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  • Philip Christian Parks on Hebrews 7 - 3 years ago
    Commentary of Hebrews 7:10 (continued) = Language such as refers to Mary as "the mother of GOD" is indescribable high blasphemy, for it falsely describes Mary as an extra-ordinary woman, even on the level of supernatural. In contradiction to this false doctrinal heresy, note Mary's self-description as simply "HE(The LORD) hath regarded {looked upon} the low estate {humbleness; unworthy of any special attention} of HIS handmaiden {literally, a female slave}" (Lu. 1:48).

    The angel Gabriel clearly described to Mary of her humble humanity void of any inherent exalting qualities (Lu. 1:28):

    "Hail, thou that art highly favoured, The LORD is with thee: blessed art thou among women" (Lu. 1:28).

    In the verse above, the word "among" in the expression "among women" qualified Mary as equal to, no better or no worse, than the thousands of Jewish women of her generation. Her only distinction was that The LORD "favoured" and "blessed" her with the grand privilege of carrying JESUS The Incarnate SON OF GOD to term.

    Luke 1:46-47 also requires the exegete to consider Mary's praise to The LORD for her own personal Salvation:

    "My (Mary's) soul doth magnify The LORD, And my spirit hath rejoiced in GOD my SAVIOUR."
  • Chris - In Reply on Isaiah 43 - 3 years ago
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    All this pointed to a time in the future when God would then "provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering." ( Genesis 22:8). So the Old Testament showed the people their sin & need for a substitute sacrifice but all it did was to temporarily cover their sin (i.e. avert God's Anger against them) until the coming of "the better hope & the better Covenant" ( Hebrews 7:19,22). What was this new Hope & Covenant for Israel? Sin was still sin & the penalty then was the same penalty now, but the difference now was that God Himself would provide His Own sacrificial Lamb. All other sacrifices fell far short in God's justice system & could never deal with the sin issue - all people remained condemned before Him.

    But the same love that God had for His people in those old days was still very much the same to be demonstrated in these last days. John 3:16 best describes that Love which not only was for Israel but through this special Sacrifice, would encompass all people that each one could be saved by it, simply by looking to Him in faith. And the only Sacrifice that could demonstrate that Love & fulfil His Holy demands was that God Himself would, through His Son (the Word given flesh), would lay down His Life for us all. There could be no other suitable or acceptable sacrifice for our sins & to divert God's Anger against us that would send us to Hell for eternity. No man or animal could fully pay the price - God willingly gave of Himself for us all. "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends" ( John 15:13 & 1 John 3:16 "Hereby perceive we the love of God, because HE laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren). And the 'brutality of His Death' was because of the prevailing Roman form of execution, i.e. the release of Barabbas that Jesus might be crucified in his place.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 24 - 3 years ago
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    An onlooker might see some of this 'Christian' behaviour & fruit, but he doesn't see all, because we have neither that power nor privilege to do so. We accept each 'Christian' based on his testimony, his life & the need to build each other in the faith. If he should fall, we are to pick up & restore him in the spirit of meekness ( Galatians 6:1). But if he persists in his folly without repentance, as in 1 Corinthians chap 5, he is to be rejected, handed over to the kingdom of darkness that his spirit might yet be saved in the Day of Christ. As also seen in 1 Corinthians 11:27-30.

    So how does this then apply to your sad example of one who has given himself over to such sins? If he is/was a believer as you say, then there might still be hope that God is working in him - sometimes our fall is great so that our salvation might be greater. But if he has given his condition due thought, has no sense of conviction by the Spirit & may even have said that he rejects everything he has heard or believed, are we to assume that he is a fallen Christian or one that has never climbed out of the pit in the first place? Again, we cannot judge: we don't know man's heart & we don't know God's Work in that heart. One thing is certain, God makes no mistakes: those He saves, He saves to the uttermost ( Hebrews 7:25). If that person has fallen into the snare, God will speak & he will be retrieved. If he chooses the life of sin being apart from God & has no conviction, he was never a child of God without His Spirit in spite of any claims or apparent 'fruit', as the Spirit Who seals cannot abide in or tolerate such a life.
  • Michael - In Reply on Romans 5 - 3 years ago
    Hello Dan,

    Thank you for your comments.

