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Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7:21-27, Matthew 7:1-21, Hebrews 10:22-31,35,36,37,38,39

Philippians 2:1-16,

When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgement, and by the spirit of burning.

And the Lord will create upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud and smoke by day, and the shining of a flaming fire by night: for upon all the glory shall ne a defence.

Isaiah 4:4-5

Then Peter said unto them, Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 2:38

Whom God hath set forth to ne a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forebearance of God;

Romans 3:25

Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

Romans 3:24

To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he may be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Romans 3:26

Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

Hebrews 10:8

This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

Having therefore brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

Hebrews 10:16-20

To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by remission of their sins,

Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us,

Luke 1:77-78

But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off...

2 Peter 1:9

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For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

John 3:20

Whose fan is in his hand, and he will thoroughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.

Matthew 3:12

And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

Acts 2:3

And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

Acts 2:4

For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned without the camp.

Hebrews 13:11

Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.

Hebrews 13:12

And straightway coming up oit of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him:

Mark 1:10

Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Hebrews 10:22

And he said unto them, Behold, when ye are entered into the city, there shall a man meet you, bearing a pitcher of water; follow him into the house where he entereth in.

Luke 22:10

Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

1 Peter 3:20

And John also was baptizing in Aenon near Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

John 3:23

And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me. For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

Acts 1:4-5

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I must publicly apologize. I replied to a sisters post on Hebrews 10:25. Trying to encourage her to attend a church building fellowship. Apparently, I added, "in the house of the Lord" to the scripture! I corrected her and the Holy Spirit told me to check the scripture as I wrote it from "memory". I somehow added "in the house of the Lord" to the scripture. I am so sorry. I am mortified at myself. I tried to apologize to her but could not remember where the post was and after searching, was unable to locate it. I'm trying to correct my mistake and ask forgiveness.

The scripture says ; Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together,*, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as you see the day approaching.

(*) This is where I added "in the house of the Lord"

Dgjot,

Something that sort of stood out to me was where you said that "You just had to take God/Jesus at their word." What I am understanding is that you were expecting some sort of grand experience after calling upon the Lord to save you, and when that didn't happen, you decided to just trust that the Lord would do what He said He would. That's about all we can do is take Him at His word and trust in His promises.

I received Christ almost 25 years ago. There was nothing spectacular as far as experience goes. But like you say, I had to take the Lord at His word. Romans 10:13 says that all who call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved, not might be, but will be.

But with that, let me share this with you. It doesn't say that this salvation is immediate. But the promise is still there. Some get saved immediately, and for others it could take a while. You see, the Lord knows our heart. He knows if and when we are ready to completely surrender our life to Him. He prepares our heart until we are ready to turn from our ways and make Him the Lord of our life.

As far as the incident you have been agonizing over for 48 years, the only advice I can offer you is to let it go. 1 John 1:9 says, If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If you've asked the Lord for forgiveness, you need to trust that He has forgiven you. He is a faithful and just Lord.

And you are very welcome for what I shared with you on Hebrews 10:26. God Bless!!!

Thank You Jesse, for explaining Hebrews 10:26-31.

There are so many things I still don't understand.

Dgjot,

I would like to share a couple of things with you. You mention getting saved so I have to assume that you have surrendered your life to Christ and been born of His Spirit. If so, you belong to Him. Just as Paul professed himself to be a slave to Jesus Christ, we also are a slaves to Christ if indeed we belong to Him.

The section you mention in Hebrews Chapter 10 is not talking about a saved person losing their salvation. Those who don't believe in the eternal security of the believer will use Hebrews 10:26 to show that a person can lose their salvation. That's not what it's talking about. It's talking about those Jews who were following along with the teachings, "receiving the knowledge of the truth," but instead of surrendering their lives to Christ, they were turning away and going back into Judaism.

