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Read Ephesians 4:32. When we truly are saved, we become a new creation in Christ. The old is passed away. We are forgiven. As Christians we are to be doers of the word. Jesus said in John 14:15, if you love me, keep my commandments.
1John 2:4
1John 4:20-21
The Lord is my Shepherd.
I am lifting you all up in prayer today. Jesus Christ is coming soon. We are living in the last of the last days, and hell is a real place of torment. Eternal. I don't want to go there and I don't want you to go there.
Matthew 10:28
Matthew 13:50
2Thessalonians 1:9
Psalms 145:20
Hebrews 10:26-31
So let Jesus work in your heart and life. No one can put Him there. You must see your need for Him and repent (stop sinning,stop hating,forgive,stop rejecting Christ) REPENT of YOUR own evil deeds, ask Jesus Christ for forgiveness.
Matthew 6:14-15
He paid for our sin with His life's blood when He was crucified on the cross.His gift of forgiveness is free. Please accept it. Repent and be baptized in water and the Holy Spirit.
HE IS COMING BACK SOON. If YOU are not ready, the Bible says you will be eternally lost. I would not wish Hell on my worst enemy. No, on the contrary. I want to spend eternity loving and worshiping Jesus Christ together with them.
( Matthew 5:44)
May the Lord richly bless you today in Christ Jesus!
Helpful tip; touch the verse addresses in red and they will open up. You won't have to look them up separately.
Now look at the chronological order here in 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8."For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
"AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED BE REVEALED", whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
This is the Holyspirit being removed and "then" the Antichrist shall be revealed!
The Holyspirit dwells in the body of believers unlike the way He worked and moved under the old covenant.
Jeremiah 31:31-34 and
Hebrews 10:16.
Mathew 28:18-20 says something interesting that we can tie into 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8.
"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING THEM in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I AM WITH YOU ALWAY, EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD. Amen.
a) We're put into the body of believers "IDENTIFIED" With Christ.
Satan has ministers amongst us but Satan has no power over the Church!
Genesis 3:15. ( We are baptized into him that will bruise Satan's head.)
1 John 4:4. ( We have already overcome what's coming upon the world!)
Matthew 16:18. ( Gates in scripture is always used as defense. So who's on the offence and overcomes? The Church!! )
b) "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen"
WE ARE BAPTIZED IN CHRIST AND HE WILL NEVER LEAVE US.
Unlike Judaism the Church is not looking for their Messiah. .
We have him with and in us!!
The deception performed by the Antichrist is one coming as their Messiah, and he will deceive many!!
That can't happen while the Church is in the world.
1 John 2:20-28.
Thanks Brother!
We're learning a lot from your teachings.
God bless you.
Back to our conversation. You are right that the verb "hupomeno/omen, sing/plural" sometimes is written in the Bible having the meaning of "to endure or suffer or remain under tough conditions with patience, a patient endurance. Verses where that verb has that specific meaning are e.g. in Timothy 2:10, Timothy 2:12, but we can find the noun "hupomone" in verses like e.g. Luke 8:15, Rom 2:7, 5:3, 1 Thess 1:3, Hebr 10:36 etc where it has the meaning of patience. (If you wish I can give you all the verses in NT that contain that word). I think those two meanings are so closely related to one another so that sometimes it is not very obvious which meaning they actual have. One needs patience to endure/ to stay under tough conditions/tribulations. Otherwise what is the point of being patient if they enjoy themselves, nobody would say that they patiently have a nice time, would they? But in Hebrews 10:36 it has the meaning of patience. This is how I find it written in modern Greek Bibles.
About your question "What would be the consequences for a Jewish person for following Jesus?". I think they would be separated from the other Hebrews, not allowed to enter the synagoge, and suffer all kind of persecutions, even imprisonment and execution. We can read about that in Acts (Stephen) just before Paul was converted to Christianity. And we can read what Paul suffered by his own nation after he received Jesus as his Savior.
Thanks for your comment on Daniel's 70 weeks. GBU
Part 3
To make an end of sins.
