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That's true Bob. In His Humanity, Jesus was 'separate' from His Father: the Word of God made flesh ( John 1:14). In the flesh, Jesus faced all the temptations, pain & heartaches that we feel, even as you shared, He felt loneliness by the Father's aloofness at that important time - that is why it's written concerning His Humanity, "For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted" ( Hebrews 2:18). Jesus was perfect Man, doing His Father's Will & then to return to Heaven from whence He came. Even as He prayed, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." This little verse alone tells us a lot about Who this Jesus is before He came to give Himself for us.

Psalms 139, Isaiah 41:10,

Psalms 130:4, Colossians 1:14, Ephesians 1:7, Acts 26:18, Luke 7:47,48, Psalms 32:1, Acts 8:22, Psalms 85:2,

Ephesians 4:26,

Proverbs 11:3,

Psalms 119:16, Hebrews 2:18, James 1:12, 1Corinthians 10:13,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hey RichFairhurst,

I agreed with what you posted on the flesh Jesus was born in, the same as the first Adam, without the stain of sin which comes the penalty of death. Jesus started just like the first Adam and as the first Adam being pure without sin and death had no hold on him, he could obey or disobey. He chose to disobey; the last Adam chose to obey.

When God made the covenant with Israel, it was a covenant of works, obeying the commandments of God that Adam failed to do. Because of Adam's sin, we are born corrupt and cannot please God apart from grace. For this covenant to be fulfilled a man had to live his entire life without sin, a perfect life. Jesus was not only tempted by Satan He was tempted as you and I, His entire life, Hebrews 2:14-18

If Jesus was incapable of sinning, the fulfillment of the law and the covenant would be a farce.

The other part of your reply involves Luke 16, and the thief next to Jesus, I am sorry I do not agree, my understanding is different.

What you said, "at the last minute to shut the mouth of unbelievers" He did. If we look at John 8:24-28, we see in Matthew 27:54 Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God. Their mouths were shut.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Gigi; I appreciate your response, however; I have understood the retoracle question in Hebrews 1:5 To which of the angels said God at any time, you are my son? This is actually saying God has never called angels sons of God, nor can they become sons of God, as I have previously stated only human beings can become sons of God, it is very clear in Luke 3:38 that Adam was the son of God. Adam was a human being, the genealogy from Adam unto the Lord Jesus, is a lineage of the sons of God, all those listed were sons of God. Now what we do know, is that the apostle Paul stated if a Christian is led by the Holy Ghost, he has matured to become a son of God. I understood your statement about things God has not revealed to us as of yet, this is very true, and we can be content in knowing only what God has revealed, for this reason I can say like Isaiah 28:9-10 a doctrine can only be created when you take line upon line, here a little, precept upon precept, and there a little, usingf this method we can assure ourselves we have arrived at good doctrine. Meaning look for all scriptures that teach sons of God, and see if at any time they refer unto angels, and you will discover what I also discovered, that no scripture refers unto angels as sons of God, only human beings are called sons of God. In conclusion, even Jesus took not upon himself the nature of angels to be called a son of God, but he took upon himself a human body, as the seed of Abraham. Hebrews 2:16

Deuteronomy 9:3, Psalms 106:23, Genesis 19:13,

Matthew 5:17, Hebrews 2:14, Revelation 20:14,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Kinsman redeemer by the humanity of Jesus Christ.

We see the kinsman redeemer in Leviticus 25:25. and we see it carried out in the book of Ruth chapters 1-4.

we see in Revelation 5:1-5. we see a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. and no one was able to open the book but the Lord Jesus. If you notice verse 3 it had to be a "MAN"/Human. And he had to be able. Perfect/Sinless. and he has to be willing. This could only happen by the deity of Christ in his Human form.

(His deity, He cannot sin.) (His humanity, He can take on our sin.) His humanity makes him our kinsman redeemer.

References:

Galatians 4:4-5.

Hebrews 2:9-11.

Luke 4:18:19. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord. "Restitution of all things"

Acts 3:21. (I believe this is yet to come)

I believe the jubilee foreshadowed this.

study Leviticus 25:8-25.

What are we presently redeemed from? Galatians 3:13. The law condemned us and faith in Christ justified us.

