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In John 1:29 John sees Jesus and says "Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
And then in John 1:33 John says Jesus "is he which shall baptize with the Holy Ghost.
BAPTISM MEANS TO IDENTIFY WITH or IDENTIFICATION.
John's baptism was to Identify the Jews with the coming covenant which would be brought in by Christ death. see Hebrews 9:15-17.
Jesus baptism was Identifying with us. see Romans 6:3-6.
Jesus was baptized because He was taking our place. This reveals His perfect identification with us; He took the place of the sinners.
The account in Matthew 3:15 Jesus says it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness"
He was made "sin for us, who knew no sin" ( 2 Corinthians 5:21). I think the explanation is found in that. He's identifying Himself with the human family in the baptism.
I hope this helps.
God bless.
I'm sorry, but you are mistaken. The resurrection tenants and time-line is specifically laid out in a particular order:
#1) The saints are resurrected first. They heal the earth alongside millions of mortals, great tribulation survivors, and at the end of the 1,000 years, God defeats the 3 evil spirits that make us behave cross towards one another. The saints are judged at the seventh trumpet, they are the first fruits of the 1st resurrection. You are implying at the 1st resurrection, Jesus is picking out souls for everlasting life, but it's the resurrected saints he's gathering prior to Revelation 14:1. 1 Thessalonians 4:17, Paul is referring to the saints only, not anyone else.
#2) The Great White throne Judgment, resurrection happens AFTER the 1,000 years, Revelation 20. This is the resurrection of the rest of humanity, the sinners, unbelievers, believers of false doctrine. This is my place, where I belong, you will find me amongst the sea of humble sinners, praying for redemption. Ezekiel 37:1-14, the valley of dry bones ALLEGORY of the 2nd resurrection where God had pity on the whole house of Israel and reestablished him at the last, Isaiah 14:1.
'Jesus has to prepare a place for us' is synonymous with Jesus creating a new heaven and new earth. The 1st resurrection saints will enter a totally destroyed world, Isaiah 24. The 2nd resurrection group will inherit paradise.
Hebrews 9:27 God set the parameters for entering the kingdom of heaven, part of it is to require a mortal death. Jesus Christ was the first example of being 'born again'. Jesus is the only man to live, die, having God resurrect him into everlasting life!
Please consider what I'm saying in accordance to the narrative of what Biblically occurs. I have 1 more intriguing post for you about the saints.
If you notice my post, I put the word rapture in parentheses because I realize that it is a word commonly used for what will happen to believers when Jesus returns for us. But, my comments speak to what happens on the very last day when Jesus returns. There will be some who are alive at that event, and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 explains what will happen to both those who have died and those still alive at His final coming. Everyone, both believers and unbelievers will be judged at that time, as far as I have gathered from reading.
As far as Hebrews 9:27, this passage is not speaking to the time of Christ's return as far as I can tell.
As for where all believers of all time will reside after Jesus comes and we are all changed, I have no doubt that God has prepared a place for us, as Jesus stated. As to where this place is, I do not think that Scripture clearly specifies. But Jesus did say that He was going to prepare a place for us. And the place He went to was heaven.
Where are the 25 billion believers that ever lived going to fit on earth? What about God's other people who are true lovers of God, will they not suffer a mortal death, too? Wouldn't you need a new earth and new heaven to accommodate such a large number of people? Also, if Christians are raptured, that puts the doctrine in direct conflict with Hebrews 9:27.
Ezekiel 21:1-4 describes Israels visitation; both good and bad people are taken (killed). No rapture.
Luke 17:34-37 The disciples ask Jesus where the "taken" people go? Jesus says the bodies will be where vultures circle. They are not raptured, they are dead.
The rapture isn't Biblical doctrine, you adopted it along the way. It's popular when there's a shortage of sound solutions, and chances are you wouldn't have settled on that doctrine on your own. The "rapture" was made popular by a 15 year old girl, Margaret McDonald. Study the topic before answering, I can wait a few days. I really want you to focus in on the subject, take notes. We're going to use scripture and logic to iron this out.
Thank you.
And as it is appointed once for man to die, then the judgement.
See Hebrews 9:27
As far as raising the dead, God can do anything He wants to do. He has hung the Earth on NOTHING!
