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Praise the Lord! Misty,

Thank God for saving you and Jesus Christ loves you and here are some scriptures that helped me in my walk with the Lord.

Acts 2:38, Proverbs 3:5, Hebrews 13:5, Isaiah 43:25, and Matthew chapter 6. I have been listening to youtube-Honest News Network-Brother Joseph Skinner and it has helped me to get closer to the Lord.

God bless you and may the Lord keep you safe under his wings Psalms 17:8 and my prayers are with you to be strong in the Lord.

Hello Jesse,

Please forgive me as I don't want to get in between the discussion of you & Adam. Though I feel to write my perception on this matter. As I believe it is important to us all.

To begin I don't feel what you stated about the two Greek words for "good", meaning one is of God and the other of men, is completely accurate. First I would say everything good is of God weather the person knows God literally or not. As Love is of God and those who abide in love are of Him to 1 John 4:7. Now weather that person has been drawn to the light, Jesus Christ, yet is up to God. Also stated in Romans 2:12-15 about how those who do what is right or "good", even though they have not heard the law, shows Gods law written on their hearts. They being obedient to God and not even knowing it.

Back to the word "good" in the Greek. The two words you gave are the two words used the most for "good" in the NT. G18 and G2570. Though they are not the only words used for simply put "good". We have "cherestotes-G5544", "eudokia-G2107', and "eupoiia-G2140" for a couple others. Showing in Hebrews 13:16 that just because it's not the word "agoth.." doesn't mean God isn't pleased with it.

Also how in a couple instances like 1 Timothy 6:18, and 1 Timothy 5:10. the words "agoth.." and "kalos" are both used in the same verse.

Now of coarse what you stated in that if someone seems to be trying to "earn" there way into Heaven, by good works, hopefully they will find out there is only one way and that is Jesus Christ. We have all fallen short in our lives. Thanks be to the Grace of our Father in Heaven He sent us His Son. To now focus on Him and let Him lead the way for us. We need Jesus Christ our Lord just as we need our Father in Heaven.

God Bless you Jesse. Please don't let my message come to you the wrong way. It is from the heart.

My comments addressed all the godless humanist "ISM's - among which, ZIONISM, 1896, and NOT the book of Genesis, which is also God's living Word prophesying the coming of Christ Jesus Messiah Lord God Savior Redeemer in GENESIS 3:15, KJV, where Christ is referred to as THE SEED OF WOMAN, and not as "descendant" or "offspring" that begs focus and concentration on carnal biological genealogical flesh lineage that contradicts God's Word in the Book of John that we are BORN OF GOD and that THE FLESH IS OF NO AVAIL ( JOHN 1: 1-18; JOHN 3:16; JOHN 6:63; JOHN 17:3; HEBREWS 8:13; HEBREWS 13:8; REVELATION 1:7; REVELATION 20, 21, 22, KJV 1611, HOLY BIBLE). ***

"took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men" Philippians 2:7

"his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh" Romans 8:3

"The first man Adam is of the earth, earthy: the second man Jesus is the Lord from heaven" 1 Corinthians 15:47

"He can not deny himself" 2 Timothy 2:13

"Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and forever" Hebrews 13:8

"For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world: but that the world through him might be saved" John 3:17

"This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acception, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners" 1 Timothy 1:15

"For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost" Luke 19:10

"Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved" Acts 4:12

"And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me. This signifying what death he should die" John 12:32-33

John Chapter 19- whole chapter

"In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins" Ephesians 1:7

"Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood" Revelation 1:5

"Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver or gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot" 1 Peter 1:18-19

"And he is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world" 1 John 2:2

"Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it" Acts 2:24

1 Corinthians Chapter 15 whole chapter

Hello Andrew,

Thank you for conversing with me on these couple subjects. Please let this be the end of our discussion with all respect.

About The Word of God not being Jesus Christ is your own belief. It is not from the pits of hell. Hebrews 1:1-4, Revelation 1:17-18, Revelation 2:26-27, Revelation 3:20-21, Revelation 19:11-16. We are to honor the Son the same way we honor the Father, John 5:21-23. The Messiah/Christ being the anointed one of God. ( 1 John 2:23-24.

Just to straighten up a little with reply about receiving the Holy Ghost. I never said my experience, or experiences, was "feeling peace". Me stating most people in the world would not believe my experiences is because they are supernatural things. It was not me who chose God, He chose me. I know not why. All glory be to Jesus Christ our Lord and our Father in Heaven.

I don't know of any Scripture of people receiving the Holy Ghost just by "feeling peace". Although I do know of one that doesn't state it was after a water baptism nor did they speak in tongues. Acts 11:11-18.

I hope our discussion shall keep you from discrediting other believers in the Lord just because they don't speak in unknown tongues. We should all try to help one another with our faith in the Lord. Hebrews 13:1-2.

Peace be with you.

Hebrews 10:22-24 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for He is faithful that promised;)

And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:

Hebrews 13:15-16 By Him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to His name.

But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased.

Hebrews 13:20-21 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great Shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant,

Make you perfect in every good work to do His Will, working in you that which is wellpleasing in His sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Hi Sacha, Thank you. Together we can do better (me included).

