Discuss Genesis 9 Page 5

S Spencer,

I just Googled "How many races are there?" and it gave me the Kentucky Derby, Daytona 500, Tour De France, Indy 500, and a few others. Go figure!

As far as human races, I would agree with your answer in that the bible does not give a number. I like to look at it as being one, the human race, even though I don't think that is what Kenna was looking for. It was a great question though. I'm not too sure there is an answer to that one!

Hi Kenna.

You may find it surprising, that's probably not a bible question, in other words you may not be able to track that in the Bible. However I'm sure you can Google it.

How many races are there

Patricia, may the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Revelation 4:6

The four living creatures before the throne is ALL OF CREATION.

God made a covenant with NOAH AND ALL CREATION that God would never again destroy CREATION.

Genesis 9:9-12

The covenant was with man, fowl, cattle and beast.

Revelation 4:7 And the first beast (living creature) was like a lion (BEAST), and the second beast (living creature) like a calf (CATTLE), and the third beast had the face of A MAN ( Revelation 13:18), and the fourth beast (living creature) was the face of an eagle (FOWL).

Ezekiel 1:10 As for the likeness of their faces, they four had the face of A MAN, and the face of a lion (BEAST), on the right side: and they four had a face of an ox (CATTLE) on the left side, they four had also the face of an eagle (FOWL).

ALL CREATION WILL WORSHIP GOD ( Revelation 4:8) ( Revelation 5:13) ( Revelation 15:4)

Rev robert, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Revelation 14

Revelation 15

Revelation 16

This is the work of CHRIST DEATH on the cross and the work of HIS RESURRECTION and the battle ( Revelation 16:14) we are caused to fight to come to this TRUTH IN CHRIST. Being fulfilled for the last 2000 years as the Fathers draws us to CHRIST and CHRIST gives us HIS UNDERSTANDING to overcome. ASK HIM he will cause you to understand; but it HIS time frame. We have been in the day of the Lord now for 2000 years. He is harvesting HIS FRUITS as they become first ripe (firstfruits) ( Revelation 14:14-20) ( Matthew 20:1-16)

When the sixth seal was opened ( Revelation 6:12) Christ was crucified; prophecy of ( Joel 2:31). The old testament saints and the children of the resurrection were raised with him ( Isaiah 26:19),( Revelation 20:5-6) and ( Matthew 27:52-53). The old testament saints were sealed with the Holy Spirit and the body of Christ ( 1 Timothy 6:16)( Revelation 7:3-8). There was silence in heaven for one half hour ( Revelation 8:1) between the sixth and seventh seal. This is the 45 days between Christ resurrection and pentecost ( Daniel 12:11-12) 1335 days minus 1290 days. No one could enter into the temple (into Christ) until the seven plagues were pour out on Christ (he took God's wrath for us). now we can be ONE IN CHRIST ( Revelation 15:6-8). The four living creatures before the throne ( Revelation 4:6-8) is all creation. God made a covenant with Noah that they would never be destroyed again ( Genesis 9:9-12) man, cattle, beast and fowl. ( Ezekiel 1:10) ( Revelation 4:7). ALL CREATION will worship God. The lake of fire is how Christ cleanses and purifies us.

Hebrews 12:29

Luke 12:49-50

Matthew 3:11-12

Isaiah 9:5

Isaiah 4:3-4

Malachai 3:2-3

Ezekiel 20:46-49

1 Corinthians 3:15

Genesis 6:3, refers, as Adam indicated, to the time that God had given to the people to consider & repent before He sent the deluge to wipe out mankind. It hasn't got anything to do with the allotted time given to man from time of birth to death.

However, Psalm 90:10 reveals a reduction of the average time limit for mankind to 70 yrs (three score & ten years). But the Psalm goes on to say (verse 12): "So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom." We need to take stock of our lives & the Grace of God given to us, lest our days come to an end suddenly, as it did to those who perished in the Flood.

Noah was faithful like few others . There are rewards

Good question. It seems that after the earth became filled with evil people and God decided the flood would be 120 years from that point. So, it doesn't seem to be a lifespan age limit. Noah and the 7 others were on the ark and exempted from that.

If God said that man will only live up to 120 years, why did Noah die at age 950?

Hey Sandra

There may be several opinions on this, so keep studying to be confident in your own heart, but this is what I see. God had already blessed Noah and his sons. Noah could not curse what God had blessed. So Noah cursed Hams son whether God had told him is not written. Canaan the son of Ham, after the dividing of the people and the lands after the tower of Babel, Canaan's descendants would occupy the lands God would give the house of Israel for a possession.

Genesis 9:1 And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

Genesis 9:22 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.

Genesis 12:6-7 And Abram passed through the land unto the place of Sichem, unto the plain of Moreh. And the Canaanite was then in the land.7 And the Lord appeared unto Abram, and said, Unto thy seed will I give this land: and there builded he an altar unto the Lord, who appeared unto him.

