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MYSTERY OF THE NEPHILIM REVEALED

Gen.6:4

Scriptural Facts:

1. Heavenly or Fallen Angels can not procreate according to biblical scripture. ( Matt. 22:30; Mark 12:25; Luke 20:34)

2. There is no evidence from the dead sea scrolls on gen.6:4 that the Nephilim were the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of men.

3. The Nephilim were present before and after the sons of God and daughters of man had intercourse.

4. Sons of God could mean holy Angels or holy men according to scripture. ( Job 1:6; 2:1), ( Psalm 82:6, Hos. 1:10; John 10:34-38, Matt. 5:9; Luke 3:38; Rom. 8:14)

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Knowing these facts; we can rule out that the sons of God are angels in gen 6:4 because they procreate.

Therefore, they must be men that had God's favor(Seth's lineage). The daughters of man would be women without God's favor(Cain's lineage). Their offspring would be human.

What are these Nephilim?

Well, they can't be the offspring of the sons of God and daughters of man according to the facts stated above; because the nephilim were present when the sons of God lusted the daughters of man. How could the Nephilim be present when the sons of God first had sex with the daughters on man? Wouldn't they need to be born first?

The interpretation from a root word naphil of Nephilim means fallen ones.

Look at the similarities of seraphim and cherubim. Now look at Nephilim.

Seraphim and Cherubim are Holy Angels.

Doesn't it make since that the Nephilim would be Fallen angels?

The men of renown is another way of referring to famous biblical characters like Adam, seth, Enoch, and Noah.

How did the spies from moses know what the Nephilim looked like or were?

Stories told from generation to generation about them being frightening.

When the spies saw giant men, they were frightened and thought they were the Nephilim.

The Nephilim most likely tempted the sons of God and daughters of man.

The Nephilim were fallen Angels not human. Goliath was a man.

28 Therefore in the resurrection whose wife shall she be of the seven? for they all had her.

29 Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God.

30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Comment: It is the believers that will be like the angels of God in heaven.

That's a big deal to process. A lot of people in past days have been fixated on A False Doctrine being taught that Eve had sex with satan. See how easily false prophets put out false doctrines like a new brand of sneakers? Stay focused. The Bible warns us that this will be a huge problem in the final days: being led away; wandering off.

Heaven is going to be fun. Stop thinking carnal. We're supposed to be crucifying our own flesh, daily.

Better to marry than burn with lust.

(Advice) marry a Christian.

Mishael

Extreme fixation on angels and human sex organs could be cured by spending an hour praying in the Prayer Request Room. With people who have real problems and need someone who knows how to pray with a little mercy and grace.

Jesus didn't think of it as a waste of time. He's at the right hand of God right now praying for all saints. (US)

Have you read all of Mathew 26 ?

Red letters...

Correct. Angels good and bad ones have no sex organs. They neither marry or are given in marriage.

correct. Sons of God are humans. I'm a son of God.

Even IF there was a dual/parallel creation by God, Genesis chapter 6 declares that God would "destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them". Genesis 6:7. "But Noah found grace in the Eyes of the LORD".

So IF all the "creations" of God were destroyed by the flood, bar the "eight souls" ( 1 Peter 3:20), & I'm a Gentile (a part of the first creation & not of Adam's line) & therefore not in the line of Adam - Noah - Abraham - David - Jesus, then in fact, I don't exist.

And IF God's Judgement by the flood was restricted only to Adam's progeny because of their "wickedness being great", then why overlook those "Gentiles" who would also have been wicked because of their sin & not include them in the worldwide destruction - or maybe they were sinless & needed no judgement as we're not told that sin was in them nor passed onto them? Then this might give some added weight to our 'sinless perfection' brethren's argument, sans their need of Christ. The mind starts to boggle indeed. Or, maybe there's a link that I've missed.

Before they were cast out of heaven with Lucifer: Lucifer was an archangel. The 1/3 of the angels cast out with him had bodies.

You explain to me how the (evil) angels procreated with Daughters of Adam and Eve and giants were born. How did Goliath get a giant body?

