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Thank you. I needed to hear encouragement to pray for the Holy Spirit to guide me into all truth , to listen to wait and rest, as I find myself getting caught up in needing answers 'now'. Thank you for the scripture references and encouragement to pray for others, and the reminder that God will protect his word.

God bless you

The Holy Spirit is Your Teacher

The desire for Jesus is in you already. The Bible is the Word of God. Like these following scriptures show us: with your own spoken words, ask the Holy Spirit to make His home within your heart, To be your Teacher. Thats his ministry to you. You will know He is teaching you. Open your mouth and speak: "Holy Spirit, come alongside and teach me what this passage means?"

Begin in the Gospels and stay in there until you know who Jesus is to you; what he likes; doesn't like; listen to his replies to people he met on his journeys.

John 14:26

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said to you.

Luke 12:12

For the Holy Ghost shall TEACH you in the same hour what ye ought to say.

2 Timothy 2:24

And the servant of the Lord must NOT strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, gentle

1 Timothy 6:3-4

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;

He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

THE FRUIT OF THE HOLY SPIRT

Galatians 5: 22-23

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

NOW we see through a glass, DARKLY, but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I AM KNOWN. And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is Love.

God watches over His Word. We're going to meet people who oppose themselves. Sometimes more is accomplished by praying for them. Heartfelt prayer is always right. Jesus is interceding for US. King David was a man after Gods own heart. His prayers and Psalms will help you.

Mishael

People's Bible Notes Commentary Ephesians 4:13

Till we all come. These offices are given in order that all may come to a goal that is named just below. They must be continued in some form until that goal is reached. In the unity of the faith. This is one of the great objects to be attained through these offices. Paul, as an apostle and a prophet, exhorts to the same end in Eph 4:2. As an apostle and prophets, he so exhorts still. Every evangelist and pastor who is under God's spirit should labor to the same end. Not only "unity of the faith", but unity of the knowledge of the Son of God is aimed at. Full unity of the faith will be found when all alike know Christ. Unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ. "Unto a fullgrown man" (Revised Version). The second end to be attained is a noble manhood, fully developed, after the modes of life furnished in Christ Jesus. This must be the aim of all teaching, and of all living. If we cannot attain fully to it in the flesh, we certainly can aim at it and grow more and more into Christ's likeness.

People's Bible Notes Commentary

Hebrews 6:19

Which [hope] we have as an anchor of the soul. As an anchor holds the ship when the storms are raging, so this hope holds the soul steadfast. And which we enter into that within the veil. The veil was before the Holy of Holies in the tabernacle, but it was a type of heaven. Hence this means that the hope reaches to heaven. It is a heavenly hope.

I'm sure some others will come in later and give more light on your questions.

Chris or any who want to reply:

Apologies for not responding earlier. Thank you for your response! I consider myself to be one who has been on 'milk' for way too long. I am now attending a local church and am in a woman's Bible study who is studying Hebrews.

I am also in dialogue with the pastor about salvation. He believes that man has his own will to 'walk away' from God and that God will not fight the will of man. Thankfully he is very open to questions and thus far from his sermons, is not one that preaches condemnation-works salvation.

From a very simple viewpoint, I think about ones who live in a rural area that have only one church available to them. This is likely not true now but in the past is a possibility. I say all this because won't there be many in that church community that are 'saved' but may have differing interpretations? Eph 4:13 came up in my study today, not sure I am taking it out of context, but could it support my simple viewpoint? Thank you again.

God bless you

I am sorry for the way I posted the question in my post. It should not have been posed as an accusatory "If you" question, as though my intent was to accuse you or the asker of the original question specifically. I should have at least said it as an "If I" or "if anyone" question instead. I agree with James that not many of us should be teachers and that I stumble in many ways in what I say. That is why I separated my opinion of the text given in my previous post from the original post I wrote that tries to lay out what the Bible actually says and how it is generally understood with what I hope was minimal commentary of my own.

In any event, I should have tried to make it even clearer that it is the author of the Book of Hebrews I would really be questioning for laying out such an extensive doctrine that largely appears to rest on Melchisedek having all of the characteristics he described, if in fact he knew or believed Melchisedek in reality was a man that was no different from the levitical priests who had none of Christ's preincarnate characteristics. If that was what he actually did, many if not most of his conclusions can be rejected as being based on a faulty premise or even worse an intentionally deceptive premise.

Ultimately I conclude the doctrine laid out by the author of Hebrews is actually based on his firm belief that Melchisedek is a preincarnate appearance of Christ, and the characteristics he attributes to Melchisedek as a result are actually true. The conclusions he reaches based on those characteristics are founded on a true premise in that event. Taking that as my view, I can have full confidence in his doctrine.