Galatians 3:5-13.

However, our bodies have not been redeemed yet, If so there will be no more death.

Also, Romans 8:19-23.

GOD BLESS.

Dr. Lee, According to scripture Jesus came to fulfill, not destroy, and I believe scripture to be correct.

Matthew 5:17-48 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil." "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled." "Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven."

according to scripture, through His death and resurrection, the only thing he destroyed is the devil,

Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"

Indeed Jim. Jesus was known as both the Son of God & the Son of Man - He definitely was a Man in every respect, bar the sin nature.

You wrote: "Jesus was exalted by God. If he was exalted it must mean he was lower in position." And again, yes, He was found in that lower position as a man, which Hebrews 2:9 speaks of: "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man." And in His Coming, "HE TOOK NOT ON HIM the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham." (v16). Why should it be said of Him that He should take on man's flesh (seed of Abraham), when the possibility was there that He take on the nature "like unto the angels"? Apart from the obvious fact that He needed to become a Man for being the sacrifice for our sins, the other matter that is evident in that verse, is that He had the Power to assume any substance or material He wished. So Who then is this Man Jesus? Is He not the One Who also said, "Before Abraham was (or, existed), I am" ( John 8:58)? And He also said, "O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I HAD WITH THEE before the world was." ( John 17:5).

The question therefore remains: where was Jesus before He became a Man & before He "MADE HIMSELF of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." ( Philippians 2:8,9)? If He only began life as a Man of God/God's Appointed, how do we answer these other Scriptures that speak of another Life before His Birth? And His clear claims to a pre-existence in Heaven? Can we force another meaning to any of them?

Hey GiGi,

I did not want to join in on this subject, I have discussed it before, and this is just to suggest something you may look into. You said Jesus' nature as God He could not sin. To fulfill the covenant flesh had to live a perfect life without sin to fulfill and break the curse of sin. If Jesus was incapable of sin, He could not make reconciliation for the sins.

Hebrews 2:16-18 For verily he took not on him the nature of angels; but he took on him the seed of Abraham. 17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people. 18 For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

He faced and was tempted just like us, Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

He lived His life with the same temptations as we do and He overcame and did not sin, He could have but He did not give in. We have a high priest that knows what we are tempted with should motivate us and strength our faith our Savior Jesus did it and He can give us support to endure our walk. He knows what it is like!!!

If I read your post wrong forgive me.

God bless,

RLW

Alex N Not to bust your bubble sir but fetal blood comes thru the umbilical cord from the mother but the

genetic Characteristics is predominately from the Father and Who's Father was Jesus Christ. That's why

he had sinless blood , the part of Him that was Human was the flesh he had uncontaminated blood.

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of the flesh is in the blood. Hebrews 2:14 we are partakers of the flesh and blood

of corruption, he took part the flesh but not the blood contamination no sin. Also of course he had Spirit.

Just something to think about.

DOES GOD LOVE HIS ENEMIES

Luke 6:35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be children of the Highest: for he is KIND TO the unthankful and to THE EVIL.

Colossians 1:20 And, having MADE PEACE through the blood of his cross, by him TO RECONCILE ALL THINGS unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put ALL THINGS in subjection under his feet. For in that HE PUT ALL in subjection under him, he left nothing that is not put under him. But now we see NOT YET all things put under him.

Phillipians 2:11 And that every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

1 Corinthians 15:28 ...and GOD WILL BE ALL IN ALL.

Sister GiGi. I understand that you wisely don't wish to pursue with this thread, but I offer the following for understanding what is seen in the verses Earl has presented.

Psalm 82:6, the verse which Jesus quotes to the Jewish leaders, refers to "gods" as 'Elohim'. This is a word that has several meanings, as it applies to both the true God & to other applications of that word. Elohim is a generic word, used for God ( Genesis 1:1); for pagan gods ( Genesis 31:30, Exodus 12:12); for angels ( Psalm 8:5, cf Hebrews 2:7); for men ( Psalm 82:6); for judges ( Exodus 21:6).