Hebrews 13:1

Carleton

DeLonne Jones,

"How does a pastor's wife forgive him for adulterous behavior of 6 years?" "Clearly repentance & Godley sorrowful."

I would say that your forgiveness is dependent on believing the truth of his repentence. However, it is something you will probably never forget. Obviously your situation is made more difficult by his illness and a true healing of the marriage may never reach to your satisfaction. In accepting your role of care giver you have demonstrated your love for him and the vows you voiced. What you have shown is what is true about love, namely, that is based on a commitment and not feelings. You should understand that his dementia will produce numerous instances of hurt to your feelings. That is a byproduct of the illness and would occur even without his infidelity.

Your best and only true help, the repair to your heart, is in what comes from your relationship with God. "I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee" Hebrews 13:5 There may very well come a time when for physical or spiritual reasons you cannot go on as his caregiver. I trust you will find it hard to bare, because it will be to you as him being dead/estranged. I pray you will find a morning in your days to come when joy will again fill your heart.

I pray the next time this occurs that you will ask God to give you the strength to approach and acknowledge this person. (I pray this for myself as well!)

If I may;

We Must step out of our personal comfort zones and provide love and acknowledgement. A simple smile and hello.. "As I sat here today God placed my attention on you. I just wanted to say hello and to see if there is anything that I could help you with today or talk about." Try very simple open ended questions. Ask if you can get them a coffee or water(if your church offers them).

May I share a personal experience;

I had a similar encounter once. Due to pride and friends being around I dismissed this person. God placed that action upon my mind and heart for weeks. I felt shameful. I kept hoping that I would see this person again so that I could "redeem" myself. One day, out of nowhere, this person appeared again. One of my friends actually made a rude, judgemental, comment about this person and pointed at her as she walked out of the building. I immediately walked away to Run outside of the building. I approached her as she sat in her car. I apologized, first, for "bothering" her. We then had a simple conversation. The result from stepping out of my comfort zone was overwhelming. What I would like to refer to is Hebrews 13:12. At the end of our conversation this woman looked deep into my eyes, grabbed my hands and said "Today, a child is born." She smiled and said "God Bless You" and then left. In this moment I was overcome by a feeling I can only describe as, God or God's presence. Overcome by the Holy Spirit. I learned something that day that I will never forget.

We can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens us. Always, remember that.

I apologize for a long response but sometimes our actions ARE the answers to the prayer. Does that make sense?

God Bless

Amen Thank You Our Father Amen

David, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The angel of the Lord of the old testament is the same as Jehovah of the old testament and is the same that came in the flesh that we know as Jesus Christ and is now back in the glorified body he has had since he was begotten of the Father. The angel of the Lord is a man in a glorified body, Jehovah is a man in a glorified body. Jehovah set aside his glorified body and took upon himself a body like sinful flesh and was manifest as the man Jesus Christ who died for us to reconcile his brothers and sisters to the Father. Then at his resurrection took back the glorified body he laid down for us. Let's look at some of the scriptures that shed light on this. All angels have glorified bodies like their archangel the angel of the Lord.

Exodus 3:2 The angel of the Lord appeared to him (Moses) in a flame of fire......

Exodus 3:14 And God (Jehovah) said unto Moses (as the angel of the Lord out of the burning bush)I AM that I AM.....

John 8:58 .... before Abraham was, I AM.

Genesis 18:1 And the Lord appeared unto him (Abraham).....

Genesis 18:2 And he (Abraham) lift up his eyes and looked, and lo, THREE MEN stood by him...

Genesis 18:22 And the (two) men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord (Jehovah, the third man).

Genesis 32:24 And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man.....

Hosea 12:4 Yet he (Jacob) had power over the angel......

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entered angels unawares.

Psalm 103:20 Bless ye the Lord, ye HIS ANGELS....

Meditate upon the implications this last verse implies.

There are many more scriptures that parallel the angel, Jehovah and Jesus Christ, but not enough space in 2000 words to write them all.

Ask for the Spirits wisdom and understanding and YE SHALL RECEIVE.

Thank you

We don't know anything about him, except that he was the Apostle Paul's scribe for this letter to the Roman believers. Paul often had others to write for him, as we suppose, he had some problems with his eyes. See Galatians 6:11, where he himself writes to them in large, bold letters (rather than a lengthy letter).

Who was Tertius?

I know I have read this about our leaders will act as children but I can't find it now. Can you point it out for me please. Thanks

Would there happen to be an audible version or a virtual bible study group for young woman around the age of 24 years old

You were nearly there :) Try Psalm 22:3. Though this refers to Israel yet it too is our experience, when we "offer the sacrifice of praise to God continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name." ( Hebrews 13:15).

Hebrews 13:5; John 14:18; 1 Corinthians 7:13. Not sure what aspect of this that you're thinking of.

Hebrews 13:5 Let your conversation be without covetousness and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

Disappointment comes to all of us as we remain in hope that something we've planned for or what has been told us, fails to materialize. It is an unnerving experience that can render some people quite helpless, but God is there for times such as these.

