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Free to live Lawless? If the light that is in thee be darkness, how great the darkness! Do we then make void the Law through grace? God forbid! Nay, WE ESTABLISH THE LAW! Jesus DID NOT ABOLISH THE LAW; but came to make it completely filled up. Do you think that you honor God by despising and rejecting His Word? The Law and the Prophets are fulfilled in us who walk according to the Spirit.

Stephende...i hope you see this soon...Jesus did abolished the Law..he fulfilled it then when he was crucified he abolished it... Ephesians 2:15..hope this helps you...we r free!!!!!

Disciple:My sins are washed, forgiven and forgotten. Our sin has to be washed NOT covered washed by the blood words of the bible John 15:3. Forgiven and forgotten. Hebrews 8:12] For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more." John 15:[3] Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.

Hebrews 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah: The new covenant is for the Jews not the Gentiles .

Matt.7:13. V.14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life (eternity in His Kingdom) and few there be that find it." Matthew 20:16 and 22:14 "For many are called, but few chosen." God calls them to salvation, but does not chose them. Also; Matthew 5:17:20

Melkie, 2 Timothy 3:13"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived."

I understand, sort of, that Christians deem themselves redeemed by the Blood. But, really what has changed since the resurrection but another religion of sinners. Our people in earth more religious, God fearing than in the days of Moses and the Prophets. Not at all. In fact they are by far the greater in hypocrisy and ignorance. In the days of old, they were more righteous in that successive

1Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples, 2Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.'4For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders

The original Covenant is not abolished for Jesus learned from it. He taught in the Temple reading and teaching from the Torah and the Prophets. Noone will succeed without reading the whole Bible. It should be read daily. Baptism should be an acknowledgment and not a free pass to salvation.

This is saying WHEN the new covenant comes, which it has not, "ALL" do no yet know the Lord and we are still teaching our brothers to know the Him. This is that which is spoken of in Jeremiah in 16:19 "...the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit." The laws are not changed.

Norman, read 1 Peter 3:21. Repentance is the work, baptism is the outward sign that forgiveness of sins has taken place. A new child of God. Romans 6. Water baptism is showing outwardly that which has taken place in the heart. Like Christ being buried and rising again, it shows we are new creatures in Christ, dead to our old ways.

John 1:17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. 7:6 But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Hebrews 8:13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

In the 12th verse the Lord spoke saying he would be merciful to the people unrighteousness and their sins and Iniquities he would remember no more. This is very important because it proves that not only repentance is required but according to Acts of the Apostles chapter 2 verse 38 every one must be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of their sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost....baptism saves us...For the Lord not to remember our sins we must be immersed in water...this is part of our salvation...repentance is equal to death...baptism to burial and Holy Ghost to resurrection.

I'm excited that because of a better covenant that even I am forgiven thank you Jesus!

The Truth changes one 's view of how we see Jesus. He is the High Priest, ordained by God, and is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens. The minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which he pitched, and not man. Being ordained High Priest it is necessary that he also have something to offer. He received a more excellent ministry, by which he also is a mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. God 's mercy to the house of Israel and the house of Judah 's unrighteousness, and to their sins and iniquities to remembers no more. Jesus the High Priest who sits on the right hand of the Majesty in the heavens forgave the sins and iniquities of their fathers and their generations. That is amazing to me, that God would forgive them and choose to receive them instead. He didn 't want them to parish, so he chose to forgive them instead, and always reaching out to the people desiring to have them repent and to reach out to him. What an amazing God!

I find this passage interesting, in that some are using verse 13 to actually condone homosexuality. While it talks about the old covenant fading away, it is because of the new covenant. While we should show mercy, we cannot condone those who do not even try to understand nor follow God.

Wow! A wonderful truth the sum of the whole matter. Jesus the minister of the true nd the living santuary that ws nt made with human hand, our high preist, a mediator of a new and better covenant with a perfect and better promises. We re standing on the better covenant with better promises.

VERSE 8 IS THE KEY, YAHUAH WILL MAKE A NEW COVENANT WITH YISRAEL AGAIN, NOT WITH NOBODY ELSE. READ EZEKEIL 37 AND JEREMIAH 20. SHALOM

Thing is just because god has granted us grace according to the sin we commit we are to forget that the commandment of not taking gods name in vain is what we should not let our minds forget. This has been a big debateful topic that if now we are led through grace should we follow his commandments or no??? A simple answer to this from the Bible itself is from John and that is God says, If you love me you will obey my commands. Beyond this I think there can 't stand any other thing.

We should imitate our heavenly Father.we should be merciful to our friends and families unrighteousness, to, and remember there sins no more that have been against us.We need the Holy Spirit to help us.