So when we come to John 10:34-36, Jesus is being accused of blasphemy, "thou, being a man, makest thyself God", since Jesus had said to them, "I and my Father are one" & in previous verses. Jesus then goes on to explain that the 'Elohim' of Psalm 82:6, which corresponds to the 'theos' of John 10:34, should actually not be a problem to them as we're all 'gods' in this general meaning of the word, 'Elohim' - we are NOT part of the Deity & NEVER will be, nor of the angelic realm, but certainly of men, rulers & judges (as those so appointed).

The Lord then continues His discourse with the Jews, questioning them, 'that if He is sanctified & sent by God, doing the Works of God, why shouldn't His claim to be the Son of God bother them?' Since we all come under the general word 'theos', if One coming, does the Works of God & brings the Word of God, should He not be rightfully (& more correctly) be called the Son of God? Is Jesus side-stepping the revelation of His actual position as God in the flesh? I see Jesus answering the Jews according to the charge they were laying against Him, that His claim 'making Himself God', was no different to any other claim to it by others. But if their eyes would one day be opened, they would realize that before them was no generic 'Elohim/Theos', but Theos Himself. They were far from reaching that position of understanding, not even understanding Psalm 82:6 & meaning of Elohim.

What you're dealing with is demonic. Unbelievers don't know they've been taken hostage.

Believers know they've been snared. The Holy Spirit is the only one who can break the ties that bind us. We pray and ask for HELP to break the bonds and be freed. We do that by depending upon what Jesus did on the Cross to set us free. He paid in blood. Satan nor demons have AUTHORITY to cross that blood and take a Christian captive. Whom the Son sets free, is free Indeed.

Faith in Christ stands up and takes that authority back! Ephesians 6. The Helmet of Salvation. Start pleading the blood of Jesus when THE TEMPTER shows up. The more scripture you know__the more ammo you have to shoot back at the evil. Read about Jesus 40 day fast after his baptism. "IT IS WRITTEN_____ " you fill in that blank with a verse, like He did. It absolutely works. We're weak often because we fill our minds with television, novels and video games.

FILL UP ON JESUS.

Spirit of Bondage

Manifestations - Fears, Addictions (Drugs, Alcohol, Cigarettes, Food, Etcetera...), Fear of Death, Captivity to Satan, Servant of Corruption, Compulsive Sin, Bondage to Sin

Scriptures: ( Romans 6:16; 7:23; 8:15; 2 Peter 2:19; Hebrews 2:14-15; Luke 8:23; John 8:34; Acts 8:23; Proverbs 5:2; 2 Timothy 2:26)

Roots... "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

"By their fruits you will know all men," Matthew 7:20. According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18 BIND: Spirit of Bondage

LOOSE: Liberty, Spirit of Adoption:

Spirit of God: Pure Spirit, Holiness, Commitment, Insatiable

Ever Increasing Hunger for the Holy Spirit.

You're going to feel silly, because demons are invisible. Eph.6

On YouTube, watch Charles Capps: Authority of the Believer. Take notes. When you get free, tell others how to be free.

Don't be anesthetized by television. Read more New Testament Bible.

** Luke 11:24-26 garnish means Bible and Faith

Job 1:6 - Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

Isaiah 14:12-15 - How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

Ezekiel 28:14 - Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. Ezekiel 28:15 - Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Ezekiel 28:16 - By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.

Revelation 12:9 - And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

John 8:44 - Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Hebrews 2:14 - Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of DEATH, that is, the devil;

LEGALLY, because Jesus (2nd Adam) WON back the Authority FROM SATAN that First Adam lost in the Garden of Eden.

Jesus, by the Holy Spirit, was conceived becoming the SON OF MAN. All God, all HUMAN.

Satan and Demons are NOT HUMAN. They borrow bodies: dogs, frogs and witches who lend their bodies.

CAREFULLY READ EPHESIANS 6

You are very kind Raymond . I know it's an old cliche but it's so true that if we are ever in doubt about what to do , all we need to ask is : what would Jesus do ? All the discussion about this verse and that verse , we drive ourselves and each other crazy some times . Christ is the perfect example , of love and kindness and patience and gentleness .He shows us the way . He is the Way , all we need to do is follow . Much love in Christ .

Sister Sacha, God is Willing, and His Will,will, be done.

Sacha.

