Here are scripture links about Jesus CHRIST ministry, the Bible however indicates HIS open ministry longer than a year on earth.
Luke 3:23, people take that scripture & add holidays & other events to draw a timeline.
It doesn't actually say that Jesus CHRIST ministry is/was limited to just those years of HIS open ministry because it's everlasting. Luke 1, John 1:1-5, Luke 2:42-50, John 8:58, 1Corinthians 15:47-58, Ephesians 3:9-11, Titus 3:7, John 3:15, Hebrews 5:9, Jude 1:21, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:21, John 17:3, 2Timothy 2:10, 2Corinthians 5:1, 1John 5:11, John 10:28, 1John 5:20,
(3) Gentiles were not required, but had the privilege of, joining the Hebrew family via the proselytization process (cf. Acts 2:10; 13:16). Additionally, there were many instructions in Moses' law designed to benefit the "strangers" (Gentiles) who came among Israelite people ( Leviticus 19:33ff).
(4) The Lord sent Jonah to the Gentiles of Nineveh ( Jonah 3:1). Archer said that the theme of the book of Jonah "is that God's mercy and compassion extend even to the heathen nations on condition of their repentance" (1964, 295). Jonah is sometimes called "the first apostle to the Gentiles."
(5) Four Gentile women were woven into the genealogical fabric of the Messiah-Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheba-in both legal and biological senses ( Matthew 1:5-6; Luke 3:31-32).
(6) In addition, the prophets clearly revealed Jehovah's redemptive concern for the Gentiles, who were to be grafted into the New Testament church on an equal basis with the Jews ( Genesis 17:4; 22:18; Psalms 2:8; Isaiah 42:1, 6; 49:6; cf. Romans 11:1ff; Galatians 3:28; Ephesians 2:11ff).
Conclusion
There always has been a way for honest people to be right with their Creator-if they seek after him and choose to please him ( Acts 17:27ff). God so loved the entire world and gave his Son as a potential redeeming sacrifice for all who avail themselves of his gift ( John 3:16). He is the loving benefactor to everyone who submits to his will in faithful obedience ( 1 Timothy 2:4; Hebrews 5:8-9; cf. 2 Peter 3:9).
Article by Wayne Jackson.
I share this information for one to go over. I haven't had the time to do no more than glance over the beginning being I'm out town on business again.
Hopefully some others can share on this great question you asked.
Lina, may God's favour continue to shine upon you.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he SUFFERED.
We bear the same cross and walk the same path to Calvary.
1 Corinthians 15:31 ...We DIE daily..
Romans 6:6 ...our old man was crucified with him .....
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nonetheless I LIVE, yet not I, but Christ LIVETH IN ME: and the life I now live IN THE FLESH I live by the FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ...CHRIST IN US .....
All is well, thank you so much for asking. That means a lot to me. I have been away from here for a bit. I took a trip to Flagstaff AZ for a Bluegrass music festival. I play guitar, mandolin, banjo, dobro, and a little bit of fiddle too (Not so good on the fiddle, but learning, just enough to get by)! I had a lot of fun getting together with some other musicians and doing a little "jamming." Bluegrass Gospel is my favorite music!
Anyway, I am taking another 3-week trip to see my grandkids. I'll probably be in and out of here as time permits. But all is well. Thanks again for checking up on me. No matter the circumstance, whether good or bad, the Lord is good. God Bless!!!
Hebrews 4:11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
"This is A CALL BEFORE HAND, not a call afterwards.". IT SAYS ENTER INTO HIS REST "LEST" YOU FALL. and that rest is to rest from your works, The only way you can fall is unbelief, and if you have unbelief you never entered in. The unbelief is NOT taking stock in HIS REST AND OUR REST HE HAS GIVEN US MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSES.
If we refuses the finish work on the cross and insist in a works based salvation plan you have not joined him in his rest, and may fall after the same example of unbelief, ( Disbelieving in the rest we have when joined to Christ. )
Hebrews 4:10. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
They have to make Jesus their Lord and Savior. He sheds his blood over our sins. They must have their names RECORDED IN THE BOOK OF LIFE. Priority number one.
Revelation 20:12 - And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 3:5 - He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Revelation 21:27 - And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the BOOK OF LIFE was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 3:1-6 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. (Read More...)
Revelation 20:11-15 - And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Luke 10:20 - Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. (The Book of Life)
Exodus 32:33 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
Psalms 69:28 - Let them be blotted out of the book of the living (Life) and not be written with the righteous.