But I have not read any accounts in the Bible of anyone being raised from the dead after the body has been cremated. And I have not ever seen or heard of it.
I do know that God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, so that whosever believes in Him, won't perish [spiritually], but have everlasting life.
See John 3:16
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I let the Bible define itself, simple, or risk compounding errors.
The last week (7 years) of 70 weeks is a 2,000 year old power prophesy between Christ and the man of sin (anti-christ).
Daniel 9:26-27 Jesus had the first 3.5 years of absolute power, and was cut off (crucified). At the sixth trumpet, when anti-christ strikes, he too will have 3.5 years of absolute power, between the sixth and seventh trumpets. In the "midst of the week" he will deliver the abomination of desolation to US NATO & Israel, 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4, falling away.
"the last half of the Tribulation lasting 1260 days is" = The GREAT tribulation, Matthew 24:15, the sixth trumpet strike on Israel (whole house).
There is no rapture, it's a lie. We are all appointed one death, Hebrews 9:27. Look what Ezekiel said about the day of the Lord deaths: Ezekiel 21:1-5. Verse 4: Both the righteous and the wicked die!!! What did Jesus say about it? Luke 17:34-37, He's asked where do the people go? He answers, 'wherever the body is, so will the vultures be'. They are part of the 2.6 billion dead, Revelation 9:18, from the GREAT tribulation. The 1st resurrection is at the seventh trumpet, NOT before.
Revelation 13. Who are the two beasts?
Again; the ceremonial laws Christ Himself deliberately allowed to be broken (such as eating heads of grain on the Sabbath Day). He also corrected the Pharisees as to what "work" truly involved; showing that mercy was more important than blind legalism by healing on the Sabbath repeatedly.
In some sense then the New Covenant or more superior one abrogated the old ( Hebrews 9:15). Even the Old Testament allowed for God's grace to stand above judgment; for instance with David's sin with Bathsheeba that involved adultery and being complicit to murder. These were death sentence penalties according to the law. God also had a greater plan since His lineage came from the line of David. Notwithstanding this; however there was collateral damage such as the loss of the child (who David would see someday in heaven); as well as enemies being a constant thorn in the side.
Our sin is a serious matter; Paul warned the Corinthians about taking communion unworthily ( 1 Cor. 11:27); as well as in the book of Acts Ananias and Sapphira were killed because they lied to the Holy Spirit. We can then be saved but taken out early; if we are saved. Those who continue in an unrepentant LIFESTYLE of sin likely aren't saved as there is no conviction of the Spirit; or new heart showing genuine conversion. We must not only know the truth but LOVE it.
You will be alive when Christ comes back, Christ has already come, the SECOND TIME, to everyone that is BORN AGAIN of TRUTH and LIFE, those Christ dwell in, will never die, you just switch bodies so you can reign with Christ.
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many (first coming in the flesh); and unto them that look for him he shall appear the SECOND TIME (Christ in you, truth and life, in you) without sin UNTO SALVATION.
I am going to give you a different perspective of Zechariah, you seem to have already come to truth that we have to be destroyed, flesh and blood can not enter the Kingdom of God.
Zechariah 14:2 This shall be the plaque of them which have fought fight against Jerusalem ......everyone was born into deception, Jerusalem, is TRUTH, we all fight against Jerusalem ...... their (our) flesh (deception) shall consume away while they stand on their feet ..... deception is of this world, truth is of the next world, deception (flesh) cannot live with truth, it has to be destroyed ......
This same thing is described in Revelation 19, the marriage supper of the Lamb, we have to have our flesh eaten from us.
God Bless YOU, as Christ leads you into all truth.
1 Corinthians 3:16 states that we are the Temple of God now. Thus; as Colossians 2:9 states the "fullness of the Godhead bodily" showed how Christ was fully God and fully man; but also he had the "Spirit without measure". ( John 3:34). We as believers in the N.T. times since Christ's atonement go immediately to heaven after death (see Hebrews 9:27; 2 Cor. 5:8). We are "sealed with the Spirit" ( Eph. 1:13-14) from the moment we are saved (that is TRULY saved); hence the Spirit dwells in us (see John 14:23).