Thankyou for the lovely comments. Like you, I have been reading the bible for a very long time, 41 years in fact. I also like to read commentaries because every now and then, I pick up a fact or two that had completely eluded me. If the commentary is not correct or unholy in any way, I rely on the Holy Spirit to give me discernment as to what to do --- usually ditch and forget. I tend not to get so carried away with the Greek & Latin meanings and leave that to other erudites who have nothing better to do. We must all focus on Jesus because he will lead us, now, and at the end.

For myself, I can never get enough of Christ and am constantly wanting to learn. God Bless you.

Keep Looking Up.

You have hit on the very reason I never ever read commentaries . I just keep reading the Bible , everyday for the last 27years . Slowly I connect the dots , it may take me a while but I know for sure that they are my dots , I connected them , I can unconnect them if I find out that I've made a mistake and I'm certain I still have a way to go but I'm convinced by my own studies , of my own beliefs . We are all on the same path , some of us are walking , some trotting ,some sprinting , God willing we shall all reach our destination and see each other there .

Chris,

If I may ask a question, I respect your knowledge of scripture. Jesus is the Son of God the beginning of creation, He is the first and the last, and His name is above all other names that are named and through Him, all was created. After His resurrection, God placed Him above all, until He puts every enemy under His feet, and we know that is death, ( 1 Corinthians 15:25-28).

We do see in ( Romans 8:3) He was sent in the likeness of sinful flesh, but there was not any sin in Him as was the first Adam when God formed him. The way many use the word Godhead, which is the same Greek words for divine, divinity, and divine being, gives the impression that Jesus could not sin. If Jesus was unable to sin what did He defeat? ( Hebrews 2:14-19)

The covenant had to be fulfilled in the flesh that was capable of sinning to be able to break the curse of sin. Jesus coming and what He suffered for us was the will of the Father. We even see in ( Matthew 26:39-44) and ( Luke 22:41-44) being in agony asking the Father if there is another way, but not the Sons' will but the Fathers.

Can't we know and accept the divinity of Jesus, as the Son of God, His name above all names, Him (Jesus) who now holds the authority overall, by God placing Him above all, Jesus is Almighty, ( Revelation 1:8), without saying He is God, which is called a mystery and confuses many? What I see and hear from scripture, there is God the Father, the Son of God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit, all are one in the will of the Father, and we as the servants of Christ, and through Jesus, we do the will of the Father and are one with the Father. Am I wrong?

I do not want to cause strife, this is just a seriously honest question asked out of love.

RLW

14 - 18. The mention of the Angels gives one the impression that all the Angels have fallen when this is not so. The commentary is not clear on the fact that only a third fell from grace and went AWOL.

Someone unfamiliar with their bible could easily assume all Angels were bad eggs.

Brother Earl. You wrote: "Christ was the first man CREATED, and Christ WAS GIVEN a BODY. That body can holds the PRESENCE of God." I would question that statement with the following verses & my remarks:

Colossians 1:15-17: "Who (i.e. Jesus) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist."

Jesus is the "firstborn of every creature" both in rank & birth. The matter of His Birth concerns us here. The word for 'firstborn' in Greek is 'prototokos' = first to give birth to. Unlike, some translators, applying the word 'protokitises' = first created. Jesus was never a created Being - He proceeded from the Father & made flesh for mankind's benefit. Both in His part in the Godhead & in His humanity, He was the "firstborn", for it was only through Him that all things in the heavens & Earth were created & are held together. To use the word 'created' for Jesus' Birth is a misnomer & fallacy, because He was never a created Being.

Then we come to: "that body can hold the PRESENCE of God". Jesus may have laid aside His Glory, even given lower rank than that of angels, for the "suffering of death" ( Hebrews 2:7; Philippians 2:7,8), but He never lost His Divinity & union to the Father. It is a misconception that in His Humanity, Jesus ceased to be Divine. If that were the case, we have a Saviour that became unqualified to pay such a ransom, & you suggest, took on a Body of sinful flesh (i.e. making Him a sinner). Rather, He took on the flesh (body) of man (as was Adam's, pre-fall), bearing upon His Body (carrying) our sins, that He might continue to be Holy & spotless, being the accepted Redeemer for our sins. Sin never entered Him & He never lost His Divinity even while on Earth.