    Can a person decide to keep only a portion of the laws of his city or country? Can a person keep only a portion of the terms of his rental lease or of his work contract? In like manner, can a person keep only a portion of the contract (Mosaic Law) made between God and Israel. There were over 600 laws given. The 10 commandments are only the first 10 of those 600+ laws.

    Notice what Israel said when the Mosaic Law (or Covenant) was inaugurated by blood at Exodus 24:3-8:

    Exodus 24:3 "And Moses came and told the people ALL the words of the LORD, and ALL the judgments: and all the people answered with one voice, and said, ALL THE WORDS which the LORD hath said will we do."

    James 2:10-11 "For whosoever shall keep the WHOLE LAW, and yet offend in ONE POINT, he is guilty of ALL."

    If a person keeps the 4th commandment but not the other commandments of the Old Covenant, he is breaking the law. That is why the apostle Paul, under inspiration, said the law had to be changed.

    Hebrews 7:12 "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity A CHANGE ALSO OF THE LAW."

    Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to VANISH AWAY."

    Replaced by the New Covenant (or Testament) by Jesus' shed blood.

    Luke 22:20 "Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the NEW TESTAMENT in my blood, which is shed for you."

    I gladly obey those commandments of Jesus Christ ( John 14:15), of the New Testament, which were communicated by inspiration and revelation to the Apostles - from Acts to Revelation. See 2 Corinthians 12:7 and 2 Timothy 3:16.

    I kindly welcome your further comments.

    I bid you a good day.
  • Michael - In Reply on Nehemiah 8 - 3 years ago
    Hello Richard,

    Thank you for your comments. I enjoyed reading your thoughts.

    Indeed, I certainly agree with you that the Old Testament books are still important for Christians. Indeed, the Apostle Paul said that all scripture is beneficial. ( 2 Timothy 3:16) He also stated at Romans 15:4 that those things were written to teach us. Also, at 1 Corinthians 10:6 and 1 Corinthians 10:11, he says that those things were examples to us to teach us and warn us.

    However, as far as the terms of a Testament or Covenant concerning the laws that we must obey, Christians should obey only the New Testament laws which are binding on a Christian. You cannot have 2 rental leases in force at the same time. The new rental lease makes the old one obsolete. The New Testament makes the Old Testament obsolete.

    Hebrews 8:13 "In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away."

    Hebrews 7:12 "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the (Mosaic) law."

    Luke 16:16 "The (Mosaic) law and the prophets were until John..."

    Christians are not commanded in the New Testament to keep the Saturday sabbath and neither to keep a dominical sabbath (Sunday). There is no set day to keep. The only thing that is commanded to be kept is meeting together - that can be anytime during the week.

    Hebrews 10:24, 25 "And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

    The Apostle Paul counsels against keeping any "day":

    Galatians 4:10 "Ye observe (sabbath) days, and (lunar) months, and (festivals) times, and (sabbatical) years."

    Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

    I welcome your further comments.

    Good day, Richard.
  • Michael - In Reply on Exodus 15 - 3 years ago
    Hello Bridget,

    Thank you for your comments.

    You quoted Exodus 20:10 to say that we must observe the sabbath. However, you quoted from the Old Testament given to the ancient nation of Israel. Could you provide me a verse from the New Testament which commands the Church to keep the Sabbath? If not, why not? Why would the Apostles never instruct or remind the Christian Church to keep the sabbath if it was that important?

    You also quoted Malachi 2:6 that God never changes. But, then why did God change the law of circumcision? The Old Testament said you must be circumcised - a commandment of God at Leviticus 12:3. But, in the New Testament, we are told that circumcision is not necessary. See Galatians 5:2. Also, why does Hebrews 7:12 say the the priesthood was changed? I thought you said that God never changes. In the Old Testament, the priesthood was Levitical but in the New Testament, the priesthood is according to the order of Mechizedek - another change of God. See Hebrews 7:11.

    The Apostle Paul, at Galatians 4:10, scolds the Galatians for keeping the Old Testament rituals. The brackets are mine.

    Galatians 4:10

    "Ye observe (sabbath) days, and (lunar) months, and (festivals) times, and (sabbatical) years."