We can look at the Holy Spirit (or Holy Ghost) as the pneuma in some extent; or what is breathed into us from above much as the soul of man had life given to it when we are born the first time. God therefore rules over all and determines times and seasons; Christ is the 2nd member of the "Godhead" hence in accordance with God's plan became the sin offering for our redemption and thus was "given" all authority over heaven and earth ( Matthew 28:18-20).
When He humbled Himself a man; he trusted totally in the Spirit to do His miracles as an example for us to do the same. Clearly; there were certain things which are at least primarily limited to the Apostolic era. Nonetheless; we are told to "bear fruits worthy (meet) of repentance ( Matt. 3:8 and elsewhere). There are characteristics of a Spirit filled life; and also various gifts or manifestations given by God to every believer (see 1 Cor. 12). PRIMARILY; the Spirit of Christ brings forth to convict the world of "sin; righteousness and judgment to come." ( John 16:8-11). We know we are one of His children if we have a new heart ( Ezekiel 36:26); and of course if we trust God; obey Him and obey Him to the best of our ability. We desire God and the Spirit will convict us (he chastises all He loves). ( Heb. 12:6 etc).
I pray that you have a personal experience with the Lord
Suleiman in 1540 apparently sealed the eastern gate in Jerusalem; which is apparently where the Messiah is going to return at the Second Coming (or shortly thereafter after defeating His enemies). We can see this in the beginning of Ezekiel 43 as well as Ezekiel 44 in the closing of the gate. There are other scriptures in Nehemiah and Zechariah which point to the glory of the Lord to the east as well.
The repeated theme in verses 7 through 10 could also refer to Christ's triumphant return to the heavenly city and throne when He sat at the right hand of God after accomplishing His work here on earth ( Acts 2:33; Hebrews 10:12 and about 100 ADDITIONAL cross references to that affect!)
When we see His triumphant return; His vestures are dipped in blood. ( Rev. 19:13; Isaiah 63:3). It is certainly possible that when He first entered heaven there was some of the blood from His atonement placed there ( Hebrews 9:12). I would take this verse literally; although there is commentary from some famous people (I will leave unnamed) who say to the contrary.
A couple other themes seen in verses 1 and 2 show the original earth and that after the flood that God established. To be in heaven according to verses 3 through 5 have certain characteristics. We need to heed not swearing deceitfully as well; for any covenant or vow before God is something we are to keep our end on (and I am placing the marriage covenant there as well). God is eternal therefore not planning to change His covenants; with the exception of the New Covenant that He established abrogating the sacrifices of the O.T. for a better one ( Matt. 26:28; etc.) Verse 6 states a generation of them that seek Him; that could be the whole resurrected group of saints; or the Millennial generation born on earth after He comes; or both.
As for now; we remember that He will always have the nail scarred hands and feet on His resurrected body. ( Luke 24:39). He conquered death itself; which also is a theme discussed in the next study on Psalm 23 often used to assure those on their hour of need or to those facing death. Our only hope is in Christ; as are the blessings so we need to carefully examine our hearts to see if we are right with the Lord NOW. (See Hebrews 9:27).
Agape.
There seems to be a few errors committed by these two men.
a. "they took either of them his censer." Not any censer that were present with certain people, but the one holy censer ( Hebrews 9:4) that always remained in the Tabernacle, was to be used. And only one person was permitted to do this work.
b. These men erroneously assumed the work of the High Priest, since the Law stated that only the High Priest could perform this work ( Leviticus 16:11-13).
c. "offered strange fire before the LORD, which he commanded them not." It seems that they took the fire from an ordinary source & not from the holy fire off the Altar ( Leviticus 16:12). So, it could be that this "strange fire" coupled with their unauthorized work & use of illegal implements, angered the LORD that brought on their immediate judgement & punishment. This also has a lesson for us: our salvation & the new life that Jesus has given us was both undeserved & so precious - we need to take it seriously & live carefully before our Heavenly Father - something those two sons were very careless with.
Tekoa, Sister GiGi, who is presently sharing her observations & thoughts on this Book of Leviticus, is giving some great material to consider & learn from. You may care to follow her presentations, starting from Chapter 1.