To make an end; as put an end to/make an end to, affix a seal, to seal up, a document is rolled up and sealed with wet clay. The signet ring of the owner bears the image of his seal and is pressed into the clay. This is what was done by the Holy Spirit, 2 Cor. 1:22 Eph. 1:13 2 Tim. 2:19.
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. Sin reaches for things, such as safety, knowledge, peace, happiness, and pleasure. Nevertheless, behind the act of good, sin ultimately creates a confrontation between obedience and rebellion. If not in faith, it is sin.
Psalm 32:1 Matthew 1:21 Matthew 22:11-13 John 1:29 John 3:5 Acts 5:31 Romans 3:25 Romans 8:3 Hebrews 9:26 Hebrews 10:8-12 1 Corinthians 15:3 1 John 3:5-6 Revelation 16:15
The covering of our sins was accomplished on the cross at Calvary. When he said IT IS FINISHED, he provided us with the garments (wedding garments) to cover our sins. Sin has not completely stopped yet but it is covered by the blood of Jesus and sealed by the Holy Spirit.
This passage points toward the Messiah who died because of our sins. In Jesus's death, punishment for our sins is paid for. Jesus's death we are dead to sin. Walking in the Spirit meant that we are trusting in Christ by faith to be made right before God, and not trusting in the law.
Whenever Paul speaks about walking after the flesh, it is in the context of trying to be made right before God by the law, which is equivalent to self-righteousness. I believe the prophecy is fulfilled in Jesus Christ and if we are in Jesus Christ, it is fulfilled for us. Praise God that Jesus Christ made an end of sins! As Jesus said from the cross, "It is finished!"
See Part 4
I agree. From what I've learned, it is a compound Greek word, HUPO meaning under, and MENO meaning to dwell, to remain or to abide. MENO is found in many places throughout the NT and denotes a permanency of something or someone dwelling or abiding. In the case of the believer who has been born of God's Spirit, His Spirit permanently abides in the life of the believer.
I've been doing some research on the word HUPOMENO. The verse in question is Hebrews 10:36. The KJV says "For ye have need of patience." When I look at other English translations, some use the word patience while others say "For ye have need of endurance."
This causes me to question my own understanding of the word. When I said that it meant endurance, this comes from what I remember being taught by a Greek Professor whose ministry I sat under for some years. What he taught was not modern Greek but Koine Greek. I know there are differences between the two.
I'm questioning why some translations use the word patience while others use endurance? The NAS Exhaustive Concordance defines it as a remaining behind, a patient enduring. It also lists endurance, patient enduring, perseverance, and steadfastness. Thayer's Greek Lexicon gives the definition as: steadfastness, constancy, endurance, a patient, steadfast waiting for, a patient enduring, sustaining. Strong's Exhaustive Concordance defines it as endurance, constancy enduring, patience, patient continuance. The Greek Interlinear Bible says endurance.
As of now, I am going to stand by what I said. But I am going to do some more homework as to whether it should only say patience, endurance, or if either would be correct.
To rephrase my question, when Jesus was here, He had a large following of Jewish/Hebrew people. Many of them left Judaism to follow Him. What would be the consequences for a Jewish person for following Jesus? I've read accounts which help me to better understand some of the things written in the book of Hebrews.
I was not looking for a response but thank you. You said that "a verse has to be interpreted in accordance to the text of which it is a part of."
I fully agree with that and that is why I said what I did about Verse 39. I used it in context with the four verses you shared.
Now as far as this word patience in Hebrews 10:36, I'm guessing that you already know that the word patience doesn't do that verse any justice.
The proper word is endurance, not patience. There is a difference if we take it from an English standpoint.
But why endurance? And why after we have done the will of God? And why would we need to endure after receiving the promise.
Endurance comes first. So how do we do the will of God? By remaining under our circumstances. Giannis, I believe you already know that the word used in Verse 36 is the word HUPOMENO and it doesn't mean patience. It means to endure or remain under. That's how we do the will of God, by remaining under our circumstances and trusting Him. That's endurance.
As far as Hebrews 10:26 is concerned, that verse has nothing to do with a saved person walking away from or losing salvation.
