The other day I heard about a falling out from a church I used to attend with a good friend of mine. It seems the Pastor only wanted to talk rather than hear what he had to say; and that there is a sort of mindset of exclusivity there in regard to it being the only genuine church denomination as my friend put it. The conversation is skewed by the fact that my friend tends to be very opinionated and rather vocal with an aggressive sort of personality.
I introduce this to say that a church can be increasingly legalistic; or on the contrary embrace the tidal wave of political correctness and hence be a Laodicean type church. in EITHER case I would dare say that a RELIGIOUS spirit can overtake people. There can exist the pride of performance; or the pride of the world and embracing all the damnable heresies in order to emphasize the "love" of God.
I have compared the end of the church "age" or "dispensation" with that of ancient Israel. We are reminded that God was to be worshipped in John 4:24 where the woman at the well was told that God was spirit and we must worship Him in spirit and truth.
The remnant always remains of true "Israel" (see Isaiah 10:20). There is also a confessing church and a small portion of them who are POSSESSING the Holy Spirit and thus truly children of God. It is not in a building; ordinances; catechisms and other structured parts of worship that in themselves have any meaning and indeed once we behold Him much of our current practices will be rendered as archaic and in the past. The end all of all things is heavenly treasure; and we are aliens and strangers on this earth. If we take our experience that we see with our five senses to heart without considering the unseen we are not going to progress. Yes; God uses local assemblies and our fellow believers to (hopefully) be discipled and grow together while enjoying legitimate blessings together of families and friends. But we look to the hope to come.
The key part to this verse that stands out to me in Isaiah 10:27 is "in that day"
Understanding when that day is or was unlocks that verse.
The day that Jesus died on the cross at Calvary is the day that the yoke was destroyed and the burden was removed. However, we receive what He did when we accept Him as our Lord and Savior.
Armageddon; and the ultimate end of Satan at the end of the Millennial reign of Christ is the ultimate conclusion of God's plan in using the enemy of our soul to purge the world of rebels and to end the power of death completely with a new heaven and earth (see 1 Cor. 15:26; Revelation 21 and 22).
Eternal punishment fits the crime so we can understand as wicked as things have been throughout human history it has stored up wrath for Satan as well as the unregenerate ( Romans 2:5 and subsequent verses in that chapter). The philosophy of "do as thou wilt" that is prominent among self proclaimed Satanists is contrasted with a sacrificial love that only Christ can offer. Everything seems backwards but the Lord has the master plan no matter how clever men and their devices are to destroy Christ (see Psalm 5:10; and read Psalm 2). Unregenerate man simply cannot understand how being a servant or slave of Christ brings men to freedom and how the opposite appeals to the flesh leave one in bondage in the end. They think we can somehow go back to Eden (as seen in the humanistic music of the 60's); but we see the result of this "free love" in the 70's and beyond with the rapid decay of traditional families in regard to sustainability of marriages and the removal of God's design for a family and harmonious home life. Whether Satan himself ever realized how wicked he would become is debateable; it would appear that Antichrist himself and or other rulers may not have realized this in verses such as Isaiah 10:7. The enemy always wants to sugarcoat the extreme jeopardy of man remaining in a sinful state by distracting him with grand delusions that lead nowhere but to destruction.
We see in Psalm 23:5 a verse on eating in the presence of enemies which indeed we will do during the Millennium when some inevitably will rebel at the end and insanely under Satan attempt one final time to destroy God and His people leading to failure.
Revelation 13:1-And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a (MAN) Beast rise up out of the sea,having 7 heads and 10 horns,and upon his horns ten crowns,and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Upon the SAND of the SEA?
Remember,John was one among the countless Jewish citzen(i.e. the sand of the sea,according to the Word of GOD- Isaiah 10:22:"For though thy people Israel be as the SAND of the SEA,yet a REMNANT of THEM shall return:the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness")
And how to interpret"SEA" in Rev.13:1?
Now,JESUS revealed that "The waters which thou sawest,where the whore sitteth,are peoples,and multitudes,and nations,and tongues".
INTERPRETING:
"and I saw a(MAN)Beast rise up out of the sea",
therefore,the MAN Beast is a Gentile Beast.
"HAVING 7 HEADS"
7 heads are 7 mountains,on which the woman-the Whore-sitteth.(the Whore rides upon the MAN Beast of sea,the Gentile Beast, in fact she rides upon the Papacy,millennial Popes;the 7 heads(mountains)are Europe,Asia,Africa,Oceania(Australia),North America,Central America,and South America,where the Whore sits or she is established as a whole.
"AND 10 HORNS"
10 horns is linked to the red Dragon- Revelation 12:3&9 combined with Re.13:11-14-,but how?First,one of the 7 heads of the Gentile MAN Beast will be wounded to death,but his deadly wound shall be healed.How?The red dragon shall give him his Power,and his Seat,and great Authority.The Gentile MAN Beast of sea will sit in the Throne of the Beast of the earth,the false messiah,in the holy city,in JERUSALEM,i.e.the Throne of the MAN Beast of the earth(Israel,as an isle in the sea).By the way,this is the most dream of the Pope,it will happen in the first half of the last week that will begin soon
AND UPON HIS HORNS 10 CROWNS
Symbol of the 10 tribes of Israel by which the MAN Beast of sea will be enthroned in the Holy City-Israel- Revelation 11:2 combined 13:4-9
This is likely because it is talking about God chastising his own (or His servants); He "scourges every son that He receives" as well as chastising them ( Hebrews 12:6). Better are the wounds of a friend than the kisses of an enemy ( Proverbs 27:6).
We see what appears in Luke to be a discussion of those fellowservants who are warning about the coming of the Lord and are "beaten by their fellow servants" ( Luke 12:45). We see that verse 39 and 46 indicate a house being "broken into" and verse 46 talks about being assigned in a place with the hypocrites and cut into pieces. That would be metaphorical language fitting into missing the Rapture; and going through the fire of the Tribulation from the way I see it.