Brother Chris, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY and ONE SPIRIT .....

Christ, (which is, and which was, and which is to come Revelation 1:8); IS, the ONLY ONE BODY. The VESSEL of the ONLY ONE SPIRIT. We (the firstfruits of SPIRIT)( 1 Corinthians 15:23)( Romans 8:23) become the BODY OF CHRIST ( 1 Timothy 6:16)( 1 Corinthians 15:52-55).

The SPIRIT (the source of POWER) provides ALL, the BODY does all the LABOUR. Christ has everything needed at his disposal at all times; but the SPIRIT ONLY releases it (the power)to THE BODY at the given moment it is required. I am not saying that Christ IS NOT GOD, because HE IS; it takes both (faith and labour)( James 2:17) to be GOD, SPIRIT (the SOURCE) and THE BODY (the LABOUR).

Everything is done by SPIRIT (the WORKS of the FATHER) THROUGH (the labour) of the SON.

Christ emptied HIMSELF of the Father's glory ( John 17:5) that he had with him since the beginning, and became sinful flesh, to be destroyed.

He does't know in advance the second coming, because he is given what is required, as it is required ( John 5:19)( John 5:30), just as we are ( John 15:5). We are being created like him A VESSEL OF THE SPIRIT ( Revelation 10:11).

1 Corinthians 15:28 When ALL THINGS shall be SUBJECTED to him, then shall the Son ALSO HIMSELF be SUBJECT to him (the source of power) that put all things under him that GOD (Spirit, Truth, Life) may be ALL IN ALL.

Hebrews 2:8 Thou hast put all things in subjection under his feet. For in that he put ALL in subjection under him, he left nothing that IS NOT PUT under him, But we see NOT YET (but we will see; at the resurrection of the dead) ALL THINGS put under him.

Obadiah 1:21 And SAVIOURS ( John 17:21) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau (the world); and the kingdom shall be the Lord's.

Isaiah 26:9 ....when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Delia In regards to the genetics of Jesus Christ the human side was Mary the mother, the father side was God who created sperm in mary and keep in mind in genetics the dominant characteristics are from the male side in the blood line. That's why Jesus christ had sinless blood I.E. Lamb of god which taketh away sin of the world. In leviticus 17: 11 the life of the flesh is in the blood. In Hebrews 2:14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of the flesh and blood he also himself likewise took part [the flesh] of the same that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death that is the devil. Also in Mathew 27:3+4 Then Judas which had betrayed him when he saw that he was condemned repented himself and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the priests and elders. Verse 4 Saying I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood.

Hi English Sacha Absolutely correct, keep something in mind the seed of the woman was put there by God, that's why Jesus Christ had sinless blood, Leviticus 17:11 the life of the flesh is in the blood. Woman carries eggs not seed, God created seed in Mary. The human side was Mary and correct He was Judean which fulfilled all prophecy. In Hebrews 2:14 For as much then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood He Jesus also himself likewise took part of the same. His blood which was sinless His flesh Human the perfect sacrifice. Its really neat.

Hello Nelvan. From the Bible, we understand that before Jesus came to Earth as a Man, He was in Heaven, within the Godhead, as the Word of God (see John 1:1-4,14). God has chosen to express Himself to us as the Almighty God from Whom proceeds His Word & His Spirit - just one God in His Fulness ( 1 John 5:7).

"Can God die?" No, God is Spirit, He cannot die and none in the spirit realm can die since no physical body is present. One day we will die because our aging bodies must perish. But our spirits which cannot die, will return to God ( Ecclesiastes 12:7).

But Jesus died, because God chose to send forth His Word to us a sinful people. And that Word became flesh ( John 1:14) & He was named Jesus ( Matthew 1:21-25), so that the people not only had God's final Word to them coming in human form ( John 8:42,43), but He also came as a man for the "suffering of death" ( Hebrews 2:9), that He should "taste death for every man". And this, Jesus did for us, so that when we believe on Him, confessing our sins, God will forgive us & accept us, only because He accepted His Son's death as a full & complete payment for our sins ( John 3:16-18).