Now in Hebrews 10:29, where it says "wherewith he was sanctified," that word sanctified does not necessarily mean salvation. Yes, the word sanctified (HAGIOS) means to be set apart, and when we receive Christ, we are sanctified, or set apart for His purposes.
But if you are saying that sanctified means salvation, what do we do with 1 Corinthians 7:14, "For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy."
Please let me ask you this. Do you know what would happen to a Jewish person back in Jesus' day if they would receive Jesus as their Messiah?
Hi Jesse
Let's g back to those verses in Hebrews 10:36-39. "36For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise. 37For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come and will not tarry. 38Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back my soul shall have no pleasure in him. 39But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul"
Firstly I have to say that a verse on its own is often a teaching without any need to refer to any other verses, but also, often a verse has to be interpreted in accordance to the text of which it is a part of.
So, verse 36. Why do we need to have patience to receive the promise AFTER we have done the will of God? Which is the promise that is implied? Salvation, of course. But why after? Here it is not implied after being born, because it says that we need patience. Patience is needed for us to do the will of God in our lives and after we do it, which means that we complete our lives, then we get the promise (if we keep on God's way till the very end). Paul also tries to encourage believers by saying that the Lord will not tarry, delay. The ancient church was always living with the expectation of an early second coming of Jesus (church historians say that as time went by and Jesus hadn't come back then that expectation faded away and the church started going the world's way)
Then in verse 38 Paul says that we live by faith, but if a man draws back ... Where from does they draw back if they never believed? The proper answer is from that faith. But let's leave for now verse 39 and go to preceding verses 26-30.
"26For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
28He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses
God bless you and yours, In Jesus mighty name.
Matthew 5:17; Hebrews 10:9
If you didn't understand the comments I made the first time, they is no need to comment farther.
Yes, Christ is coming back to this earth, and he is coming in the clouds of heaven, but not the way you have been taught by the traditions of man, It's a parable.
Search the scriptures, the answer is not in one chapter of one book.
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which is IN YOU will teach you all things, and you need not that any man teach you ...
Isaiah 28:11 For with stammering lips, and another tongue will he speak to his people.
The last day of THIS AGE, the feast of the passover, has been going on now for 2000 years, when it is complete will go to the NEXT AGE.
You have to understand the OLD, it was THE SHADOW of the NEW.
Hebrews 10:1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come .....
God Bless YOU!
Fourthly, the Ten Commandments were given to Israel & were binding upon them. Some of their objectives were:
a. to reveal the Holiness of the Eternal God to His people, Israel: Leviticus 19:2; Leviticus 20:7-8.
b. to set Israel apart as distinct from all the other nations: Exodus 19:5.
c. to reveal man's sinfulness: Galatians 3:19. Although the Law is "holy, just & good ( Romans 7:12), it did not provide salvation for the nation of Israel; and it cannot provide salvation to anyone who wants to or tries to keep the Law. No one will be declared righteous in God's sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of our sin ( Romans 3:20; Acts 13:38-39).
d. to show to humanity that not one person can fully keep the Law but everyone falls short of God's Standard of Holiness. Realizing that, should cause us to cast ourselves upon a Merciful God for His Forgiveness. When Jesus came, He fulfilled the requirements of the Law completely and by His death fully paid the penalty for their breaking it ( Galatians 3:24; Romans 10:4). Therefore, by His Obedience, He was qualified to be the accepted Sacrifice for all mankind, for all of our sins ( Hebrews 10:10-12). If Jesus failed in fully keeping the Law, He would have been disqualified as a Savior - all mankind would be forever stuck in the quagmire of their sins & hell would be the destiny. But He was raised from the dead to show His Father's acceptance, our justification & deliverance ( Romans 4:23-25).
I hope you can see Ani, that even though there was nothing wrong with the Law, even keeping the Sabbath by Israel, anyone who puts themselves under the Law (i.e. to find forgiveness or acceptance by God by it), is doomed to fail. Our Rest - continual rest (Sabbath) is now found in Jesus & not in Law-keeping & we can only be subject now to the Holy Spirit who enables us to fulfil both the spirit of the Law & finding the true rest in Christ Jesus ( 2 Corinthians 3:6-9; Romans 8:1-4).