I read Genesis and other books at a snails crawl, PLUS I read every reference to those scriptures. Write it down chronologically. Then I pray for the Holy Spirit to show me how it happened.

It takes time! I love to study. I love to uncover mysteries. It's in my dna. When I was drafting (18 yrs), the boss would drop table-size drawings on my desk to redraw because the engineers had trouble making underground jobs work. I call it spaghetti drafting. Dump the whole bowl out, start at the beginning, draw it to scale to the end. I identify all the branches. I love details, but I love God greater than all that. I'm eternally grateful He pulled me out of the pit and set his love on me. Means more to me than my life. I died, but He resurrected me and He is my north arrow. I wish I could explain better.

I let go of the world. I've been single 37 yrs. Studying Gods Word (Bible) for 36 years. Nothing else satisfies better than the things that God will reveal. I wait days to hear or see Him show me things. I go days without food. Daily life interrupts. One time the Holy Spirit sang: There's Room at the Cross For You. The pure sweetness brought tears of deep joy. Any thing I learn; I share it.

Like now: you are going to LOVE heaven. He has spared no effort to make it leave you breathless at the Beauty, the detail of each creation. There will be food even tho we don't have to eat or drink. There will be music, dancing, wild abandon of pure joy. Nobody is jealous, petty, impatient, no disdain. It really is heaven.

Live for Him now. Let the world go. Help others be ready to go with Jesus now. That's what He intercedes for: the Harvest.

Bless you. Mishael.

Evil spirits do not have bodies of flesh , but the can possess people and animals ,

The sons of God here in Genesis, are Gods people at that time , if you will notice be fore that time men began to call on the Lord , these are the sons of God ...

They are unable to mate , not possible , just another heresy going around

They recently, 2018, found one of thiese giants that had wiped out a platoon of Texas Rangers, I believe, and sent another platoon in to find out what happened, this was in Afghanistan...his bones were so strong that standard longrifles could not penetrate to get into the vital organs to kill it...it was arilifted back to an army base there and never seen again...the worlds way of covering up anything that leads to Scripture and there being a God of creation...It is very difficult in today's world to try and find real truth about anything...I was born and raised Catholic, read the KJV Bible at 23, found out many lies the Catholic church printed and the same with the Protestant church...that is why I depend on the baptism in the Holy Spirit at age 23 to test truth...Bottom Line...Christ is the only way to the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob...confession of Him and believing that God raised Him is salvation...living the cleanest life we can live, but knowing our sins, all our sins can be forgiven just by asking and trusting in the healing power of His Blood...

Why did God allow the sons of God, or fallen angels, to mate with humans???

That was really good.

I just read that in my devotions.

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Jim, it was troubling to read your understanding of Genesis chap 6 & particularly likening the Almighty God to a child throwing a 'hissy fit'. You demonstrate a very poor understanding of the Doctrine of God if all you can see in that passage is a simple-minded, irrational God.

If God Who has the wisdom & power to create all things out of nothing, but as you state, shown Himself to be incapable of controlling His Anger & not displaying the required commonsense, then where does your determination leave you as a simple sinful created being speaking so highly & ignorantly against the Holy Living God?

Could not your 'wisdom' in judging the Character of God as being flawed, leave you wallowing in your ignorance as one who is destitute of knowledge of Who God is & of His Plans for mankind, that you attempt to make judgement on? It seems that you would need to be at God's side, in full knowledge of His Plans & Purposes, seeing the rampant wickedness of mankind, noting the "preacher of righteousness" (Noah, 2 Peter 2:5) living amongst the wicked, & God's desire to give mankind another chance rather than wiping them all out forever, before even a reasonable judgement from you can be given.

Rather, we should all plead ignorance on matters that are way beyond our knowledge & our limited narrow worldly perspectives & submit to the All-Wise God Whose Word that goes out accomplishes all that He pleases. By declaring what you have just said only serves to demonstrate that part of your thinking that is perverted & in darkness about the God before Whom you will one day have to stand.