God Bless you, If anyone ask any question it deosnt mean that they asked wicked manner , if i or someone asking some clarification means they want to know the truth with bible reference. Anyhow God bless you abudantly.

Regards,

Prasanth Konde

You asked me to give my opinion, but before I did that I wanted to lay out what an opinion on this topic should be based on. Regardless of what conclusion I reach, you cannot base your opinion on that. You have to be convinced based on scripture more than anything I or anyone else says.

Now my opinion is that Melchisedek is a preincarnate appearance of Christ and that what the author of Hebrew attributes to Melchisedek are derived from Christ's actual preincarnate attributes. The appearance of Melchisedek is nonetheless presented convincingly as a man in the original account, as we should be convinced Christ's preincarnate appearances would not preclude Him from His incarnate appearance which makes Him our sympathetic High Priest.

The alternative interpretation that the author of Hebrews is taking advantage of an absence of information about Melchisedek to build an entire theology of Christ's High Priesthood around undermines his entire case. If you can falsely attribute Christ's attributes to a mere man that meets none of those qualifications to establish that Christ's High Priesthood and the nature of it predates the Levitical Priesthood and the inadequate nature of it, how have you proven anything other than that you may be a liar?

If Melchisedek was in reality just like the Levites that were born, lived and died and his nature in no way actually differed from theirs other than the point in time he arrived, the case made in the Book of Hebrews falls. Without the resurrection, had Christ merely become incarnate at a point in time and died on a cross, the entire Gospel falls.

Anyway that is my view.

Many think Melchisedec is a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus Christ. The passage in Genesis about Melchisadec taken just by itself does not give a clear indication of this:

Genesis 14:18-20 - 18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

The primary basis for thinking Melchizedek is Christ is a result of the way the author of the Book of Hebrews interprets this passage to show the superiority and primacy of Christ's High Priesthood over the Levitical High Priesthood in connection with the Messianic Psalm of David, Psalm 110, particularly Psalm 110:4

4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

The primary passages in Hebrews dealing with Christ's High Priesthood are:

Hebrew 3:1-10, Hebrews 4:14-16, Hebrews 5, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7.

Hebrews 7:1-3 is the most important passage to consider:

1 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

One view of vs 3 is that Melchisedek is a man who lived and died, but the author of Hebrews is using the mystery/absence of this info to liken him to Christ in His preincarnate state. The other is that this actually is Christ in His preincarnate state, but He appeared as a man like He ultimately did to reveal Himself as Son of God for us in order to become our High Priest.

is Melchisedic is Jesus christ in Old testment . When we see in Bible Melchisedic doent have of Preshood Geneologly. can you please give us your opinion

Hebrews 6:11, Hebrews 10:22, Deuteronomy 28,

Deuteronomy 28:66

And thy life shall hang in doubt before thee; and thou shalt fear day and night, and shalt have none assurance of thy life:

Isaiah 32:17

And the work of righteousness shall be peace; and the effect of righteousness quietness and assurance for ever.

Acts 17:31

Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

Colossians 2:2

That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

1 Thessalonians 1:5

For our gospel came not unto you in word only, but also in power, and in the Holy Ghost, and in much assurance; as ye know what manner of men we were among you for your sake.

Hebrews 6:11

And we desire that every one of you do shew the same diligence to the full assurance of hope unto the end:

Hebrews 10:22

Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

By consenting to become a born again Christian ( John 3)

To let go and receive the salvation of Jesus Christ;

To be filled with the Spirit of Jesus, the Holy Spirit.

An exchange is made in Heaven as your name is recorded in the BOOK OF LIFE. Jesus takes your sins (past, present, future) upon Himself. He becomes your Lord; but it takes some Bible reading to discover that.

You have assurance that FAITHFUL IS HE THAT PROMISED. All your sin is washed away with his blood. Isaiah 1:18. (Past, Present, Future)

If we have failures (we all do) then mark in your Bible,

1 John 1:8-10. Pray and confess. Jesus throws it as far as East is to west (infinity).

This is why we sing Blessed Assurance at Church. :)

Build Christian friendships.

Amen Brother Chris.

Well stated.

God bless.

Hi Janet. I hope brother Jesse does see your comment & responds, but if I might be allowed to share my understanding of this passage, Hebrews 6:4-9. And I include verse 9 because I believe it's vital to understanding what the Hebrews writer is conveying.