I agree with what you stated.
"Do I need to get baptized along with trusting in Jesus to be saved?
Yes, by the Holy Spirit, not by water:"
Let's look upon another quote of yours concerning those who which the law was given. "Israel."
In Matthew 15:24 Jesus said "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel".
This was not an outright rejection of the Gentiles.
"Moments later, He heals the woman's daughter" but this was a fulfillment of prophecy, a setting of priorities, and a test of the woman's faith.
In Jeremiah 50:6, God calls Israel His people and "lost sheep."
The Messiah, spoken of throughout the Old Testament, was seen as the one who would gather these "lost sheep"
Ezekiel 34:23-24 Micah 5:4-5.
When Jesus presented Himself as a shepherd to Israel, He was claiming to be the fulfillment of Messianic prophecy
Mark 6:34, 14:27. John 10:11-16.
He is simply connecting His presence with God's purpose in Old Testament history. Christ was "born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law"
Galatians 4:4-5.
John the baptist was his forerunner who came in the office of Elisha to prepare the way. Malachi 4:4-6.
This was the baptism of John.
Acts 19:4. "This baptism was only for Israel." John was preparing the way!
Christ has not yet given charge to his disciples to go out to the ends of the earth to "IDENTIFY/BAPTIZE" the Gentiles with the gathered sheep of Israel.
In-fact he didn't send them until AFTER he died on the cross and rose from the dead to atone for the sins of the whole world.
All the offerings and ordinances was a foreshadow of things to come.
Colossians 2:13-17.
Hebrews 10:1-10.
God bless and
Goodnight.
Then in Romans 4:1-8, Paul gives an example of Abraham who was justified before God (i.e. declared righteous) without him having to work to obtain that right standing before God. If Abraham had any goodness within him that could secure God's Approval, then he would have to pat himself on the back, for God would give him no credit (loosely translated from verse 2). But as Genesis 15:6 states, "And he (Abram) believed in the LORD; and he (God) counted it to him for righteousness".
So Paul uses these illustrations to show that our righteousness before God can only come by faith alone in Him and nothing else. That being the case, how "blessed" are those who are completely forgiven, sins cast aside, and we now stand before the Lord uncondemned. When the Lord does not "impute" sin to the one made righteous by faith, that sin which was removed can no longer be reckoned or charged to his 'account' (i.e. not imputed). This of course, does not give the saved sinner liberty to continue to sin knowing he is made righteous before God, but now being saved from sin's penalty & God's Judgement, he by the power of the Holy Spirit within will now live unto God, dealing swiftly with any sin that surfaces. As 2 Corinthians 5:15 states, "And that he died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto him which died for them, and rose again." "...we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul" ( Hebrews 10:39).
We are indeed so blessed to be in this glorious position of being the beloved of God, accepted, uncondemned. Those thoughts should always be in the forefront of our hearts & minds when sin comes knocking at our door.
God made a covenant with the Israelites at Mt. Sinai which included promises and blessings, commandments and curses. The purpose of God's covenant was to distinguish these people from the people of surrounding nations. These were to be a holy people, sanctified by God, blessed by YHWH but also commanded to be obedient in order for Him to dwell among them. No other nation had been chosen by God to have His presence dwell in their midst. This is a unique act of God, consecrating the Israelites as His chosen holy nation. The covenant was God's expressed will for them, the basis for His blessings or discipline, the standard of holiness. Whether or not an act had great social significance, it had great spiritual significance. Sinning would defile the land and God's sanctuary with the people, thus causing Him to depart from them or drive them from the land promised. The stakes o this covenant were high. It is a most serious offense-a capital offense- to disregard and disdain the covenant of God. And this is true of both the Old Covenant and the new Covenant.
The capital offense of rejecting Jesus Christ leads to eternal death. So unbelievers are outside of the New Covenant and cursed.
Christians disdain and disrespect the New Covenant when they persist in sin. See Hebrews 10:26-31.
Christians disdain and disrespect the New covenant when they distort the gospel.