Those Jews had a very tough decision to make, either denounce Judaism and surrender to Christ, or turn back because it would be much easier for them to do so. If they received Christ as their Savior, their family would disown them, they would lose their jobs, and they would be kicked out of their own temple. That was their dilemma.

So Hebrews 10:26 is speaking of those Jews who were considering turning back. So the writer is basically telling them that Jesus Christ is the final sacrifice for your sin. If you want to turn away from this gospel message and go back into your system of Judaism, your system of sacrificing for sin, there remains no other sacrifice.

As far as where you stand, only you know where you stand with Christ. Only you know if you've fully surrendered your life to Him. If you have, your salvation is firm and complete in Christ Jesus. He is the final sacrifice for your sin. He purchased you with His precious blood. It is by His power alone that you are being kept until the day He comes to redeem His purchased possession (You and I). My friend, you have to trust in His promise ( Romans 10:13, John 6:39, 1 Peter 3:5).

This is some scary stuff.

Y'know, the more I read stuff like this- the more I think I don't stand a chance of entering heaven

Yes I know, that Jesus died for all of us. Yes I know, that the redeemed have been washed in His blood.

Then I read verses like Hebrews 10:26-31:

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

I really don't know where I stand. Back in the days when I first got saved, I was led to believe that just praying "the sinners prayer" once got one into heaven. I thought I was safe. While I may have received the Truth, I didn't understand it. While I didn't do anything really bad like murder or sleep around, I stumbled around in my life trying to figure things out. I may have goofed in a few places. I did murmur a lot because I never received any help. I have no one to blame but myself.

If one ignores God, God will leave them alone. The Holy Spirit of God sees all, hears all and knows our darkest thoughts and the desires of your heart. We must desire God's Will in our lives. If we don't, everything we try to do on our own will turn to garbage.

Hello Free. I'm sorry that I missed your comment to me, but will address it now. My apologies.

In 1 Corinthians chapter 11, the apostle is speaking about this relationship within the New Covenant. Before Jesus came to Earth as a babe, the Bible tells us that He was the Word of God ( John 1:1-14). In other words, God manifested Himself to His people, Israel, through the giving of His Word & by His Spirit through His prophets. But now in these last days (i.e. New Covenant days - post Cross), He has spoken to us by His Son, that Word Who was made Man ( Hebrews 1:1,2).

So, now when we see Jesus, He is seen (in the NT), as God made flesh, died, buried, resurrected, & ascended to sit at the Father's right Hand ( Luke 22:69; Colossians 3:1; Hebrews 10:12). Jesus holds within Himself the full divinity of God His Father, all His Glory, & receives all the worship ( Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 5:12), but He now remains distinct in 'bodily' form because of His incarnation. And this is a picture of how we will be when translated to live in Heaven ( 1 John 3:2).

Therefore, God as Jesus' Father will always be at the Head, then Jesus as His only begotten Son next in position, then man as God's first creation in God's Image, & then woman made out of man, both of them bearing God's Image.

I don't understand your statement: "Also how do you say we are not under the old law but then makes new laws for women?" The only way I can understand your statement is to say that under the old Law, there was neither need nor provision for women preaching in the Church; there was no Church. This "ordinance" that Paul delivered ( 1 Corinthians 11:2) is entirely based on the risen Christ & His Church - nothing at all to do with any 'old' Law or whether the women of old ministered as prophets, judges, warriors, etc. Under the New Covenant, there is also a new order in His Body, as for those who now worship God in spirit & in Truth. Blessings.

I think the scripture reference used is Hebrews 12:1

In context Hebrews 10:35-39, Hebrews 11:1-40, continues = Hebrews 12:1-11

Acts 16:33, in context Acts 16:27-34

Acts 16:15 in context Acts 16:14-15

Acts 18:8

1 Corinthians 3:3

John 13:35

Hebrews 10:25

James 1:27

Please note the scriptures I've listed & pray about what I'm about to say. I once witnessed 2 children who asked to be baptized by the Lead Pastor, they were skipped over, another Pastor replaced the old one & once again those 2 children a boy & a girl asked to be baptized. That Pastor also asked them questions on the Bible, doctrine, taught them a special class, privately then decided not to Baptize them. In a short time other youths were baptized & they were skipped over again. I watched as those two children served in the church, many days & even during the celebration of the others getting baptized. Whom was more like Christ? Later those 2 children were baptized without classes & with people who barely knew them. Please pray for wisdom.