    No wonder the Apostle Paul asks the question at:

    Galatians 4:21 "Tell me, ye that desire to be under the (Mosaic Old Testament) law, do ye not hear the law?"

    Colossians 2:16 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:"

    I welcome your comments, Bridget.

    Good day.
  • Bro Barney - In Reply on Hebrews 7:9 - 3 years ago
    Johnnie,

    Giving to the poor and needy is a wonderful thing and should be encouraged. However, you mentioned tithes. In the Old Testament God required tithes in order to support and maintain the temple for worship and support of the priests. Today we have many churches going under because of lack of attendance and support. The churches I am familiar with are in need of tithes to support their pastor and maintain a place of worship. Satan is working hard to close all churches to reduce the preaching of God's Word and he is making greater strides every day. You might consider this when making your decision.

    God will honor the giving of tithes to the church as He did the widow that gave two mites, Mar 12:42. He will honor you even more if you give to the poor in addition to your giving to your church.

    FYI, I service in my church without pay.

    Thank you
  • Sacha - In Reply on Hebrews 7:9 - 3 years ago
    Hi Johnnie ,yes of course it is ,Matthew ch 25 ,v 31 untill the end .
  • Johnnie on Hebrews 7:9 - 3 years ago
    I would like to know if it is alright to give your tithes to the poor?
  • Carleton More inspired God the Son scriptures by a few of my brethren Part 3 - In Reply on Genesis 14 - 3 years ago
    "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even we also should walk in newness of life. For if we had been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. Likewise reckon ye also to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord." Romans 64-11

    "he ever liveth to make intercession for us" Hebrews 7:25

    "And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous" 1 John 2:1

    "No man hath seen the God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him" John 1:18

    "I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world" Matthew 13:35

    "In my Father's house are many mansions.... I go to prepare a place for you" John 14:2

    "God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good" Acts 10:38

    "Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps" 1 Peter 2:21

    "For I have given you an example, that ye should do as I have done to you" John 13:15

    "Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven and things under the earth; and that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father" Philippians 2:9-11

    "I am a debtor" Romans 1:14
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 Corinthians 10 - 3 years ago
    Lou, the RCC view of the Lord's Supper or Sacrament is a little complicated. What was a simple meal shared together in the Upper Room by the Lord & His disciples, or when the early Church observed as a meal during which time a remembrance of the Lord was made, has now been modified & re-interpreted in other ways. Those not of the RCC view the Lord's Table as simply a memorial 'feast' to remember the Lord's Sacrifice through the emblems which denote His broken Body & shed Blood.

    To the Roman Catholic, the Sacrament is substantially much more. It essentially involves the Presence of Christ & the transmission of the Grace of Christ. Though RCs are able to support these with Scriptures, it becomes a case of how the Scriptures are given & meant to be understood. The same with the Apostle Peter as being the first pope, from whom the papal line succeeds.

    You're correct, that each time the Eucharist is celebrated, Jesus is crucified (a renewed sacrifice) as the bread & wine are materially changed, though unobserved, into Christ's Body & Blood. And through this act & belief, fresh grace (indeed grace upon grace) is also transmitted whereby the person is brought into a state of belief that the more he can get of Christ, will be for his greater spiritual blessing & absolution of sins. Your observance of such a belief as being rife with errors is correct. When one sees other facets of the RCC, with its robed priests, incense burning, statues, rosary & many more, they suggest the need of much paraphernalia to bolster or support faith & adoration. However, as we come to God in faith, it must be evident that our faith must be sufficient to approach God, to speak to Him, to expect of Him, to be accepted of Him. Anything else added to this negates faith & brings in 'works', which is incompatible to (justification through) faith & a walk & worship in faith.

    Romans 6:9,10, "For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." Hebrews 7:24-27.
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on Leviticus 21:18 - 3 years ago
    This stipulation pertains to the priests in Aaron's line. In order to approach unto the Holy God, without offense, on behalf of their people, they must be as perfect as humanly possible. This models Jesus Christ, our Great High Priest:

    For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; ( Hebrews 7:26)

    Believers in Jesus Christ, by grace through faith, are encouraged to approach unto God regardless our many personal shortcomings.

    Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need. ( Hebrews 4:16)

    To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. ( Ephesians 1:6)

    And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: ( Colossians 1:21-22)
  • Chris - In Reply on Isaiah 51:4 - 4 years ago
    Thank you Andy - well written. However, as Christians & by virtue that that title implies, we're no longer under the Old Covenant but under the New, that which Christ has instigated for us. So many believers place themselves under the Old when claiming to be obedient to the Spirit's Law written on their hearts. I can't fathom how that can possibly work as the annulment of the Old was necessary before the New could take effect ( Hebrews 7:18,19). So the great question is: can a believer depend entirely on the Spirit's Voice to his heart, or His reminders of the 'higher' Law that exceeded that which was written on stone, and also have spiritual discernment to what is sin for him that may not be sin for another?

    And then another question that comes to mind: can a believer who has truly been saved through Christ's Blood & have the indwelling Spirit to be his constant Guide & Strengthener, ever fall into such spiritual disrepair, where "the flesh needs be given up for destruction so that the spirit might be saved in the day of Christ?"( 1 Corinthians 5:5). Again, believers are divided on this issue, & we ought not to be, if we understand the saving Grace of God that comes without measure & without flaw. I detect that often the Gospel we preach is done with such zeal for the sinner's soul, that we fail to make it a more serious matter requiring deep introspection & conviction. Without being affected by the depth of our sin & certain everlasting judgement, the sinner's response to receive Christ might well be superficial, resembling the seed that did not fall into 'good ground'.

    Many Churches are filled with such, even in the pulpit, & so I valued the time I had with older Sunday School children, teaching them from a very well titled workbook: "So, you think you are a Christian!" Every lesson was a challenge to both teacher & student to maintain great vigilance of the soul, being introspective & knowing the full significance of Christ's great Sacrifice.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Hebrews 7 - 4 years ago
    Wesley's Notes for Hebrews 5:7

    The sum of the things treated of in the seventh and following chapters is contained, Heb 5:7-10; and in this sum is admirably comprised the process of his passion, with its inmost causes, in the very terms used by the evangelists. Who in the days of his flesh - Those two days, in particular, wherein his sufferings were at the height. Having offered up prayers and supplications - Thrice. With strong crying and tears - In the garden. To him that was able to save him from death - Which yet he endured, in obedience to the will of his Father. And being heard in that which he particularly feared - When the cup was offered him first, there was set before him that horrible image of a painful, shameful, accursed death, which moved him to pray conditionally against it: for, if he had desired it, his heavenly Father would have sent him more than twelve legions of angels to have delivered him. But what he most exceedingly feared was the weight of infinite justice; the being bruised and put to grief by the hand of God himself. Compared with this, everything else was a mere nothing; and yet, so greatly did he ever thirst to be obedient to the righteous will of his Father, and to lay down even his life for the sheep, that he vehemently longed to be baptized with this baptism, Lu 12:50. Indeed, his human nature needed the support of Omnipotence; and for this he sent up strong crying and tears: but, throughout his whole life, he showed that it was not the sufferings he was to undergo, but the dishonour that sin had done to so holy a God, that grieved his spotless soul. The consideration of its being the will of God tempered his fear, and afterwards swallowed it up; and he was heard not so that the cup should pass away, but so that he drank it without any fear.

    People's Bible Notes for Hebrews 5:7

    Who in the days of his flesh. Christ, while on earth, is referred to. When he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying
  • Jimmy Jett on Hebrews 7 - 4 years ago
    explain Hebrews 7;5,6,7 please thanks
  • Chris - In Reply on Mark 1 - 4 years ago
    It's gratifying to read of your interest in this subject; the whole Book of Hebrews is so very special as it shows us the beauty of Christ Jesus & His superiority over the prophets, angels, Moses & in His (Jesus') Priesthood. Keep reading the Word of God & keep enquiring into its richness - it is God's Message for you to build you up & encourage you.