Malachi 3:16 - Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
If the person is a non-believer and has already made up their mind and rejected the gospel message shared with them, you are under no obligation to explain anything to them. What we have is very precious. We have Christ. If a person does not want to hear the good news, then so be it. We are not to cast our pearls before the swine. Here's something that every believer should realize. We have got something very, very, precious. We don't have to prove anything to anybody. We are not under any pressure to meet any quota.
Now, if the person is a believer, born of God's Spirit, and they believe they can lose their salvation, something you might ask them is who are they trusting in for their salvation. Are they trusting in Christ who has saved them, sealed them with His Spirit until the day of redemption, and who has promised He will never leave them? Or, are they trusting in themselves to keep themselves saved? It's better to trust in the one who has saved us, the one who is keeping us saved by His own power, and the one who said He will never leave us nor forsake us!
Hebrews 5:9 is speaking about the perfection of Christ. It says, "and being made perfect (Telios/Complete), He became the author of eternal salvation unto all those who obey Him."
A person must surrender their life to Christ in order to be saved. The obedience comes after salvation, after making Jesus Christ the Lord over your life. The flesh will never submit or be obedient to the Lord. It is His Spirit that He gives us, that dwells in us, and persuades us to be obedient to Him. Can a person be disobedient after they are saved? Yes, they can. However the Lord will always deal with a believer who chooses to be disobedient. For those He loves, those who belong to Him, He disciplines, He chastens. And sometimes that discipline can be pretty harsh.
The Lord requires obedience. He requires us to be faithful to Him. But if we slip up and become disobedient, our salvation remains. Jesus Christ purchased our salvation at the cross. He shed His blood to redeem us from sin. His sacrifice was made perfect (Telion). It was a complete and perfect sacrifice.
The completion: It is finished. He has done it all!
Hebrews 4:11 Makes it sound like one is in danger of losing salvation yet other scripture leads one to believe salvation can not be taken away! How do I explain this to unbeliever if question comes up?
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the Truth;
9 We know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
8 Whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away - Charity never faileth.
Charity mnifests itself where is manifest the Truth, Charity rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the Truth.
Every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5:v.12-13
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous,ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. 1John 2:v.28-29
Believing in the Jesus that died for sins - In Reply - 3 years ago
Paul made it crystal clear in chapter 1 that the Christians in Corinth would stand guiltless before God on the day of the Lord. Their saving faith in Christ had been affirmed by the fact that they had received gifts from the Holy Spirit. These Corinthians are undoubtedly Christians.
Now, though, Paul says the fact that they are saved does not mean he can call them spiritual people. They are not living as spiritual people. They are still living as if they were of the flesh. Paul compares them to a person stuck in infancy, who should have matured enough by now to be ready for the solid food of deeper Christian teaching. Instead, they're still on a newborn's all-milk diet. This is not an entirely unique problem, as the writer of Hebrews chastised his readers for a similar weakness ( Hebrews 5:11-14). Instead of living in the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit and according to God's wisdom about spiritual things, the Corinthian Christians are still behaving as if they were mere, unspiritual human beings ( 1 Corinthians 3:1-2).
We are the temple of God the Holy Spirit. When we are born again, he comes to indwell in our hearts and He is Our Teacher; if we will ask Him to teach us? It requires Bible study, praying, and practicing quietness so we can hear the Holy Spirit's still small voice.
He has milk, manna and meat. Scripture says to desire the pure milk. A believer that thinks they don't actually have to read the Bible, or attend church to learn: are carnal, live for fleshly pleasures: video games, beer parties, etc.
Jesus is not fire insurance against hell. He paid it ALL on the Cross and died for our personal sin debts. Watch The video, The Passion of the Christ, directed by Mel Gibson.
All this gets sorted out: Matthew 25:32-46 by Jesus Christ. His Bema Seat Judgment occurs before New Jerusalem. For rewards, or no rewards.
Heb. 5:8 "the things which HE suffered" = Verse seven provides the answer as to what CHRIST "suffered". Translated from the Greek verb root (pronounced "PAS-kho"), the word "suffered" speaks of CHRIST experiencing and enduring physical and mental pain, hardship, and need. The English language derives the noun "passion" from the Greek verb "pascho".
While John 11:35 records the only occurrence of JESUS CHRIST shedding tears as HE wept at Lazarus' grave, Luke 22:44 records HIS Gethsemane "agony" so severe that "HIS sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground."