Hope this helps Ron

If you're referring to the account in Genesis 9:20-25, then, No, the sin of Ham wasn't sexual; he was passing by where his Father Noah was asleep because of imbibing too much, & he "saw" (i.e. he continued to gaze instead of walking away quickly) his Father's nakedness. In one sense, Ham, & his descendants, would not have been cursed, had Ham not reported this thing to his brothers. He must have described in detail what he saw to them, & Noah learned of this act, & so the curse upon Ham.

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Genesis 9:11 tells us that God promises to not use a flood to destroy the Earth & its inhabitants ever again as He did in Noah's days. Rather, it will be by fire ( 1 Peter 3:5-7). What we're seeing as destruction & loss of lives by fires, floods & earthquakes, are normal phenomena that have been occurring throughout history. However, it appears that their appearance now seem to come with greater frequency & force, to which one can conclude will eventually usher in the full extent of God's Anger (the Great Tribulation) that will be poured out upon the God-forsaking, Christ-rejecting World.

Reply on I John 3

Dear Xaviar & Chris, Just my thinking and thoughts about the other creation of people and Dinosaurs on Earth before

Adam and Eve. I believe they were destroyed before the Garden active. The massive comet/asteroid around 65

million years ago. Adam lived 930 years and Cain living 730 years....maybe Cain married a sister or another relative. because HERE IS THE WORD that has branded my brain. Genesis 1:28 God said (Replenish) the Earth. Meaning..

Fill up again or Restore. Then again to Noah and his sons after Flood...Replenish the Earth in Genesis 9:1. Just some of

the things I have thought about. we really won't know all these things until and IF God wants us to know in the end.

Sister in Jesus Christ ( Yeshua )

Yes. All eyes shall see Him. This will be a great event. All tv stations will broadcast it, I believe. Will be seen all around the world.

The word "Dispensation" can be used in a couple of ways in the Bible. In 1 Corinthians 9:17, Paul speaks about "a dispensation of the Gospel" that was committed to him: referring to the Gospel that was committed to him needed to be dispensed, shared or distributed.

Then, in Ephesians 1:10, "in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ": speaks of a Divine arrangement or ordering of affairs. To this meaning of 'dispensation' as also to others who refer to the various dispensations revealed in the Bible, there is clearly a plan & an order given by God, that the Body of Christ would constitute people from all lands (both Jew & Gentile). Since, this had already happened by virtue of Christ's Sacrifice & Resurrection, I think that Paul is referring to the future time, when the Church & all things 'in Christ' (all that belong to Him), will one day come together in unison to sing out to His Praise & Glory.

Discussion in relation with "Dispensation"...

You wrote (& I quote you), "The one line "This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven." is a misquote and should not have been inserted into this post. I am sorry for any confusion this may have caused."

Of course, you won't read this as you're "finished with this website". But thought to add this in case others reading this thread might also be seeking answers. If something is a 'misquote' means it has been written incorrectly or has been placed there incorrectly & to this you have admitted. Since you don't give further details as to where your error was, rather simply to prod me to show me 'my error', we are all left in the dark & wondering what message you are actually trying to convey. I hope others can work it out. Thank you again.

No Chris, I did not say "that the last paragraph of your(my) original post was incorrectly placed there." There you go again. Misstating what I say. I insist that you read my last post and correct your mistake. In the meantime I am totally finished with this website. I will immediately delete your web address and all references, and of course with no regards as to how you respond to this post. You are receiving my continued prayers. Praise God always and Thank You Jesus.

Joel 2:28-29

If you are a daughter, then you are a handmaiden.

Prophesy MEANS speak forth the Word of God. Preach and Teach the Bible.

Don't let people despise your humble beginnings. God picks those that will go ye.

You must be born again.

You must be Holy Spirit Baptized.

You need a working knowledge of the Bible.

Your armor and weapons are spiritual, invisible, but if God calls you, He will equip you.

Jesus is your Example: do it like he did in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

Memorize everything on the LINK in the red area of this website, BECOME A BELIEVER.

There are many websites that teach practical information on how to begin a street ministry. You gotta learn to Pray. Go into the Prayer Request Room and help one person. :). Then another. Be Jesus with skin, in HIS harvest field. Disciples use a buddy system too.

Mishael

So that now makes sense Jay: that the last paragraph of your original post was incorrectly placed there. Thank you for that - I can now understand clearly that at death, man's spirit returns to God (Eccl 12:7), as you believe also.

And just to clarify from my end: what I wrote, which you said was a misquote by me, was actually not intended to be your words verbatim. I specifically applied my own understanding to what you had written, so that you could correct my interpretation, since I was conflicted about Eccl 12:7 & your last paragraph. Anyway, matter closed: we're both in agreement now. Thanks for your time & the Lord bless you too.

Can women be preachers? If so, What are the Scriptures to prove it if they are allowed to preach?

