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Cain's works in the field did not show where His offering was to God. When God cast man out, they were to work by the sweat of their brow. Cain shows that this was his worldly commission. When it came to the sacrifices, Abel offered humble and acceptable. Cain offered the leftovers so to say (it was unacceptable). To add to that, when his offering was rejected...he offers a blood sacrifice of his own brother. God never needs a reason to judge anyone or anything because of His divine authority. In this case, we see plenty reason here that Cain should have been cast out.

If Cain was the tiller of the ground and Cain brought the fruit of the ground to offering. So why was God not respect his offering.

Genesis 1:27,28

Genesis 4:13-16,

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Genesis 1:26,27,28, Genesis 4:16,

Genesis 4,

Interestingly the Garden was in GOD's presence, Genesis 3:8,

Cain fleed GOD's presence, couldn't it be the Garden representative of the "vinedressers" "stewards" of the Church? Genesis 2:8,9,15, Matthew 20:1-16, Seth is the lineage of Jesus CHRIST, Luke 3:21-38,

There are many people mentioned in Genesis 4, & different trades,jobs, skills to spread throughout the Earth as commanded by GOD in Genesis 1:28

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Hello Mr. Adam Clark:

First and foremost are you saved by the blood of the crucified Jesus Christ in whom we received all treasures and knowledge by acknowledging the mystery of God and of the Father, of Christ His Son (One God in three persons-The Trinity)? Colossians 1:27-28 To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory: Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:

I just have noticed some contentions about this in some comments. We can talk about the end times but it is very important to ALL that they know 100% they are saved and that they are going to Heaven. Noticed even in the beginning God gave us the messages on the importance of the blood from Genesis to Revelation.

The LORD God must have sacrificed blood, for it maybe a lamb to make coats of skins to clothed Adam and Eve. Genesis 3:21

We also see the importance of blood sacrifices between Cain and Abel. Genesis 4:3 Understand the motive of Cain. He offered the fruit of the ground whereby Cain worked hard for it. Like saying to God "Look what I did". I say this because of v5. In v4 Abel was respected because of animal blood sacrificed. This story depicted not of what you do, God is interested in you acknowledging the blood which are examples of a type of what later Jesus Christ would do as our own lamb. Clearly here we are saved by the blood and not by works.

Colossians 1:5; 1:14; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

You can read in Leviticus that they have to kill a lamb over and over again in order to get forgiveness of sins. Now look at Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul. Your soul being forgiven through blood. Revelation1:5;5:9. Are you saved by the blood of Jesus Christ?

Great decision, to read throughout the Bible!!

Please start with : James 1:5,

It's amazing over many years of reading, rereading & studying, GOD can teach us something new every time. Hopefully you'll continue to read it several times.

Son's of GOD = Genesis 6:2, notice: Genesis 4:26, = John 1:12, Romans 8:14, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1, 2

Job 1:6, Job 2:1, = notice the vrs. right before, Job 1:5, & right before, Job 2, Job 1:20-22, Revelation 12:10,

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Randy,

A Christian since 1968, very encouraging! Especially that you're reading throughout the Bible again into study! I hope you'll keep us in your study as you go. Many of us enjoy deep study & thought in the WORD of GOD.

There seems to be several scriptures to verify your thought, of multiple people: Genesis 1:27, let them have dominion over ._... fish, of the sea, fowl of the air, over every living thing, that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 4:1,2,8,13,14, Notice Genesis 4:13-17, Genesis 4:25,

also notice by now to continue for some people to try to say "only Adam & Eve" would be to ignore all the facts of other people listed.

Genesis 4:19,23,24,

Genesis 5:1-2, interestingly they both male & female named "Adam"

If you look in the Concordance by clicking on Genesis 1:27, man = mankind, human spelled English translated = the Hebrew name Adam sounds (aw-dawm)

Please also notice Genesis 6:5,7,12,17, why would GOD destroy the whole earth if only Adam & Eve, 1 lineage which is listed in the records of Genesis were only on Earth?