So the expression here in Hebrews (5:7), "with strong crying and tears" bears out the fact of CHRIST's "strong" emotional outbursts in Gethsemane before HE "suffered" death.
Here, the Greek word translated "strong" speaks of an emotional upheaval so intense that the sufferer is unable to resist its eruption into gut-wrenching weeping and sobbing.
Such was the manner of JESUS CHRIST's "prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto HIM".
CHRIST's "suffering", and because HIS Heavenly FATHER was "able to save HIM from death", qualifies CHRIST as the believer's singular and sole "HIGH PRIEST" ( Heb. 5:5) in the realm of Salvation.
Heb. 5:7 = This verse speaks specifically of CHRIST's emotional "agony" in the Garden of Gethsemane. HE prayed to HIS FATHER immediately before HIS arrest, trials, and crucifixion (cp. Mt.26:37-38; Mk. 14:33-34; Lu. 22:42-44).
While in Matthew 6:9-15 LORD JESUS CHRIST provided instruction on the "manner" of verbal praying, and of that for which believers must pray, here ( Heb. 5:7), The LORD exemplary demonstrated the spiritual attitude when praying required for GOD The FATHER to "hear" and accept. Following CHRIST's example, the one praying must
1st, realize his extreme and total physical weakness and helpless impotence prohibiting him from controlling his personal condition and his environmental situation: "WHO in the days of HIS flesh, ".
2nd, actually realize the dreadful situation requires prayer (cp. Mt. 17:21; Mk. 9:29), prompting the petitioner to "boldly" ( Heb. 4:16) and verbally communicate the prayer: "when HE had offered up prayers and supplications unto HIM".
3rd, pray deliberately and purposefully from the heart: "with strong crying and tears".
Note, often such extreme circumstances defy putting such prayers into understandable and meaningful verbal expressions. In such cases GOD does not leave HIS beloved children to their own devices, but rather HE supernaturally accompanies the petitioner ( Rom. 8:26):
"Likewise The SPIRIT also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but The SPIRIT itself maketh Intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered."
4th, pray to The Only ONE that can and will "hear" and respond to the pitiful cries of the petitioner: "unto HIM (GOD The FATHER) that was able to save".
Contrast this great reality with idolators' idols ( Ps. 115:4 & 6; 135:17):
"Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have ears, but they hear not."
5th, pray with the sole and only spiritual attitude acceptable to GOD: "in that HE feared."
You've posted a lot of scripture, unfortunately many of the same scripture.
some refers to those were enlightened but not saved, "as many of us today but never coming to Christ for salvation " And some saved but haven't matured as you see here.
" Hebrews 5:12-14 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."
And we see both groups in the verses you stated.
But Like a said and still say it's not talking about SALVATION in Romans 6.
Another verse you keep posting is 2 Peter 2:20 to make a point of losing salvation from a group that never had it. if you want to consider that verse let's start from verse 1.
God Bless you Lauren for your kind reply. It truly gives me joy to help anyone with the Holy Scriptures if I am able. All glory to the Lord as the little ability I have is a Blessing from Him.
Just a couple verses to note for you with Salvation of the Lord:
Jonah 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.
Luke 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
Hebrews 5:7-9 Who in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared;
Though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered;
And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him;
2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
Israel's disobedience never derailed God's plans, You'll find your answers in Numbers ch 31, "Whole chapter " And story also in the story of Issac and Ishmael, and Jacob and Essau.
And what actually what makes a Jew " a Jew? " You know Ruth was a Moabite who is in the Grandmother of King David and so is Rahab the Harlot.
That's not a problem for God, like John the baptist told the Pharisees in
Matthew 3:9.
""And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.""
How does the Jewish race exist if throughout their journey in the wilderness [desert] Israel fought against many tribes and took in the maidens as wives?
S Spencer on Hebrews Ch 6 on Matthew 20 - 3 years ago
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Lets revisit the text starting from-
Hebrews 5:11-14. Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Paul is urging them towards maturity.
Now lets take up Hebrews 6:7-9.
For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
Verse 8: But that which ""beareth thorns and briers"" is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
THE KEY IS IN VERSE 9.
Verse 9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and ( things that accompany salvation,) though we thus speak. WHAT ACCOMPANIES SALVATION? FRUIT AND REWARDS.
Verse 8 parallels with
Isaiah 5:6-7. And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.
For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.