    So, in this respect of what the Hebrews writer has given, Abraham is seen as not greater than Melchisedec. And this was shown by the fact that Abraham gave Melchisedec a tenth of the spoils of war, when in fact such an act would be reserved to giving them to the priests. Yet, there was no official priesthood then, as Levi (from whom the priesthood came) was not born, but in the olden days, the kings also sometimes served as priests. In this instance, Melchisedec was a king in Canaan & even though not having any heritage to a godly line, was still a man of God, we understand, whom God had blessed & endowed to specially serve his people. Abraham's coming to him after the war, prompted Melchisedec to give Abraham & his troop food & in return Abraham paid tithes to him. Genesis 14:18. So in this respect, Abraham, though the Father of many nations, was lesser in status to Melchisedec, who pointed to a greater King & Priest.

    And because there was no record of Melchisedec's family heritage, nor of his birth & death, the Hebrews writer uses him to show that Jesus comes as his type, rather than from the Levitical priesthood. Even though Melchisedec was a man who still had a history, the knowledge we have of him, shows Jesus as his type: not from a line of priests; no descendants in his office as Priest; no commencement or close of his office as Priest. What is said of Jesus: He "hath an unchangeable priesthood" ( Hebrews 7:24), & because of this & His Perfection & Holiness, Jesus is able "to save (all people) to the uttermost that come to God by Him" (verse 25). That is, this Priest Jesus also became the Offering for mankind.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 4 years ago
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    The Holy Spirit resides in all who have come to faith in Jesus Christ ( John 14:17) & also convicts men of sin, of righteousness & (coming) judgement. ( John 16:7-11). So the Spirit is still working in the World until the appointed time when He is taken away (some argue as to when that time will be). The Son has now returned to the Father (back into the God folder), but He is distinct in that He is now God in the flesh, not as only the Word, but as the Son who has performed all that was required of Him on Earth & now at the Father's right Hand in Heaven ( Hebrews 7:25). In the human mind this is a difficult concept to grasp & that is why you are having difficulties. If you want to understand God in a human perspective, it won't work because we don't have anything on this Earth that can adequately compare to Him & our minds don't work in any other way. But do we say then that because we don't believe that such a Trinity can exist, therefore it's impossible for God to be such? I think then, that it's us who have the problem in understanding the Character of God & not the Doctrine.

    Yes, illustrating the Trinity to man's trinitarian composition, is 'problematic': no illustration can adequately do the job, but I felt compelled to use it to try & help you understand, but that didn't work. And lastly, God is Spirit ( John 4:24), the Word was part of that Spirit, & the Holy Spirit was sent out into the World. So we only knew & heard God as Spirit in the OT. After Jesus ascended into Heaven, we see the (visible) God in Jesus, but we also know that God is still there ( Revelation 8:2 & about 3,000 other verses to prove it). God hasn't disappeared & Jesus has not taken His place. So please look into this & see where your theology has become skewed or maybe you are under some false teaching. May the Lord give you light on this very important matter.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 4 years ago
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    This same Jesus, fully man & fully Divine, was crucified, buried, resurrected & ascended to the Father's right Hand. Where once, the Word proceeded out from God, the Word now in flesh, raised in a heavenly Body, sits as the Divine Man at God's right Hand. So Jesus, as we too will be in Heaven, can communicate with each other - I see no problem with this ( Hebrews 7:25).

    And in regards to polytheism, by definition, is the multiplicity of gods. The Triune God is definitely not a polytheistic god - that would be sacrilege indeed. We don't have three gods in Heaven - there is only One God expressed in three Persons; I think you are understanding the Trinity teaching from a polytheistic perspective - God cannot be understood like that. If you see Jesus or the Holy Spirit as a lesser Entity, then you have not understood the Doctrine of God - all three in the Godhead are equally God & are the One God: co-equal & co-eternal.

    I gave you the example of your personal trinitarian existence, Hugo: you're composed of spirit, soul & body. Do you accept that? Without even one of those 'parts' you wouldn't be Hugo - maybe you could be some type of sub-human or just floating about in spirit form. Or with the Sun in the Universe: a body of hot gases, giving heat & giving light (3 parts of the one). It wouldn't be a sun as we know, if any entity of it was absent. These are of course poor examples to try & explain the Triune God, but I'm trying to show you that a Trinity does not necessarily mean three that are separate from each other, but can also mean three in one, as with God. But in Heaven now, Jesus is seen as separate because of his taking on of flesh & rising in a heavenly Body. We will be like him in Heaven ( 1 John 3:2). So please rid your mind that Christians entertain a polytheistic belief of God - that is a wicked belief, as you clearly wrote. Blessings.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 4 years ago
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    Yes, dear Hugo, I was referring to our conversation on 'prophets'. Re: Ecclesiastes 6:11, I think you have the wrong reference; possibly Proverbs 10:19, though this too doesn't apply.