I tend to emphasize the same concept as Christ preaching to the spirits of disobedience in hades. This is; along with likely the 144,000 primarily if not exclusively a DECLARATORY message of judgment rather than the Gospel as it stands today; since by the sixth seal ALL of mankind will know about God and Christ as well as the beginning of judgment. I would say this probably can be defined as the completion of the "Gospel of the Kingdom" ( Mark 1:14-15). The Gospel was said not to be given to all the cities of Israel before Messiah returns ( Matthew 24:14). There are certain verses about preaching to kings and having the Holy Spirit give the words which seem to be dual prophecies for the Apostles as well as the end time saints; as much of the generation that is described that will not pass until all these things come to pass seems to be describing later on in verse 34 of the same chapter.
It does seem that there is a lag time between the Rapture and the appearance of the 2 witnesses. Since certain judgments on the earth are held back before the 144,000 and likely the 2 witnesses coinciding with that time frame; it would seem that time is needed (they say 6 months or so) for the Temple to be constructed and for most of the seal judgments to transpire first.
That in my mind would also all ow the so called " Psalm 83" war to take out Israel's surrounding nations and their threats to come first before Ezekiel 38.
Deuteronomy 10:8, Jeremiah 3:15,16,
Hebrews 9:8,
Revelation 11:19,
Hopefully these are helpful
I believe God answered his prayer in Matthew 26:39. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, IF IT BE POSSIBLE, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
"IF" it be possible may be the clue.
If there was any other way for man to be saved there would have been another outcome.
And later in Acts 4:12 Peter was able to say this "Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved."
And also John in Revelation 5:2-5 "And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?
And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.
And I wept much, because "NO MAN" was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."
Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast "REDEEMED US" to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
Jesus is our Kinsman redeemer.
No MAN in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book,
To be a Kinsman he had to be a Man,, "So Jesus took on flesh for the suffering of death."
Hebrews 2:14.
And to redeem us he had to be able and willing. He was the perfect Lamb of God. 1 Peter 3:18.
Hebrews 9:22-26.
I believe there was no other way.
There was no other sacrifice that would make it possible.
God bless.
You stated "The apostles chosen, were favored because of their faith , looking for the Messiah, this is the heart that Jesus wants!"
I have to disagree.
The faith they needed was faith in what Christ done on the cross.
"It hadn't happened yet". They all looked for their Messiah but didn't understand what was to come. (The Church and salvation by the death and resurrection of Christ )
Thus was a stumblingblock for them and this is what John the baptist ministry was all about. Baptism of repentance.
They was still under the old covenant, Christ hadn't died to bring in the new covenant. Hebrews 9:15.
You stated "this is the heart that Jesus wants!,
No man's heart is right until the Lord gives him a new heart.
Jeremiah 17:9
Ezekiel 36:26.
The Cornerstone wasn't laid yet, so the foundation couldn't be laid and there was nothing to build on and there was nothing to build with until after Christ rose and they were inpowered.
What was the duties before the resurrection? They tried following him but couldn't.
Paul was seeking to kill Christians until he was converted.
BUT!! When they were filled they had strength and died a mortars death.
Here's they're duties before the resurrection. John 6:28-29. Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God?
Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
They were chosen to be Apostles but the didn't function as an Apostles until They were filled with the Holyspirit.
God bless.
Luke 16:19-31, Matthew 25:31-46, Ezekiel 18:4-32, Luke 20:36-38, Hebrews 9:27-28, James 5:20, 1John 3:14,
John 11:25,26, Romans 8:13, Romans 8, Romans 14:8, 1Corinthians 15:22, 1Corinthians 15,
Revelation 14:12,13, Revelation 2:10,11, Revelation 20:6,13,14, Revelation 21, Revelation 22,
Hebrews 11:5,
Hopefully these are helpful
I do not mind repeating to all that the Bible is a complete book Revelation 19:13 for us today to prepare ourselves and others. I pray all to be saved. We cannot have the people caught unaware of Matthew 24:37. To rightly divide is to know for us today what we need to do. So I will say that the 11 apostles messages are important for the physical Jews Matthew 10:5-7 at the end time; and there are verses in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John that pertains to a spiritual Christians of today.