John 3:13: This chapter finds Jesus talking with Nicodemus about heavenly/spiritual things, which sadly, Nicodemus was ignorant of. He asks in verse 9, "How can these things be?", or in other words, 'Jesus, you're telling me strange things which I find impossible to accept & believe in'. So Jesus goes on to tell him that it's not only heavenly things but also earthly things that he doesn't understand. Then verse 13 refers to Jesus being the only one that is qualified to bring 'that heavenly light' to people as He was the one to come down from Heaven. And none else filled this position or was qualified, as not even Elijah or Enoch or even the OT saints have gone into Heaven & come back to Earth to reveal such Divine insights.
Psalm 2:7: This is one of many Messianic Psalms which have a reference to the coming Messiah (see also Psalms 8, 16, 22, 34, 35, 40, etc.). David would not have had full knowledge of what God had put on his heart to write, except that God did have a plan, that through David there would be in the future an everlasting kingdom ( 2 Samuel 7:12,13). Whether David felt there was some reference to him in Psalm 2:7, is not known, but he knew ultimately that these words did not apply only to Him but to Another, as we read the whole Psalm. Even the NT writers referred to it: Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5, Hebrews 5:5, indicating that they too saw Psalm 2:7 as ultimately referring to the Messiah. So, you're correct that it is God speaking to (or, inspiring) David to write the Psalm, but many Psalms & other OT writings are prophetical pointing to Jesus, as even Jesus Himself looked back at those prophecies that spoke of Him & urged others to do so ( John 5:39).
I don't understand why people want to condemn others who believe in God a certain way. We all worship the same God. There is only one true God and only one way to God. Through His Son Jesus Christ. Who was a free gift from our Father to pay for our sins. Having faith and giving yourself to Jesus Christ is the most important thing.
There is only one God our Father. Should we not honor the Son as we honor the Father? Like we're told. Does not Jesus Christ have all the power and authority of the Father? Given to Him by the Father. I myself don't believe Jesus Christ is God the Father but that the Father is in Him and He in the Father. I also believe in the deity of Christ that He was with the Father before He came to earth. Like He says. Can I explain all this? No. That's what I believe and it all came to me through the Holy Bible.
A couple verses showing God the Father is not Jesus Christ:
Matthew 26:39 And He went a little further, and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
John 8:17-18, 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18 I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.
Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, today have I begotten thee.
Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us
( 2 Peter 1:17-18, 17 For He received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to Him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with Him in the holy mount.
Why can't some believe in two, plus the Holy Ghost, which is three in this new covenant? One God.
Alex, It is you who has taken the word of God out of context, so as to further the lie you teach. Saved by the fire, regardless of what a person believes, is not by faith in Christ to have paid for sins. Jesus did say, "it is finished", that is, the work of salvation which he finished on the cross. "Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God." Hebrews 12:2 "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;" Hebrews 5:9, not ALL, as you say, will enter eternity as saved. Alex, you diminish the sacrifice of Jesus.
While I address this reply to Alex, I know he will not hear. But this forum is open to many others who come here with an intent to hear and see God's word. It is no surprise that agents of Satan will be here to slander God's word. They operate as the fowls following the sower, to take away the seed of truth. Luke 8:12
I agree with you my brother. By your response, I know that you are genuine..back to the "Parable of the sower" the right seed planted in the wrong ground never produces anything and as such will not yield any fruit. Hearts must be good ground and receptive to receive the benefit of the word. Jesus taught using real life examples to teach...for example he said over and over, "The Kingdom of Heaven is like." I believe that one of the ways that we can show that Jesus is also a Father is to look at our own family relationships, beginning with Adam, the father of Seth, the father of Noah, the father of Shem....the father of Terah, the father of Abraham, the father of Isacc, the father of Israel. The title of father is being handed down through generations even in our own families. Christ is Father to us who believe in him that he is not just the Son but has also inherited the title of Father...we are called his little children because we are begotten of him through his blood through the lineage of King David who is our father too. Jesus is Son of God and Son of Man.
Another example is that God called the first man and woman Adam which means earth ( Gen 5:3). Adam (male) was the one to name Adam his wife (female) eve. Because they are our foreparents all of humanity is called "earth"...besides read John 10:34-38 and Psalm 82:1-6. Those who are born of God the Psalmist says are gods. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" ( John 10:30-33; Deuteronomy 6:4; Philippians 2:6).
Jesus also called the church his bride so we are also one with him.