Isaiah 10:5-6 discusses the "Assyrian" God's method of chastisement (one code word for Antichrist) who is used to judge a "hypocritical nation." Hence there is ample reason to at least ascribe this message to Israel as a rebellious nation who doesn't recognize their King until they realize that the one they trusted in turns against them.
There are ignorant people in churches today who God may still save or make their garments white in the Tribulation. Whether these are left behind believers or new believers as part of the witnessing campaign of the 144,000 it is martyrdom that is the test of all who truly believe in Christ. Those who know better and yet are truly His own of course (as with teachers) have a greater responsibility; hence the Lord will have to deal with them more harshly. I look at the Tribulation as being a massive campaign by God for fruit production; which He will get one way or another to His satisfaction. The word Tribulation apparently is related to "Tribulum" or the wheat being ripened and harvested rapidly in the blistering sun. It is good to look at such events in relation to the big picture; the worst persecution brings the greatest glory; and will be used to turn Israel back to the true Savior ( Zech 12:12; Rev. 1:7).
Man is God's INSTRUMENTS, he does all the WORK'S of God through man.
Man just does not have the KNOWLEDGE to believe God is doing EVERYTHING, through man.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Jeremiah 51:20 Thou (man) are MY (God's) weapons of WAR ......
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod (weapon) of MY (God) anger, and the staff (weapon) in thy hand is MY (GOD) indignation ...
Isaiah 45:1 ...to Cyrus, whose right hand I (God) have holden, to SUBDUE NATIONS .....
Daniel 4:34 ..... and MY UNDERSTANDING RETURNED .....
Daniel 4:35 ....and he (God) doeth according to HIS (God) WILL ..... among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
God had a purpose for Aaron, also a purpose for those that perished, Aaron also DIED, just a differennt APPOINTED time.
God knows what he is doing and EVIL always works to GOOD.
Genesis 50:20 ....you thought EVIL against me, but God meant it for GOOD ..... to keep many people ALIVE .....
Judas betrayed Christ; EVIL, the Father meant that betrayal for GOOD: to keep all people ALIVE in Christ Jesus ....
Hosea 4:6 My people perish FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE .....
Damascus was a place mentioned several times in Old Testament, Genesis 14:15, Genesis 15:2, 2Samuel 8:5,6, 1Kings 11:1-25, 1Kings 19:14-18, 1Kings 20, 2Chronicles 16,
Isaiah 7:8,9, Isaiah 8:4, Isaiah 10:9, Isaiah 17, James 1:5,
In the New Testament it's the road to Damascus was the place of Saul's conversion to Paul: Acts 9, Acts 22, Acts 26, it's symbolic to many Christians as a turning point in Christian faith.
Lamentations 2:11 and associated passages discuss tears when the Babylonian captivity and it's horrors of stervation and destruction by fire of Jerusalem occur which is much like the theme here.
In terms of being as a vine (v. 8) we see such depictions of Israel in John 15:8 as well as Ezekiel and apparently Psalm 88 as well. Verses 10 to 12 also describe great branches such as a cedar (v. 10) which is also descriptive of other nations such as Lebanon which is compared to a cedar in no less than 100 verses in scripture. Trees also describe Egypt ( Ezekiel 31:18) as well as Assyria as ( Isaiah 10:24) which was "planted" in Lebanon.
Once again as in the previous Psalm; we see evidence of a prophetic mention of the city being burned (verse 16) signifying the Babylonian captivity. Verse 17 seems to indicate Christ as a possible man at the "man of thy right hand" made strong. Quickening the people in verse 18 could signify the Resurrection; or restoration at the end of the Tribulation. The idea of God awakening reminds us of Isaiah 54:7-9 where God briefly turns away; again possibly signifying Jacob's trouble.
Like many times, in our current world: when things go as it's supposed to, not much is mentioned but when it's going wrong, much more said. There was much wrong mentioned about wrongly leaving out Widows, Fatherless children, etc. Matthew 23:14, Mark 12:40, Luke 20:47, Job 22:9, Acts 6:1, Isaiah 10:2 please read in context, by reading all verses around the verses given, so you have the "whole story". They also were judged because of that * Malachi 2:17, Malachi 3:5, Deuteronomy 27:19
1Timothy 5, 1Corinthians 7, Deuteronomy 24:17,
I believe the Rules/Laws GOD gave forth to Moses for the Israelites was the ideal plan. These rules weren't not for "the rebellious nations, surrounding" probably because they may just disregard anyway.
I believe it's good if we look into the Laws & consider sincerely what we can apply today. Deuteronomy 14:29, Deuteronomy 16, we should share in our increase ( abundance ) Deuteronomy 24:19,20,21, elimination of greed, in every area
Deuteronomy 10:18,
James 1:27 , Matthew 25:35-41, Deuteronomy 26:13,14,
Numbers 1:49, Isaiah 10:21, I believe there are multiple places actually, 2Kings 19:30
In my spirit I felt the numbering of Israel was also, that may be why; even Joab who helped kill Urriah, 2Samuel 11:14-24, killed King David's son 2Samuel 18:14-17, took vengeance by killing others while going in for a hug, 2Samuel 20:9,10, 2Samuel 3:26-27 even that guy; feared GOD more than King David & refused to "number Levi ...." 1Chronicles 21:1-8,
Introduction: I am attempting after years of study to give a proper examination of the doctrine of election; associated with the 5 points of Calvin; or what some call the "grace gospel." Ultimately; this is to demonstrate that we cannot save ourselves; it requires Divine intervention. From my viewpoint; this does NOT negate human choices as it were as God in this fallen world always has worked around the circumstances that even His saints have lived in who often should know better; not to mention the kings and those in authority. It is not the constraints on men in this lifetime that should be the focus; although there are limits to God's patience but it is the will of God which is accomplished no matter how much Satan and wicked men work against Him. Thus; He allows the sin of a nation to come to the full before judgment ( Gen. 15:16). He has set times and seasons; and is indeed the Alpha and Omega ( Rev. 21:6-7).
