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If you really want to know about the Giants look in youtube for Giants Found and you will see that these men were/are real and actually existed! God reveals to man thru the Holy Spirit and men wrote it down for the future generations of childrens yet unborn. Praise God! God is TRUTH!!

everything the bible said happened, really happened!

sorry, jennifer, both you and wesley are way off. do you know the only reason that interpretation was used was because people just found it too incredible? but isnt the Bible filled with the incredible? angels were not supposed to, but these were FALLEN angels, who were attempting to contaminate the human bloodline and stave off the birth of Jesus. you'll notice that noah is described as "perfect in his generations", meaning exactly what it says, his bloodline was not polluted. even jude 1:6-7 says 6 "And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire". so yes angels are not supposed to have sex w/ humans but these guys did and were punished. the "myths" of zeus, apollo, and hercules were all true. the fallen angels claimed to be gods and the people worshipped them. the giants were called "heroes, men of renown". nothing i say is unBiblical. the Bible doesnt get into it but the inferences are there. the book of enoch is more descriptive. the book of enoch is considered apochrapal because of its subject matter and was taken out of the Bible by the catholic church. but several copies of the book of enoch were found w/ the Dead Sea Scrolls.

I believe that the "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were fallen angels. One reason why is because angels are called "sons of God" in Job 1:6, 2:1 38:7, plus it says in 2 Peter 2:4, "For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment"
What was their sin? It couldn't have been the sin of rebellion, because otherwise, all the fallen angels would be in hell, and we know that they are not. Only some of the fallen angels married women of the earth and sired children who ended up being giants, and that was the sin that 2 Peter 2:4 is talking about, and Jude 6 speaks more about that sin, it speaks of angels that kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation. A group of fallen angels did not keep their first estate, but left it to come down to earth and either took on human form or possessed the bodys of earth men and mated with earth women, and the result was a race of giants, and that was the sin that 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 6 is talking about. If "sons of God" in Genesis 6 were the line of seth or just men in general, why does it use the word "men" then "sons of God" if men and sons of God both refer to men? The word "men" is in verse 1, and "sons of God" and "men" are in verse 2. "sons of God" and "men" are in verse 4. "sons of God" and "men" must be two different types of beings, otherwise, why not just use the word "men" instead of "sons of God" as well?

If the sons of God were the godly line of Seth who were unequally yoked together with the ungodly daughters of Cain, I doubt that that would cause their offspring to be giants. They were giant in size because in Numbers 13:33 it says, "And there we saw the giants {nephelim in Hebrew} and it goes on to say, "and we were in our own sight grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight. So the nephelim in Gen. 6 must have been giant is size just like the nephelim in Numbers 13, and something happened to make them giant sized, and it could not have been because of godly men marrying ungodly women. Something else went on to make them giants, and that was the unnatural union between angels and earth women who married and had sex.

I like Butch's statement about the use of the word renown, if taken by the meaning of the word it leaves the impression that they/are good which they were not it seems.

Joe! Who told you that angels are sexless? Read the book of Jude and learn about the angels who had left their first estate. I personally know of demon oppressed people who have been sexually molested by demons, while lying in bed next to their husbands. The scripture is accurate.

Personally i feel i am unable to firmly grasp the concept of this passage i have read several times over and am unable to find anything about the fallen angels. I have read about the giants however but again do not fully understand the gravity with which this passage holds if anyone can shed some light on this it would be very much appreciated.

I am thinking of God's promise, and how He fulfills His promise

Wesley did just fine explaining this verse. Angels have never in scripture, or other wise, had sexual relations...

Love this Chapter. Not only did the angels find a way to produce a hybrid being, they taught humans heavenly secrets and understandings. Fallen angels didn't account for humans being just that, Human and that God's word was, is and always shall be. It will be and be and be. Then include you through grace and be some more. Anyhow, Part angel part human, where do they go when you die? Nowhere! Confined to the earth where they will hunger, thirst and have no rest. Demons. We know what's up. We don't know the behind the scenes part of the story. What really went down that would cause there to be room in heaven and that evil should try and prevent any one human at all, from getting there?