I agree, one could read this portion in various ways, but I read it like this: the writer is sharing an 'impossibility' with his readers. Why does he do this? Well, there were different types of people reading this epistle, chiefly those out of Judaism (as the Letter title suggests). Some had grown weak in faith (hence a 'word' of exhortation: 13:22). Some were in danger of being distracted by the old Judaistic beliefs which tend to minimize or reject the Person of Christ (mostly the whole letter given to this important point). Others were facing persecution (though not to the point of martyrdom: 12:3,4). And others, giving the appearance of being Christian, sharing with other believers in the blessings of God & illumination from His Word.

So what's the 'impossibility'? IF a true believer could fall away from salvation (i.e. lose his salvation by totally rejecting Christ), then he would have to make mockery of Christ's death by ever coming back to the Cross for salvation. The writer says that this is an impossibility - it cannot happen, He cannot be mocked. That is why he was persuaded (confident) that the true believers amongst them would never be like this sad example - rather, they would be bearing fruits from their salvation (v9). And so they were being encouraged to press on in their walk & not grow weary or lose heart. But the imposter 'believer' who ultimately turns his back to Christ, maybe with slanderous words against the One Who came for him, and after receiving every opportunity & blessing from the Word & Holy Spirit, has no further chance of returning back or gaining salvation. See also Hebrews 10:26-29: for a similar warning to those who grievously sin by rejecting Christ to return to Judaism.

Jesse

Not sure you will see this but one question, it says they will be partakers of the Holy Spirit. Does this mean they have received the Holy Spirit? My assumption is yes. So they were believers? Thank you

Hebrews 6:13-20

O I don't and there are none but plenty that say phrases lie if you terry until the end or hold fast until the end, plus reve 22:18&19 Now once your saved you can no longer suffer God's wrath and that is what you saved from. The doesn't teach this and combine them eternal salvation to every lasting life and being saved, or Rev 22:18&19 are a lie. The big worry is if you use a changed Bible, you welcome it and are partakers of their evil. There is a blessed assurance, and you are sealed by the Holy Ghost, but it also states that if you resist the Holy Ghost it will flee from you. There is also a verse that states if you renew one to the body that has fallen you have saved a soul The bible is a whole you can't cherry pick verses to sat what you think or feel or were even taught. Of no private interpretation. And once you've tasted

Hebrews 6:4For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

5And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

6If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

I know all that, Charles. Most people know water baptism follows salvation. Sooner rather than later.

"My people perish for lack of knowledge"

Not everyone knows that, upon Salvation; they are given the gift of the Holy Spirit, by Jesus. Indwelling within their spirit. Book of John teaches it.

That's why we need people to lead the lambs to the good SHEPHERD; of the Bible.

Jesus calls. We follow. He appoints. We follow.

We preach the GOSPEL__which is Jesus Christ:

Birth, life, death, resurrection. He made disciples__we make disciples. It's a five fold ministry: open your hand. The thumb is the apostle, the forefinger is the prophet; the middle is the teacher, ring finger the Pastor that carries Jesus's lambs, the little finger-the evangelist. The thumb touches upon all 4 fingers (Jesus).

Apostles are those who saw the risen Christ with their eyes. They were Sent to plant churches. Quite possibly they are missionaries that Go Ye all around the Globe_planting churches; building schools.

Don't disparage on what other Disciples are doing. Most of us are doing what The Holy Spirit shows us to be doing. Our work: good, bad, or whatever, is unto the Lord Jesus. There will be the Bema Seat Judgment to sort out the wood, hay or stubble_later. Jesus knows what's in our hearts, all along the way.

I've been an evangelist for 30+ years, over 4 states. I've moved 22 times. I'm not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the POWER OF GOD unto Salvation. I love my life and it wakes me up happy, every day. I fix things I can, and give those I can't; to Jesus.

I am a story teller, not a scholar. I'm nothing without the Holy Spirit. I worship Jesus with my life; but the Spirit of Christ is the Holy Spirit and my beloved friend. We sing together sometimes. He doesn't even mind if I sing like a frog. I keep hoping for a miracle :D for other peoples sakes.

I'm 70 and I've witnessed the final generation:

The Terminal generation of the Fig Tree.

Sister GiGi,

Thanks for responding. Recently, family and related issues have been keeping my attention. Although, I try to check in here periodically, and read many posts, but regrettably, I don't always have the time to give response.

Glad to see you are a regular here, love your posts, and glad that you are sharing God's Words!

God Bless.

Good afternoon Bro Dan, I was wondering about you since we hadn't heard from you for a while.

It seems that the topic of baptism comes up on this forum every 3 or 4 weeks in the past few months. It usually gets a fair amount of exchange among posters. I do think that is a good thing because someone new has asked a question concerning this topic and the site does not keep prior posts about this and other topics very long.