God had chosen Paul to be His vessel so we can read and believe not in vain. Study the Book of Romans to Philemon because he was the Last and believe it or not the 12th Apostle Galatians 1:1, Acts 9:15, Acts 13:47, Acts 22:21, Roman's 11:13, Ephesians 3:8, 1 Timothy 2:7, Galatians 1:16. After Jesus died He says Hebrews 9:14-17. Then you are Ephesians 1:12-14, 2 Timothy 2:19 and 2 Corinthians 1:22. Therefore, 1 Corinthians 9:2 just like Romans 15:28. Ephesians 4:30 and sing Psalms 49:8, 111:9, 130:7. In conclusion my fellow-believers, Paul is sealed 1 Corinthians 9:2 by God to be our apostle today. Weneedtoputtheworkof Paul not in vain Galatians 6:11. Paul tells us Romans 2:16, Romans 16:25, 2 Timothy 2:8. And the gospel is 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Then we are sealed Ephesians 1:13. Perhaps you are not understanding me because Revelation 18:4, Proverbs 20:1, Roman's 7:11, 1 Corinthians 6:9, 1 Corinthians 15:33, Galatians 6:7, 1 Timothy 2:14, 2 Timothy 3:13, Titus 3:3, and lastly Revelation 18:23. Psalm 37:1-40 then we meditate Psalms 27:1-3. Shalom/Agape.
They are the same; BUT,
Christ spoke other words ALSO:
And ALL CHRIST'S Words will COME TO PASS.
Ezekiel 18:31 Cast away from you all your transgressions; whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a NEW heart and a NEW spirit: for WHY WILL YE DIE, O house of Israel?
This QUESTION has to be ANSWERED: so we will ONLY DIE ONCE, and that DEATH happens while we stand on our own two feet.
Revelation 21:5 .....I make ALL THINGS NEW ....
So there will be a NEW MT. OLIVE: that is in NEW Jerusalem, a city made of LIVING stones, and a NEW temple therein.
This NEW PLACE, where God DWELLS is YOU.
Hebrews 9:27 For it is appointed to man ONCE TO DIE; but after this the JUDGEMENT.
Remember, ALL things have been made NEW.
Christ has BUILT a NEW HOUSE.
Hebrews 3:4 For every house is builded by some man; but he that build (ready done) ALL THINGS is God.
Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose HOUSE WE ARE ...the NEW house of God, where God dwells.
What is this NEW judgement.
1 Peter 4:17 FOR THE TIME IS COME (Christ second coming, as the Holy Ghost, to LIVE is his NEW house: YOU) that JUDGEMENT must begin at the (NEW) house of GOD.
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was once OFFERED (in the flesh) to bear the sins of many (first coming); and unto them who LOOK FOR HIM (the thief in the night) he shall APPEAR the SECOND TIME (second coming, like a thief in the night) without sin UNTO SALVATION.
This house, our body, already has someone; the spirit of deception, that old serpent the devil, living in it; so that inhabitant has to DIE to make way for the NEW:
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ...Christ in you ...
Matthew 12:28 But if I (the NEW man, Christ IN YOU) by the SPIRIT of GOD (TRUTH) cast out (kill, destroy) devils (the spirit of lies and deception, that live in MY HOUSE) then the Kingdom of God HAS COME TO YOU.
Remember ALL THINGS have been made NEW, but you CANNOT see them with eyes of flesh.
God Bless YOU, the body of Christ
The clearest verse in scripture is "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord." ( 2 Cor. 5:6). There are other verses such as Hebrews 9:27 stating that we are destined to die once then face the judgment. The distinction needs to be made between the body "qeber" in the original language describing the BODY and it's passions sleeping in the dust of the earth and "sheol" which is the underworld where all those who died used to go to until Psalm 68:18 and other verses show that "captivity was made captive."
Christ's sacrifice allowed the souls of the rightous to leave the pleasant side of Sheol (such as seen with the parable of Lazarus and the rich man in Luke 16:19-31) and go to heaven ( 1 Peter 3:18-20). His preaching to the wicked was a declaration or show of victory along with the righteous souls released; many of which appeared after His Resurrection. ( Matt. 27:53). This was a sort of "first" of the firstfruits of whom we will be a part after our living Head Christ went first bodily to heaven.
There are many other verses that could be quoted as well. Soul sleep just isn't scriptural.
Agape; Rich P.
I don't argue that the 24 elders are represantatives of both OT and NT time
a. May Daniel 12:1 refer only to the living Jews at that time and not the ones that died before Christ(?)