I don't know ,but I think the angels do they are masculine in gender, but they are sexless, how could it they be married with human? I need to study more about these verse.

this passage speaks of the giants born of the unholy union of fallen angels and human women. "in the earth in those days, and after that" means that before the Flood, these beings were rampant on the earth. after the Flood destroyed them however, it sounds like there was ANOTHER incursion to earth by fallen angels and again they sired these evil deformed giants that were an abomination in the eyes of God. "mighty men which were of old, men of reknown" is NOT a compliment. its meant to convey the giants strength and their pride in their strength.

ralph, dinosaurs are mentioned in other passages (leviathan and behemoth) in the Bible but this passage is about the Nephilim, the fallen ones, that the fallen angels sired.

good old wesley has the translation all wrong. there are no "sons of seth" or "daughters of cain". the sons of God are fallen angels who forsook their heavenly estate and had sex w/ human women, producing evil, deformed giants. this was an abomination in the eyes of God and was one of the reasons God destroyed the earth w/ the flood because the fallen angels had corrupted the human bloodline.

response to Brian C Lee; For the latest in God's solution for people in trouble, I recommend reading in the New Testament. For starters, maybe John 3, Romans 8, & 1 Jn 1:9. These promises are sure for anyone who yields to Jesus; trusting in Him. The wonderful plan is fortold throughout the Old Testament, but harder to understand. May our Lord direct you to his goodness. love ya.

my dad is lucifer so i definately beleive in angels having sex with humans. but just because i am his son doesnt mean im evil. i too would like to know the truth about the giants and mighty men and what they are really up to. all i know so far is i feel like a body that has been born to be harvested. let it not be so,Oh LORD please strive with me i will listen save me from these evil sons who betrayed you long ago and know torture us and our friends our mother earth and her precious blood , Oh LORD forgive me for i know not what ive done.

How long did he live???? Who is mentioned in Genesis 6:3 and 4?

@Daniel Brown

No, I'm not Mormon. I've never read the book of Jasher. My beliefs are not Mormon. The only church I've ever been associated with is the Seventh Day Adventist church, of which I am no longer in association with.

This will be the final time I post here, and I truly mean this. The only reason I came back is because GOD gave me one last argument to present before I left this page for good. I felt obligated to present it to you because I care about Him, His word, and whether or not it is being represented correctly.

"The Sons of GOD" are not angels. Firstly, without your book of Enoch, there isn't any proof of this. One cross reference to Enoch in the book of Jude isn't enough to prove that the book of Enoch isn't a false book.

Secondly, I would like to direct you to John 1:12, which reads: "But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:" KJV

Right there, in that verse, the sons of God are those who believe in Him. Just as I said from the beginning. Seth's bloodline were those who believed in GOD and stayed true to His word.

Still not convinced? After all, you might argue that humans become angels and therefore "sons of God" could still be referring to angels. This is a very common belief amongst Christians. I would like to tell you that this is also incorrect.

Take a look at Hebrews 1:13&14 KJV - "But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right
hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation?"

In this text, Angels are described as spirits that were sent to minister for the heirs of salvation. The heirs of salvation are those who believe in Jesus Christ and are saved by Him. So if Angels are spirits that minister to the saved, then the saved can't be the same as Angels! Therefore, the humans becoming angels argument gets thrown out the window.

The Sons of GOD are those who believe in the LORD. Pure and simple. I'll take what the Bible says over ridiculous conspiracy theory that has absolutely no backing whatsoever other than a book of questionable authority and a few Bible verses taken out of context any day of the week.

Once again, dealing with a twenty four hour day. This passage allow room to understand that DINOSAURS existed. (There were giants in the earth in those days;)and men of renown. A separation between DINOSAURS AND ANGELS.
Therefore, this shows the times of the Prehistoric Age.

WOW! That is so awesomely beautiful how the Lord Jesus made Himself known One on one to you in those 14 seconds. No, there's no reincarnation of mankind, as far as any of us having lived prior to this life.

There are devils; evil spirits; evil angels, who WERE God's angels, and thus 'sons of God,' who, along with Lucifer (now Satan,) turned from God, and fell from Heaven, and had sexual relations with some of the women of mankind, which women therefore had children by those devils.

While one may say that those children were half human; mankind, and half-devil, that's not the case. As, the ONLY thing human; mankind, about them would be their 'fleshly bodies.' Inside those bodies were NOT any SOULS, but evil spirits; devils. And God's Word referes to those devils as 'men of renown,' because they lived prior to being born into human bodies.


Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of RENOWN.


