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Bendito Palavra

Concerning the Law;

The everlasting Law God established with those that desire to be called His children still stands.

The 10 Commandments still stand.

Any time we sin we are under the Law.

Everyone sins: Everyday!

Blood ordinances were fulfilled by the death of Christ ( Matthew 26:28, Romans 2:29, Colossians 1:14)

Priestly duties connected to the sons of Aaron were fulfilled in Christ. ( Hebrews 8:1)

The Temple was destroyed; as promised: ( Matthew 24:2)

Deuteronomy 29:29

"The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children FOR EVER, that we may do all the words of this law."

1 Chronicles 16:17

"And hath confirmed the same to Jacob for a law, and to Israel for an EVERLASTING covenant,"

Ephesians 2:15

"Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ORDINANCES; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;"

Hebrews 7:12

"For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."

Matthew 27:51

"And, behold, the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did quake, and the rocks rent;"

All has not been fulfilled.

All will not be fulfilled until the return of Christ.

Believe the words of Jesus.

Mathew 5:18

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."

Concerning works;

Why would Jesus care to evaluate the WORKS of the churches that are on earth at the end times when He comes back if they don't matter? ( Revelation 2:2, 9, 13, 19. 3:1, 3:8, 3:15)

Also look at:

James 2:14-26 - "Faith without works is dead"

Revelation 14:13

Revelation 20:12

Dear DH,

Since you feel guilt and remorse of your past sin that's a good thing. That means you genuinely regret it, but if you confessed this and repented to God already then God has already forgiven you. Hebrews 8:12. The only step remaining is you forgiving yourself and giving that burden to God. If you refuse to forgive yourself, then you might ask: what Jesus dying for you not enough? Galatians 2:21 It is for everyone else, so why not for you? He loves you that much to die for you and forgive your sin even when you mess up, even when you know better, can you accept that? Do you accept his gift?

>I feel it's unforgivable

Let's challenge this statement. This is an assumption, because you don't truly know that. It's also inconsistent with the Bible. The Bible says all sins are covered except for only one, blasphemy of the holy spirit, and that's not what you did. If your statement was true it would also be true for others too, but its not. There are countless others who have also gone through this and feel 100% forgiven. If its true for them how could a different standard apply for you?

The Bible already made its promises so if you don't believe the Bible that is another matter. You're forgiven, wiped away, and if you follow Christ you this sin is forgotten: Hebrews 8:12. It takes faith to believe the Words of God and to apply them. It clearly says you're forgiven. Believe and celebrate that and go and 'sin no more'. John 8:11

God bless you!

Speaking on the will of God...having faith, studying His word, meditating on His word. You will know His will because Hebrews 8:10 says......I will put my laws into their mind, and write them on their heart: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people He has given us the tools necessary to live accordingly. Be Blessed

Kim Burrow

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Concerning the abolishment of the Law of God:

The book of Hebrews shows us that the 7th day, the Temple, the Tabernacle, the Ark of the Covenant, etc., are a copy or replication of what God has already established in Heaven.

Hebrews 8:5 "They serve in a place that is a COPY and SHADOW of the heavenly meeting tent. This is indicated when Moses was warned by God when he was about to set up the meeting tent: See that you FOLLOW THE PATTERN that I showed you on the mountain in every detail;" from Exodus 25:40.

The heavenly pattern is what we follow, and God has not left us any information concerning that being changed in any way.

The fulfillment, partial or total that Christ has done in the Law does not make that Law abolished. For instance, the Temple is gone. We have become His Temple. The veil was rent from top to bottom ( Matthew 27:51) to show that we no longer need a priest to reconcile our sins for us. We all have forgiveness based upon repentance.

Fulfillment, in full, or in part, of the Law does not abolish it. What do you do with all other Scripture that does not agree with your assessment?

When Christ rose and spoke in the Synagogue on the Sabbath, He specifically left out the words in Luke 4:18-19 concerning the "Day of vengeance of our God" ( Isaiah 61:1-2) because that day has not come upon us all yet.

Christ came to fulfill the Law, not abolish it. Has the Law been completely fulfilled? No. We are still under the Law, which

Paul states "is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself" ( Galatians 5:14)

The "curse" of the Law is a persons' inability to keep it. That "curse" is what Christ has taken on for us. Not the Law. The Law is just and perfect. It is humans that cannot remain righteous; not even a single day of our lives!

Jim

You are deceived!

Concerning the "divorced Israelites"..remember what they were BEFORE they were divorced. However, the covenants, OLD AND NEW is STILL with the Israelites, not with EVERYONE IN THE WORLD. Romans 9:3 "3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my BRETHREN, my KINSMEN according to the FLESH:rnrn4 Who are ISRAELITES; TO WHOM PERTAINETH the ADOPTION, and the GLORY, and the COVENANTS, and the giving of the LAW, and the SERVICE of God, and the PROMISES;rnrn5 Whose are the fathers, and OF WHOM as concerning the flesh CHRIST CAME, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen."rnHebrews 8:8" also explains WHO both OLD and NEW covenant is for. See WHO Israel is today( Deuteronomy 28)

Well said Samantha. Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.
Hebrews 8:12
For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.