B The original text doesn't make things clearer that the English text
c. I agree with you that those with the white garments are lukerwarm christians that didn't make it in the rapture (the 5 unwise virgins), but not only these, they are also people that listened to the angel's preaching and didn't accept the mark of the beast and were consequently slaughtered. Yes, rapture is a reward, so lukermarm christians will have a second chance to make it into eternal life, but it would be extremely hard to withstand the great tribulation. Often a thing is ignored. If the belief that the Holly Spirit is who restrains the antichrist is right, and the HS goes together with the church in Heaven, that means that the gospel as we know it now will not be valid. There will not be any more new birth, nor Baptism in the Spirit, nor sanctification by the Spirit, nor any kind of help from God, a whole new situation for those who stay behind. Salvation will now be aquired by choosing sides, together or against the antichrist, accepting or not accepting the mark. So, can we claim that salvation can be lost, since many that will be left behind will eventually accept the mark?
d. 1 Cor 3:15 about those escaping destruction as through fire is something to be considered before the rapture. The reward will now be rule over nations during the millenium. As it is obvious that since the Spirit goes up, obedience to God's Laws is almost impossible, one escaping from his passions, sinful conditions, will be almost impossible too. Serving God will be also impossible, anything that we consider that increases our wage in Heaven now will be removed. So martyrdom is now the only way to get a reward.
e. Can Hebrews 9:27 be appilied to people like Lazarus who was resurrected by Jesus?. He eventually died twice.
Ezekiel 43:18
Joshua 22:28
Hebrews 8:5
Hebrews 9:19-24
Everything is a patterns of things in heavens to prepare the world for the great work done by The Lord Jesus Christ 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
Romans 3:25
1 John 2:2
2 John 4:10
You understand the blood shed by Jesus, you will believe, have faith, and trust in Jesus blood only. You cannot save or trust yourself. He will give you a Comforter to guide you to the Kingdom of God here on earth.
Glory to the powerful God always.
I understand that the Hebrews writer is emphasizing the one-time death of a person & its finality, with no further time afterwards to set the life straight before facing God's Judgement. To this end, the writer writes about Jesus suffering and dying just once (verse 26) and that our sins were borne by Him only once (verse 28), which was sufficient & acceptable to the Father & was able to fully redeem the repentant sinner. So the emphasis is not only on the one-time efficacious sacrifice of Jesus, but also that the sacrifice would never/could never be repeated. Unlike some in other Churches who through the 'sacraments' re-crucify the Lord enabling the emblems of bread & wine to be 'mystically' re-constituted into the actual body & blood of Jesus. This can never happen or else we subject Jesus "to an open shame" ( Hebrews 6:6).
So, we won't be able to "square 1 Thessalonians 4:17 with Hebrews 9:27, simply because these are two different matters. The first that living & dead believers in Christ will be caught up in the air to be with Jesus (the living not experiencing death), and the second matter, that because we are sinners & "the wages of sin is death (both physically & spiritually), then all men are subject to dying (an appointment we must all keep - unless the Lord comes first to snatch His Church away before the Wrath of God falls upon the Christ-rejecting World).
Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto man once to DIE; but after this the judgement.
This death happens by THE COMING OF THE LORD, HIM in YOU, his body.
This SECOND COMING cannot be seen: it comes like a thief in the night.
Hebrews 9:28 So Christ was ONCE OFFERED (first coming of Christ) to bear the sins of many; and to them who LOOK for him shall he appear a SECOND TIME (second coming CHRIST as the HOLY GHOST) without sin, UNTO SALVATION.
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming FIRE.
Revelation 9:18 By these was the THIRD PART of man KILLED (first death, not literal), by the FIRE, and the SMOKE, and the BRIMSTONE, which ISSUED OUT OF THEIR MOUTH.
All of us, THE DECEIVED, are KILLED, destroyed, by GOD'S WORD.
All that is LEFT is TRUTH and LIFE.
John 14:6 ....I AM TRUTH .....I AM LIFE ....
Ezekiel 5:2 Thou shall BURN WITH FIRE a THIRD PART .....
Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the THIRD PART through the FIRE ...
Zechariah 13:8 And it SHALL COME TO PASS, that in all the land, TWO PARTS shall be cut off and DIE (literal, go to the grave); but the THIRD PART shall BE LEFT (never see death) therein.