Matthew 19:14

If you judge to strictly remember :

Matthew 7:2 , Matthew 7:1-5

Why is beautiful sister, English Sacha leaving?

Brother Ronald.

Part 2. Genesis 2:25.

Lets look at Genesis 2:17. But of the tree of the (knowledge of good and evil,) thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

Let's take Genesis 3:7-11. ( And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked;) and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

Verse 9: And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, ( Where art thou?)

Here in verse 9. I don't think God is speaking of their location, I think He is speaking of their condition.

"No one can hide from God."

And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and ( I was afraid, because I was naked;) and I hid myself.

" It's Interesting Adam is afraid because he was naked, rather than his disobedience."

Verse 11. And he said, ( Who told thee that thou wast naked? ) Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

Genesis 3:22. And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

It seems the text goes a little further than just their disobedience, There's a lot of emphasis on being Naked and knowing it. Sinful flesh exposed Maybe? The consequence of knowing is where the threat lies! Why? Perhaps so they want attempt to cover themselves when Christ was ordained to come into the world before the world began. The blood of Christ was to be their covering. That's why I hold the view God provided them covering from a blood shed sacrifice pointing to Christ.

Gen. 3:21. Unto Adam also and to his wife did the "LORD God" make coats of skins, and clothed them.

Have you noticed verse 21 "LORD" God is used? The covenant name, This where the sacrifices started and the sacrifices pointing to Christ. It was taught to Cain and Abel. Only after the resurrection GOD spirit would Dwell "IN" man.

Hebrews 10:14-20.

God bless.

Hi Brother Ronald.

Part 1.

As I promised once I settle back at home I would reach out and continue our dialog on the 1st Adam and 2nd Adam.

RECAP.

As I said I don't believe God dwelled "IN" Adam. Below is some of the previous references below.

The spirit now dwells in us only by the blood of Christ cleansing of the temple.

( 1 Corinthians 3:16. )

( Hebrews 10:14-22. )

Therefore we have boldness to enter into Gods presence and so would have Adam "if" Gods spirit dwelled in him. He would have never been moved out of the Garden because of ( 1 John 3:9. )

Here is the difference between the 2 Adams- ( 1 Corinthians 15:45-50. )

Verse 45- And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a

( quickening spirit.) "Life giving spirit." Whether Adam sinned or not he could never give us eternal life.

Verse 46- Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. We also inherit that which is natural not because Adam sinned, " Because he was made a living soul. So is our 1st birth.

Here is a quote from part 1 of your reply:

"When God formed the first Adam and made Eve out of his rib, they were in the garden naked and they were not ashamed ( Genesis 2:21-25). Their conscience was clean and white, not touched with sin, a dwelling place where God could communicate directly to Adam. After sin we see the voice of God walking, we know who that was.

If we look at all the scripture about our conscience it is where evil or good dwells. We are convicted by our conscience, our conscience records every thought, every intent, every imagination whether good or evil, it is the part of us that is recorded in the books that will be opened. This is why the law fell short it could cleanse the flesh but was uncapable of cleansing the conscience. ( Hebrews 9:8-14) ( Hebrews 10:1-12)." End quote.

In part 2 I will address the view I hold on Adam and Eve being naked.

See Part 2.

Thank you.

Thank You Jesus for all the testimonies of Salvation, Deliverance, and Healing to come.

By Your grace, for Your glory.Alleluia.

Strengthen us Lord.