Before getting into scriptures specifically in the Book of John (this forum isn't meant for more than an overview rather than an extensive study) which prove God predestines all those who will come to the faith and hence be saved I wanted to make a few points. First of all; the argument of "what about those who have never heard the Gospel" is not as solid as it may seem. To assume that only those who are in a society that teaches Biblical truth to recieve it; and assumes that others who don't hear it are left out need only go to Abraham being called OUT of Ur of the Chaldees to the land of Promise and follow the true God.
The Exodus took His people to a new land; but only a remnant of Israel was true Israel ( Romans 9:24-29). This is also demonstrated in the O.T. We see the same principle in Isaiah 10:20-23 for the future of the nation of Israel; and also with the church ( Matt. 13:24-30).
Finally; there is a process which determines or proves our spiritual condition set forth for all men.
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD that WORKETH in you TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Most DON'T BELIEVE these WORD'S of God.
Do you believe that everything being done, IN YOU and BY YOU, is God's will and is God's work.
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of my anger, and the staff in their hand is my indignation.
Isaiah 10:6 And I WILL send him against a hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath WILL I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and tread them down like the mire in the streets.
Isaiah 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed HIS WHOLE WORK upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I WILL punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
Isaiah 10:13 For he saith, by the strength of MY HAND I HAVE DONE IT .......
God didn't punish the king for stealing, raping the women, dashing the children against the streets, and killing men:
He punished him because he thought HE DID IT instead of UNDERSTANDING it was THE WORK'S of GOD through his hand.
TRUTH:
We are the vessel; Christ is the LIFE, TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Not believing these words causes us to walk in disobedience.
The sins of the flesh are covered by the blood of Christ; NOT BELIEVING his WORDS keeps us from being ONE.
Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY (man) and ONE SPIRIT (Life and Truth).
2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he (the LORD) moved (caused) David against them to say, Go, number Israel.
1 Chronicles 21:2 And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked (caused) David to number Israel.
Same event in the history of Israel; yet one says Satan caused, and one says the LORD caused.
Isaiah 54:16 Behold, I (the Father) have created the smith (Christ) that bloweth the coals in the FIRE (our God is a consuming FIRE), and that bringeth forth an instrument (Satan) for his (Christ) WORK; and I (the Lord) have CREATED the waster (SATAN) to destroy (destruction of the flesh).
1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such a one to SATAN for the DESTRUCTION OF THE FLESH, that the spirit might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
God does EVERYTHING through the hands of men, God brings his judgements on earth through the hands of men.
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of MINE (God's) anger, and the staff in their (Assyria) hand is MINE (God's) indignation.
Isaiah 10:6 I (God) will send him (Assyria) against a hypocritical nation (Israel), and against the people of my wrath will I (God) give him (Assyria) a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the street.
Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD'S HAND .......
In the past I've used that analogy of the puzzle pieces. The Gospel paints a picture starting from Genesis.
The problem often comes when one have a picture in mind and try to fit pieces of the puzzles together that don't belong so they have to reshape the surrounding pieces to there liking, usually by spritualizing all the pieces/scripture, or they take one piece of a puzzle/scripture that represents their picture and try to fit it in a 1000 piece puzzle that it doesn't belong to, so they reshape the 1000 pieces by spritualizing.
Here's an example.
Who's the writer referring to here?
"Therefore my people" are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
Isaiah 5:13.
I've heard it taught that this was all of creation. ( A piece of puzzle that don't even fit the chapter or anywhere else in the 66 books. )
But if they would let the scripture say what it is saying you would find the answer throughout the chapter, especially verse 7.
"For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry"
Isaiah 5:7.
Here's just a few of many other puzzle pieces.
Exodus 3:10.
Exodus 5:1.
Exodus 8:23.
Leviticus 26:12.
1 Samuel 2:28-29.
1 Kings 6:12-13.
Isaiah 1:3.
Isaiah 10:24.
Isaiah 14:25.
Jeremiah 1:16.
Jeremiah 2:11.
Ezekiel 11:20.
Ect...
There's hundreds that reference Isaiah 5:13. to Israel!!
And Hosea 2:23 suggests God's not done with them. Also Romans 11:1.
God is in the generation of the righteous. Psalms 14:5.
We become his people by seeking him, not everyone will do this.
Zachariah gives a distinction between between the heathen nations and God's people. Zachariah 8:7.
Another distinction.
Mathew 7:21-23. You can't be his people and he not know you.
Brother Rick, what do you believe is God's definition of GRACE and MERCY.
Are you not saved by God's works. Do you believe you have any part in your salvation.
God's word says it's all his works and none of our own ( Psalms 92:4-6)
We ALL KILLED CHRIST, yet he FORGAVE US and SAVED US.
Why wouldn't his grace and mercy extent to all MURDERERS, does the number of people one kills make one more guilty. David killed numerous, yet God said he was a man after his own heart.
David was a VESSEL, CHOSEN to fulfill the WORK'S of GOD, a vessel of honour, other are CHOSEN to fulfill the WORK's of God by being vessels of dishonour,
All is of GOD. God WILL SAVED the vessels of dishonour also, because they had no choice in GOD'S PURPOSE for creation.
Those that are saying LORD, LORD, DID WE NOT, are the ones that did't believe ALL WORKS are of GOD, we are just the axe in the hand of the Lord. ( Isaiah 10:15)
Dgjot, ask the Spirit to give you spiritual eyes instead of natural eyes.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing, THE WORDS (Christ is the WORD) that I speak unto you, they (the words, Christ) are SPIRIT, and they (the words, Christ) are LIFE.
...the fearful...unbelieving...murderers (if you hate your brother, you are a murderer ( 1 John 3:15)....