Any title of God is inherited by Christ who is the begotten of the Father ( Psalm 2:7; Hebrews 5:5). Our children refer to us as father and mother although we ourselves call out parents the same...I hope this helps.
Why do preachers persist in telling Gentile Congregations that everything that Jesus taught and said while He was on earth was directed to them? It clearly was not because He was talking to Jews under the law the whole time. No Gentile was allowed in to a synagogue. He was talking to Jews when he gave the Disciples the great commission. He told the disciples Matt.10:5-6, not to go to the Gentiles. They were also called dogs by him as well as all Jews, (Ref. the caananite woman who asked for help). People are going to Hell because they are not being told the truth. The Apostle Paul called by Jesus. Plainly stated, that Gospel we are saved by is the one in 1Cor. 15:1-4 and stated in Galatians Ch. 1, that anybody that preached any other, Let him be accursed and that he got it by revelation from Jesus Himself. Jesus never preached any gospel but the Gospel of the Kingdom. He could not, because He had not been crucified yet. I know a lot of what He said was for our learning as Paul said, but He came here to fulfill the covenant promises , to be the King of the Jews AND to turn them into a nation of priests, who would then take salvation to the Gentiles. This failed because of the unbelief of his own people. Paul also stated in the bible that we, Jew and Gentile, would be judged by the righteous judge, according to his gospel, which was the Gospel of Grace ( 1Cor. 15:1-4). Why aren't people being told that? Again, people are filling pews every Sunday, thinking they are saved and are going to hell because they have not been told the truth. This is ALL in the book and preachers are not preaching it... WHY??? Don't tell me that the Apostle Paul has no standing because He was called by Jesus himself and wrote half the New Testament AFTER he spent three years in Arabia probably on Mount Sinai, getting a three year Revelation from Jesus, the same as the Disciples got from Him in person when He preached the Gospel of the Kingdom.
1Samuel 2:30-36, 1Samuel 3:13-14, 1Samuel 4:10-22.
However blessing when we obey Deuteronomy 11:27, Deuteronomy 30:15-20, Jeremiah 7:23, Hebrews 5:9,
Luke 3:23, people take that scripture & add holidays & other events to draw a timeline.
It doesn't actually say that Jesus CHRIST ministry is/was limited to just those years of HIS open ministry because it's everlasting. Luke 1, John 1:1-5, Luke 2:42-50, John 8:58, 1Corinthians 15:47-58, Ephesians 3:9-11, Titus 3:7, John 3:15, Hebrews 5:9, Jude 1:21, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:21, John 17:3, 2Timothy 2:10, 2Corinthians 5:1, 1John 5:11, John 10:28, 1John 5:20,
Hopefully these are helpful
Hopefully these are helpful
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(3) Gentiles were not required, but had the privilege of, joining the Hebrew family via the proselytization process (cf. Acts 2:10; 13:16). Additionally, there were many instructions in Moses' law designed to benefit the "strangers" (Gentiles) who came among Israelite people ( Leviticus 19:33ff).
(4) The Lord sent Jonah to the Gentiles of Nineveh ( Jonah 3:1). Archer said that the theme of the book of Jonah "is that God's mercy and compassion extend even to the heathen nations on condition of their repentance" (1964, 295). Jonah is sometimes called "the first apostle to the Gentiles."
(5) Four Gentile women were woven into the genealogical fabric of the Messiah-Tamar, Rahab, Ruth, and Bathsheba-in both legal and biological senses ( Matthew 1:5-6; Luke 3:31-32).
(6) In addition, the prophets clearly revealed Jehovah's redemptive concern for the Gentiles, who were to be grafted into the New Testament church on an equal basis with the Jews ( Genesis 17:4; 22:18; Psalms 2:8; Isaiah 42:1, 6; 49:6; cf. Romans 11:1ff; Galatians 3:28; Ephesians 2:11ff).
Conclusion
There always has been a way for honest people to be right with their Creator-if they seek after him and choose to please him ( Acts 17:27ff). God so loved the entire world and gave his Son as a potential redeeming sacrifice for all who avail themselves of his gift ( John 3:16). He is the loving benefactor to everyone who submits to his will in faithful obedience ( 1 Timothy 2:4; Hebrews 5:8-9; cf. 2 Peter 3:9).
Article by Wayne Jackson.
I share this information for one to go over. I haven't had the time to do no more than glance over the beginning being I'm out town on business again.
Hopefully some others can share on this great question you asked.