Christians disdain and disrespect the New Covenant when they refuse to live their life by a higher standard than that of the society they live in.
We are to be salt and light. We are to take sin seriously, as Leviticus 20 shows us, and to desire to live godly lives. We are to yield to the sanctifying work of the Holy Spirit as He works in us to change us from glory to glory to become more and more like Jesus until we are made perfect (holy) as He is perfect (holy). ( Heb. 6:1, Eph. 1:4; 1 Pet.1:16; Rev. 22:11)
I would put a pitch in here for those searching to consider (after of course checking the validity) of online arranged marriages for Christians. That is a way to assure that we get to know the families ahead of time; and people are matched up with the wisdom of the temperments that the parents deem worthy for their daughters. It also avoids some of the silly dating and other situations that can lead to temptation; as well as getting down to business. It also is a good way to maintain Christian fellowship long term with families.
At least I can say with some confidence that it is better than many other "online" sites where people can photo shop their faces; or "reinvent" themselves to create whatever fantasy another may have to suit their purposes; or to find some way after a time to rip them off financially; etc. We also don't get a good idea of how valid someone's faith is in that way. Not to say that it can't work but I would take up my arranged marriage suggestion first before randomly looking for love on dating sites...
Of course what is well known by counsellors is that no one can "make you happy" if you are miserable within. only the Lord Jesus is transformative in the inner man; He is our confidence; our portion and our cup. ( Psalm 16:15; 1 John 5:14; Hebrews 10:35-36). Joy is a spiritual fruit and of course our faith in the Lord must take priority over everything and everyone. Psalm 37:3-4 asks us to TRUST in the Lord (take delight in Him) and He will give us the desires of our heart.
To find a partner we must trust that they will come alongside us in a time fitting with His plans. It should involve a help mate that will build us up as we fulfill the ministry or vocation He has called us in. I would venture to say normally we don't have to search at all but if we do it should be more like Genesis 24:1-10 when Abraham sent his servant out to find someone of his people for Isaac.
These verses are in context and contradict what you are claiming, but even though they're in context and you just click or hover over it to read the whole chapter or book you just dismissed it as not being in context.
I noticed your response didn't have any Bible verses supporting your view.
I believe in and stand by Jesus's words. It sounds like you're accusing Jesus of being about "works." You do so at your own risk. I will not be ashamed for believing in what Jesus says, even if people use all kinds of tricks to attack.
Jesus: "If ye love me, keep my commandments." John 14:15
You: No, don't obey, because that's works.
Is that really your position that it's "bad" to obey Jesus, and "good" to not obey Jesus?
If so, that sounds exactly like something satan would say. Such a clever deception to get people to believe its somehow bad to do good and good to do bad. As if God wants people to disobey Him!?
Also I noticed you used the same straw man argument everyone else has been taught to use that if you want to follow Jesus then automatically you're trying to work towards heaven and there's no other possibility. I already said we're saved by grace, which seemed to be ignored. Of course I already answered this fallacy in advance, but maybe you didn't read it or did and claimed this fallacy anyway. Anyway, I feel a moral obligation to counter the lies on here and anyone claiming that its bad to follow and bad to obey Jesus is just is not speaking the truth. The Bible warns Christians of this throughout scripture.
Matthew 7:21-23
Hebrews 10:26
Hebrews 6:4-6
James 2:14-26
Matthew 12:31-32
Romans 14:12
1 Peter 1:5
1 Cor 9:24-27
2 Peter 3:17
Luke 8:5-18
1 Timothy 4:1
2 Peter 2:20-22
Hebrews 3:12
Galatians 5:4
1 Corinthians 15:2-8
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
Hebrews 10:36 "For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise."
Gal 5:4 "ye are fallen from grace."
Matthew 10:22 "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."
"Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him." James 1:12 KJV
"Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory." 2 Timothy 2:10 KJV
Salvation is conditional upon following Christ. Those who hate or don't follow Christ aren't going to be saved, based on what the Bible says.
John 14:15 "If ye love me, keep my commandments."
Matthew 7:21-23
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."