But I can understand why you would feel like you were one of the apostles, because once you received Jesus Christ, you became a member of 'the FAMILY OF JESUS CHRIST.' We cannot help from feeling like we KNOW one another, and as if we've known one another all our lives. It's the Spirit of God that's in each of us. You were not personally there back in the days of the apostles. But the Lord God Who is IN you, and Whom you are IN, was there. And your spirit is joined with Him; with the Spirit of God.

As a matter of fact, since you are filled with the Holy Ghost; the Spirit of God, you KNOW ALL THINGS in your heart. You, and I, and all those filled with His Spirit, just don't UNDERSTAND all those things. But our hearts KNOW. That's why when we hear, or read, the truth, it bears witness in our hearts, we KNOW it's true, even if we can't understand why, or how, it's true, etc..


1 Corinthians 6:17 But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost [which is] in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?


1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

EPHESIANS 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,

2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,

4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)

5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;

6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:

7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.

8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.

13 Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory.

14 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with might by his Spirit in the inner man;

17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

18 May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;

19 And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God.

20 Now unto him that is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think, according to the power that worketh in us,

21 Unto him be glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end.
Amen.


HEBREWS 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,

19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which voice they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:

21 And so terrible was the sight, that Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake:)

22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,

23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

25 See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:

26 Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
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Almighty God has such a special and great purpose
for your book! He foresees what's coming. As, He is getting ready to shake this world like never before, to make one last MIGHTY CALL unto mankind to ESCAPE the Great Tribulation. And even though the Great Tribulation is not the worst thing, as God's WRATH TO COME thereafter is worse than that, and the worse of all is ETERNAL DAMNATION, still, the Great Tribulation is going to be horrible, because no one will be upon earth that has the Spirit of God in him, or her. All those that have His Spirit are, altogether, His BODY of people, to Whom He is their Head, and are all us that have received Him; Christ, our Head, and serve Him, and will all be drawn up to meet Him in the air before the Great Tribulation takes place.
The Great Tribulation is a time when everyone that believes God, and His Son, are real, and that they SHOULD HAVE received Christ, and repented of sin, and desired to obey Him, will WISH THEY HAD NOT PUT HIM OFF. Because they will then see JUST HOW very wicked this world is, that it is NOT for them, and that all that time they spent serving the world just to please themselves was NOT WORTH IT.
God will use that time to let the eyes of many be opened, and let them seek Him, and find Him, but they will end up having be beheaded; lose their lives, as far as physically, in order to make it to be with Him.
I see it like this, had they been serving their TRUE Head, Christ, they would not have had to lose their own physical head.

But they will gladly do so, knowing that they will rise up to heaven instantly.

But during the Great Tribulation, prior to those that repent of their sins before God being beheaded, God will greatly use them to tell, and teach, others about Him, those that never received Him before. There's a scripture in the Old Testament that, speaking of that time, says 'Do not go to them, let them come to you.'

In other words, the Lord, using His angels, will be helping His people HIDE OUT from wicked people trying to find and kill them. When it is time for them to die, GOD Himself will decide that, and not the devil.

But prior to the Great Tribulation, again, the Lord is ready to make one last mighty call unto mankind. It's already started, as people are getting frantic, uncertain, and very uncomfortable, with the way the world seems to be getting by with mocking, and insulting, the Lord God; the Lord Jesus. People, even those that have refused to receive Him, are so like a bunch of kids. While little kids want their way, and like to try to get by with wrong things, I've always noticed how, regardless of how they may try, they would feel betrayed, unloved, and abondoned, if no one cared enough about them to NOT LET THEM get by. There's something about knowing someone cares enough about you to scold you, and try discourage you from wrong, even if you want to do the wrong.

And what I have seen lately are people who, even though they have not received the Lord, and repented of their sins, they are very disturbed at it seeming as if the Lord God Whom they KNOW is true, even though they have not yet received His Christ; His Word; His only begotten Son, is seeming not very powerful, or why would He let the world get by with all the evil onslaughts, and all the speaking as if they have the right to SILENCE His people.

The Lord is merely allowing it temporarily, for His own reasons, His own purpose, His own glory, and to the TOTAL SURPRISE of the wicked. He is now letting; incouraging, all those that want to choose the side of Satan, to go ahead and do so, and be as bold as they can be about it (for now.) It's call 'separating the sheep from the goats; the tares from the wheat.' He is letting everyone TAKE THEIR STANCE.