Hebrews 10:19 kjv: Having therefore, brethren,boldness to enter

into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,

Part one,

S Spencer, brother thank you for your caring and your support to the brothers and sisters on this site. I understand this subject is off-limits to many and I thank you for your answer. I understand as Christian's we have different understandings of scriptures. I understand discernment, it is like Paul said in ( 1 Corinthians 3:2) the Holy Spirit does the same.

I went to church in my younger years and I had Christian parents, but I was not truly saved until my forties going on thirty years ago, it took over two years through demonic battles and things I did not believe were even real. I have full faith in my salvation in Jesus Christ and the baptizing of the Holy Spirit, if not I would not be here today.

I understand wanting to sit this one out some people's emotions override the love in Christ and many hold this undebatable, if we lived long ago, we would be in fear of death and even today your treated as unwanted, and cast out of many congregations, and I do cherish you considering me a brother.

On to the two Adams, now this is what I feel has been revealed through the Holy Spirit and my understanding of Scripture and I understand if we do not agree, but I will as best I can, tell you. When God formed the first Adam and made Eve out of his rib, they were in the garden naked and they were not ashamed ( Genesis 2:21-25). Their conscience was clean and white, not touched with sin, a dwelling place where God could communicate directly to Adam. After sin we see the voice of God walking, we know who that was.

If we look at all the scripture about our conscience it is where evil or good dwells. We are convicted by our conscience, our conscience records every thought, every intent, every imagination whether good or evil, it is the part of us that is recorded in the books that will be opened. This is why the law fell short it could cleanse the flesh but was uncapable of cleansing the conscience. ( Hebrews 9:8-14) ( Hebrews 10:1-12).

Continued

Brother Ronald.

Part 2.

As I mentioned I don't believe Adam would have been driven out of the Garden to keep him from eating of the tree of life because that life would have abided in him. And there would have been no need of a sacrifice or penalty of sin.

Hebrews 10:14-22. For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

HAVING THEREFORE, BRETHERN, BOLDNESS TO ENTER INTO THE HOLIEST BY THE BLOOD OF JESUS,

By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

And having an high priest over the house of God;

LET US DRAW NEAR WITH A TRUE HEARTH IN ASSURENCE OF FAITH, HAVING OUR HEARTS SPRINKLED FROM AN EVIL CONSCIENCE, and our bodies washed with pure water.

The spirit now dwells in us only by the blood of Christ cleansing of the temple. " 1 Corinthians 3:16. Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?"

Therefore we have boldness to enter into Gods presence and so would have Adam "if" Gods spirit dwelled in him. He would have never been moved out of the Garden because of 1 John 3:9.

Here is the difference between the 2 Adams- 1 Corinthians 15:45-50.

Verse 45- And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a

( quickening spirit.) "Life giving spirit." Whether Adam sinned or not he could never give life.

Verse 46- Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. We also inherit that which is natural not because Adam sinned, " Because he was a living soul. So is our 1st birth.

GBU.

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Hdhdhd ASK: How do you ask god for forgiveness

Reply: Matthew 6:9 saids,

... therefore pray ye: Our Father which art (are) in heaven, Hallowed (Holy) be thy (your) name.

( Psalm 83:18)

Matthew 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.

(sins is like being in debt- Romans. 6:23, )

Jesus explained further About forgiveness:

Please read Matthew 6:14-15

Does this mean we can go on a shopping spree of immorality or do what God

hates because our debts are paid off ( Hebrews 10:26,27). no, we work to stay out of debt.

How?

1.Prayer ( Matthew 6:9,13; Matthew. 26:38,41)

3. Study ( Matthew 4:1-13 "written"; 2 Timothy 3:16,17; Romans 15:4)

4. Avoid the cause and those who practice them. if can't...

#1 will help. ( 2 peter 2:9; 1Corinthians. 15:33; 1corinthians 6:9-11)

Hope this is helpful

Hebrews 10:25

Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

I pray in Jesus mighty name that you will find a church that is right, Amen.