I don't know how some can read these verses and twist them into meaning anything other than what they mean. This should be prayed about very deeply.
God bless.
God said this:
Matthew 12:32 "...but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come."
So, God clearly tells us we will NOT be forgiven if we commit this sin and what I hear you saying is that we WILL. Both are not true. One is false. I tend to believe what God says, not what man says. Because God already said if you blaspheme the Holy Ghost you will NOT be forgiven then that is the truth. That makes anything contrary to that false and in some cases a blatant lie.
But maybe people don't like that verse and want to discredit it. Well, here's another then:
Hebrews 10:26 "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,"
But I believe this misunderstanding has 2 dimensions. One is when we are "saved" and the other is "eternal security." The Bible doesn't say we're saved before we're judged. This is something Christians for years have been mentally "filling in the blanks" on but if you read carefully God never once said we will be instantly saved the second we believe. If you have a verse claiming that, please share it. But I can assure you for every verse you share, there's probably twice as many saying otherwise.
1 Peter 1:13 "...hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;"
"Hope" not, guarantee, but "hope." Grace "that is to be brought" future tense. It doesn't say now, or past tense.
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time."
This refutes man's claims of being saved now and can go to adult clubs and do whatever they want. That's exactly what satan is trying to convince people of. Very clever deception.
1 Cor 9:24-27 "run the race", not the 'race was already won.'
Matthew 24:13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
Hebrews 10:36.
Where is your evidence of the opposite of Gods words? God bless.
When I said Gigi this is the example I have given when one trample over the blood of Christ. Hebrews 10:29.
I was referring to another thread where I said to act as tho Christ blood shed on the cross is inadequate and try to add our filthy rags to His finish work it's like what is mentioned here in Hebrews 10:28-28.
I also would like to add.
Hebrews 10:20-24. By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
And having an high priest over the house of God;
LET US DRAW NEAR WITH A TRUE HEART IN FULL ASSURANCE OF FAITH, HAVING OUR HEARTS SPRINKLED FROM AN EVIL CONSCIENCE, AND OUR BODIES WASHED WITH PURE WATER.
LET US HOLD FAST THE PROFESSION OF OUR FAITH WITHOUT WAVERING; (FOR HE IS FAITHFUL THAT PROMISED;)
And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
We can be sure!!
Gigi this is the example I have given when one trample over the blood of Christ. Hebrews 10:29.
Romans 10:4-11. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
FOR WITH THE HEART MAN BELIEVETH UNTO RIGHTEOUSNESS; AND WITH THE MOUTH CONFESSION IS MADE UNTO SALVATION.
( If you claim you don't know that you are saved until you die and is judged how do you confess it?
WITH THE MOUTH CONFESSION IS MADE UNTO SALVATION IS TO LATE IF YOU ARE DEAD!
( Here's one of many verses that speaks on eternal security)
FOR THE SCRIPTURE SAITH, WHOSOEVER BELIEVETH ON HIM SHALL NOT BE ASHAMED.
Was not Christ judged on the cross taking the penalty of our sins? Yes.
Was he not the Lamb of God? Yes.
Was it sufficient? Isaiah 53:7-10.
How many of those sins was future?
If you can earn it you can loose it.
But if it is a gift and you didn't earn it, how could you loose it?
We are saved by GRACE.
For by grace are ye saved "THROUGH FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.
For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:8-10.
Grace can't be taken away.
God bless.
What scripture verse do you claim to be the source of your idea that faith is a result of salvation?
And what scripture verse do you cite to claim that you're saved now before you're even judged?
Paul said the one verse you're citing, but did you notice that Paul also warned ( 1 Cor 4:14) Christians to obey and not stray from the faith. God gives you that choice- he will allow you to commit despicable evil as we see people do every day, as is covered by the news. Christians also leave the faith, as evidenced by those we know in person and those forum groups like on Reddit where they talk about it. To deny this reality is to deny truth. Did God cause them to leave the faith? No, people did using their own freewill and bad choices. They will not be saved if they are not following Christ. Not all Christians will be "saved" on judgment day.