God bless.
Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a son, yet he learned obedience by the things which he SUFFERED.
We bear the same cross and walk the same path to Calvary.
1 Corinthians 15:31 ...We DIE daily..
Romans 6:6 ...our old man was crucified with him .....
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nonetheless I LIVE, yet not I, but Christ LIVETH IN ME: and the life I now live IN THE FLESH I live by the FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD, who loved me and gave himself for me.
Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery ...CHRIST IN US .....
GBU
You seem to have a lot of talent!!
I'm pretty good at snapping my fingers and clapping my also. Enjoy yourself, just checking on you.
God bless.
All is well, thank you so much for asking. That means a lot to me. I have been away from here for a bit. I took a trip to Flagstaff AZ for a Bluegrass music festival. I play guitar, mandolin, banjo, dobro, and a little bit of fiddle too (Not so good on the fiddle, but learning, just enough to get by)! I had a lot of fun getting together with some other musicians and doing a little "jamming." Bluegrass Gospel is my favorite music!
Anyway, I am taking another 3-week trip to see my grandkids. I'll probably be in and out of here as time permits. But all is well. Thanks again for checking up on me. No matter the circumstance, whether good or bad, the Lord is good. God Bless!!!
I Hope all is well.
God bless
I would like to add to what Brother Jesse shared,
Hebrews 4:11. Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
"This is A CALL BEFORE HAND, not a call afterwards.". IT SAYS ENTER INTO HIS REST "LEST" YOU FALL. and that rest is to rest from your works, The only way you can fall is unbelief, and if you have unbelief you never entered in. The unbelief is NOT taking stock in HIS REST AND OUR REST HE HAS GIVEN US MENTIONED IN THE PREVIOUS VERSES.
If we refuses the finish work on the cross and insist in a works based salvation plan you have not joined him in his rest, and may fall after the same example of unbelief, ( Disbelieving in the rest we have when joined to Christ. )
Hebrews 4:10. For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
God bless.
Revelation 20:12 - And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
Revelation 3:5 - He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Revelation 21:27 - And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie: but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.
Revelation 20:15 - And whosoever was not found written in the BOOK OF LIFE was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 3:1-6 - And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead. (Read More...)
Revelation 20:11-15 - And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.
Luke 10:20 - Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your names are written in heaven. (The Book of Life)
Exodus 32:33 - And the LORD said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book.
Psalms 69:28 - Let them be blotted out of the book of the living (Life) and not be written with the righteous.
Malachi 3:16 - Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
If the person is a non-believer and has already made up their mind and rejected the gospel message shared with them, you are under no obligation to explain anything to them. What we have is very precious. We have Christ. If a person does not want to hear the good news, then so be it. We are not to cast our pearls before the swine. Here's something that every believer should realize. We have got something very, very, precious. We don't have to prove anything to anybody. We are not under any pressure to meet any quota.
Now, if the person is a believer, born of God's Spirit, and they believe they can lose their salvation, something you might ask them is who are they trusting in for their salvation. Are they trusting in Christ who has saved them, sealed them with His Spirit until the day of redemption, and who has promised He will never leave them? Or, are they trusting in themselves to keep themselves saved? It's better to trust in the one who has saved us, the one who is keeping us saved by His own power, and the one who said He will never leave us nor forsake us!
Hebrews 5:9 is speaking about the perfection of Christ. It says, "and being made perfect (Telios/Complete), He became the author of eternal salvation unto all those who obey Him."
A person must surrender their life to Christ in order to be saved. The obedience comes after salvation, after making Jesus Christ the Lord over your life. The flesh will never submit or be obedient to the Lord. It is His Spirit that He gives us, that dwells in us, and persuades us to be obedient to Him. Can a person be disobedient after they are saved? Yes, they can. However the Lord will always deal with a believer who chooses to be disobedient. For those He loves, those who belong to Him, He disciplines, He chastens. And sometimes that discipline can be pretty harsh.
The Lord requires obedience. He requires us to be faithful to Him. But if we slip up and become disobedient, our salvation remains. Jesus Christ purchased our salvation at the cross. He shed His blood to redeem us from sin. His sacrifice was made perfect (Telion). It was a complete and perfect sacrifice.
The completion: It is finished. He has done it all!
About 1 Corinthians 13:v.6&
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the Truth;
9 We know in part, and we prophesy in part.
10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.
8 Whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away - Charity never faileth.
Charity mnifests itself where is manifest the Truth, Charity rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the Truth.