    I realize that you're not denying the deity of Christ in one sense, but I would advise you that 'Trinitarians' likewise don't deny it either. A Trinitarian understanding of the Scriptures as you know, is that there is One God & that God has expressed Himself (& revealed to us) His Being. God shows us Himself also by His Word & His Spirit - you know the Scriptures that support this. Then at the appointed time ( Romans 5:6), God sent His Word ( John 1:14) to be clothed with flesh so that a full & permanent sacrifice could be made for sin unlike animal sacrifices.

    After Christ's death, resurrection & ascension, He went to sit at the Father's right Hand ( Luke 22:69; Romans 8:34) where He "ever lives to make intercession for us" ( Hebrews 7:25; Romans 8:34). So we see the Father in Heaven, His Son (Word made flesh) at the Father's right Hand & His Spirit who indwells the believer ( John 14:17; Ephesians 1:13,14) & convicts men ( John 16:8). There is no such teaching from the Bible that Jesus only exists in Heaven & that the Father & Holy Spirit are now existing in Jesus. I know this is the teaching of the "Jesus Only" movement. The Father, the Son & the Spirit are still there & all three remain part of the Eternal Godhead (& yes, by all means, level your accusation at me), for the Bible is clear. If you have Scriptures to show that this is not the case, then I welcome your further input & my study.
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 4 years ago
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    Their faith which looked ahead & our faith also had to ultimately rest on a better Sacrifice bringing in a better Covenant ( Hebrews 7:19,22). Their faith had to find its hope in Jesus, God's Sacrifice, as ours also, post-Cross, does. Their justification & ours also rest in the Holy One from God. There has been no other way for anyone to be cleansed, forgiven & accepted. To the Gentile unreached with the Gospel, Romans 2:12-16 speaks of these who are also subject to the law written within them & by this law they are judged & will perish, as the law accuses them or they find excuse to sin. But why should they be condemned if Christ is not preached to them? Again, are there any readied by God to go to them so they might hear & believe? We have heard of accounts of tribes so grateful for the Gospel to come, as their hearts have been prepared to look for & receive it. Then there have been those who have been violent to the message, bringing death to the messenger. Those such as Jim Elliot & his four companions reaching out to the Huaorani tribe in Ecuador; or John Chau missionary to the Sentinelese people in the Andaman Islands (off the E. Indian coast) were all martyred for Jesus.

    Or, to the good, decent people we know of, yet never moved to hear or respond to the Gospel. Will their decency & goodness be sufficient to save them in spite of sin? Romans 6:23 and Titus 3:5,6, "Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost; which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour". Even 'all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags' in God's Sight, so as much as we would long & hope for the ultimate saving of even those still without Christ even in death, I believe the Scripture is clear that a person's response to the Cross in this life determines his fate & sadly that fate is both horrible & eternal.
  • Chris - In Reply on Acts 10 - 4 years ago
    To understand Acts 10:38, we need to look at the event it refers to, i.e. Matthew 3:13-17.

    Three Questions: Why was Jesus baptized? Why did the Holy Spirit come upon Him? Why did God speak from Heaven?

    1. Jesus didn't need water baptism ( Mt 3:15) as that baptism by John was for a demonstration of one's acknowledgement & repentance for sins (not like Believers' Baptism today which is identification with the death & resurrection of Christ). John himself said that it was he that needed Jesus's baptism, which was not a water baptism but a spiritual one ( Mt 3:11).

    2. Jesus didn't need the Holy Spirit to come upon Him or in Him - he was sinless, filled with the Divine in the womb, birthed from God's Seed without human contribution & using Mary as the vehicle to bring His Son into the world with flesh & blood. Jesus was later tempted by Satan to sin & to receive a sin nature but He withstood him with the Word of God, His Own Authority.