I don't know if you believe in freewill or not, that God is forcing you to type things on this site you don't want to say of if you believe you are doing it. If God forces you to eat things you don't want to eat like Taco Bell or ice cream. But about freewill of course there's only one truth- either its true or not, not both. And its true for me, so are people claiming its not true for them? And is that God speaking through them that its not true or is that their own doing and how can they 100% prove they are not in control of their bodies whatsoever? Some may be deceived and use this as justification to sin against God and perhaps some may be dishonest about it.
1 Cor 4:5 says to judge nothing before the Lord comes and then the Lord will then judge us, but people seem to like judging themselves as saved so some can then make excuses to disobey God.
Romans 15:5 Paul says we need endurance. He warns us, says to endure, and 1 Corinthians 9:24 says to run the race so to win the prize. The refutes the popular narrative.
1 Peter 1:5 - "...salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”
Hebrews 10:26, James 2:14-26, Matthew 7:21-23
Great topic.
Wilful sin is a big issue as the article mentioned.
Hebrews 10:26-27. For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Here's also a commonly looked over sin.
James 4:17. Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
Sometimes we as Christians think we have the balances in our hands to tell the degree of the offence so we weigh the sin against another man's sin. That seems to give us comfort to continue in our folly.
We should understand that we have been bought/Redeemed with the blood of Christ!
Here is where we examine ourselves to see if Christ Lords over our life.
Galatians 2:20-21. I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
This righteousness is not just Positionally it is practical. It should be on display "BECAUSE" it is energized by the Spirit.
This is not how well we serve, it's WHO we serve and WHO is glorified.
It's the outward act that shows the inward parts. ( The regenerated heart.)
If we count the blood of Christ dear to us we should have a fear of offending the grace of God, so his word and our our worship should line up with scripture.
Our walk and zeal confirms our attitude towards the ransom.
Another way to treat the blood of Christ as if it wasn't enough and try to add to it is to say "You don't except it or perhaps don't believe it.
God bless.
Your question intrigued me, as true believers, endued with God's Spirit, will always consider Christ's Sacrifice & the necessary shedding of His Blood as most vital for their forgiveness & transformation, the other part of your question, of "ways believers can defile or profane the blood of Jesus, thus trampling it underfoot", I wondered about. I doubt whether genuine believers can ever "defile or profane" the Sacrifice that Jesus made for them.
Your statement took me to Hebrews 10:29: "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?" Though there are opinions on this epistle, mine continues to focus on it being sent to the Hebrews, i.e. those of Jewry who have turned to Christ & meeting in various congregations outside of Palestine. But some, having left Judaism behind & drawn to Christ, were not necessarily converted. They may have confessed their faith, been baptized in water, even some demonstration of a heart change & 'gifts' used in the Church. But a large portion of this letter is an apologetic to the superiority of Christ to that of the Old Covenant & Laws, which the Hebrews writer would not address in such detail unless there was some problem amongst those who were considering abandoning the 'faith' & returning to Judaism.
Though this letter is an encouragement to them, it also came as a grave warning. And here in Hebrews 10:29 (as also seen elsewhere), the warning was to those in such a spiritual state, that to return to Judaism effectively meant that they have determined that Jesus & His Sacrifice meant nothing & Judaism was the only answer. No further sacrifice availed for them.
For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.
For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.
But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.
Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, SACRIFICE AND OFFERINGS THOU WOULDEST NOT, BUT A BODY HADST THOU PREPARED ME:
In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.
Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;
Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.
BY TH WHICH WILL WE ARE SANCTIFIED THROUGH THE OFFERING OF THE BODY OF CHRIST ONCE FOR ALL.
Hebrews 10:1-10.
I love the way you broke down 1 Peter 2:5 in the Greek.
"Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up SPIRITUAL SACRIFICES, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ" We have a spiritual Temple/House now ("Temple" in grk (Naos) means "Place of Residence") and as priest we offer our prayers for people as spiritual sacrifices to Father God.
It parallels with Philippians 2:13.
For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Doing the act of these things you mentioned in the flesh "for carnal reasons" (for show, glory, etc. etc.) or APART from a regenerated heart we are incapable of pleasing God.
