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Gerry:

PROPHECY

Psalms 91:13 Thou (Christ, the old lion) shall tread upon the (young) lion (man) and the adder (the devil, man), the young lion (man) and the dragon (the devil, man) shall thou trample under feet (of Christ, the old lion).

Nahum 2:11 Where is the dwelling of the (young) lions (man), and the feedingplace of the young lions (man), where the (old) lion (Christ), even the old lion (Christ) walked, and the (old) lion's whelp (the young lion, man), and none made them (the young lion, man) afraid.

Job 4:10 The roaring of the (old) lion (Christ), and the voice of the fierce (old) lion (Christ), and the teeth of the young lions (man), are broken,

Job 4:11 The old lion (Christ) perisheth for lack of prey (when Christ subdues man, the young lions, under him), and the stout (old) lion's (Christ) whelps (young lions, man) are scattered abroad.

Genesis 49:9 (the tribe, children of) Judah are a (old) lion's (Christ) whelp (young lions, men), from the prey (devouring the young lions) Thou (old lion, Christ) art gone up, he (Christ) stooped down, he (Christ) crouched as a (old) lion, and as a (old) lion (Christ) who shall arouse him (the old lion, Christ).

God Bless YOU!

I feel there is a significant detail that is possibly a detail that the LORD wants to show you. You may want to independent research about lions. I would be interested in what you find relating to what the LORD shows you!

Psalms 91, lions Psalms 91:13,

1st I must thank you, Thanks for bringing me back to this Psalms it's Powerful & encouraging!

Hear are more scriptures on lions within the scripture. Several of GOD's people were delivered from lions.

I understand it to mean, any lion just incase we question "what about a young one". Here's a scripture about "._._.an old lion,who shall rouse him up?' Genesis 49:9,

Young lion : Numbers 23:24,

these also mention a difference between: Job 4:8-21, Job 28:8, Job 38:39, Psalms 17:12, Isaiah 30:6, Isaiah 31:4,

Ezekiel 19:3, Amos 3:4, Micah 5:8,

Victory from lions : Judges 14, 1Samuel 17:34,36, 2Timothy 4:17, Daniel 6,

But also used against a Prophet that disobeyed GOD's specific orders : 1Kings 13,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hi Lewis.

You've brought up a scenario that can also be used in this regard.

God wasn't ready to give Israel a King "yet." It was Israel's will not Gods.

1 Samuel 8:7-22.

God promised Israel a king out of Judah by the mouth of Jacob.

The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be. Genesis 49:10,

Saul was never Gods choice as king

It was Israel using their free will that was against Gods will.

Israel is often called a stiff neck people for not obeying Gods commands.

Donna,

Please keep reading the WORD.

Here's some scriptures about what your Pastor said

2Timothy 3:1-9, 2Timothy 3:12-17, 2Peter 3:3-14, Revelation 2, Revelation 9,

Scripture about the Church

1John 2:15-29, Genesis 49:1,8,9,10,11,12,18, Micah 4:1, Isaiah 2:2, Acts 2:17, Hebrews 10,

1Corinthians 6:2-3, Colossians 1:18,24

Don't worry: Philippians 4:6-8,

Hopefully these are helpful

I'm glad you asked. Mr. D'Ambrosio, I had referred so many scriptures to you that I didn't want to overwhelm, even though I had not finished completely what I wanted to point out in scripture.

John 17, whole chapter, note vrs. 20 & 21, John 3:15-16,

Prophecy & prophecy fulfilled

Isaiah 46:13, Jeremiah 3:23, Genesis 49:18, Luke 2, Luke 3:4-6, Isaiah 53, Luke 23, Psalms 22, Psalms 118:19-22,

We are grafted in: Romans 11, whole chapter,

Hopefully these are helpful, there are many more scriptures. Let me know if you would like more.

Hi Sister GiGi.

Great read. I like to add some input on the blessings Jacob gave his sons.

I believe the blessings to Abraham and Issac went through the Lineage of Judah.

Here's why.

Genesis 22:18.

Galatians 3:14.

Galatians 3:16.

Now here is Judahs blessing.

Judah, thou art he whom thy brethren shall praise: thy hand shall be in the neck of thine enemies; thy father's children shall bow down before thee.

Judah is a lion's whelp: from the prey, my son, thou art gone up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion, and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?

THE SCEPTRE SHALL NOT DEPART FROM JUDAH, NOR A LAWGIVER FROM BETWEEN HIS FEET, UNTIL SHILOH COME; AND UNTO HIM SHALL THE GATHERING OF THE PEOPLE BE.

Binding his foal unto the vine, and his ass's colt unto the choice vine; he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

His eyes shall be red with wine, and his teeth white with milk. Genesis 49:8-12.

