Discuss Genesis 4 Page 12

An age-old question, next only to: the eternal existence of God. It can never be satisfactorily answered except what we learn from Scripture & understanding of human biology. Some have talked of a pre-Adamic race or Cain & Abel had older siblings: but these are not scriptural. We often imagine these two brothers were young when Cain took Abel's life. Yet, they could have been much older (it has been suggested: over 100 yrs old). Adam lived for 930 yrs ( Gen 5:5) so the likelihood of many more children after Cain: with as many as 32,000 at the time of Abel's death. Then the question of incest arises, even if Cain married a sister, cousin, niece. Medically, this would be a grave problem as also against the law. However, Adam & Eve were created perfect with an untainted gene pool & only after the fall, would incest become a grave issue. So if Cain married before the tainted genes were passed on, then his marriage to a sister could be considered & this became unlawful in Lev chaps 18 & 20.

Adam and Eve had other children, so Cain's wife could have been one of his sisters. The bible doesn't tell us specifically who Cain's wife was. At that time, they were allowed to intermarry. That would be incest to us and considered sin. It was sin then also. But we have to understand that at that time, God had not yet given the law, so they did not know that it was a sin.

Romans 5:13 says "For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law." So sin was not imputed before the law was given because there was no knowledge of sin. Nobody knew what sin was, though sin was there.

How can Cain have a wife if Eve is the only woman ? Who is Cain's wife and where did she come from ?

To Jill: I'm pretty sure I didn't say 'pandemic'. I would've said that it qualifies as a pestilence because it is covering the earth. Only God can show us what it is. At present there seems to be suspicion that it was an accident in a lab. I will go back and see what is that I wrote.

What it is showing us is that as a nation we are unprepared to react swiftly to disasters. Also that in crisis we turn to God for our help. Psalm 91.

The word pandemic is not in the Bible. I think many people have been blissfully living their lives without God for a long time. The Bible and prayer were kicked out of school in the mid 60's.

The coronavirus is not end times. The world has gone through numerous pandemics, some of which continue yet today. To name a few pandemics...The 1918 flu, polio, malaria, SARS, MERS, AIDS. The Bubonic Plague killed 74 million people. That is only to name a few, there have been many more.

What else did Jesus say to those that thought that their works were important to salvation If ye were of Abraham, you would do the works of Abraham. Is that a contradiction No. What does the Bible say that Abraham did, his work Genesis states that Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him (Abraham) as righteousness. Your faith is what saves you, not your works. The story of Cain and Abel, is the story of the flesh (Cain), versus the Spirit of God (Abel), and how the flesh is always inferior to the Spirit. The Bible says that those that live in the flesh cannot please God, thus Cain's offering was not accepted, because it came from his ego, and his flesh. God bless, in Jesus' name.

The common thought is, that the offering that Cain gave was based on ego. Cain was basically saying: "Look at me, look at what I have done." Exalting himself, while trying to look pious. Basically, a humble-brag. In addition, Abel's offering is a foreshadowing of the sacrifice of Christ, and is meant to teach that there is no acceptance without the blood. You can also look at it in this context, the Israelites of old thought that they were safe from condemnation based entirely on their works. The Israelites said to Christ: We have Abraham as our father, but what did Jesus say to them That their father was the devil, and their works were false. Cain believed in his works, and Abel had faith

I have never understood why God was disappointed with Cain's gifts from tilling the earth?

Here's a related verse: 2 Corinthians 6:14. I think it's good to share the gospel, be a living testimony and give people a chance, however. That's my opinion. People should generally not expect someone else to change, however.

What about different religions falling in love? If we love Jesus with all our heart might and sole should we not stay from the heart

Just know that you do not have to go to a church to be saved. What saves you is coming to a place of brokenness where you see your own sins and how you have to repent and turn from your sins and turn to Christ Jesus and make him Lord over everything in your life. He will then give you a new heart that has new desires and wants to please and serve Him only. That is why the pastor said that if you can't pin point a time when you were saved, then it wasn't a true conversion. God bless you.

I thought that I was saved for close to 9 years and at church camp last year the speaker us going around the room asking when we got saved saying that if we was truly saved we should be able to tell him when we got saved and the whole time I was hoping he wouldn't call on me. I could not think of when I got saved, that is when I truly realized I was not saved. I denied it for about half a year then one day I was at my sisters church and the pastor was talking about when the Lord comes back how we need to be ready, I kept on talking my self out of going to the alter because I didn't go there. The next Sunday my preacher preached on the exact same thing and I went to the alter and got saved.

Nobody on earth knows why the corona virus is happening but, we do know that the Lord has a plan for us and we just have to trust him through it all. Even if it gets hard to stay in the Word it is important to know that we have a God that is always with us, even if it feels like God isn't there with you then you have moved away from God. He never leaves us.

Revelation 6:9 And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
These souls are in heaven awaiting their resurrection new bodies. they are with Christ.

Which is the true answer from the Bible only. Does our spirit go up to heaven right after death? Or do we all wait in our graves for our Lord Jesus to take us up with him in the end?

we should not give praise to mary. only jesus died for our sins mary was just a vessel

I am enjoying studying Father God, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit, Mother Mary, and The Holy Bible King James Version, with you.

...in the Last days... will get you started. This website has a great search engine. Look around for other links describing the approach of armageddon

How can Jesus be in the grave 3-days and 3-nights and rise on the third day?

ask maybe I can help

What chapter starts with David as king

I have questions about the apocalypse

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read Gen. again. Adam and Eve had more sons and daughters. Where do you think Cain got his wife? From one of his sisters.

No, You are here, are you not. Jesus said where 2 or three are gathered together (Christians), There I am amongst them. So we are the church.

I don't know the outcome but in Revelations there is a virus that comes before the end which will kill 1/3 of the people on earth. Could it be the coronavirus?

Thanks for sharing and staying positive. Blessings!

The Bible says not to forsake gathering together. Our testimonies help others who are going through trials. Although it's not good for us to hole up in the house 24/7.
I think we are all gathering together on here, don't you? It helps me see what everyone else is writing. :)

Assembling and fellowship is recommended to keep strong in faith and keep accountability. I think God is a fair judge. I think there are situations where getting together with other believers is a challenge. Some missionaries are alone. Some have high responsibility at work that limits other interactions. What does your heart say? Do you have the holy spirit inside you convicting you one way or the other? These are important considerations. Christians are intended to be part of the Christian church community. During times of a corona virus I think online allows us to still have a valid connection with other believers.

God allows things to happen that we consider 'bad'. Life is a test and we're all going to die. The only thing undetermined is when. Have we considered the consequences of our actions? Have we loved others and chosen to follow Jesus?