Shall have their part in the lake of fire (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST)
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST)
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery.... CHRIST IN YOU....(living lake of fire) you are IN IT NOW.
Isaiah 10:16 ...and under his glory (you are the glory of God) he shall kindle a BURNING like the burning of a FIRE (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST).
Everyone is going to be judged in the WORDS ( in Christ, in the Fire (lake of)
The fire burns the trash and purifies you.
The fire is GOOD and necessary.
The fearful no longer fear, the unbelieving, BELIEVE, you love you enemies.
Sister Diane, one of your comments implied you study the New Testament more than the Old Testament.
On of the greatest truths of God's sovereignty and man foolish worldly wisdom that he possess FREE WILL is in Isaiah 10:5-23
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian the rod of MINE anger, and the staff in THEIR hand is MINE indignation.
God is using a nation and it's people for his judgements.
Isaiah 10:6 For I WILL SEND him against a hypocritical nation, and against the people of MY WRATH will I give him a charge, to take a prey, and to tread them down like mire of the streets.
These people are going to kill, possibly rape, steal, and destroy other people. And God is the one CAUSING them to do so.
Isaiah 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath PERFORMED HIS whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will PUNISH the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
Isaiah 10:13 For he saith, By the strength of mine hand I HAVE DONE IT, and by my wisdom, for I am prudent ...
Notice that God didn't say he was going to punish the king because he killed, and stole and raped and destroyed other people; but, God was going to punish the king because he took credit and thought it was his works.
God is no different today, he uses people to do HIS WORK and then punishes them because they took credit; NOT KNOWING ALL WORKS ARE OF GOD were are just the axe in GOD'S HAND.
Isaiah 10:15 Shall the axe BOOST ITSELF against him (GOD) that heweth therewith?
Brother David, May CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
The scriptures and meaning behind those scriptures I quoted to you are in DIRECT OPPOSITION to there being a LITERAL HELL.
So EACH has to be reconciled to each other through scripture.
Scripture says those in the first resurrection (resurrected with Christ) will not see death but will be instantly in the presence of Christ, in Spirit, with a glorified body.
Scripture says those in the second resurrection will be raise back in their sinful flesh and cast alive into the lake of fire.
If the lake of fire is LITERAL FIRE those thrown into it alive will LITERAL DIE within seconds. Therefore there would be no nations to rule and judge in the ages to come. This doesn't reconcile our two different scriptures.
If the lake of fire represents the judgement IN CHRIST who is a consuming FIRE, then the two scriptures reconcile with each other.
Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of Host, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory (priest) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.
Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purge the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst (CHRIST IN YOU) thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.
Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not delivery themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to set before it.
This is also spiritual fire from the fact you can't warm yourself from it. The ones in the first resurrection also have to go through this fire.
Mark 4:49 And everyone shall be salted with FIRE.
Matthew 3:11 ....he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost and FIRE.
Brother Carleton, I don't know what anabaptist teach. I was raised with the doctrines taught by southern baptist. Through thousands of hours studying the scriptures and begging Christ to show me the meaning; I no longer adhere to the doctrine of hell, and that man has FREE WILL and goes to an abode called heaven.
The word of God CAN NOT contradict. Hundreds of verses says all creation will obey and worship God.
A literal hell makes these words a lie; but Spiritual FIRE and Spiritual JUDGEMENT don't CONTRADICT.
Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of host, send among his fat ones a leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a BURNING like the burning of a FIRE.
Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT, and by the SPIRIT OF BURNING.
May CHRIST CAUSE us walk in the WORDS of GOD.
Isaiah 63:17 O Lord why has THOU MADE US TO ERR from thy ways, and hardened our hearts from thy fear? Return for thy servants' sake, the tribe of thine inheritance.
Darren, may the spirit grace you with his wisdom and his knowledge.
no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.
revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.
revelation is completely symbolic.
isaiah 9:5 now every (natural) battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
isaiah 9:19 ....and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire....
isaiah 4:4 when the lord (a consuming fire hebrews 12:29) shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of (new) zion, and shall have purged the blood of (new) jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgement and the spirit of burning.
luke 12:49 i am come to send fire on the earth; and what be i (the fire), if it (the fire) be kindled already?
matthew 4:11 ....he shall baptize you with the holy spirit and with fire;
isaiah 9:18 for wickedness burneth as the fire (our god is a consuming fire).....
isaiah 10:16 .... and under his glory (us) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.
isaiah 24:15 wherefore glorify ye the lord in the fires ....
isaiah 31:9 ....whose fire is in (new) zion, and his furnace in (new) jerusalem.
isaiah 33:14 .....who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burning?
where the fire is never quenched (our god is a consuming fire)
isaiah 42:25 therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle; and it (the battle) hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it (the battle) burned him, and he laid it not to heart.
ezekiel 5:2 thou shall burn with fire a third part in the midst of the (new jerusalem, christ in you).....
zachariah 13:9 and i will bring the third part through the fire ....
revelation 8:1-13
revelation 9:18 by these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire...brimstone...smoke....
Listening To The Wrong Voices on Psalms 2 - 4 years ago
Today you may want to take a look at the ALCJ dot com website and consider the petitions that need signatures; regarding various issues; some of them concerning CHURCH FREEDOMS.
If we neglect to use our support of Issues concerning Church and our freedoms under constitutional law, to worship and assemble: there will be no one to blame except ourselves.
The Church can't Arise and lift up the Standard against the enemies of our soul, if we don't draw together as the Body of Christ, stand on our most holy Faith against the evil encroaching upon this nation...and say NO with our signature.
The simplicity of the Woes is this= if we don't obey Gods known will in our lives, we'll suffer the woes. It takes CORPORATE PRAYER of Christians, to please God and turn back to Him, quickly. Agree with Him!