    3. God could have remained silent during this time, but He chose to speak from Heaven.

    What do these events tell us? It was the inauguration of Jesus' Ministry on Earth taking Him all the way to the Cross. His baptism identified Him in His priestly role ( Exodus 29:4, Leviticus 8:6) through priestly washing & also pointed in a faint manner, His prophesied death & resurrection, to which all who put their trust in Him would replicate by identification.

    Then two more confirmations from Heaven for the benefit of those around to Jesus' Life & Work: the Spirit descended upon Him confirming His priestly position through an anointing ( Exodus 29:7, Leviticus 8:12) & God's verbal confirmation of Who Jesus is & acceptance of His position & work, as was in the days of Moses & Aaron ( Exodus 29:42-46).

    Jesus came to fulfil a high priestly role that no earthly high priest could fulfil ( Hebrews 7:11-28) & all that took place at the Jordan, pointed to Jesus as sent from Heaven to make full payment for sin - no priest could ever do that.
  • Jesus Existed Before He was born the Som of Man on 1 Corinthians 10 - 4 years ago
    I found other scriptures. The scripture 1 John 5:7 should be enough. Jesus name before Bethlehem is the WORD.

    Hebrews 7:3, speaking of Melchizedek, says: "but made Like unto the Son of God.."

    John 1:1-5, 14 clearly shows that Jesus, the Word; was in the beginning with God.

    Ephesians 1:4, 9-10

    Proverbs 8:22-31

    Psalms 33:6, Psalm 2:7

    Colossians 1:16-19

    Colossians 2:9

    1 Corinthians 8:6

    Note: the Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, declared Jesus Begotten: NOT made.
  • Eugenie on Hebrews 7 - 4 years ago
    By standard orders and the bibile principles,if we as a nation and mankind had pursuant to the carnal commandments he Christ would not gave up is life to restore us from sin,in order for the new law to be restablished on Love,that is what we ought to be doing,and Forgiving one to another, this world is misguing them selves from great er spiritual power of understanding forgive and love,the scripture is real it s Law
  • Bendito Palavra - In Reply on Hebrews 4 - 4 years ago
    Numbers chapter 13 and 14 contains the historical account of the exodus generation refusing to believe God. Only two of the twelve men that scouted the land had confidence in God's promise. The other ten influenced the people who then refused to enter in and take their inheritance.

    Psalm 95, which is the origin of the middle phrase in Hebrews 4:3, expresses the LORD's judgment of their unbelief.

    As for us, we are reminded in this passage that we enter into Jesus Christ by believing the gospel ( Matthew 11:28-30). We rest in his finished work on the cross, his resurrection and ever living intercession with our Father in Heaven ( Romans 8:34; Hebrews 7:25).

    The final phrase of verse 3 is preparing us to learn what follows regarding the difference of rest in Jesus Christ versus the seventh day when God rested from all his works ( Genesis 2).
  • Hebrews Chapter 7- does it not speak to us on Psalms 1 - 4 years ago
    Hebrews 7:22-28

    By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

    And they were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death:

    But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.

    Wherefore he is able also to save the from the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.

    For such an high priest became us,

    who is holy,

    harmless,

    undefiled,

    separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

    Who needeth not daily, as those high priest, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's:

    for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

    For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

    Hebrews 7:19

    For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did, by which we draw nigh unto God.

    Hebrews 7:20-21

    And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest.

    (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

    Levi was still in the loins of Abraham when Abraham paid tribute to Melchisedec.

    :)
  • Melchizedek - In Reply on Hebrews 7 - 4 years ago
    This what the Commentary writes:

    7:11 The apostle now demonstrates that the Levitical priesthood must yield to the priesthood of Christ, because Melchizedek , after whose order he is a priest, Is opposed to Aaron, # Heb 7:11 |- 14. Hath no end of life, # Heb 7:15 |- 19, but remaineth a priest continually. If now perfection were by the Levitical priesthood - If this perfectly answered all God's designs and man's wants For under it the people received the law - Whence some might infer, that perfection was by that priesthood. What farther need was there, that another priest - Of a new order, should be set up? From this single consideration it is plain, that both the priesthood and the law, which were inseparably connected, were now to give way to a better priesthood and more excellent dispensation.

