Discuss Hebrews 4 Page 17

1. Dont look up things on Wikipedia
2. The Genesis Account is not figurative or an Allegory
3. God Did not Create Anything on the Seventh day including Adam ( Genesis 2:1-3)
4.Verse 4 Brings us back to the day or Period (days 1 - 6 , yes all these "days" are refered to one "day" or period)when Jehovah creative works were being completed.
5.How long were these creative days? the Bible does not say. Were they literal 24 hours ? Theres no basis for arbitrarily stating that each day was 24 hours but his seventh day of rest from creative works continued into Pauls day( Hebrews 4:3-6) if not into our day .

The Holy Ghost is the rest! Jesus is the Holy Ghost! Jesus said I will come back unto u. When u rec the baptisim of His spirit u rec the rest..

"...to kill with sword..." ( Revelation 6:8)

I find it interesting that the word "sword" here is the same word used for sword in Revelation 1:16; Revelation 2:12,16; Revelation 19:15; and Revelation 19:21. ([Greek #4501 - in a James Strong concordance [cover and pages missing])

In other usages, #3162 is used for sword.

The #4501 is always referencing Jesus and the Word of God; whereas, #3162 seems to reference a physical sword.

Once in Hebrews 4:12, the #3162 is used saying the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword... So the word of God is being contrasted with a physical sword.
Also, in Ephesians 6:17 the #3162 is used; but, the sword we are told to take (the sword of the Spirit) is the Word of God.

I find it interesting that the sword in Revelation 6:8 is #4501.

As a Seventh-day Adventist Hebrews speaks loud and clear to me. It reminds me that Jesus who created mankind gave them two blessings to take with them from Eden after sin. Marriage and the Sabbath (the day of rest). Hebrews tells me that when Jesus was on the earth that he did not change nor give another day of rest to the gentiles that was different to the children of Israel, If He had then he would have spoken of another day. I do know that one can not come into the day of rest with out faith in God, because without faith in God then we are trying too keep the Sabbath by our own power and that is "works" but if we have faith and believe Gods word then the Lord can bring us into His rest doing those things that honor Him and not ourselves. We will do God works and not our own, we will stand apart from the secular world and help other to know God by our example. We can not force anyone to take the Sabbath but we can share the seeds of faith and then Gods Spirit will do the rest. God bless my brothers and sisters in faith.

Isaiah,1:18 "Come now let us reason together saith
the Lord." If we want to know the reason, God says
"Let's get together and talk it over." We may not
like what He reveals, but the "Kingdom of God" is
not a democracy,we do not get to pick and choose.
In asking "What is the reason why each and every
time we approach the 'Throne of Grace' we must
qualify our position, relative to that approach, with the "Blood of Jesus?" If we really want to
know the truth the "Spirit of truth" will teach
us. Prayerfully study the book of Hebrews and you
will find the "Blood" brings us into the "Throne
Room," gains audience with the "Father,"and "finds
help in time of need." Why the "Blood?" Well
the subject will not lend itself to a concise
explanation. Let us simply say that's the way it is. It's God's creation; we live by his rules.

Entering into God's rest is possible because the provision had been made. All we need to do is believe the word of God. He is more than able.

If we really associate the calling of the rest, and attribute this only to the dire condition we face, then are we saying that God had the same condition when He created everything as this is referenced to the rest that God had on the seventh Day. Therefore my undestanding through the Holy Spirit is that God's comandment still stand, and it is through Jesus Christ that we will enter that rest, and also keeping His commandments as they are, and not attempt to change and make them suit our lifestiles.

I see Wesley postpones the believer's rest till the future, whereas most translations place it in past tense i.e. BEFORE entering the available rest that God has now provided in Jesus . There are numerous new testament Bible references stating that we cannot save ourselves by trying to do merrit works. Romans 8:1-4. It was during their lifetime that Joshua's people did not enter rest because of unbelief, (vs. 5-9). We are told to make every effort to enter God's rest by trusting in Jesus now for salvation. Jesus said "Come unto me all ye that labor and are heavy laden and I will give you rest. It seems obvious,that to enter His rest here and now that we must cease trusting in our own merrit works.

I think this is a very power chapter.It is letting us know that we can live any old way of life and think that we will be pleasing unto GOD.It also lets us know that GOD knows all of our intentions and there is nothing that we can do intentionally or unintentionally that GOD doesn't know about. WOW alot of us better get in line with the word of GOD.

It is a wonderfult thing to come to the end of yourself and after all that you can do, you can come to Jesus and say I am tired, Lord I turn it over to you . Thank you Lord

IN verse 16 Paul says -that we may find grace; was or is the grace given to us who believe once and for all such that our responsibility is to look out for it and find it as we continue to interact with the word of God? thank you for replying me.

to comment on jesse comment just be very carful that your gift is from the SPIRIT of GOD if it dont line up with the word its not from GOD but the devil test the gift by the mirror of GOD's Word

Mathew Henry is channeling a priest from the mid 1800's. I have great insight for knowing when there is a spirit involved. And when I read the commentary I saw who was saying it through him. It's a gift I had since I was young, to be able to see past lives.

My FAVORITE scripture!!!

I believe the Bible is true and is inspired by God. It is for our edification and I feel I fall very short of what God wants me to be. Praise be to God and Glory to his name.