Genesis 5:3, Genesis 2:7,8,15,22, Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:45, 1Chronicles 1:1, Luke 3:21-38,

Sometimes we have to ask questions

1st does an interpretation represent GOD's Laws, standards, examples? Leviticus 20:17, 1Corinthians 10:13, James 1:13-15, Proverbs 11:1,

2nd What is the main points GOD is pointing us to? Romans 5:17-21,

3rd, does it feel right, truthful, honest in our spirit? John 14:26,27, James 1:5, 1John 2:27-29,

I believe the reason anyone has questioned outside what is written, is because false teaching: Note: 1John 2:26-29, 2Peter 2:1, 2Timothy 3:1-5,

1John 4:1, 1Timothy 6:3-6,

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Hello, today i have decided to read through the bible starting from the beginning to the end, which I have never done before.

Naturally I have a few questions and I would like to think about them before moving on.

1: In Genesis 1:26 God said "let us create man in our image". Who are the "us" and "our" in this sentence? Then in Genesis 1:27 "he created male and female" I thought this was Adam and Eve, however in Genesis 2:7 it goes on to say that "on the seventh day that God rested. However it goes on to say that he created man from the dust of the ground". Further, it states in Genesis 2:22 that he then created woman. Were these different sets of people?

2: Genesis 4:5 Why did the Lord not have any respect for Cains' offering? The bible does not offer any explanation?

3: Genesis 4:15 What kind of mark did the lord place upon Cain after he slew his brother Abel?

4: Genesis 6 Who are the "sons of God" who took themselves daughters of men? And who were the giants mentioned in Genesis 6:4?

Thank you to anyone who is able to answer some or all of these questions for me. I am in no hurry to rush through all of the chapters and would just like to gain a better understanding before I proceed. Thank you and God bless.

Albert The question answers itself since the true God and father of our lord Jesus Christ is all good then logically the adversary or satan is the author of all evil so cain was spiritually his child not by flesh and blood. Look at acts 13:10 Paul calls out elymus

the sorcerer and he became blind. Also in john 8 starting verse 13 talkuing to the leaders ye are from beneath Iam from above

also verses 38-44 same people and in verse 44 ye are of or from your father the devil this is spiritual not physical. a person can get born again of the true God and a persson can get born again of satan which is irreversable which is why Jesus Christ said to

ythem you will die in your sin they were unredeemable. It is written

I wonder where did his evil ways come from

Yes brother he is.

Yes Albert. Cain is Adams son.

There is no denying this.

Genesis 4:1. And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

is cain adams son?

Hello Mary. There were two Enochs mentioned in the Bible. The first one is given in Genesis 4:16-18: after Cain went to dwell in the land of Nod, he 'knew' his wife, & she bore a son, Enoch. We don't know Cain's wife's name.

Then in Genesis 5:18, following in the godly line of Seth, we read of Jared. And a son was born to him, named Enoch. Again, the wife is not mentioned, as was often the case - possibly to confine the lineage to the male descendants & how people were 'categorized' in those days (i.e. son of a father). And Genesis chapter 5 goes on to share a little more of this Enoch, that he was a godly man & God had taken him to Heaven before the end of his days (vv 21-24).

Hi Jerry. The Apostle Jude is speaking of the Enoch that is referred to in Genesis 5:18-24 and not the Enoch of Genesis 4:17, who was the grandson of Adam. So the Enoch of Genesis chapter 5 was the seventh in line from Adam, viz. Adam, Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch ( Genesis 5:3-24). However, Jude's quotation of Enoch's prophecy is not found anywhere else in the Bible; he may have learned about it from other manuscripts not available to us & this was then later incorporated into the non-canonical Book of Enoch (as the prophecy shown in Jude & the Book of Enoch are not entirely the same).

Hello Fabian TAIMABRI,

Genesis 1:27, notice: Genesis 1:26,28,29,

Genesis 2:7, interestingly here "formed, breathed life" is this symbolic of the Church the body of Christ to come? John 12:25, Genesis 3:22, John 5:26, John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:48,54, Titus 1:2, Romans 8:6, John 5:39,

Is chapter 2, symbolic of the stewardship of GOD's Church? Genesis 2:15, Matthew 20:8, Luke 12:42, Mark 12,

Back to Genesis 1, "man appears to be collective for both" yes in name like human, humanity, humankind "man"

see even more interesting = Genesis 5:2,

GOD says distinctly female & male Genesis 1:27,

It appears it could be those created to multiply, fill the earth, subdue were away from the presence of GOD, again seeming to point to the symbolism in the garden "in the presence of GOD " His church. Genesis 3:8, Genesis 3:23-24, Genesis 4:14-16,