But BEFORE He calls; draws, His people in whom all is His Spirit, up to meet Him in the air, things are going to happen, earthquakes like never before, whirlwinds; hurricanes, floods, etc., fires, that are going to destroy (not KILL) all those that have not received Him, and those that have that have been walking in sin against Him, devasting them more than they ever imagined could happen. And WE will be the only ones safe and sound, and shining like LIGHTS unto all that WILL run to us to hear about the Lord our God Who's Spirit is IN US, and Who's POWER we have working in and through us.

Once, during that time, all will hear that will hear, and receive Him, which the Lord will give a certain amount of time, He will then draw us, and all those that are newly born of Him, up to meet Him in the air.

And THEN the Anti-Christ; Satan, will sit and decare his ugly liar self as God.

I want to tell you something the Lord told me; gave me, sort of like a poem, about 4 years ago, when He began showing me these things. But I need to get to sleep. I will write more tomoro. Love in Christ Jesus,
Donna

Fallen angels, refer to as sons of God in verse 2&4, did leave their original habitation and took woman they choose and had children with them. These children became giants in the earth, the same became mighty men which (were) of old, men of renown.The thinking and deeds of man were evil and violence, and God repented that he created man.God stated that His spirit will not always strive with man, because of there flesh.Noah walked with God and was saved along with sons and their wives from the flood that destroyed man on the earth.The rainbow we see today represents God covernant with man, that He will not destroyed the earth again with a flood. Praise be to God.

I think Y'all need to read Rev chapter 22:18.the book is not just Revelations,it's the bible.

@ Michael (again)
How do you know Enoch is a false book? You do realize the book was found with the dead sea scrolls, right? You do realize the book was a part of the Jewish biblical canon until about 400 A.D. too, right? Your Seth and Cain bloodline theory came from the book of Jasher and that book has yet to be confirmed to even be the actual book that is talked about in the bible. If Job is not talking about angels then what is Job talking about? You seem to be good at saying what is not true, but I have not seen you say anything that is true and give an actual reference to why it is true. You keep quoting scripture about false prophets. That's a weak arguement seeing that we are only developing theories on how things got so bad and why God decided to wipe out the earth and start over through Noah. You only answered the one thing I directed toward you and conveniently overlooked what I wrote to Vic. Your arguments and references are shallow. You also seem to enjoy shooting down everyone elses theories without being able to accurately explain what something actually means and why it would mean what you are claiming. I know your angles because I have heard them a million times from people just like you. You also told someone to open their minds on this site. I would like to point out the only closed minded person in here is the one who is not considering more than just one theory. I don't believe fallen angels had sex with humans either. I do, however, believe they were possibly playing God and had the technology to manipulate DNA and artificially inseminate a human woman. Where do you think technology came from? Do you truly believe human ingenuity created all of this God-hating technology? God is the ultimate creator and Lucifer has been doing all he can to imitate God and draw man away from him and follow the path of evil. If you truly think modern day technology just popped up out of nowhere in the last 120 years, you may want to wake up and see things and try to find a better understanding that time on earth and time in the spiritual realm are two totally different things. Until you understand have have a firm hold on that concept, you are going to just talk youself into circles with those who know more than you.

@ Michael. I take it you did not read what I wrote to Vic. Your ideas come from a false book as well. Your ideas are also entertained by the Mormon religion. Are you Mormon? Thank you for choosing to pray for all of us, but pray for what? Believing the book of Enoch over your book of Jasher theory does not put one's salvation in jeopardy. I was just saying you may want to educate yourself on what you are talking about and what you believing before trying to pass it off as true fact. Next time be sure to shake the dust off of your feet BEFORE you enter a conversation rather than as you are running away.

michael, i asked you a question if you believed that the dead sea scrolls were authentic. you have not answered. there were several copies of the book of enoch among the dead sea scrolls yet you havent questioned the other dead sea scrolls' authenticity. heck, i've asked you several questions and you just dodge and go back to denying the book of enoch's authenticity. the style its written in IS different but why wouldnt that be because enoch was the only human to be taken to Heaven and be transformed? its funny that the book of enoch mentions transformation because thats what the Bible says will happen. we will all receive new bodies when He returns.
NOWHERE does it say in the Bible "sons of seth" or "daughters of cain". just because you find the idea of the sons of God being fallen angels that had sex w/ human women, ridiculous, doesn't mean it didnt happen. it means that you want to call God a liar and pick and choose what you want to believe. jude 6:7 CLEARLY says that the angels gave themselves over to fornication and strange flesh. (i asked you what you thought that passage meant and you dodged that too) God compares them to sodom and gomorrah. but you think that idea is ridiculous. but yr also the guy who thinks the angel michael is really Jesus. that is a mormon belief and not christian at all. moromnism is a cult and not remotely christian. its apparent that you are here to spread false doctrine. thankfully, no one here is falling for yr heresy. thats why yr leaving this site. i will pray for you also.