14 What then shall we say?(AC) Is God unjust? Not at all!(AD) 15 For he says to Moses,

"I will have mercy on whom I have mercy,

and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion."[f](AE)

16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God's mercy.(AF) 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth."[g](AG) 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.(AH)

Genesis 6 clearly demonstrates that God has the mind of a toddler or small child, throwing a hissy fit over his creation and then getting angry and murdering them, before crying over having had a hissy fit and getting upset and saving noah. No adult doesn't just pull all the weeds because one is a dandelion and looks like a flower - no, an adult will pull all the weeds, i.e. not save noah because he appears as though he is not a weed, even though he was, being human.

Regarding Celine's question on Genesis 6:3: The 120 years may be referring to the time from the moment the Lord spoke those words until the flood commenced.

Hi Ken Reeder,

Many believe that it took Noah about 100 years to build the ark, (with the help of his three sons).

Noah was commissioned to build the ark by God at approximately the same time his three sons were born (not triplets), look at Genesis 5:32, 6:10-14.

Noah was 600 years old when the ark was finished ( Genesis 7:6).

Genesis is an amazing book, one of my personal favorites!

Blessings

How long did it take to build the ark ?

Hi Linda,

Gen 6:2, 4, Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7, Psalms 29:1, 89:6, Dan 3:25) refer to the expression "sons of God." I believe that this is the Hebrew idiom referring to angels. It is a figure of speech.

I believe that the sons of God left heaven, came down to earth ( Jude 1:6), and took to wife all of whom they chose from the daughters of Adam. The children of these marriages were the giants. The giants were there on earth before the flood, and "also after that" ( Genesis 6:4), meaning that they did indeed survive the flood, and the giants are mentioned throughout the Bible.

Noah is the representative at this time period for the seed line that will bring forth the Messiah.

Sometimes we're given a little more information about those that lived between Adam & Noah, but not a lot which would require volumes more to include details of their lives, their marriages, exploits, religious observances or diversions, etc. The Bible does focus on the generations leading up to the birth of Jesus Christ so one can track His lineage all the way back to Adam: Luke 3:23-38.

However, post Flood, God's chosen (Israel) came through the line of Shem, Noah's eldest son.

Why is there never any story told about the sons of God and the daughters of men in chapter 5 v 2 It seems to me that this should be expanded on determining Gods chosen people through Adam.

When reading the Word & its use of this word, 'heaven', I see it applied in four ways:

a. the sky/atmosphere or troposphere & this goes to an altitude of approx. fifteen miles. Genesis 6:7, James 5:18 as examples.

b. the celestial (outer space) of planets, stars & constellations. Deuteronomy 4:19, Matthew 24:29.

c. the Place of God's Abode. Hebrews 8:1, Acts 7:56.

d. the new Heaven (& Earth) that is yet to come after all the corrupt Earth & Sky are dissolved. Isaiah 65:17, Revelation 21:1.

Hunter - do not read between the lines, or try and do the least for Christ's sake. Romans Chapter 1 is very clean what has happened in the the past and what is currently happening today around the world. Do not be fooled as God is not mocked.

Romans Chapter 1 V 22-32

22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

We all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. But, if you are God's then you will take up your cross daily, and fight the good fight of righteousness. May God Bless your days - strengthening you.

ROMANS Ch. 1:

27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompense of their error which was meet.

28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,

30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,

31 Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them......../////This last Verse says it ALL...YLBD

I have no idea what you're saying or asking.

where in the bible does it say that being ay is a sin cuz i read it and it says it brings sin not that it is sin adn everyhting brigns sin

Can angles and humans have children?

Are these children the giants of Genesis 6:2-4?

Genesis 5:5-32 ,

Genesis 6 - 10

Genesis 11:10-32

Hopefully this is helpful in your studies

Psalm 90,

Ecclesiastes 7:17

Exodus 20:12

Wondering how to reconcile the years of man: in Gen 6 it's 120yrs but in Psalm 90 it's 70 yrs. And although some say it was pre-flood and post flood--do you have any other thoughts why?

Thanks.

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