The sacrificial lamb....the blood of our Lord and His resurrection was the gift that God offered to we who believe this new covenant took away the fear of what would be under the Commandments and the law of the old and by the Divine mercy, faith and love of the risen Lord Jesus, a new way, a new Grace that promises to those with faith, with love for one another, love and devotion for He who died so that we might know salvation through faith, hope and love, by His mercy, by His Grace, without fear. We remain with responsibility to keep the Commandments of the Father and we must follow the teachings of Christ that are of love and care for one another without judgment, with duty to be the best sinner we can be for the rewards that the new covenant outlines. Let your love that is of the Living Christ within you radiate into the world be generous as your gift is priceless and ask forgiveness where you may have done wrong to another as there is no comparison for what we are forgiven. Have no past that can know your future for through daily prayer, our sins forgiven. Christ spoke often of love for a reason and that when we judge, we leave no room to love. Be love. Know you are blessed no matter your present circumstances and always remember that God promised an advocate to reside within us, the Holy Spirit, so that we always have access to Jesus Christ, until He returns to reclaim His kingdom and all will renew. Be His love and proclaim His word of Grace. Blessings all.

i think verse 9 if totally understood would turn our lives upside down and the power of the book of acts, would begin to manifest in our lives to the glory of god... much fruit for Ezekiel 36 is this new covenant, and Isaiah 54:9 is thee attitude in which he will remember our sins no more.....AMEN

I still don't understand! It truly sounds like all will know him-period! It seems that we are reading into only what we think will make it more sensible and realistic to us.

Verse 6: "Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever. ..." The book of Hebrews identifies the "O God" here with Jesus the Christ. We know this because it goes own to say in Hebrews 8:9 that "You love what is right and hate what is wrong. Therefore God has anointed you, or has made you Christ. ...

Then it says in verse 10, "Lord (God) in the beginning you laid the foundation of the earth." This definitely speaks of Jesus ( John 1:3) as the one, and therefore God, who created everything there is.

It was always Gods plan to come to the earth in the personality of Jesus the Christ. This is exactly what he did when he was born in that lowely stable that Christmas morning. And as Paul often said, "I think God through Jesus Christ our Lord."

God bless you.

I will hide your WORD in my heart so that I may not SIN against THEE! The LORD took HIS WORDS off of tables of stones and put them into our hearts. Only HE can do this. But, let us not use these verses to cover sin. Paul says because GRACE is here should we continue in SIN. Thank GOD for the New Agreement. Let us remember HE died for SIN

We need to let God do the judging of man. He is far more merciful. Man tends to thrive on the wrong doing of others and God wipes the sins of man completely away from his memory when they accept Christ.

1-13 is telling us that the first covenant did not work because the Jews could not follow them. It was not just the 10 commandments, it was about 600 or so commandments. They are listed in Exodus.God is letting us know that the new covenant will be put in place when Jesus comes. The laws were made for the Jews. Jesus new covenant was for all of us that believes the Truth from the Bible and follows Jesus instructions.

God is a good god.

Comments on Galatians 5:18 “But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law”.
We know from 1John 3:4 that “sin is the transgression of the law”. When Christ died, “he did away with the Law” (the Old Covenant), and we entered a New Covenant ( Jeremiah 31:31, Hebrews 8:8). Now we are under Grace ( Romans 6:14).
So, let me see if I understand this “process of salvation” correctly: (1) I hear the Word of God which tells me that He loves me ( John 3:16), and that He died for me though I broke no Law. (2) I accept that I am a sinner, even though the Law that would have condemned me does not exist anymore. (3) I receive Christ as my personal Savior, Who saved me from sins that actually don’t exist, since I was born after Christ died and made the Law obsolete and of non-effect. (4) I get baptized and receive the Holy Spirit, and I am no longer under the Law, which was nailed to the cross. (5) Having received the Holy Spirit, I am now under grace. I am free from the Law, and basically I can do anything I want, since there is no more Law to condemn me. (6) Yes, it would be nice to express the fruits of the spirit: love, joy, peace, long-suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance etc. (verses 22, 23); but these are optional, “because against such there is no law”.
Now, do the statements 1-6 make any sense? I know that many Christians think so. But, let’s see: Perhaps they would have made sense if only Apostle Paul hadn’t mentioned the works of the flesh: “Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like (and the list goes on): of the which … I have also told you in time past, that THEY WHICH DO SUCH THINGS SHALL NOT INHERIT THE KINGDOM OF GOD” (verses 19-21)… Hey, what happened to grace? We’ve already established that I can’t keep the Law because the flesh is against the spirit ( Galatians 5:17). Even Apostle Paul says: “For the good that I would, I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do” ( Romans 7:19). What’s going on here? The sins mentioned above are transgressions of the Moral Laws that have been “abolished, nailed to the cross, gone”. Now you tell me that I can’t inherit the Kingdom of God with all that love, sacrifice and grace? It seems to me that Apostle Paul is contradicting himself: or, is he? This chapter teaches that the Moral Laws were not included with the rest of the Mosaic Laws that ended at the cross, and that we still have to keep them. They were in effect when you and I were born, and are in effect today: we broke them, and this is why you and I are sinners in need of Christ’s forgiveness and redemption. But for sure, in this letter to Galatians Apostle Paul is talking about circumcision and other Ceremonial Laws fulfilled by Christ (verses 2, 3, 6, 11, 13). You just can’t have it both ways! Brother R.R. came up with a “good excuse”: I can’t memorize the Ten Commandments; therefore I don’t need to keep them. But Apostle Paul disagrees; he says: “I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me” ( Philippians 4:13). Amen.

This is real! The word of God is real. I know because I was once sinner and saint, slave and free, clean and unclean! God is trying to keep us clean and pure, so this is good still for today, in fact, it is a must to obey the law/or command of God, even for the good of life, or the truth of life. God sent Jesus Christ to fulfil the law and the prophets, not to diminish/or destroy them ( Matthew 5:17). But a new covenant has God the father made ( Jeremiah 31:31-34, Hebrews 8:7-13), and with God the son have he made it ( Hebrews 10:16)... A new covenant God the father made with us, but not to destroy the law and prophets!!