Abraham's blessing to Issac was because he was Promised! He was God's doing! We are children of Promise as well.

Galatians 4:28.

Ishmael was the works of their own hands "Works of the flesh " ( This has a lot of spiritual application )

Here is the Contrast of the two.

Galatians 4:29-31.

Verse 30 says Issac is the heir this connects him to the promise on through Jacob on Judah to Christ. Revelation 5:5.

What's interesting is Jacob blessing Joseph sons out of order instituting the reverse sovereign order of the firstborn as seen in Romans 9:11-12. Romans 9:11.

("that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;")

I believe we see the contract of Works and Grace, Flesh and Spirit, The narrow gate and the wide gate. And the putting asleep of Abraham when the unconditional covenant was made. All in These verses.

God bless you and Good night.

Here Jacob calls his 12 sons near and pronounces a prophecy over each one. He says it is for the "last days". (far into the future?).

I have not studied these prophecies in depth yet, but I do understand some. To Judah will be the monarchy (scepter). Simeon and Levi will not have their own portion of land, but will be scattered into all of the land portions of the other brothers. I guess I will have to google search more on this.

It is interesting that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob all seemed to know when they were to give their blessings. Abraham and Jacob both died right after blessing their children. Isaac lived more than 20 years after he gave Jacob the birthright blessing, but he thought he was near death when he gave it. What a blessing to be able to gather your family and bless them, recount how God worked in one's life, and die in peace.

Here are scriptures, hopefully these are helpful :

Genesis 49:16-18, Judges 18:1-31, 1 Kings 12:30, Amos 8:14, 2 Chronicles 16:4, 1 Kings 15:20, Jeremiah 8:14-17, * Deuteronomy 29:1-29,

Replaced by Manasseh, * Genesis 48:1-6, Numbers 26:28, Psalms 77:15,

Genesis 49:16-17 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel. Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that bite is the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backwards.

Those were the words of Jacob to Dan concerning The Last Days _ Genesis 49:1and Jacob called unto his sons, and said, gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days.



Isn't it possible and most likely that it is through the tribe of Dan that the Antichrist of the Beast shall arise from?

What Jacob said to Dan is almost the same exact words God said to the serpent in Eden after the fall of Adam - plus directly calling him a serpent.

The Tribe of Dan was lost in idolatry and was rebellious, if my understanding is correct, refuse the land God allotted him, wiped out a people and took their land.

If my belief is correct, all the original 12 Tribes of Israel will be present in the last day - one in the fallen state.

Brother Jesse.

Here's what I believe When Jesus finally ALLOWED them to present him as KING!!

Genesis 49:10-11. THE SCEPTER shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until SHILO come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

( BINDING HIS FOAL UNTO THE VINE, and HIS ASS'S COLT UNTO THE CHOICE VINE; )he washed his garments in wine, and his clothes in the blood of grapes:

Zechariah 9:9. Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy "KING" cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass.

Daniel 9:25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the MESSIAH THE PRINCE shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.

God bless

If Saturday is the Sabbath, why do we try to keep Sunday holy?

Hello Jannelle. I'm unsure what you are seeking as proof of Jacob's age at his death. We do have Genesis 47:28: "And Jacob lived in the land of Egypt seventeen years: so the whole age of Jacob was an hundred forty and seven years." If this verse isn't sufficient evidence, I doubt if anyone could dig up any other records to confirm this age, unless someone at the time of his death made some other record or inscribed this information on a rock or something. Till date, nothing else has surfaced, so we, as do the Jews, have to accept the age given in Genesis as true.

How can we prove Jacob's exact age at his death?

Samuel was of the Tribe of Levi

Preceded by Eli

Judge of Israel

Anointed Saul, King of Israel

Rebuked Saul

Anointed David, King of Israel

Elkanah lived in the mountains of Ephraim ( 1 Chronicles 6:16-30, 33-37); the Tribe of Levi was assigned to dwell in certain cities that were scattered throughout the tribes of Israel (Book of Genesis 49:6-7; Book of Numbers 35:6)

This is why Samuel could offer sacrifices. Levites did not have land of their own, but were scattered among the tribal allotments. Elkanah's tribal genealogy is made clear in I Chronicles 6:16-27. There the descendants of Levi down to Elkanah are listed. He was a descendant of Kohath, whose descendants were scattered throughout Judah, Simeon, Benjamin, Ephraim, Dan, and Manasseh ( Joshua 21:9-26). Verses 26-27 list the parallel to the I Samuel passage: "... Zophai his son, Nahath his son, Eliab his son, Jeroham his son, Elkanah his son" (ESV). To be sure, variant names are given in the two passages: Zophai and Zuph, Nahath and Tohu.