Stop listening to the voices of unchurched FOOLS. (Nat'l TV)
If we listen to fools, ascribe to what they put forth..... and we NEGLECT to check the Bible to see what GOD says about it ???
Our nation is due for some Reaping of the things we sowed for. Stop turning deaf ears and blind eyes to Gods Word.
There is no thing such as basic "Fire Insurance" as a, "Get Out Of Hell" free card." It cost Jesus His life to pay for our sins. Turn back to Him, and He will turn back to hearing your petitions; prayers.
Satan can play the politics game too. If you can't discern that "voice", you build your house on quicksand. That's why the 'WOEs' are in the Bible. Turn back to God and he will welcome your return. If you feel "less than blessed", you need to assess your life and figure out WHEN you strayed off course.
Spiritual warfare against your MIND happens when it's not full of Bible and faith in what God says; and in what Jesus did for us. Kick satans lying demons out of your head !!
Jesus is God is not a figure of speech 1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. GOD WITH US.
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE
How many parts is God? 3? a Godhead? or trinity?
1 Thessalonians 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)
Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)
Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.
Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, ....
The five smooth stones are part of a Rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:4) i.e. Jesus Christ . So Jesus Christ is nothing but word of God ( John 1:1 & 14). Matthew 21:44 Its a weapon and Lord has given us spiritual weapon to fight against all demonic powers against us. They are 1. Faith : Hebrew 11:1,6 Hebrews 12:2, Galatians 5:22(F.O.S), 1 Corinthians 12:9(G.O.S) Ephesians 6:16(A.O.G), Matthew 17:20 2.Word of God: John 1:1, Psalms 107:20, Isaiah 55:11, Hebrews 4:12 3. Prayer : Jeremiah 33:3, Matthew 17:21 4. Anointing : Isaiah 10:27, 5. Obedience : 1 Samuel 15:22. If we have this five spiritual smooth stones which formed from Jesus , we can overcome this world. ( 1 John 5:4). David had faith in the Lord and put it into action, also had the special horn anointing to break all the yolks by obeying to the voice of the God. David was a man of prayer. Big things comes in small packages. Victory is ours.
The five smooth stones are part of a Rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:4) i.e. Jesus Christ . So Jesus Christ is nothing but word of God ( John 1:1 & 14). Matthew 21:44 Its a weapon and Lord has given us spiritual weapon to fight against all demonic powers against us. They are 1. Faith : Hebrew 11:1,6 Hebrews 12:2, Galatians 5:22(F.O.S), 1 Corinthians 12:9(G.O.S) Ephesians 6:16(A.O.G), Matthew 17:20 2.Word of God: John 1:1, Psalms 107:20, Isaiah 55:11, Hebrews 4:12 3. Prayer : Jeremiah 33:3, Matthew 17:21 4. Anointing : Isaiah 10:27, 5. Obedience : 1 Samuel 15:22. If we have this five spiritual smooth stones which formed from Jesus , we can overcome this world. ( 1 John 5:4). David had faith in the Lord and put it into action, also had the special horn anointing to break all the yolks by obeying to the voice of the God. David was a man of prayer. Big things comes in small packages. Victory is ours. Let God's name alone glorified,
questions for a oneness or watchtower (Jehovah's witless) devotee
1 Thess 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)
Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)
Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.
Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
.... dividing asunder of soul and spirit, (the word of God divides the soul and spirit)
so the Bible ALONE teaches man has a body and a soul and a spirit = 3 parts = 1 man
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE
1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
...God was manifest in the flesh...
Trinity is not a Bible word, but Godhead is Are the body, soul and spirit are the same thing
questions for a oneness devotee
1 Thess 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)
Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)
Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.
Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit,...
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE?
The other day I heard about a falling out from a church I used to attend with a good friend of mine. It seems the Pastor only wanted to talk rather than hear what he had to say; and that there is a sort of mindset of exclusivity there in regard to it being the only genuine church denomination as my friend put it. The conversation is skewed by the fact that my friend tends to be very opinionated and rather vocal with an aggressive sort of personality.
I introduce this to say that a church can be increasingly legalistic; or on the contrary embrace the tidal wave of political correctness and hence be a Laodicean type church. in EITHER case I would dare say that a RELIGIOUS spirit can overtake people. There can exist the pride of performance; or the pride of the world and embracing all the damnable heresies in order to emphasize the "love" of God.
I have compared the end of the church "age" or "dispensation" with that of ancient Israel. We are reminded that God was to be worshipped in John 4:24 where the woman at the well was told that God was spirit and we must worship Him in spirit and truth.
The remnant always remains of true "Israel" (see Isaiah 10:20). There is also a confessing church and a small portion of them who are POSSESSING the Holy Spirit and thus truly children of God. It is not in a building; ordinances; catechisms and other structured parts of worship that in themselves have any meaning and indeed once we behold Him much of our current practices will be rendered as archaic and in the past. The end all of all things is heavenly treasure; and we are aliens and strangers on this earth. If we take our experience that we see with our five senses to heart without considering the unseen we are not going to progress. Yes; God uses local assemblies and our fellow believers to (hopefully) be discipled and grow together while enjoying legitimate blessings together of families and friends. But we look to the hope to come.
Understanding when that day is or was unlocks that verse.
The day that Jesus died on the cross at Calvary is the day that the yoke was destroyed and the burden was removed. However, we receive what He did when we accept Him as our Lord and Savior.
Armageddon; and the ultimate end of Satan at the end of the Millennial reign of Christ is the ultimate conclusion of God's plan in using the enemy of our soul to purge the world of rebels and to end the power of death completely with a new heaven and earth (see 1 Cor. 15:26; Revelation 21 and 22).