    Comment:There are many scriptures on Melchizedek. His Priesthood was superior to the Aaronic Priesthood.
  • Melchizedek - In Reply on Hebrews 7 - 4 years ago
    This what the Commentary writes:

    7:11 The apostle now demonstrates that the Levitical priesthood must yield to the priesthood of Christ, because Melchizedek , after whose order he is a priest, Is opposed to Aaron, # Heb 7:11 |- 14. Hath no end of life, # Heb 7:15 |- 19, but remaineth a priest continually. If now perfection were by the Levitical priesthood - If this perfectly answered all God's designs and man's wants For under it the people received the law - Whence some might infer, that perfection was by that priesthood. What farther need was there, that another priest - Of a new order, should be set up? From this single consideration it is plain, that both the priesthood and the law, which were inseparably connected, were now to give way to a better priesthood and more excellent dispensation.

    Comment:There are many scriptures on Melchizedek. His Priesthood was superior to the Aaronic Priesthood.
  • Stephende on Hebrews 7 - 4 years ago
    Melchisidec, the King of peace: who was he? An apparition or manifestation? God, is not divided into 3 parts! Likewise, El Shaddai, the God of Israel is not limited to celestial places. As a God of mercy, He manifests where He feels like, To Moses, to Abraham, to Jacob, in dreams, to Jesus, His Faithful, to Paul on the road to Damascus, to Ishmael. He, the God of creation, will have His doubters in derision!
  • Greg - In Reply on Hebrews 2 - 4 years ago
    Bendito Palavra

    Concerning the Law;

    The everlasting Law God established with those that desire to be called His children still stands.

    The 10 Commandments still stand.

    Any time we sin we are under the Law.

    Everyone sins: Everyday!

    Blood ordinances were fulfilled by the death of Christ ( Matthew 26:28, Romans 2:29, Colossians 1:14)

    Priestly duties connected to the sons of Aaron were fulfilled in Christ. ( Hebrews 8:1)

    The Temple was destroyed; as promised: ( Matthew 24:2)

    Deuteronomy 29:29

    "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children FOR EVER, that we may do all the words of this law."

    1 Chronicles 16:17

    "And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an EVERLASTING covenant,"

    Ephesians 2:15

    "Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ORDINANCES; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

    Hebrews 7:12

    "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."

    Matthew 27:51

    "And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;"

    All has not been fulfilled.

    All will not be fulfilled until the return of Christ.

    Believe the words of Jesus.

    Mathew 5:18

    "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

    Concerning works;

    Why would Jesus care to evaluate the WORKS of the churches that are on earth at the end times when He comes back if they don't matter? ( Revelation 2:2, 9, 13, 19. 3:1, 3:8, 3:15)

    Also look at:

    James 2:14-26 - "Faith without works is dead"

    Revelation 14:13

    Revelation 20:12
  • Mishael - In Reply on Numbers 28:15 - 4 years ago
    You need to get another Bible with center of the page reference columns. Each alphabet or number refers to another scripture that adds more illumination to the first. Some are current to that time or they are prophetic (future). You have to get what you need to study these things deeper. Sometimes you have to buy reference books. I highly recommend a large print encyclopedia with a full concordance. Try AbeBooks to get previously owned. Google them.

    Here is a few on Leviticus

    16:5 see Lev 4:14, Numbers 29:11, 2 Chron. 29:21, Ezra 6:17, Ezekiel 45:22

    16:8. See chapter 9:7, Hebrews 7:27-28

    16:9 see Proverbs 16:33

    16:10 see Isaiah 53:4-10, Romans 3:25,

    2 Corinthians 5:21, 1 John 2:2

    At the end of all that you will see that Jesus was the Scapegoat for us. He has already made atonement for us.

    You're going to have to look this all up and then ask THE HOLY SPIRIT to teach you what it means today. He's your Teacher.

    It means prayer on your part, and turning off all racket to sit quietly before the Lord for answers. You will be amazed at what you learn. Psalm 63:6 and Proverbs 8:34


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