Hello Again, Chris,

Wow...that is awesome to me that you have been right here before! What a thing!!

But other than that, I think you have missed the point and Truth that indeed Joseph IS Ephraim, and that is what is being said in Revelation, especially being that Manasseh, the other half-tribe of Joseph in addition to Ephraim, is also separately listed...thus a FULL 12 - TWELVE - Tribes-of-Israel NAMES...but totaling only ELEVEN TRIBES are in Revelation chapter 7's TWELVE NAMES LISTING...12...BUT NOT DAN!! Revelation 7 is the only listing in the Bible of the 12 Tribes where Dan is missing!! And being that Revelation is discussing and REVEALING by Almighty God Jesus Christ things END-TIME...that makes the Judges 5:17 question of God's so, so critical for the Bible believer to come to the answer of that will absolutely prove THE END IS HERE!

So then going back to that I was saying before, and saying it a little differently, it is deeply alluded to that the student must pray and look for, per the 3 passages, Genesis 49:16-18, Judges 5:17 mid-clause, and Revelation 7, the "and why did Dan remain in ships?"! That is what I studied to find some years ago and was asking you about; and that I would like to show you, being that you have not yet found the answer to that question of God's!!

So let me say and ask it this way: do you have means to phone me here in the U.S.? I have never called long-distance on my cell phone, and have no idea how to set such a thing up. So, if you can?!...**** is my number!

Then, I am not talking any "prophetical interpretations"; nor am I at all involved with anyone else in finding these things in hundreds and even thousands of my-own-by-myself hours of study over the years...these things are clear and guaranteed, and I am sure a couple hours on the phone together would have you absolutely convinced of and thrilled at these things! Want to do it?!!

I am completely flexible time-wise, so you pick it! Cordially, Richard

Hello Chris,

So we are what, then, you being in Australia?...about 12 hours apart time-wise?, as I am presently in Salt Lake City, Utah, it being now 2:00 A.M., USA Mountain-time. (Don't worry, I am not at all so-blind, so-deceived, and so-misguided Mormon/LDS!)

Yes, I am up now in the wee-hours of the morning, as I often am in Bible reading, and writing what I hope are encouraging evangelical Bible messages to both email and to print to hand out in public places. I have no family other than a landscape-architect sister in South Carolina, and a retired policeman brother in Atlanta, Georgia; and plus being now basically retired myself due to Covid I can do just about any sort of wake/sleep schedule as I might like, thus my often being up much overnight!

Let me ask you, what do you find of Prophetic End-Times Truth in the Bible? I have discovered America in tremendous amounts - probably well over 100 mentions in the Old Testament - as well much of England/the UK-British Isles, and even some references probably of where you are, Australia. I have also found reference to John Lennon and that most evil of antiChrist songs, Imagine, that he hatefully in-His-Face wrote against Almighty God Jesus Christ years ago.

Have you ever noticed that interesting quandary about the Hebrew Tribe of Dan...that for all the mentions of that Tribe in all the listings of the 12 Tribes/12 Sons of Israel in the Bible, that Dan is completely missing in the End-Times Revelation chapter 7 listing of the 12 Tribes?! See Genesis 49:16-18, and the awesome question God asks in the middle clause of Judges 5:17! I have found the answer to the great quandary of those 3 passages - Rev. 7:4-8, Genesis 49:16-18, & Judges 5:17 middle clause 7 words...and they are full of End-Time significance, as one would expect being that these 3 areas of the Scriptures are indeed End-Time sections! I have even found substantiating secular proofs to these verses, thus showing the End is definitely here! Richard"

Genesis 49:27: "Benjamin shall ravin as a wolf: in the morning he shall devour the prey, and at night he shall divide the spoil."

As you know, Jacob, father of Benjamin, spoke these words of 'prophecy' before passing away. One would anticipate a word of blessing & comfort to his son & his progeny, but his words are what they are. In understanding them, Jacob is describing Benjamin as a wolf who is engaged all day long (morning and evening), in hunting after prey. He was fierce & turned out to be warlike in character and conduct (Judges chapters 20 & 21). As well to note, among Benjamin's descendants are Ehud, Saul, and Jonathan.

I would have great difficulty in seeing a personal application from this verse. Maybe, to not behave as Benjamin did: as he did wrong before God & the people and resorted to anger & had a propensity to battle. Rather, we should pursue righteousness, peace & holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord ( Hebrews 12:14).