So God Who is Spirit cannot die, but when He sent His Word to become a man, then yes, God did give us His life for us. But as you may know, the account doesn't end there: Jesus arose from death & the grave, ascended to Heaven in His glorified body & is seated now at God's right Hand where His Testimony is ever present before all in Heaven & Earth ( Hebrews 10:12; 7:25) - God's sacrificial Lamb Who was once slain and is now the only reason for our acceptance by God.

I'm so sorry, it was Hebrews 2:4, not 2:2. That's what I get for trying to memorize scripture. I can be such a dummy sometimes!

Dear knowing our authority,

I just have a few questions for you. First of all, in Luke 10:19, the word hurt is the word injustice, not hurt as in physical harm. In Luke 9:1-2, we see that Jesus called His twelve disciples and gave (them) power and authority, and power to heal the sick. Does it say anywhere else that He gave the same power to all believers?

In Mark 16:17, are the "them" and "they" not the twelve? Because we are told in Hebrews 2:2 that when the apostles went out and preached, that there were signs that followed in order to establish the apostles preaching as the gospel of God. Isn't that what he is saying in Mark 16:17?

Last question is where you say that this power and authority only works if we believe in faith. Are you saying that if a believer commands in faith through Christ, and something does not happen, that the believer is the blame because he/she lacks faith? If so, that is not biblical. There is no such thing as a believer who is born of God's Spirit lacking faith when we fully understand the true definition of faith. No such thing!

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You can see the error in the way they said Joseph is the father: not Step-father, not body father.

This is how the Godhead chose to record this in the Bible.

You are skipping over the ANGEL that was sent to both Joseph and Mary; to Announce the Prophesy that was being fulfilled. Again later to warn Joseph to take Mary and Jesus to Egypt till Herod died. The Angel also prophesied to Elizabeth.

Consider all the available information before you make assumptions concerning THE HOLY BLOODLINE of Jesus Christ.

Insider the Prophesy way way back in Genesis 3:15. "IT" in that verse is the name of Jesus Christ. Romans 16:20, Hebrews 2:14, 1 John 3:8

The Rock we stand on is Jesus, the Word of God.

The rocks we fall over and hurt ourselves on, are lies or misunderstood truth. Always search the prophesies recorded in the Bible.

If your Bible DOES NOT have 'center of each page' reference columns; get one. (Not side or bottom columns). It points you to those prophetic statements.

Mishael

Hebrews 2:4; signs and wonders = The Greek noun (; pronounced "say-MI-on") translated here into "signs" often translates into the noun "miracle" (23 times) in the New Testament. The reader may understand these "signs" as extraordinary events that defy natural laws which indisputably proves the results of supernatural powers.

The Greek meaning of the word translated here into "wonders" (; pronounced "TER-as") literally means anything or any occurrence that is extremely difficult, or even impossible to explain, other than admitting its existence or occurrence happened supernaturally beyond human power.

Attempting to distinguish signs from wonders proves difficult at best. In this context, one attempt may explain signs as literal, tangible, physical proofs which the eyes actually see, and realized by the rest of human senses. By distinction, "wonders" wildly stir human imaginative thought processes within the mind as to their interpretive reasons and purposes, especially in the realm of religion.

Scriptures record the expression "signs and wonders" twenty-nine times (15 times in the Old Testament; 14 times in the New). With few exceptions, the majority of these references link "signs and wonders" directly to GOD as the PERFORMER, or performed indirectly through HIS prophets or apostles whom GOD empowered.

Hebrews 2:4; GOD with divers miracles = The adjective "divers" is an obsolete Old English term which means "many", "various", and/or "different" kinds and types of miracles.

Here, "miracles" translates from the Greek noun root (transliterated "dunamis"; pronounced "DOO-nam-is"), meaning inherent raw strength, ability, and prowess. "Dunamis" derives the English noun "dynamite."

Dunamis also translates into other terms as well in the KJT New Testament: "power" (77 times), "might or mighty" (17 times), "strength" (7 times), and "miracles(s)" (7 times).

From the human perspective, Dunamis power is that wielded by a muscularly strong person. The one who possesses and exercises dunamis power potentially does so with all other types of power.

Relating to GOD, HIS miracles are supernatural, far beyond any human comprehension, much less any explanation from man.