Eternal punishment fits the crime so we can understand as wicked as things have been throughout human history it has stored up wrath for Satan as well as the unregenerate ( Romans 2:5 and subsequent verses in that chapter). The philosophy of "do as thou wilt" that is prominent among self proclaimed Satanists is contrasted with a sacrificial love that only Christ can offer. Everything seems backwards but the Lord has the master plan no matter how clever men and their devices are to destroy Christ (see Psalm 5:10; and read Psalm 2). Unregenerate man simply cannot understand how being a servant or slave of Christ brings men to freedom and how the opposite appeals to the flesh leave one in bondage in the end. They think we can somehow go back to Eden (as seen in the humanistic music of the 60's); but we see the result of this "free love" in the 70's and beyond with the rapid decay of traditional families in regard to sustainability of marriages and the removal of God's design for a family and harmonious home life. Whether Satan himself ever realized how wicked he would become is debateable; it would appear that Antichrist himself and or other rulers may not have realized this in verses such as Isaiah 10:7. The enemy always wants to sugarcoat the extreme jeopardy of man remaining in a sinful state by distracting him with grand delusions that lead nowhere but to destruction.
We see in Psalm 23:5 a verse on eating in the presence of enemies which indeed we will do during the Millennium when some inevitably will rebel at the end and insanely under Satan attempt one final time to destroy God and His people leading to failure.
Upon the SAND of the SEA?
Remember,John was one among the countless Jewish citzen(i.e. the sand of the sea,according to the Word of GOD- Isaiah 10:22:"For though thy people Israel be as the SAND of the SEA,yet a REMNANT of THEM shall return:the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness")
And how to interpret"SEA" in Rev.13:1?
Now,JESUS revealed that "The waters which thou sawest,where the whore sitteth,are peoples,and multitudes,and nations,and tongues".
INTERPRETING:
"and I saw a(MAN)Beast rise up out of the sea",
therefore,the MAN Beast is a Gentile Beast.
"HAVING 7 HEADS"
7 heads are 7 mountains,on which the woman-the Whore-sitteth.(the Whore rides upon the MAN Beast of sea,the Gentile Beast, in fact she rides upon the Papacy,millennial Popes;the 7 heads(mountains)are Europe,Asia,Africa,Oceania(Australia),North America,Central America,and South America,where the Whore sits or she is established as a whole.
"AND 10 HORNS"
10 horns is linked to the red Dragon- Revelation 12:3&9 combined with Re.13:11-14-,but how?First,one of the 7 heads of the Gentile MAN Beast will be wounded to death,but his deadly wound shall be healed.How?The red dragon shall give him his Power,and his Seat,and great Authority.The Gentile MAN Beast of sea will sit in the Throne of the Beast of the earth,the false messiah,in the holy city,in JERUSALEM,i.e.the Throne of the MAN Beast of the earth(Israel,as an isle in the sea).By the way,this is the most dream of the Pope,it will happen in the first half of the last week that will begin soon
AND UPON HIS HORNS 10 CROWNS
Symbol of the 10 tribes of Israel by which the MAN Beast of sea will be enthroned in the Holy City-Israel- Revelation 11:2 combined 13:4-9
UPON HIS 7 HEADS A NAME OF BLASPHEMY
Will be name of last Pope?
Getready
We see what appears in Luke to be a discussion of those fellowservants who are warning about the coming of the Lord and are "beaten by their fellow servants" ( Luke 12:45). We see that verse 39 and 46 indicate a house being "broken into" and verse 46 talks about being assigned in a place with the hypocrites and cut into pieces. That would be metaphorical language fitting into missing the Rapture; and going through the fire of the Tribulation from the way I see it.
Isaiah 10:5-6 discusses the "Assyrian" God's method of chastisement (one code word for Antichrist) who is used to judge a "hypocritical nation." Hence there is ample reason to at least ascribe this message to Israel as a rebellious nation who doesn't recognize their King until they realize that the one they trusted in turns against them.
There are ignorant people in churches today who God may still save or make their garments white in the Tribulation. Whether these are left behind believers or new believers as part of the witnessing campaign of the 144,000 it is martyrdom that is the test of all who truly believe in Christ. Those who know better and yet are truly His own of course (as with teachers) have a greater responsibility; hence the Lord will have to deal with them more harshly. I look at the Tribulation as being a massive campaign by God for fruit production; which He will get one way or another to His satisfaction. The word Tribulation apparently is related to "Tribulum" or the wheat being ripened and harvested rapidly in the blistering sun. It is good to look at such events in relation to the big picture; the worst persecution brings the greatest glory; and will be used to turn Israel back to the true Savior ( Zech 12:12; Rev. 1:7).
Man is God's INSTRUMENTS, he does all the WORK'S of God through man.
Man just does not have the KNOWLEDGE to believe God is doing EVERYTHING, through man.
Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Jeremiah 51:20 Thou (man) are MY (God's) weapons of WAR ......
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod (weapon) of MY (God) anger, and the staff (weapon) in thy hand is MY (GOD) indignation ...
Isaiah 45:1 ...to Cyrus, whose right hand I (God) have holden, to SUBDUE NATIONS .....
Daniel 4:34 ..... and MY UNDERSTANDING RETURNED .....
Daniel 4:35 ....and he (God) doeth according to HIS (God) WILL ..... among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay his hand, or say unto him, What doest thou?
God had a purpose for Aaron, also a purpose for those that perished, Aaron also DIED, just a differennt APPOINTED time.
God knows what he is doing and EVIL always works to GOOD.
Genesis 50:20 ....you thought EVIL against me, but God meant it for GOOD ..... to keep many people ALIVE .....
Judas betrayed Christ; EVIL, the Father meant that betrayal for GOOD: to keep all people ALIVE in Christ Jesus ....
Hosea 4:6 My people perish FOR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE .....
God Bless YOU!
2Kings 5,
2Kings 8, notice 2Kings 8:12,13, 2Chronicles 24:23, 2Chronicles 28:5,23,
Isaiah 7:8,9, Isaiah 8:4, Isaiah 10:9, Isaiah 17, James 1:5,
In the New Testament it's the road to Damascus was the place of Saul's conversion to Paul: Acts 9, Acts 22, Acts 26, it's symbolic to many Christians as a turning point in Christian faith.