Genesis 49v27

What doesnit means on human life or on everyday life or how would i apply the scripture apply in our life

i believe in every word in the bible & i would confess my sins , isn't that requiring a catholic church !!?? shall i be catholic or Protestant or Orthodox !!? as long as i'm non dimensional & not baptized !!??

by the way i love how in the catholic churchs when i hear them this way every Sunday , there is a catholic church in my city : that chanting & singing makes me too emotional & feeling that i belong to be next to them .

i'm addicted in reading the bible after seeing the lord jesus as he showed me the salvation from the vision , i woke up smiling & tried to resume sleeping even i'm late for university, i didn't care that day , i had the thirst to see him again and i feel all ready to be a pastor for his glory .

gonna keep studying the bible Philippians 1:11 , i still did not finish GENESIS because i'm analysing everything to finish building my soul in a christian thirst manner Isaiah 6:3 , so i will not ever lose the passion at all in jesus's spirite

Jude 1:20 .

he is all the way to salvation Ephesians 3:21 and Genesis 49:18

jesus came to me , he may knew my soul that fought against extrimism as a teenager & i been abused for the fights i had & now i'm a grown up man 23yo & i'm sure he been watching me when i was a child and a teenager & came that day 9/11/2020 to glorify me in the vision . John 3:16 & John 14:6

Danny Lawson, please read KJV Bible scriptures: 2 Samuel 12:23 Genesis 25:8 Genesis 35:29 Genesis 49:29 Numbers 20:24 Judges 2:10 Luke 22:17-18 Matthew 8:11 Matthew 17:1-3 1 Thessalonians 4:17 psalm 116:15 John 11:21-27.

My favorite! Makes me understand who God wants to rule and doesn't in the future for Israel, Thanks you!!

@ Irene123 Serpent in the dictionary is a large snake. Genesis 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, an adder in the path, that biteth the horse heels, so that his rider shall fall backward.
Never seen a frog bite a horse before LOL

I have read the Bible but I am re-reading it because I want true understanding and as I am re-reading through with different eyes I am connected and it seems as if I can visualize these things happening. I can get lost in what I am reading. I have to admit, I had to re-read chapter 49 and I still don't have clarity on it's meaning. I am going to read it again and disect every sentence.

Jesus is now in Heaven at the right hand of The Father.He sent His Spirit to guide us, give us comfort. He gives His Spirit to all who are Washed by The Blood of The Lamb! Jesus cannot be everywhere at one time He have a Body like us, His Spirit can.The Spirit wil be everywhere all at one Time. He will teach and guide us. We meet to praise Our Lord and to strengthen One another in The Faith. Amen.

Thomas Colbert, 9/10/'12 - SHILOH was a place in the O.T. that all the people gathered at to hear from God. Shiloh then was a shadow of Jesus, v. 10. Now in this N.T. age we still gather together at 'Shiloh', the church bldg., to hear from God. It's as simple as that. The ch. bldg. is where Jesus is now. He's everywhere at all times, OMNiSCIENT, yet more so when we gather - Heb. 10:25.

Jacob cursed Simeon and Levi's anger. This shows he did not approve of their angry and murderous ways in connection with the men of Shechem.

Dave read Gen 35:22 Reuben slept with Jacob's concubine.

Moses prayed that God would hear the voice of Judah during his times of distress, because as ' 'a lion, killing his victim and returning to his den... ' ' Judah would stand to defend the Kingdom of God. This was pictured in 2 Chronicles 13, ' 'And when Judah looked back, behold, the battle was before and behind: and they cried unto the LORD, and the priests sounded with the trumpets. Then the men of Judah gave a shout: and as the men of Judah shouted, it came to pass that God smote Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah. ' ' vv. 15-16. Moses requested that God would bring unite Judah unto his people. God originally, never planned that there would be any sort of schism among the tribes of Israel. He wanted them to be one strong, united nation not two nations. Moses, through the eyes of the Spirit, saw the separation of Judah from the rest of the tribes of Israel, and Moses prayed that God would unite them. Similarly, Jacob, their father, on his deathbed prophesied that when Shiloh Jesus, the Lion of the tribe of Judah comes, there shall be a gathering of His people Genesis 49:10 . This means, that Christ shall unite Israel both the physical and spiritual Israel at His second coming. Another blessing for Judah is that his hands would be sufficient for him and God would be his only aid. Yes, like a lion, Judah kills his victim and returns to his den. God strengthens them enough to defend their cause. They do not seek for an external aid to help them fight their battle. God is their only, and sufficient help.

great commentary! my friend and I found out heaps for our assignment

if we connect luke chapter 19 verse 30 to Genesis 49: 11

Describling a characteristic that shall be in the tribe of Judah, the donkey's colt represents humbless that our True King Jesus rode in on His way into Jerusalem the Holy City

what do you guys suppose ?