Romans 12:2 says it this way: "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God." Even though we generally understand this verse warning the believer not to behave as the unsaved world does & adopt a new way of thinking, it also has implications to the believer not to conform to the world that sets its hope on the finite & material aspects of it, rather than putting faith in the God Who knows & does all things well.

The believer does at times suffer disappointments, but ought to immediately look heavenward & commit himself & those matters to the Lord Who will bring it to pass in His Time, & generally in a manner above what we could have expected or planned for.

Some other Scriptures to reflect upon: Philippians 4:6,7; Romans 8:28; Jeremiah 29:11; Psalm 73:23-26; Psalm 121:1-8; Psalm 42:11; Matthew 6:33; Proverbs 3:5,6; 1 Peter 5:6,7; John 14:27; Hebrews 13:5. And many more, to show us there is comfort & help as we wait upon the Lord with our concerns & disappointments in this life.

Norman Walker Butch, Genesis7:9 plainly states that as Noah and his family, were in the ark, the animals came to him, two by two. God brought to the ark those to be saved.

what does it mean to ''suffer with out the gate''? And are there other references to a gate that are the same etymology as in this verse?

what does it mean to ''suffer with out the gate''? And are there other references to a gate that are the same etymology as in this verse?

Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine. For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward. ( 1 Timothy 5:17-18)

Remember them which have the rule over you, who have spoken unto you the word of God: whose faith follow, considering the end of their conversation. ( Hebrews 13:7)

But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices God is well pleased. Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you. ( Hebrews 13:16-17)

You're quite correct in your observations about the many, who for reasons known only to themselves, promote themselves or their errant teachings to the deception & detriment of many gullible believers. But how can we judge them in all truth? Each one of us will have to stand before God for the Truth we hold onto & disseminate to others. And particularly so to those in leadership & appointed to care for our spiritual well-being ( Hebrews 13:17).

By the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ remember this

Philippians 4:6-10 (KJV)

[6] Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God. [7] And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. [8] Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things. [9] Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you.

Hebrews 13:5-6

[5] Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee. [6] So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

My God bless.

Nancy, the Scripture I like in respect to what you've asked is in Ephesians 1:13,14: "In whom (Jesus) ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom (Jesus) also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory."

The verse reminds us that after we heard the Gospel & subsequently put our trust (faith) in Jesus, we were immediately given God's Seal of Promise. And this came to us through His Gift of His Spirit into our lives. And this was absolutely necessary to happen, as the Spirit's Presence is the "earnest" (the guarantee) of our inheritance: inheritance of our new relationship to the Godhead, of all of God's Blessings, Power, Joy & Peace and the guarantee that God would never leave us or forsake us, just as God promised in His Word: Deuteronomy 13:6 & the direct NT quote in Hebrews 13:5. And this Promise is fully seen by the presence of the Spirit in the lives of God's children.

But Eph 1:14 goes on to say that this "sealing" & this "guarantee" by the Spirit is only until "the redemption of the purchased possession". I understand this to mean that when we finally get to Heaven (& indeed, 'what a day of rejoicing that will be'), the Spirit's presence will no longer be indwelling us as we will be in the presence of God & His Son Jesus. Jesus, in Heaven right now, is seated at His Father's right Hand & in the Body (now glorified) He had on Earth. And so we too shall be ( 1 John 3:2) in the day of our translation (Rapture) when both those alive & dead in Christ arise to be with the Lord forever.

So our Redemption comes in two phases: redemption of our spiritual entity, when our spirits once given over to serving Satan, now have been redeemed by Christ's Blood to belong to & serve our Holy God. And redemption of the physical, when our bodies are transformed to live with Him.

Bible Commentary for Hebrews 13:17

Wesley's Notes for Hebrews

13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you - The word implies also, that lead or guide you; namely, in truth and holiness. And submit yourselves - Give up (not your conscience or judgment, but) your own will, in all things purely indifferent. For they watch over your souls - With all zeal and diligence, they guard and caution you against all danger. As they that must give account - To the great Shepherd, for every part of their behaviour toward you. How vigilant then ought every pastor to be! How careful of every soul committed to his charge! That they may do this - Watch over you. With joy and not with groans - He is not a good shepherd, who does not either rejoice over them, or groan for them. The groans of other creatures are heard: how much more shall these come up in the ears of God ! Whoever answers this character of a Christian pastor may undoubtedly demand this obedience.

People's Bible Notes for Hebrews 13:17

Heb 13:17 Obey them that have the rule over you. Your elders or bishops. For they watch for your souls. Give them deference on this account, and because they must give account to the Master of those committed to their trust.

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I ask for you to join with me in praying for my marriage. My wife has been in pursuit of another man for about a year and is going to pick up his daughter to get their nails done. She is trying to trick him into being with her claiming she is single. She has an online dating profile. I am praying for reconciliation, restoration, protection of our marriage, forgiveness and healing: Matthew 19:16, Hebrews 13:14, Colossians 3:13, Ephesians 4:31-32, Psalm 147:3, 1 Peter 3:8, Psalm 19:14, Psalm 18:30, Romans 12:10