Every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Hebrews 5:v.12-13
And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. If ye know that he is righteous,ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. 1John 2:v.28-29
Now, though, Paul says the fact that they are saved does not mean he can call them spiritual people. They are not living as spiritual people. They are still living as if they were of the flesh. Paul compares them to a person stuck in infancy, who should have matured enough by now to be ready for the solid food of deeper Christian teaching. Instead, they're still on a newborn's all-milk diet. This is not an entirely unique problem, as the writer of Hebrews chastised his readers for a similar weakness ( Hebrews 5:11-14). Instead of living in the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit and according to God's wisdom about spiritual things, the Corinthian Christians are still behaving as if they were mere, unspiritual human beings ( 1 Corinthians 3:1-2).
We are the temple of God the Holy Spirit. When we are born again, he comes to indwell in our hearts and He is Our Teacher; if we will ask Him to teach us? It requires Bible study, praying, and practicing quietness so we can hear the Holy Spirit's still small voice.
He has milk, manna and meat. Scripture says to desire the pure milk. A believer that thinks they don't actually have to read the Bible, or attend church to learn: are carnal, live for fleshly pleasures: video games, beer parties, etc.
Jesus is not fire insurance against hell. He paid it ALL on the Cross and died for our personal sin debts. Watch The video, The Passion of the Christ, directed by Mel Gibson.
All this gets sorted out: Matthew 25:32-46 by Jesus Christ. His Bema Seat Judgment occurs before New Jerusalem. For rewards, or no rewards.
Live for Jesus every day.
Mishael
While John 11:35 records the only occurrence of JESUS CHRIST shedding tears as HE wept at Lazarus' grave, Luke 22:44 records HIS Gethsemane "agony" so severe that "HIS sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground."
So the expression here in Hebrews (5:7), "with strong crying and tears" bears out the fact of CHRIST's "strong" emotional outbursts in Gethsemane before HE "suffered" death.
Here, the Greek word translated "strong" speaks of an emotional upheaval so intense that the sufferer is unable to resist its eruption into gut-wrenching weeping and sobbing.
Such was the manner of JESUS CHRIST's "prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto HIM".
CHRIST's "suffering", and because HIS Heavenly FATHER was "able to save HIM from death", qualifies CHRIST as the believer's singular and sole "HIGH PRIEST" ( Heb. 5:5) in the realm of Salvation.
While in Matthew 6:9-15 LORD JESUS CHRIST provided instruction on the "manner" of verbal praying, and of that for which believers must pray, here ( Heb. 5:7), The LORD exemplary demonstrated the spiritual attitude when praying required for GOD The FATHER to "hear" and accept. Following CHRIST's example, the one praying must
1st, realize his extreme and total physical weakness and helpless impotence prohibiting him from controlling his personal condition and his environmental situation: "WHO in the days of HIS flesh, ".
2nd, actually realize the dreadful situation requires prayer (cp. Mt. 17:21; Mk. 9:29), prompting the petitioner to "boldly" ( Heb. 4:16) and verbally communicate the prayer: "when HE had offered up prayers and supplications unto HIM".
3rd, pray deliberately and purposefully from the heart: "with strong crying and tears".
Note, often such extreme circumstances defy putting such prayers into understandable and meaningful verbal expressions. In such cases GOD does not leave HIS beloved children to their own devices, but rather HE supernaturally accompanies the petitioner ( Rom. 8:26):
"Likewise The SPIRIT also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but The SPIRIT itself maketh Intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered."
4th, pray to The Only ONE that can and will "hear" and respond to the pitiful cries of the petitioner: "unto HIM (GOD The FATHER) that was able to save".
Contrast this great reality with idolators' idols ( Ps. 115:4 & 6; 135:17):
"Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men's hands. They have ears, but they hear not."
5th, pray with the sole and only spiritual attitude acceptable to GOD: "in that HE feared."
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You've posted a lot of scripture, unfortunately many of the same scripture.
some refers to those were enlightened but not saved, "as many of us today but never coming to Christ for salvation " And some saved but haven't matured as you see here.
" Hebrews 5:12-14 For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."
And we see both groups in the verses you stated.
But Like a said and still say it's not talking about SALVATION in Romans 6.
Another verse you keep posting is 2 Peter 2:20 to make a point of losing salvation from a group that never had it. if you want to consider that verse let's start from verse 1.