Romans 5:12 Wherefore (as a result), as by one man sin entered into the world ( Genesis 3), and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God

all man (woman, children) on this earth are sinners . Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) is not looking for perfection.

he's looking for *grief (repentance) and repentance from within ( Ps. 51:4). that inner thought and mind.

that inner regret and groaning because of bad . but what if a person keep sinning willingly? Hebrews 10:26; 1 Corinthians 6:9,10

however, what can be done to run in a way that doesn't cause

a big stumble or fall with self or others?

Psalm 1:1-3; 2 Timothy 3:16,17 study and correct

Luke 22:40 prayer

1Corinthians 15:33 Abandon anything that is influencing bad behavior.( Proverbs 13:20)

*Example of major sin:

2Samuel 12:1-18; Ps. 51:4

I hope this helps. there is more... but don't want to

overwhelm. ( Romans 7:14-25)

It is finished. Part 1.

Is our atonement forever or once Christ freed us it's up to us to Atone for ourselves?

When Christ offered himself, He did it all!

The sacrifice had to be without blemishe.

Jesus didn't need cleansing from sin.

Jesus was sinless throughout his life.

PERFECT AND COMPLETE.

What's important to Know is the high priest in the levitical priesthood had to offer up sacrifices for himself and then the children of Israel. because it was IMPERFECT. But not Christ.

Hebrews 7:27. Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

Jesus was an offering to the Lord for our sins. ONCE! By it we have atonement. He was raised from the dead showing the prophesied sacrifice was accepted.

HOW ARE WE KEPT.

As the offering of Christ was complete for remission of sins compared to the Levitical offerings because they had to offered often. Can we remain perfect by law keeping and continuous offerings? NO!

Hebrews 10:11-12. And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, WHICH CAN NEVER TAKE AWAY SINS:

But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

1 John 2:1-2. My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

And he is the propitiation for our sins: Atonement that is (concretely)

Colossians 3:3. For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.

Jude 1:24-25. Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,

To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

John 10:28. And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

You might enjoy a visit to GEVTE.

This guy is a mathematician that is able to recall cosmic events and match them to prophesy. It makes you want to write some of this down and check it out.

Write me back and tell me what you think? He makes predictions and I'm not sure anyone should do that.

I'm still looking at what Charles Capps teaches of how Jesus became the son of Man. He took back the Authority Adam lost to Satan.

Abraham's obedience and trust, when he almost sacrificed his son; God instead provided a ram.

Legally, this made it possible for Jesus to be born into the earth; the Son of man. FULLY HUMAN and fully the Son of God.

Hebrews 10:5

Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, BUT A BODY hast thou prepared me:

Luke 2

29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word:

30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation,

31 Which Thou Hast Prepared before the face of ALL PEOPLE

32 A light to light to the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel.

This passage in Luke always stumped me. It's a prophesy spoken at Jesus's circumcision.

Jesus had to be human to give His Life for all humankind on the Cross. Satan didn't know or he'd have tried to stop it. Satan is a created being. He is not human. He has to borrow a body to manifest. He'll enter the Antichrists body. [antichrist; 2nd beast; false prophet]

Knowing the legalities of this; coupled with the DOMINION God gave to First Adam: Jesus holds ALL AUTHORITY. He gives BELIEVERS IN HIM,

Authority to defeat Satan, IN JESUS NAME.

We have Dominion PLUS Authority to cast Satan and his demons, out of ours and others lives. When Jesus said "LEAVE", they left. We can do that IN JESUS NAME.

Our complacency and unbelief makes us victims of outlaw, illegal spirits. They borrow any kind of body or they are INVISIBLE. Ephesians 6.

Jesus wants us to live as kings and priests; not bleating little lambs.

Hello, thanks for sharing your opinion. You used the word 'we' as though you have grouped yourselves with others, assuming others have the same opinion. I could use 'we' also.

