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why is it that Moses name is not in the book of genesis and which date is the book written and why is that people attributed it to moses

falling from grace is excepting Jesus as your saviour, knowing the word of God , then go out and forget all he did for us sinners, and continue in the worldly pleasures, because you excepted him isn't a free pass to continue in sin, that's like a slap in the face

Jesus said that everyone has to salted with fire which is baptism of the H.G. A Spritual fire that is gonna CLEANSE US, in the natural gold has to be tried in fire to remove all the impurities ( OUR SIN NATURE ) as OUR God is a CONSUMING FIRE that is gonna consume mans evil nature Who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears he shall be as A REFINERS FIRE and FULLERS SOAP.

If saved

Nichole, that is a very good question! We fall from grace when we choose the world and it's ways above GOD and the values He requires us to live by. GOD's will MUST be preeminent! That means His will comes before all else, even those fleshly desires we believe we must fulfill.

Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith. He was despise by our shame died on the cross so that you and me will have life. Thank you Jesus for the blood you shed for us amen hallelujah

Nichole: Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are Justified by The Law; ye are Fallen from Grace. Galatians 5:4

Nichole 2 Peter 2:21 states you can turn from the truth Col 1:23 says you can be moved away from the hope of the gospel. Adam and Eve teaches us sin separates us from God, notice he calls for Adam he knew where he was but sin had made them fall. The wages of sin is death unrepented sin will separate us. We are children of God or the devil. We only can serve one master.

We fall from grace when we decide to sin and follow through on it.

how do you fall from grace

Verse 15 clearly states one can fall from Grace. We must contend for the faith Jude 1:3 and we must endure unto the end Matt 24:13. Those that have been washed (saved) are eternally secure but not unconditionally we must accompany the things of salvation Heb 6:9.

"But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons...as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears." Although born into divine privilege he chose to be heathen instead!

Verse 1~In the race for everlasting life we must have endurance. There are so many things that could distract us and make us lose focus, but if we keep enduring we will gain the prize.

Verse 8: Proper discipline from our parents is an expression of their love for us.

So powerful

"Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:" Hebrews 12:14 The Lord Jesus laid out for us EXACTLY how to do this in the Sermon On The Mount, as well in ALL OF HIS TEACHINGS AND PARABLES. This is what the teaching of the Law and the Prophets is. This is the Life of Christ and Christians exposed and expounded in the Psalms, Proverbs and Sacred Writings. NOT just hearing and agreeing, but real life doing, and taking a prescribed course in life after the Spirit of Christ, shall we truly be those of whom this word is fulfilled.

servant; Jesus was not "a beacon who realized..." but He is and has ever been from everlasting with the Father, the eternal and divine Son of God! If you look at the 6th Chapter of Genesis, you will see that it was precisely that very reason for the LORD to say, "My Spirit will not always strive with man, for that HE ALSO IS FLESH." Those who can't quit sinning are in defiance and disobedience!

"Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin." When Paul wrote this Epistle to the Hebrew Believers; he very much had to address the indolence and apostasy that they had succumbed to, and took great pains to thoroughly convict them by expounding the deep things of the Scriptures. While most are so uncircumcised in heart to endure any correction, how can they expect victory over sin?

Disciple, You are flesh and blood which decays and dies if you doubt the Spirit is the life whom God is the Father of. Jesus was a beacon who realized that the Kingdom is within and we can only serve the Father and hope in his salvation. GOD-SPIRIT

There is no wavering or uncertainty with the Apostle; and there is to be no wavering nor uncertainty with ANY of the Saints! Who is a liar, but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ! If someone contradicts the truth of the Glad Tidings, he opposes the good and perfect completion of Christ's work, which the Father sent Him to do; which is to SAVE US FROM OUR SINS and create us anew for signs!

Paul wavers a bit saying that we are not exonerated of sin in fact because Jesus took the stripes but it is the Chastening of the Father that heals inequity, that salves our wounds if we repent. No one is without sin and no one can forgive sins but the Father and those whom He has sent. Jesus endured the ultimate Chastening on the cross and now witnesses to the mercy of the Father forever.amen

There is, ever will be, only one righteous man, the Lord Jesus Christ. We may be like him, by God's grace, and in doing so, experience blessing only provided to saved believers, brethren of the Lord, by the blood of Christ. "He is the author and finisher of our faith". Hebrews 12:2 Sinners can become righteous, but not by works,"for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified" Gal.2:16

The Lake of Fire ( Rev. 20:10) The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

lake of fire is mentioned 4 times in the KJV bible, read it in Revelation 19: 20 - Revelation 20:10 - Revelation 20:14 - and Revelation 20:15. As I see it, it is the eternal hell fire.

I am curious about the final verse. The baptism of John (repentance) is of water, but the baptism of Yeshua is with fire - which is the giving of the the Holy Spirit. We see here that Yehovah is a consuming fire - which is His Righteous Judgment. So what is the lake of fire then? Is it a physical place, or simply refering to the Judgment of Yehovah?

See 1 Corinthians 3:15

Verse 16: One who commits sexual immorality is likened to having the attitude of Esau. He was willing to trade something valuable for a few fleeting moments of physical pleasure.

Verse 3: Considering the things that Jesus went through can help us when we endure trials.

Sean,sin is never a minor offence.Sin takes one from Holy to unholy.( Leviticus 19:2) "Ye shall be holy:for I the LORD your God am holy." ( Hebrews 12:14) "Follow peace with all men,and holiness,without which no man shall see the Lord."

Annwashi1955; Hebrews 12:2 LOOKING UNTO JESUS! We are taught by the Lord, and all His servants, that we are set to encounter tribulation, temptations, opposition and contradiction, from the world, the flesh, and the devil. The only way for us to walk in constant victory and a good conscience toward God, is by an earnest contending through the Spirit, out of a deeply established heart for Jesus.

This is such a great and important lesson for us! Temptations and trials are for discipline. Chastisement shows that we are loved and wanted. Its because God wants us to be like Him in all our character and nature and behavior, that He rebukes us for the things that do not make for good fruit in the Spirit. We should follow Jesus' example of thinking more of obedience than of suffering humiliation