@vic

Again, you mention the book of Enoch. Again, I stress it's a false book.

@Daniel Brown

There is nothing in that passage in Job that makes the relation to "sons of God" being angels. Satan coming to a meeting between God and his angels, after his fall, is just as irrelevant as Satan coming to a meeting between God and men, or God and representatives from other planets that did not suffer the same fate as mankind. Logic dictates that you can't make that kind of assumption.

I choose to pray for all of you. I'll not make another comment on this site again. If you wish to believe that angels came down from Heaven and had sex with women, a notion in which I find to be utterly ridiculous, then that is your business. I shake the dust from off my feet.

@ Michael. I would like to strongly urge you to make sure you are 100% when it comes to your commentary on the Bible, Michael. You said "Nowhere in the Bible does it talk about angels being the sons of God" You may want to read the entire Bible before making such bold statements. It is agreed that the "Sons of God" refered to in the book of Job (1:6 and 2:1) are referring to angels. When you actually read those verses, sons of God being humans doesn't make a whole lot of sense. The verses are obviously talking about a meeting God has with those he has given tasks to and Satan showing up would be a more natural meeting than if these sons of God were actual men. Do you think those men would truly be able to witness the conversations being had between God and Satan? We have to remember that God has a whole slew of things for the angels to be doing right now and even back then. Some gave up and decided to leave the presence of god and the others are up for the challenge. They obviously have free will ( Jude 6) and could easily come down and show man all of the gifts and knowledge god had given to them. One would have to agree that the events in Enoch are at least a possibility, just as I agree that those things not happening are also a possibility. I would stop assuming what is or isn't in the Bible anymore and start learning it so you will not sound like you are just making things up.

@ Vic. I agree with you, Vic. I have heard the "Bloodline of Seth and Cain" explanation as well. That explanation actually came from the (false) book of Jasher. Now I do believe that the book of Jasher WAS real, but I am finding that it has been lost and the current book has at least 2 different versions and that is where you find things like the Seth and Cain bloodline stories (explaining the men of renown). Oddly enough, the Mormons seem to be all about this book. The Mormons are also the ones who say Michael is Jesus. Whether 1 Enoch is real or not, I do have to agree that the story about the fallen angels in 1 Enoch makes way more sense than any fundamentalist view regarding bloodlines of Seth and Cain. We can even take things a step further here and get rid of the idea of the fallen angels actually having intercourse with the daughters of men and attribute the Nephilim to technology. The reason why I believe this is because it would make sense that Lucifer want's to be like God and have his own kingdom to rule. I believe he does and has done this through technology. Manipulating genetics (E.G. DNA splicing, cloning, artificial insemination) probably existed even back then. When we do go back and read events from other civilizations, we clearly see technology existed. It is obvious those who brought technology to us wanted to see mankind get rid of the idea of God all together and worship them. So, we don't even need Enoch's writings to prove our own theory. We just have to look into history, read of these "men of renown"(Lord Pakal of the Maya, Ra of Egyptians, Zeus of Greece and so on) and see that these are not just myths, but stories of beings that actually existed and were obviously on this earth "...and even after that..." Gen 6:4. I believe if man wanted to turn their back on God, they would have just turned their back. I do not believe that man would have just decided to turn their back on God and then start fabricating new gods without any type of influence. That just owuld not make sense. What does make sense is the idea of fallen angels showing up and convincing man that they are the ones to truly be worshipped because of all of the awesome things they can do. This is why I truly believe the fallen angels are going to use this whole alien thing as part of the deception with the anti-christ and the false prophet. Only something so crazy would decieve people by the millions. The same things that happened in the days of Enoch are going to probably be very similar to what is going to happen in the future. I am just glad the Jesus has died for our sins, is going to return for us and rid the world of these abominations of the one true God; our father.

Biblical references to the book of Jasher can be found in Joshua 10:13 and 2nd Samuel 1:18-19.