By the spirit we are able to worship him in truth and in spirit.
Thanks, and God bless for all you do.
Isaiah says that God was gonna make a man more precious then Gold even the golden wedge of Ophir...which is gonna be by his fire of the H.G....in the last day i will pour out of my spirit on all flesh... Joel 2:32
Isaiah said that Knowledge ( An intimacy that is gonna cover this earth resulting in a New BIRTH for every man)...If i be lifted up i will draw all men unto me....While we were yet sinners Christ shed his blood for every man....He has to know us thats when we get that good seed that initiates a new Birth....thats y we need the contents of the book the living words of God.
Who shall abide the day of his coming, Who shall stand when he appears...( 2 nd coming )...For he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap....A cleasing fire..Malichi 3 :2...Every sinner has to have his part in the lake of fire...As our God is a Consuming fire...That H.G. FIRE....Remember Jesus said i come to bring fire on the earth which is his baptism of the H.G. and fire....Judgement must began in the house of God...In our hearts and minds etc...I will make a man more precious then Gold...Thus his baptism of the H.G.and Fire.
....I was found of them that sought me not and i was made manifest to them that asked not after me... Hebrews 10:20...The blood of this new Covenant is stronger then anymans sins
When that book is opened in the fathers right HAND we will all sing a new SONG...We will not sing this churchanity Song much longer...The contents of the book ( the living words of God) is gonna be sown in mans hearts...Abide in me and i in you.
.....Thats when peter saw a new heaven and a new earth...Which answers to our new heart and new spirit...So Rob i believe that what Jesus did at Calvary is gonna make us all Absolute Sons of God and the very Israel of God.
So Jesus described the character of this generation. He says that an evil and adulterous generation seeks for a sign.
So please be careful if you are a "signs and wonders" seeker. Jesus said that a wicked and an adulterous generation seeks for a sign. It is adultery, it is spiritual adultery!
Did Jesus perform miracles and give signs? Yes. But they were to point to Him. People were not supposed to follow signs, and we are still not supposed to follow them today, but many still do.
We know from 2 Thessalonians Chapter 2 that the antichrist, when he comes, that he is going to perform signs and wonders, miracles, and he's going to say that he is god and he's going to deceive many.
I think that people are setting themselves up today, and they are making it easy for themselves to be deceived when the antichrist comes. Some are constantly looking for signs that point to the end time.
We as believers do not need signs. We are told three times in the New Testament that we are to live by faith. ( Romans 1:17, Galatians 3:11, Hebrews 10:38)
Once again; we need to understand that with knowledge comes responsibility. There are some who are immature in the faith that simply don't know scripture well enough to clearly see parameters that they should follow and hence that slip into sin. But those that willingly sin and know the truth are going to be in a worse state than those who never knew the truth. (See Hebrews 10:26).
We need to avoid slipping into violence to solve our problems as God states "vengeance is mine; I will repay ( Romans 12:19). Extremism is pushing us in that direction of violent opposition. We need to wisely choose our battles; remaining wise as serpents; innocent as doves. ( Matt. 10:16).
God will even use babes and children to praise Him ( Psalms 8:2). He has his armies of angels to stand before and behind us to defend us when He chooses to do so. It is His sovereign will to either deliver us FROM judgment or through it (although His people are delivered from wrath according to Romans at least related to the end of the Tribulation. Those who are martyred in the end will be lifted up to rule and reign with Christ if they indeed stood in the true faith.
May we be watchmen as Ezekiel warns or the blood of those who are destroyed will be required of us. Only God can laugh at the calamity of the wicked; our job is to lovingly rescue those who are taken captive by the devil to do his will. God knows who will and won't respond; even if no one we talk to does; we are to declare His victory as faithful servants. In this we honor God.
That is the main concern of revivals that appeal to a "numbers game" as many churches do today to gain prominence; financial benefits etc. We should warn to flee the wrath to come but also exhort those that the road is narrow and few will come to faith.
The days of the "easy peasy" belief system may be passing since COVID took out some churches and probably irreversably reduced the percentage of those who go to church.