I'd like to question one of your assumptions: "Children of God don't want to sin"

Is that true?

Do you believe is Paul a child of God? In my view, Paul became one of the strongest Christian evangelists in world history. He was absolutely dedicated to preaching the message of Jesus Christ, and wrote more books than anyone else in the Bible. He also wrote the following which he admitted to struggling with sin:

Rom 7:14-19

Do you have any evidence for where the belief that Christians don't want to sin or aren't tempted by sin comes from? Currently, without further Biblical support I tend to believe Paul and what he wrote. God bless.

I know dozens of Christians living in sin right now and they are enjoying it immensely. They are taught they don't have to try to avoid it- that human effort is 'bad', so they follow the world and its desires, assuming they're following Christ. I know some assume there's nothing to worry about since they assume they're 'saved', but I am worried for their souls based on what the Bible says. John 14:15-17, ROMANS 11:6, Hebrews 10:26, James 2:19, 1 Cor 9:24-27. Is it 'wrong' to take the Bible verses literally and be concerned for one's salvation? Is it 'wrong' to believe in the Bible?

Hello Rick, I'd like to politely challenge one of your statements. Since you said we won't be punished for any sins does that mean I can enjoy committing sins tonight without any punishment? Strip club, drugs, fornication, lying, stealing, cheating, all isn't counted and all are ok?

And I can tell all my Christian friends to go with me and do the same? Does Jesus cover intentional sin, and even blasphemy? And if all believers are already forgiven, does that mean we no longer need to confess and ask for forgiveness of sins and that we shouldn't even try to avoid sin? Scriptural support? And how else should I interpret verses like Hebrews 10:26?

God bless...

Hello Hui Ning Wu,

I would like to offer another perspective to your comment: "And once you are saved, you cannot lose your salvation no matter what you do!"

I ask, is this true? If true, I would love to commit sins tonight just for fun, because no consequence. Would love to do drugs, have an affair, go to certain clubs to party, maybe even get in a fight, because if we're saved no matter what it wouldn't matter and God would still reward me?

So, is this true that it's from God and not from satan? Before I do that I would first need to find it in clearly scripture and no other scripture would contradict it. So, if I look through the Bible for evidence, I find the following:

1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"

This suggests grace won't be given until Jesus comes- maybe even after we're judged. But people are telling me I'm saved and have grace now, so which is true? Does anywhere else in the Bible say that?

1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."

Ok, I guess it does. So, we're not 'saved' yet, huh?

Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"

James 2:14-26 "...faith, if it hath not works, is dead..."

James 2:19 "Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble."

So, believing alone isn't enough? So, maybe faith and actions matter?

Romans 11

John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Matthew 12:31-32

Romans 14:12

1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'

But many people are telling me the race is already won and that I can party. So, who is right: God's Word or man's word?

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

1 Corinthians 9:26-27 - this suggests 'trying' is good.

Evidence showing I should NOT commit sin. God bless...

Dennis Braswell Hebrews 10:26 In simple terms. When we got born again and received holy spirit our intent is not to Go against Gods word intentionally anymore. Another grieve not the holy spirit. this verse is saying If you willfully go against the payment made for you I.E. Gods only begotten son perfect sacrifice there is nothing left that can be done for your sin.

Basically slapping God in the face so to speak not good. In His Service

Hebrews 10:26 need perspective

What a great list of very relevant Scripture showing the full Deity of our Lord Jesus. I was greatly enriched indeed GRACE_ambassador. I was looking for possibly a reference ( John 20:28) in your list, but may have missed it. We can note how Jesus never rebuked Thomas for exclaiming, "My Lord and my God". Rather, Thomas' faithlessness was addressed & now he believed & rejoiced in seeing his Master & his God. And how blessed are those who haven't been witnesses of those crucifixion wounds on the Lord, & still have faith to believe & call upon Him.