Hopefully these are helpful in your study
Lamentations 2:11 and associated passages discuss tears when the Babylonian captivity and it's horrors of stervation and destruction by fire of Jerusalem occur which is much like the theme here.
In terms of being as a vine (v. 8) we see such depictions of Israel in John 15:8 as well as Ezekiel and apparently Psalm 88 as well. Verses 10 to 12 also describe great branches such as a cedar (v. 10) which is also descriptive of other nations such as Lebanon which is compared to a cedar in no less than 100 verses in scripture. Trees also describe Egypt ( Ezekiel 31:18) as well as Assyria as ( Isaiah 10:24) which was "planted" in Lebanon.
Once again as in the previous Psalm; we see evidence of a prophetic mention of the city being burned (verse 16) signifying the Babylonian captivity. Verse 17 seems to indicate Christ as a possible man at the "man of thy right hand" made strong. Quickening the people in verse 18 could signify the Resurrection; or restoration at the end of the Tribulation. The idea of God awakening reminds us of Isaiah 54:7-9 where God briefly turns away; again possibly signifying Jacob's trouble.
1Timothy 5, 1Corinthians 7, Deuteronomy 24:17,
I believe the Rules/Laws GOD gave forth to Moses for the Israelites was the ideal plan. These rules weren't not for "the rebellious nations, surrounding" probably because they may just disregard anyway.
I believe it's good if we look into the Laws & consider sincerely what we can apply today. Deuteronomy 14:29, Deuteronomy 16, we should share in our increase ( abundance ) Deuteronomy 24:19,20,21, elimination of greed, in every area
Deuteronomy 10:18,
James 1:27 , Matthew 25:35-41, Deuteronomy 26:13,14,
In my spirit I felt the numbering of Israel was also, that may be why; even Joab who helped kill Urriah, 2Samuel 11:14-24, killed King David's son 2Samuel 18:14-17, took vengeance by killing others while going in for a hug, 2Samuel 20:9,10, 2Samuel 3:26-27 even that guy; feared GOD more than King David & refused to "number Levi ...." 1Chronicles 21:1-8,
Introduction: I am attempting after years of study to give a proper examination of the doctrine of election; associated with the 5 points of Calvin; or what some call the "grace gospel." Ultimately; this is to demonstrate that we cannot save ourselves; it requires Divine intervention. From my viewpoint; this does NOT negate human choices as it were as God in this fallen world always has worked around the circumstances that even His saints have lived in who often should know better; not to mention the kings and those in authority. It is not the constraints on men in this lifetime that should be the focus; although there are limits to God's patience but it is the will of God which is accomplished no matter how much Satan and wicked men work against Him. Thus; He allows the sin of a nation to come to the full before judgment ( Gen. 15:16). He has set times and seasons; and is indeed the Alpha and Omega ( Rev. 21:6-7).
Before getting into scriptures specifically in the Book of John (this forum isn't meant for more than an overview rather than an extensive study) which prove God predestines all those who will come to the faith and hence be saved I wanted to make a few points. First of all; the argument of "what about those who have never heard the Gospel" is not as solid as it may seem. To assume that only those who are in a society that teaches Biblical truth to recieve it; and assumes that others who don't hear it are left out need only go to Abraham being called OUT of Ur of the Chaldees to the land of Promise and follow the true God.
The Exodus took His people to a new land; but only a remnant of Israel was true Israel ( Romans 9:24-29). This is also demonstrated in the O.T. We see the same principle in Isaiah 10:20-23 for the future of the nation of Israel; and also with the church ( Matt. 13:24-30).
Finally; there is a process which determines or proves our spiritual condition set forth for all men.
Rod: Exodus 4:17,
Job 9:34, Job 21:9, Psalms 2:9, Psalms 89:32, Psalms 125:3, Proverbs 10:13, Proverbs 13:24, Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 23:13,14, Proverbs 26:3,
Proverbs 29:15, Isaiah 9:4, Isaiah 10:5, Isaiah 10:15, Isaiah 10:26, Isaiah 11:1,4, Jeremiah 10:16, Revelation 12:25,
Staff: Genesis 32:10, Genesis 38:18, Exodus 12:17, Exodus 21:19, Leviticus 26:26, Numbers 13:23, Judges 6:21, 2Samuel 3:29, 2Samuel 23:7,21, 2Kings 4:29,31, 2Kings 18:21, Isaiah 3:1, Isaiah 14:5, Isaiah 28:27,
Hopefully these are helpful
What is DISOBEDIENCE:
Is it not, not believing what God says.
Not believing is disobedience.
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD that WORKETH in you TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Most DON'T BELIEVE these WORD'S of God.
Do you believe that everything being done, IN YOU and BY YOU, is God's will and is God's work.
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of my anger, and the staff in their hand is my indignation.
Isaiah 10:6 And I WILL send him against a hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath WILL I give him a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and tread them down like the mire in the streets.
Isaiah 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath performed HIS WHOLE WORK upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I WILL punish the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
Isaiah 10:13 For he saith, by the strength of MY HAND I HAVE DONE IT .......
God didn't punish the king for stealing, raping the women, dashing the children against the streets, and killing men:
He punished him because he thought HE DID IT instead of UNDERSTANDING it was THE WORK'S of GOD through his hand.
TRUTH:
We are the vessel; Christ is the LIFE, TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Not believing these words causes us to walk in disobedience.
The sins of the flesh are covered by the blood of Christ; NOT BELIEVING his WORDS keeps us from being ONE.
Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE BODY (man) and ONE SPIRIT (Life and Truth).
God Bless You!
2 Samuel 24:1 And again the anger of the LORD was kindled against Israel, and he (the LORD) moved (caused) David against them to say, Go, number Israel.