Thank you for your stand on this. I agree with you. I just cannot brush away the commands of Jesus on this as I have not found a place in the NT that explicitly says that baptism as these apostles knew it at the time Jesus gave His command (water baptism) was ever rescinded or replaced with the "baptism of the Holy Spirit". But many on here will present their rebuttal on this like in the past. It is important to speak to this. So thank you.

Michael,

Jesus was baptized, and so were all of the original apostles, and they were submerged in water. If, for whatever reason one can't be submerged in water, for medical issues or other true concerns, I believe God will know this, and understand. But, to just say - no I'm not doing it, is not following God's commands. Like saying the thief on the cross was not baptized and was saved, so I will do the same, does not honor God's command that we be baptized, and it is a mockery.

Jesus instructed his apostles to go out into the world and baptize:

Matthew 28:19 Context

Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

If we believe in what Jesus states in this scripture, and much other scripture, yes we must be baptized.

Read and believe.

John 3

After being born again by praying to receive Jesus; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit.

Go to the link on the red page: Become A Believer, and work through the Bible teaching on how to become a follower of Jesus.

The Holy Spirit is your Comforter, your Helper, and Your Teacher. As you read scripture, every day, ask Him to help you to understand how it applies to you now. Start in the Gospels and head towards Revelation. Every time we read Revelation, we receive a blessing from the Lord. (Chapter 1) The book of Isaiah has many prophesies about Jesus. Before He came to earth to save His people (us). He promised_ he fulfilled each and everyone prophesy. We can have confidence that He will fulfill what has been set down and recorded.

He will draw close to YOU, if you will draw close to Him. If you sin (we all fail sometimes), read 1 John chapter 1, chapter 2:1-2, all of it truly.

1 John 3:11. We can't fellowship with sin anymore. It takes effort to cling to Jesus for our guidance. Find a BIBLE teaching Church; even if it's on the FM radio.

Coming by here is a way of fellowship. Everyone loves to share. Just always compare what you hear, with scripture.

Learn how to use the SEARCH ENGINE on this website. Explore everything :D

We pray for everyone that asks for prayer. So put this site on your Google desktop. Drop in anytime! Some of us are nightowls lol

Ephesians 6 tells us who the real enemies are, to our walk with God. We all get opposed by the devils. Say what Jesus said, in the Gospels.

May the Lord bless you and keep you close to his vest, and keep you encouraged as you walk with Him.

Do you need Baptized in water after the Holy Ghost came the Bible says one baptism, guy you are opening a can of worms here there are more opinions on it then churches. The thief on the cross wasn't baptized and Jesus said to him, today I shall see you in paradise. But it's good to be baptized for the remission of sin and if you study it being fully submersed symbolizes being buried with Christ and rising with Christ and being a new creature. Use the search box type baptism, baptized and read it and study it 2 Corith 13:12 study to show thyself approved...............

Do we have to be submerged in water for a true baptism. To receive the holy ghost?

There is: Psalms 110:4, Hebrews 5:6, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hi Michelle. This passage speaks of Jesus Christ. And the Apostle Peter refers to an Old Testament prophecy in verse 6: "Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste" ( Isaiah 28:16).

So Peter reaffirms that it is Jesus Who is this Living Stone, not only a foundation stone & a tried stone on which His Church is built, but One Who is alive forevermore. This Stone, men had rejected (they crucified Him, and do so today in their hearts in their hatred of Him), but He is the Chosen One of God & so precious as God's Son & the Forerunner of our faith (having entered the veil of death on our behalf at the Cross, making those who believe, acceptable to God, & He ever lives as our Great High Priest to intercede for us: Hebrews 6:19,20).

Here are several scriptures I found about death & after death : James 2:26, Ecclesiasticus 38:23, Ecclesiasticus 22:11, 2 Maccabees 7:36, 2 Maccabees 12:44, Ecclesiasticus 10:11, Ecclesiasticus 17:28, Baruch, 2:17, Psalms 88:10, Psalms 115:11, Ecclesiastes 9:5,

after death,: Matthew 17:1-3, Luke 7:12-16, Luke 8:49-56, John 11:21-45, Matthew 27:50-54, Luke 16:22-31, John 21:14, Acts 3:15, Acts 4:10, Mark 12:25,26,27, Luke 24:46, John 5:12, John 5:25, 1 Peter 1:3, 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 4:5, Revelation 1:5, Revelation 1:18, Revelation 14:9-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20,21, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:9, Matthew 22:32, Isaiah 26:19,

Hebrews 11:35, Revelation 20, 2 Esdras 2:16, Hebrews 6:2, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 11:4, Hebrews 13:20, Revelation 11:18,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Amen. May God continue to bless your walk.