As I went out for my evening walk today, my mind & spirit was deeply impressed with a situation where a believer denies the deity of Christ & the impact that has on his salvation. And then coming to your three page response, I saw your question I had entertained a hour earlier, i.e. "If we Deny HIS Deity, how can HE FORGIVE us our sins?" I'm still working through that because of the gravity of its implications. Doesn't our salvation hinge on the fact that God laid down His Life for us? That the salvation He brought to us was "once for all" ( Hebrews 10:4-12)? Thank you for those great Scriptures giving irrefutable evidence of the Deity of Christ.

This weekend was National Prayers, dedicated to rescuing the Americans (and other countries) out of Afghanistan without loss of life or tragedies.

Please set aside some time to intercede on their behalf. The have to leave all of their belongings behind.

I know how that feels. I had a home fire when no one was there and it was 99% total loss; someone saved my pets :)

Loss is the most powerful Teacher, of what is truly important. It frees you to carve out a new future. I found out how much people really loved me and gave of themselves to help me restart a home. My deceased grandmother who I dearly loved; her China cabinet survived. How gracious God is towards us, to allow us the blessing of experiencing that!

Pray, that will happen. May they come back home and be met with self-sacrificing love and actions to help someone restart their life. They gave me their best when I had nothing to give back except love. My faith grew.

Suddenly we are receiving a preview of just how difficult the Tribulation will be. It's going to be real hard, day after day, life and death decisions.

We don't have jobs now. Landlords want rent and there is none. In the Tribulation, people left behind will have to survive with nothing.

We need to receive Jesus as our Lord NOW, and trust in what He says throughout the Bible. God is Love. Jesus is the God Man that came here to rescue us out of the horrors of the End.

Salvation is a gift from God. A gift has to be received. Sorta like Christmas. You give because you love. Receive Gods gift and Trust Him To Do what He said He would do, IN THE BIBLE.

So many of us have trust issues for numberless reasons. This is ONE TIME when you have full assurance that you can trust in God. Receive His Gift, His only son Jesus, and prepare to live in joy forever. He is Faithful that Promised.

Hebrews 10:23

It's gonna be okay. Choose life now. Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life (one of His Names) & Faithful and True

Alison,

Hebrews 10:26 is not referring to saved believers. The writer of Hebrews is speaking to unsaved Hebrew people. He says, for if we sin willfully, that is, we go back to serving the principle of sin, after that we have received the knowledge of the truth,

We know from Hebrews Chapter 6 that those who were enlightened, that are no longer coming for fellowship, just because they were enlightened doesn't mean they're saved.

The Lord can enlighten someone as to the knowledge of the truth, they know the truth, they have seen the truth, they understand the truth, but have never surrendered their life to Christ.

That's what was taking place here. They were following along and being enlightened, but wouldn't surrender their lives to Christ because they would be severely persecuted for turning away from Judaism and receiving Christ as their Messiah. For them, it was much easier to go back to Judaism.

It says, "If we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins,

The writer is speaking to Jewish/Hebrew people who were being enlightened to the truth, but instead of turning away from Judaism and surrendering their life to Christ, they were considering going back into Judaism.



What this verse is saying is that if they go back into old Judaism, they're not going to find any sacrifice there that's going to take care of their sin problem if you leave Christ.

The consequences of a true believer who continues in sin, if they are truly saved, the Lord will deal with them. He disciplines those who truly belong to Him. And sometimes His discipline can be pretty harsh!

Another thing I believe, and I think scripture backs it up, is that someone who is truly born of the Spirit of God, that person will no longer live a lifestyle of sin because the Spirit in them will convict them of their sin and keep them from habitually practicing sin.

KHALIL,

You have perfectly described a person who has never been saved. The only thought I have concerning your last statement is that there is no such thing as Christians who want to be saved. But you are right on concerning those who continue to live a lifestyle of sin. Thank you for sharing that!