Genesis 2:17, spiritual death? Matthew 8:22, Luke 9:60, Matthew 22:32, Matthew 23:27,

In the forming of Eve, it appears also specific, spiritual & special with symbolism, Genesis 2:21-25, Genesis 6:1-3, Mark 10:4-9, 1Corinthians 6:15, Revelation 21:2,9, Isaiah 62:5, John 3:29-36, Matthew 22, Luke 12:36, Ephesians 5:30-32,

1Corinthians 13:9-12, James 1:5, Ephesians 3:4,

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Dav47,

Genesis 4:1, Genesis 4:2, Seems to clearly state these are seperate births. Twins are also seemingly clearly described within the Bible Genesis 25:22-26, Esau & Jacob being fraternal twins, Genesis 38:27, Pharez & Zarah.

We need to be careful not to add to scripture.

Genesis 2:5

Creation is completed and God creates Adam ; then Eve (from Adams rib).

That is where the generation of human beings Started.

There was a 6th day creation (Gen.1:26) of races and another 8th day creation ( Gen. 2:7) from Caucasian race from which CHRIST would be born. It is plain in Hebrew MS of the difference between 6th day and 8th day creations. Mans dated time of history starts with (Heb.-eth haw adam)_= the man Adam. But other races had a better than 1k year start on the Caucasian race from which CHRIST would come.

Genesis 1:26; In the Hebrew manuscript's, man here is adam pronounced aw-dawm meaning human race. Adam here has no Hebrew article (eth=the). All other races were created on the sixth day and placed in their chosen lands, except "the man" of Genesis 2:7. God made fisher's, hunters, says nothing about husbandman as of yet, doesn't come until 8th day. Gen. 2:5 is of 1 specific race-a tiller of the ground Gods chosen people. It is not a recount of Gen. 1:26 (human race). It is impossible to get all the races of the world out of 1 ruddy complexion couple. Cain is not in the Genealogy of Adam Genesis 5:1 for he was not of Adam. Cain's genealogy starts in Genesis 4:17 where he knew his wife in the land of Nod East of Eden from peoples of 6th day creation, an already thriving community that had a better than 1k year start on the man Adam (ruddy complected). From umbilical cord to umbilical cord CHRIST-savior of all would come.

Hi Kate.

Genesis 4:16-17. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

AND CAIN KNEW HIS WIFE; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

I believe Cain was already married when he went out from the presence of the LORD.

ALL people come from Adam and Eve.

God bless.

I love reading king james version

All people came through Adam and Eve. God used one of Adams ribs to make Eve. Read of this through Genesis 1:26 through to Genesis 2:20-25

Moses wrote it this way; for reasons. He wrote the first 5 Books of Genesis. During the Exodus too. He was trying to handle this all by himself, but came to a point when he appointed people to assist him with the care and problems of the exodus people, on the way to the Promised Land.

Have you ever been writing something important and people interrupt you with: the battery in my car is dead. I need help? That's what was happening to Moses.

So there are 2 places for you to read about man and woman's creation. Read those 2 scripture references. :)

And__teach it to other people.

The story of how Cain came to be killed is fascinating. You might have to look at those Geneologies in the Scriptures. Sometimes the Geneological Charts on Google is helpful.

Remember that Jesus's Bloodline was moving through Seth's BLoodline.

Genesis 1:26-27,

Where did the wives come from if not from Adam and Eve for Cain, Enoch, etc?

Hi Dianne.

It says who plainly!

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Genesis 4:1.

Why do you ask in that way?

"Who ( REALLY ) fathered Cain."

Is there anything reason we shouldn't trust what's written?

If we can't trust what's written so plainly the question is why don't I believe the Bible.

Jesus often referred to "What is written'.

God bless.

I found another scripture after I answered your question, GOD is amazing! Seek & you shall find:

Hebrews 11:4, Matthew 23:35, Hebrews 11:24

yea but,that wouldn't have been enough reason to kill his only brother at that time,i gathered some more information says that cain took one of his brother sheep for meat,without asking and abel realized that and he took some of cains fruits& wheat and they confronted each others and anger appeared. all was very helpful thanks karen.

He was jealous. God looked favourably upon Abel and his offering because of his faith. Cain had a bad attitude and his offering was not favoured.

Genesis 3:3-8,

James 4:1-12, James 1:12-27,