The old regulates people through curses and blessings. Reward n punishment Jesus lived in the old and hushered the new when He rose. Now the new is 'tougher' then the old because it encompasses your intent. Hate is as bad as murder, lusting is now adultery and break one commandment you break them all. The new is about agape, real altruistic love. Love your enemies, bless those who persecute you. You must love everyone without biased. Our Father will help achieve this heavenly order.

Irene, WE are not supposed to pray to anyone or to anything except ""GOD through "JESUS CHRIST" our intercesor . The only way to salvation is through the blood of JESUS. John 16:24-26, Hebrews 8:25.

The earthly tabernacle built during the exodus was patterned after the tabernacle of God in Heaven. Ex 25:8,9 40 . The tabernacle built "without hands" after which the earthly tabernacle was modeled resides in Heaven. The tabernacle system portrays the plan of salvation. The earthly version was the type: The heavenly version fulfills the types. This is the message of Hebrews 7-10.

The laws statues, commandments, were only given to the Israelites, Romans 9:1-5, Salvation is only for the Israelites Luke 1:68-75, you must walk in faith and works James 2:22. The new Kingdom is for Israel, Jeremiah 31:31, Hebrews 8:8. To get eternal life you must do the commandments of God Matthew 19:16, 1 John 5:3, John 14:15, Ecclesiastes 12:13. God hates the sinners Ecclesiasticus 12:6.

"Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man." We have the ultimate high priest...but of the church, the true tabernacle, built as Jesus said he would. That tabernacle is the temple on earth.

Free to live Lawless? If the light that is in thee be darkness, how great the darkness! Do we then make void the Law through grace? God forbid! Nay, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW! Jesus DID NOT ABOLISH THE LAW; but came to make it completely filled up. Do you think that you honor God by despising and rejecting His Word? The Law and the Prophets are fulfilled in us who walk according to the Spirit.

Stephende...i hope you see this soon...Jesus did abolished the Law..he fulfilled it then when he was crucified he abolished it... Ephesians 2:15..hope this helps you...we r free!!!!!

Disciple:My sins are washed, forgiven and forgotten. Our sin has to be washed NOT covered washed by the blood words of the bible John 15:3. Forgiven and forgotten. Hebrews 8:12] For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more." John 15:[3] Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: The new covenant is for the Jews not the Gentiles .

Matt.7:13. V.14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life (eternity in His Kingdom) and few there be that find it." Matthew 20:16 and 22:14 "For many are called, but few chosen." God calls them to salvation, but does not chose them. Also; Matthew 5:17:20

Melkie, 2 Timothy 3:13"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."

I understand, sort of, that Christians deem themselves redeemed by the Blood. But, really what has changed since the resurrection but another religion of sinners. Our people in earth more religious, God fearing than in the days of Moses and the Prophets. Not at all. In fact they are by far the greater in hypocrisy and ignorance. In the days of old, they were more righteous in that successive

1Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.'4For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders

The original Covenant is not abolished for Jesus learned from it. He taught in the Temple reading and teaching from the Torah and the Prophets. Noone will succeed without reading the whole Bible. It should be read daily. Baptism should be an acknowledgment and not a free pass to salvation.

This is saying WHEN the new covenant comes, which it has not, "ALL" do no yet know the Lord and we are still teaching our brothers to know the Him. This is that which is spoken of in Jeremiah in 16:19 "...the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit." The laws are not changed.

Norman, read 1 Peter 3:21. Repentance is the work, baptism is the outward sign that forgiveness of sins has taken place. A new child of God. Romans 6. Water baptism is showing outwardly that which has taken place in the heart. Like Christ being buried and rising again, it shows we are new creatures in Christ, dead to our old ways.

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

In the 12th verse the Lord spoke saying he would be merciful to the people unrighteousness and their sins and Iniquities he would remember no more. This is very important because it proves that not only repentance is required but according to Acts of the Apostles chapter 2 verse 38 every one must be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of their sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost....baptism saves us...For the Lord not to remember our sins we must be immersed in water...this is part of our salvation...repentance is equal to death...baptism to burial and Holy Ghost to resurrection.

I'm excited that because of a better covenant that even I am forgiven thank you Jesus!

The Truth changes one 's view of how we see Jesus. He is the High Priest, ordained by God, and is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens. The minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which he pitched, and not man. Being ordained High Priest it is necessary that he also have something to offer. He received a more excellent ministry, by which he also is a mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. God 's mercy to the house of Israel and the house of Judah 's unrighteousness, and to their sins and iniquities to remembers no more. Jesus the High Priest who sits on the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens forgave the sins and iniquities of their fathers and their generations. That is amazing to me, that God would forgive them and choose to receive them instead. He didn 't want them to parish, so he chose to forgive them instead, and always reaching out to the people desiring to have them repent and to reach out to him. What an amazing God!

I find this passage interesting, in that some are using verse 13 to actually condone homosexuality. While it talks about the old covenant fading away, it is because of the new covenant. While we should show mercy, we cannot condone those who do not even try to understand nor follow God.

Wow! A wonderful truth the sum of the whole matter. Jesus the minister of the true nd the living santuary that ws nt made with human hand, our high preist, a mediator of a new and better covenant with a perfect and better promises. We re standing on the better covenant with better promises.

VERSE 8 IS THE KEY, YAHUAH WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH YISRAEL AGAIN, NOT WITH NOBODY ELSE. READ EZEKEIL 37 AND JEREMIAH 20. SHALOM