1 Thessalonians 4:17 Then we (that died the first death, that came to the truth of Christ's resurrection) SHALL REMAIN (having become ONE WITH TRUTH: CHRIST) and be CAUGHT UP together with THEM (the Old Testament Saints, resurrected with Christ) in the clouds (symbolic of God's Temple, the cloud was always over the tabernacle of the Old Covenant), to meet the Lord on the air, so shall we ever be (in the presence) with the Lord (the IMAGE OF CHRIST).
Zechariah 12:7 And the Lord shall save the tents of Judah FIRST (the Old Testament Saints; resurrected with Christ), that the GLORY of the HOUSE OF DAVID (those born again of TRUTH) and the glory of the house of Jerusalem (same people) do not magnify themselves against the house of Judah.
Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord God will DO NOTHING, but he revealeth his SECRET to his servants the Prophets.
The answer is yes, those who are raptured will not see physical death. So, if the rapture happens during our lifetime, we will not see physical death. Hebrews 9:27 does not fit with 1 Thessalonians 4:17. If we think about it, and if we had to wait for every person to physically die first, there would never be a rapture because someone is being born every day.
Is it that living, raptured believers will escape physical death?
Thanks.
Every year on the Day of Atonement, the high priest would enter into the Holy of Holies. He was the only one allowed to enter in. He would go in and sprinkle blood on the mercy seat. And that would be for the purpose of making atonement for his sin and also for others. This did not remove their sin. It was only a covering.
If you read through Hebrews Chapter 9, it talks about the superiority of the heavenly sanctuary and about Jesus now being our high priest.
Hebrews 9:1-10 talks about the worldly sanctuary. The sanctuary of Christ is in Verse 11, and we see the substance in verses 11 and 12. Verse 12 says, Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered in once into the holy place, (and that would be the holy of holies), just like the high priest, having obtained eternal redemption for us, once. And the blood He brought was His own. And He offered it once on behalf of all of us!
In Hebrews 9:13-14, the writer is making a comparison that the blood of bulls and goats is just a fleshly thing.
In the human, and flesh stands for human, but in the human, if you performed everything that God said under His law, then in the human you would be marked as fulfilling your duty. But your conscience isn't cleansed.
So the old sanctuary and its sacrifice did not purge or purify anyone. In the Old Testament, the blood of animals only covered sin. With Christ, everything is removed.
Scripture agrees with what Luke has spoken.
For one the law wasn't given to Gentiles it was given to Israel. I wasn't given to JUSTIFY anyone for salvation.
Galatians 5:4. "Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; YE ARE FALLEN FROM GRACE."
Here's a few scriptures to study:
Please don't just read these Scriptures, Study them!! These are very important Scriptures that is ignored by some. Understanding these scriptures can help keep one from being deceived atleast in this area anyway.
Galatians 3:1-29.
Galatians Ch 4 and 5.
2 Corinthians 3:6-14.
Also study.
Hebrews 8:1-13 and
Hebrews 9:1-28.
It's interesting what you will find in Hebrews when ministering the first covenant. It WASN'T about just being obedient to the 10 commandments, There were services that had to be performed to extreme precision.
There was the high priest that ministered THOSE services under THAT covenant in a WORLDLY sanctuary. The services had to be rendered perfectly but they couldn't make you perfect. They had no effect on the heart of man. Men heart is incurably wicked. The new covenant where Christ is the High priest He came to give you a new Heart and the REST that the old covenant couldn't give. Because no one could keep or be justified by the old covenant.
Why is it that those who desire to add their means of justifying themselves they choose what they think is the easiest to do and not realize in their lusty heart they break the commandments.
James 2:10.
Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart. Matthew 5:27-28.
Study those chapters.
God bless.
not talking about your nature birth/1st birth, but a second birth, which is spiritual, according to his will. The book of Acts is where the birth of New Testament/Jesus church begins, the Lord's disciples show how to do this, are first to obey this: Peter preached this first message to the Jews, later to all/non Jews.
Acts 2: 38: Repent, be baptized every one of you in
the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of your
sins(blood Jesus shed is applied/ Hebrews 9:22), and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
All books after Acts are written to the churches that are already born again, as Paul writes:
Romans 6: 1 - 6. Actually all of chapter 6.