It is believed this book has never really been found. The book seemed to have popped, out of nowhere, sometime in the last 800 years or so. Nobody has been able to authenticate it.

Michael, you responded about my comment "all cultures have a version of the "gods came from the sky and gave us knowledge" stories. the aztecs, the egyptians, the mayans, native americans, the dogon..."

Michael "Why should that make a difference? All of those civilizations believed in pagan forms of worship, not Judaism or Christianity. What they believed has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion at all, nor does it have anything to do with the Bible."

actually it does. the book of enoch states that the fallen angels gave forbidden knowledge and technology to humanity. and sure enough we have evidence of advanced ancient civilizations everywhere. these civilaztions all had astronomical skills; the ability to build megaliths; highly advanced mathematics; and knowledge of agriculture. the aztecs, incas, egyptians all worshipped the fallen angels first, then the offspring, giants. some of the giants had huge conehead-like skulls which the egyptians tried to emulate with their crowns or even by binding their skulls. even the aztecs and mayans bound their skulls attempting to look like their gods. yes, these are all abominations before God, practicing a pagan religion and worshipping creatures that had been created, fallen angels or giants. there is evidence of an ancient nuclear explosion in India. the area is still radioactive. how did these ancient people die from a nuclear blast thousands of years ago? well they used forbidden knowledge/technology provided them by the fallen angels. the sanskrit texts describe flying "vimanas" that had "all the power of the universe" and they used them against each other in a war. it describes elephants catching fire from the blast; the food becoming irradiated; people's hair and fingernails falling out; water as the only defense from the heat and radiation. the description fits a nuclear blast yet it was written thousands of years ago. these civilizations all were destroyed by the Flood. does it sound incredible? sure, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have happened that way. the Bible doesn't specifically state that things happened that way but the evidence is there to see, ignoring it won't make it any less valid. and it still corresponds with God's word which is the most important thing.

@ michael, yr way off base here. NOWHERE in the Bible does it say anything about the bloodlines of either seth or cain. this weak explanation is one way people try to get around some really amazing events, namely that the "sons of God/fallen angels" DID mate w/ human women and spawn monstrous giants. THIS is the explanation you claim the Bible doesn't provide. The reason the CATHOLIC church, arguably the most evil religious institution on earth next to islam, rejects this book is because it was considered too unbelievable precisely because of the fallen angel/human women cohabitation. also the book of enoch is found among the Dead Sea Scrolls. do you have a problem with the Dead Sea Scrolls authenticity? I don't. jude 6-7

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire"

what do you think "strange flesh" and fornication means? it means that the fallen angels absolutely did fornicate with human women which was an abomination before God. This is part of the reason God wiped out the earth with Noah's Flood. Remember the Bible says "Noah was perfect in all his generations..." meaning his bloodline had not been contaminated by the Nephilim.
You also said "Sin is the cause of all deformities and disease, so this very well could be the case." You are partially right. The existence of disease and evil things is because of sin BUT sin doesn't cause disease or deformities. Disease and deformities are the result of the human genome breaking down thru successive generations. Thats why in Leviticus a law is laid down that marrying a sibling is wrong. Becuase at that point in human history there there was no longer a reason to marry someone close to you relation-wise. Gross, I know but think about it, when the human race was decimated or even started, there were only a few people, they HAD to marry their relations,there was no one else.
I Corinthians 11:9-10 says "9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on [her] head because of the angels." This saying that women should cover her head, so as not to tempt the fallen angels and reserve herself for her husband.

You also said "Nowhere in the Bible does it refer to angels as the "sons of God". However, those who believe in Christ are called His sons and daughters, and also are sons and daughters of Abraham because, by believing in Him, they inherit GOD's promise to Abraham.

there are many references to the sons of God as angels, both fallen and good. This link discusses this Linkwatcher/enoch5.html

You also said the word "elect" is not used in the Bible. Wow, on this very website you can do a search and see the "elect" passages, all 24 of them.

One thing that you said is that the angel Michael is really Jesus? Where did you find that piece of heresy? Michael, you need to reread yr Bible and quit reading INTO it. Then you'll see that there isn't anywhere in the Bible about "sons of Seth or daughters of Cain". You seem to have yr own version of the Bible.

@jeff cornett

Nowhere in the Bible does it refer to angels as the "sons of God". However, those who believe in Christ are called His sons and daughters, and also are sons and daughters of Abraham because, by believing in Him, they inherit GOD's promise to Abraham.