In your original post you accused me of posting the following "Yet you write that on death, man's spirit doesn't return to God, whether to life or eternal death, rather it remains in 'limbo'. " Never did I post that. That is a baseless charge. I challenge you to find said statement in my post. In fact, I said all through the post, and also at the end, that at death the spirit returns to God.

Now to your last post; I hadn't noticed until today that there was a misquote. The one line "This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven." is a misquote and should not have been inserted into this post. I am sorry for any confusion this may have caused.

We are all human and as such some of us do make mistakes, the fewer the better. I hope this post helps, if not don't call me, I will be unavailable. I do, however, forgive you for your baseless charge in your first response to me.

We all should learn a valuable lessen from this experience It is what I continuously say "Put your faith in God's Word, not in man."

God Bless and have a good day.

Proverbs 16:18 - Pride goeth before destruction......... Praise God. Thank You Jesus.

I will actually respond further Jay, as I wasn't referring to your Eccl 12:7 reference. I was referring to: "Comparably, the life-force returns to where it came from-God. ( Job 34:14, 15; Psalms 36:9). This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven. Rather, it means that for someone who dies, the time of future life rests with God."

So what are you referring to when you write: "the life-force (man's spirit, which you explained earlier), doesn't travel to heaven - it means the time of future life rests with God"? I'm confused as to what you are trying to say here. Where does man's spirit go upon his death, if at all? I can't see any misrepresentation of your comments on my part - just reading as given & requiring further clarification, if you so desire. Thank you.

When we that are saved die our souls return to Jesus.

Chris, I would suggest that you read my post a little more carefully. My quote "Speaking about man's death, Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it." end quote, and yet you would totally misrepresent my post.

I feel it is a waste of my time in responding further, as you have knowingly misquoted me since my quote was clear and concise. I praise God and always Thank Jesus for trials which will strengthen us. You will be in my prayers.

That was interesting to read Jay. I do agree with your understanding of the soul & spirit of man. I could further state that the soul finds its fuller meaning in the personality & emotions of the individual, hence the soul, being an immaterial part, not only reveals the life of a person, but also his/her character.

'Ruach' is clearly different to 'psykhe' & as you stated also comes from God giving life (breath) to the body which clothes the soul. As well, I understand man's spirit from God also functions as the means that God, by His Spirit, can communicate with man. Romans 8:16 speaks of this interaction. The spirit in us enables us to look beyond the immediate & temporal, to the One Who brought it all together, though many today stifle it preferring to understand their world & themselves, only through the soul (by reasoning & logic).

Yet you write that on death, man's spirit doesn't return to God, whether to life or eternal death, rather it remains in 'limbo'. Am I understanding you correctly? Could you provide some Bible references or expand this thought further? Why I ask this, is that Eccl 12:7 which you quoted, speaks of this returning, or else, that man's spirit has to have a destiny, whether in a body or in a location. I understand the Ecclesiastes reference suggesting that, just as God gives a new born baby a spirit, so at death of that body, the spirit is then released & returned back to God - like a loan from God to enjoy Him & His creation. We have the accounts of the destinies of the rich man & Lazarus ( Luke 16:19-31), the thief on the Cross ( Luke 23:39-43) & Stephen's cry at his execution ( Acts 7:55-60). All seem to suggest that our spirits remain alive, active & accountable whether in life in the body or cessation of earthly existence.

When writing about the soul, the Bible writers used the Hebrew word nephesh or the Greek word psykhe. These two words occur well over 800 times in the Scriptures, and the New World Translation renders them "soul," either in the main text or in footnotes. When you examine the way "soul" or "souls" is used in the Bible, it becomes evident that this word basically refers to people and the life that a person has.

"In Noah's day . . . a few people, that is, eight souls, were carried safely through the water." ( 1 Peter 3:20) Here the word "souls" clearly stands for people-Noah, his wife, his three sons, and their wives.

You will find another examples of this sense of "soul" in the text found at Matthew 10:39'

Some people think that "spirit" is just another word for "soul." However, that is not the case. The Bible makes clear that "spirit" and "soul" refer to two different things.

Bible writers used the Hebrew word ruach or the Greek word pneuma when writing about the "spirit." The Scriptures themselves indicate the meaning of those words.

For instance, Psalm 104:29 states: "If you [God] take away their spirit [ruach], they die and return to the dust."

Speaking about man's death, Ecclesiastes 12:7 states: "The dust [of his body] returns to the earth, just as it was, and the spirit returns to the true God who gave it." When the spirit, or life-force, leaves the body, the body dies and returns to where it came from-the earth. Comparably, the life-force returns to where it came from-God. ( Job 34:14, 15; Psalm 36:9)

This does not mean that the life-force actually travels to heaven. Rather, it means that for someone who dies, the time of future life rests with God. The time frame is in God's hands, so to speak. Only by God's power can the spirit, or life-force, be given back so that a person may live again.

Praise God. Thank You Jesus.

They say we living in the last days my question is will we see the lord when its time for his return on earth

Does your soul leave your body at death? Also are the bodies that are left behind the wicked?