Read on please. Thanks
Just a couple verses to note for you with Salvation of the Lord:
Jonah 2:9 But I will sacrifice unto thee with the voice of thanksgiving; I will pay that that I have vowed. Salvation is of the LORD.
Luke 3:6 And all flesh shall see the salvation of God.
Acts 28:28 Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
Hebrews 5:7-9 Who in the days of His flesh, when He had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto Him that was able to save Him from death, and was heard in that He feared;
Though He were a Son, yet learned He obedience by the things which He suffered;
And being made perfect, He became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey Him;
2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
Have a wonderful Blessed day Lauren.
Israel's disobedience never derailed God's plans, You'll find your answers in Numbers ch 31, "Whole chapter " And story also in the story of Issac and Ishmael, and Jacob and Essau.
And what actually what makes a Jew " a Jew? " You know Ruth was a Moabite who is in the Grandmother of King David and so is Rahab the Harlot.
That's not a problem for God, like John the baptist told the Pharisees in
Matthew 3:9.
""And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.""
I hope that helps
Lets revisit the text starting from-
Hebrews 5:11-14. Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.
For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.
For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.
But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
Paul is urging them towards maturity.
Now lets take up Hebrews 6:7-9.
For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
Verse 8: But that which ""beareth thorns and briers"" is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
THE KEY IS IN VERSE 9.
Verse 9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and ( things that accompany salvation,) though we thus speak. WHAT ACCOMPANIES SALVATION? FRUIT AND REWARDS.
Verse 8 parallels with
Isaiah 5:6-7. And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.
For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.
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You see these verses can not be about salvation, if so we're all in trouble.
Its about what accompany salvation.
I hope that helps.
Psalm 2:7: This is one of many Messianic Psalms which have a reference to the coming Messiah (see also Psalms 8, 16, 22, 34, 35, 40, etc.). David would not have had full knowledge of what God had put on his heart to write, except that God did have a plan, that through David there would be in the future an everlasting kingdom ( 2 Samuel 7:12,13). Whether David felt there was some reference to him in Psalm 2:7, is not known, but he knew ultimately that these words did not apply only to Him but to Another, as we read the whole Psalm. Even the NT writers referred to it: Acts 13:33, Hebrews 1:5, Hebrews 5:5, indicating that they too saw Psalm 2:7 as ultimately referring to the Messiah. So, you're correct that it is God speaking to (or, inspiring) David to write the Psalm, but many Psalms & other OT writings are prophetical pointing to Jesus, as even Jesus Himself looked back at those prophecies that spoke of Him & urged others to do so ( John 5:39).
There is only one God our Father. Should we not honor the Son as we honor the Father? Like we're told. Does not Jesus Christ have all the power and authority of the Father? Given to Him by the Father. I myself don't believe Jesus Christ is God the Father but that the Father is in Him and He in the Father. I also believe in the deity of Christ that He was with the Father before He came to earth. Like He says. Can I explain all this? No. That's what I believe and it all came to me through the Holy Bible.
A couple verses showing God the Father is not Jesus Christ:
Matthew 26:39 And He went a little further, and fell on His face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
John 8:17-18, 17 It is also written in your law, that the testimony of two men is true.
18 I am one that bear witness of Myself, and the Father that sent Me beareth witness of Me.
Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; but he that said unto him, Thou art my Son, today have I begotten thee.
Hebrews 9:24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us
( 2 Peter 1:17-18, 17 For He received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to Him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with Him in the holy mount.
Why can't some believe in two, plus the Holy Ghost, which is three in this new covenant? One God.
While I address this reply to Alex, I know he will not hear. But this forum is open to many others who come here with an intent to hear and see God's word. It is no surprise that agents of Satan will be here to slander God's word. They operate as the fowls following the sower, to take away the seed of truth. Luke 8:12
Another example is that God called the first man and woman Adam which means earth ( Gen 5:3). Adam (male) was the one to name Adam his wife (female) eve. Because they are our foreparents all of humanity is called "earth"...besides read John 10:34-38 and Psalm 82:1-6. Those who are born of God the Psalmist says are gods. Jesus said, "I and the Father are one" ( John 10:30-33; Deuteronomy 6:4; Philippians 2:6).
Jesus also called the church his bride so we are also one with him.
Any title of God is inherited by Christ who is the begotten of the Father ( Psalm 2:7; Hebrews 5:5). Our children refer to us as father and mother although we ourselves call out parents the same...I hope this helps.