I have a comment regarding baptism- I don't see it as murdering Jesus. To me baptism is more a celebration of what Jesus has already done and publicly obeying and embracing Him through the symbolic act. It's a very positive thing, not a negative thing.

The Bible says nothing bad about being baptized more than once. Is it possible this idea originated from this verse about falling away from Jesus? Hebrews 6:4-6

Some who were baptized as kids who doubted there sincerity later in life should not hesitate to be baptized, especially if they feel led to do so. I was and I am so grateful I was. Only good can result from obeying Jesus, not bad. God bless.

Prayers! I am so sorry for your loss! Seasons like this are very difficult, when emotions seem to rule. Our feelings will lie to us and make us feel forsaken, left alone. Do you believe God's Word is true? If so, His word says God CANNOT lie. "That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:" - Hebrews 6:18

1. He will not leave us or forsake us:

Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee. - Deuteronomy 31:6

2. He is with us to the end of the age:

".. and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age." Matthew 28:20

3. God's peace will guard our hearts and minds:

Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. Philippians 4:6-7

*He comforts us in our grief and sorrow*

Psalm 73:26 "My flesh and my heart may fail, but God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever."

Revelation 21:4 "And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away."

Psalm 34:18 "The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves the crushed in spirit."

Psalm 73:26 "My flesh and my heart faileth: but God is the strength of my heart, and my portion forever."

I pray that God's Spirit of peace and comfort surround you, encourage you that you are not alone and put people in your path to help you through this tough trial you are going through. Our ladies group will hold you up in prayer. God bless and keep you in Jesus' name!

Hello Chris

The scriptures that you quoted are certainly true. We are saved by faith not by obeying the law. He shed His blood for us. However, disregard of the law of God was what brought down Lucifer and Adam and Eve. There was no sin till then.We, in our flesh, also do not obey nor can obey the law of God. The 10 Commandments have not been abolished. Jesus said in Matthew 5 vs 18: 'till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law till all be fulfilled.'

What does being saved mean? To verbally accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour without complete commitment is worthless.What does He say about being lukewarm? We can lose our salvation as evidenced by scriptures such as Matthew24:13 'but he that shall endure to the end, the same shall be saved', Rev 3:11 'hold fast..so that no one may seize your crown', also eg. Mark 13:13, Hebrews 6:4-65, Heb 3:6

"SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW" 1John 3:4. If we sin, we have forgiveness by repenting to our advocate with the Father. 1 John 2:1. With His Spirit within us, we grow in our characters to become more like Jesus, who obeyed His Father.

He did not sin and became our substitute. We are saved from our sins not to keep on sinning. Deception in the churches on this point abounds. We are warned not to be deceived-eg. Matt24;4, 2 Thess 2-3, 1 Cor 6:9-10

To see what the faithful church will look like at the return of Jesus, examine Rev 14vs12- THEY KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD AND THE FAITH OF JESUS. In contrast to this, 'the love of many shall wax cold.' Matt 24:12

Note further Rev 22vs 14:

' BLESSED ARE THEY THAT DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, THAT THEY MAY HAVE RIGHT TO THE TREE OF LIFE AND MAY ENTER IN THROUGH THE GATES INTO THE CITY.'

Jesus does not separate Himself from His law. He said of Himself 'I am the Way, the Truth and the Life.'

The Bible also tells us in Psalm 119vs 142 'Thy Law is Truth.'

1 John 2:4 says we are liars if we say we love Him and do not keep His commandments.

Hi Hans.

A conditional covenant is an agreement between two or more parties that requires certain terms to be met. If the terms are met, there will be one kind of result (favorable). If the terms are not met, there will be a different result (unfavorable).

The case we have here is Abraham had no participation in the oath being made therefore he was not bound to an oath.

It was the Lord given the promise and it was "HE" who confirmed it with an oath.

Hebrews 6:13-14.

Hebrews 6:17.

It didn't take obedience of the Law to form the Covenant.

Galatians 3:17-18.

However I didn't Leave out obedience.

Here's why and how we obey.

AND OPERATION OF THE HOLYSPIRIT IN THE NEW COVENANT.

THE TRUE VINE!

John 151:17.

Ps. You are not expected to bare fruit until AFTER you are connected to the vine.

Notice verse 4.

John 15:4.

The branch cannot bear fruit of itself!!

Nor does it produce the fruit!!

Again. ( YOU CANNOT PRODUCE THE FRUIT ) YOU BEAR IT.!!

( 2 Corinthians 3:5. )

Hebrews 10:16

Romans 6:6

Romans 8:10-11.

God bless.