psalms 1:1-3,

    U may enjoy Exodus, which actually begins in Genesis 37:1-36, continues : Genesis 39:1-23, Genesis 40:1-23, Genesis 41:1-57, Genesis 42:1-38, Genesis 43:1-34, Genesis 44:1-34,

    [Note this scripture chapter 44, Genesis, if you noticed we skipped Genesis 38, because it jumps from Joseph to Judah. Now if you read Genesis 38:1-30, you can understand a few things on deeper level = Judah maybe knows painful loss of children at this point in his life & even the difference of love towards children of his "loved wife". Next very importance of Judah's sacrifice for others, resemblance of Jesus sacrifice being beloved Son of GOD. John 3:16, ]also interesting Tamar, bore to Judah the son in Jesus documented lineage Matthew 1:1-3]

    Back to story : Genesis 45:1-28, (forgiveness), Genesis 46:1-34, Genesis 47:1-12 (Redemption) Genesis 47:27-31,

    Now note: Genesis 47:13-26 , Genesis 12:1-3, Genesis 12:10, Genesis 12:11-16, * Genesis 12:13-20, Genesis 16:3, Genesis 16:6-11, Genesis 15:13-14, Genesis 21:8-21, my own opinion Deuteronomy 32:35-36, Romans 12:19.

    These moments in Genesis leading up to how & why Israel came into bondage. Exodus 1:1-8, continue reading Exodus 1:22, please continue to read all of Exodus.

    One more encouraging note :) Hebrews 11:22, Psalms 105:1-45,

    Furthermore on this site under the 1611 Version tab you can scroll to see more history on the Bible.

    Hopefully these inspire a new lifetime desire of deeper study
  • Deborah - In Reply on Genesis 41:29 - 3 years ago
    Thank you so much!!! Have a blessed day! :)
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 41:29 - 3 years ago
    Okay. In reference to the 'end times', we have Revelation 13:17: "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Also, in Revelation 14:9,10.

    If you're unfamiliar with this chapter 13, you may want to read it from the beginning. This account was part of a greater vision given to the Apostle John concerning the last days, including the Great Tribulation (i.e. when the Anger of God is poured upon this world). John saw a beast rising up from the sea, having seven heads & ten horns. The beast is understood to be the coming Anti-Christ & the heads being the confederation of nations supporting him & an extension of his evil presence. As his name indicates, he will come proclaiming to be the Messiah, but his character & work are completely different & opposed to that of Jesus Christ. The Anti-Christ will demand he be worshipped & for those who refuse to do so & refuse to receive his mark, will not be able to trade. And this means the demise of those who stay true to Christ, being destroyed in the flesh but saved & glorified in the spirit.

    And yes, we're certainly at the threshold of such events as we consider Israel & the countries that are opposed to its existence. There have always been problems in that region & at a time when the forces of evil violently come against Israel, there will come a 'saviour' to negotiate peace in the region, but one who will ultimately serve his own ends & control the governments of the world & the people. The Anti-Christ is Satan incarnate, but most, as they are now, are conditioned to believe lies & accept him as one sent from God.
  • Deborah - In Reply on Genesis 41:29 - 3 years ago
    The verse I'm searching for is in reference to the end times, which is exactly where I believe we are right now. Thank you for trying to help.
  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 41:29 - 3 years ago
    The only reference that I can think of, pertains to buying & selling on the Sabbath Day. Assuming that there was sufficient food & other items to be traded, on the Sabbath, Israel was required to desist from any trading (amongst many other things), so as to keep the Day of Rest holy unto the Lord. Nehemiah 10:31, speaks of this:

    "And if the people of the land bring ware or any victuals on the sabbath day to sell, that we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on the holy day: and that we would leave the seventh year, and the exaction of every debt."
  • Rick Colombe on Genesis 41 - 4 years ago
    To Stanjett on Genesis 41 and your dream. Your comment is a year old in reference to your dream of winning 100 thousand dollars. Even so, I pray you did not follow through with giving your personal information to an entity that you could not prove. Sounds as though someone was attempting to scam you. We are to be wise in our walk with Jesus.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on John 21:11 - 4 years ago
    I'm trying to understand your question. If you meant to ask 'why'

    Genesis 37:4

    Genesis 37:5

    Genesis 37:6

    Genesis 37:8

    Genesis 37:9

    Genesis 40:8

    Genesis 41:11-13

    Genesis 41:15

    Genesis 45:5

    Psalm 37

    Jeremiah 23:32
  • Grace 13Aug2020 - In Reply on Proverbs 11:26 - 4 years ago
    Hello Mr Okeke

    Just in case you're unsure of this word in the KJV, I'll start with the definition of "withholdeth". It is the old English for the modern word 'withhold'. It's main meaning is to hold back (something from someone who wants it); in other words, to keep or hold something to oneself and to refuse to give or grant it to others. In some contexts, it can instead mean to restrain or control oneself from an action or expression

    The morality, and ethics (a recommended list of right behaviours to follow; a good 'code of conduct'; standards for good procedure or actions to do when in particular situations), of withholding anything depends on what it is, who holds or controls it, who lacks it, the situation, and whether harm, loss, death, psychological suffering, or physical sickness to anyone might result from not giving a person access to it. So, sometimes it is not wrong &selfish to withhold something just because someone else demands it or feels entitled to it

    Proverbs 11:26 gives an example of when it is definitely bad to withhold something of value to others who lack it. It is also a true principle because it accurately describes real situations that do happen

    Example: Joseph caused corn and grain or other preservable crops to be collected & stored as a resource for a future expected famine ( Genesis 41:46-49). Some bible translators were wrong to use the word "hoard" in Prov 11:26 because it means to overstock, and Joseph certainly did collect much more than needed. He could do that without depriving anyone of food at that time because Egypt's land & farmers produced an oversupply. When the famine came the corn was sold, likely at a reasonable price, and distributed fairly. So he was blessed with popularity, respect, obedience, honor & memorial ( Genesis 41:54-57 + 45:16 + 50:26; Exodus 1:8) because he did not withhold corn from people at risk of starvation. In contrast, Joseph Stalin starved Ukrainians in the 1932&'33 Holodomor, a first ever man-made famine
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Matthew 15 - 4 years ago
    Joseph in Genesis 41:1 the King James uses the word Kine for cow or cattle. middle english word
  • Irene Allen - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 4 years ago
    Like your comment for seven. Also I think the repetition of seven's conveys revelation of the brothers' evil intent. Twenty seven yrs. passed and they forgot their wickedness to Joseph because God gave him dreams with Spiritual signifiance. They focused only on doing evil to Joseph. No hint of repenting. God truly comforted Joseph through all his struggles and will do same for us.
  • David Sykes on Genesis 41 - 4 years ago
    All mighty GOD took Care of the Israelites, and the Egyptions. HE will give all who give their life to Jesus Christ a home in Heaven!
  • Dawn - In Reply on Genesis 41 - 4 years ago
    What I understand from Joseph story is that God chose him before he were born to be a leader, a blessings to maney,but in order to do so,he had to be tested.And he did remain faithful.


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