1 Chronicles 21:2 And SATAN stood up against Israel, and provoked (caused) David to number Israel.
Same event in the history of Israel; yet one says Satan caused, and one says the LORD caused.
Isaiah 54:16 Behold, I (the Father) have created the smith (Christ) that bloweth the coals in the FIRE (our God is a consuming FIRE), and that bringeth forth an instrument (Satan) for his (Christ) WORK; and I (the Lord) have CREATED the waster (SATAN) to destroy (destruction of the flesh).
1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such a one to SATAN for the DESTRUCTION OF THE FLESH, that the spirit might be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
God does EVERYTHING through the hands of men, God brings his judgements on earth through the hands of men.
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of MINE (God's) anger, and the staff in their (Assyria) hand is MINE (God's) indignation.
Isaiah 10:6 I (God) will send him (Assyria) against a hypocritical nation (Israel), and against the people of my wrath will I (God) give him (Assyria) a charge, to take the spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the street.
Jeremiah 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD'S HAND .......
Satan is an INSTRUMENT IN GOD'S HAND.
God Bless You
In the past I've used that analogy of the puzzle pieces. The Gospel paints a picture starting from Genesis.
The problem often comes when one have a picture in mind and try to fit pieces of the puzzles together that don't belong so they have to reshape the surrounding pieces to there liking, usually by spritualizing all the pieces/scripture, or they take one piece of a puzzle/scripture that represents their picture and try to fit it in a 1000 piece puzzle that it doesn't belong to, so they reshape the 1000 pieces by spritualizing.
Here's an example.
Who's the writer referring to here?
"Therefore my people" are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honourable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst.
Isaiah 5:13.
I've heard it taught that this was all of creation. ( A piece of puzzle that don't even fit the chapter or anywhere else in the 66 books. )
But if they would let the scripture say what it is saying you would find the answer throughout the chapter, especially verse 7.
"For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry"
Isaiah 5:7.
Here's just a few of many other puzzle pieces.
Exodus 3:10.
Exodus 5:1.
Exodus 8:23.
Leviticus 26:12.
1 Samuel 2:28-29.
1 Kings 6:12-13.
Isaiah 1:3.
Isaiah 10:24.
Isaiah 14:25.
Jeremiah 1:16.
Jeremiah 2:11.
Ezekiel 11:20.
Ect...
There's hundreds that reference Isaiah 5:13. to Israel!!
And Hosea 2:23 suggests God's not done with them. Also Romans 11:1.
God is in the generation of the righteous. Psalms 14:5.
We become his people by seeking him, not everyone will do this.
Zachariah gives a distinction between between the heathen nations and God's people. Zachariah 8:7.
Another distinction.
Mathew 7:21-23. You can't be his people and he not know you.
Heresies are built this way.
God bless.
Exodus 20:10, Leviticus 25:6, Deuteronomy 5:14, Amos 8:4-7,
Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:27, Jeremiah 5:28-29, Jeremiah 7:5-7, Jeremiah 22:3, Malachi 3:5,
Deuteronomy 14:28-29, Deuteronomy 16:10-14, Deuteronomy 24:17-21, Deuteronomy 26:10-19, Leviticus 23,
Isaiah 56, Matthew 12,
Hopefully these are helpful in your seeking of GOD's will & your walk
Are you not saved by God's works. Do you believe you have any part in your salvation.
God's word says it's all his works and none of our own ( Psalms 92:4-6)
We ALL KILLED CHRIST, yet he FORGAVE US and SAVED US.
Why wouldn't his grace and mercy extent to all MURDERERS, does the number of people one kills make one more guilty. David killed numerous, yet God said he was a man after his own heart.
David was a VESSEL, CHOSEN to fulfill the WORK'S of GOD, a vessel of honour, other are CHOSEN to fulfill the WORK's of God by being vessels of dishonour,
All is of GOD. God WILL SAVED the vessels of dishonour also, because they had no choice in GOD'S PURPOSE for creation.
Those that are saying LORD, LORD, DID WE NOT, are the ones that did't believe ALL WORKS are of GOD, we are just the axe in the hand of the Lord. ( Isaiah 10:15)
ALL God's desires and thoughts will COME TO PASS.
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian, the rod of my anger, and the staff in thy hand is my indignation.
Isaiah 10:6 I will SEND him ....
Isaiah 10:12 ....I will punish ... the king...
Isaiah 10:13 For he saith, By my hand I have done it ....
If you study this chapter and God causes you to understand, then you will have to agree with God that he does CAUSE man TO DO HIS WILL.
There is other examples if you study long enough.
John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing, THE WORDS (Christ is the WORD) that I speak unto you, they (the words, Christ) are SPIRIT, and they (the words, Christ) are LIFE.
...the fearful...unbelieving...murderers (if you hate your brother, you are a murderer ( 1 John 3:15)....
Shall have their part in the lake of fire (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST)
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST)
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery.... CHRIST IN YOU....(living lake of fire) you are IN IT NOW.
Isaiah 10:16 ...and under his glory (you are the glory of God) he shall kindle a BURNING like the burning of a FIRE (THE WORDS ARE CHRIST).
Everyone is going to be judged in the WORDS ( in Christ, in the Fire (lake of)
The fire burns the trash and purifies you.
The fire is GOOD and necessary.
The fearful no longer fear, the unbelieving, BELIEVE, you love you enemies.
Don't call GOOD (the lake of fire), EVIL.
On of the greatest truths of God's sovereignty and man foolish worldly wisdom that he possess FREE WILL is in Isaiah 10:5-23
Isaiah 10:5 O Assyrian the rod of MINE anger, and the staff in THEIR hand is MINE indignation.
God is using a nation and it's people for his judgements.
Isaiah 10:6 For I WILL SEND him against a hypocritical nation, and against the people of MY WRATH will I give him a charge, to take a prey, and to tread them down like mire of the streets.
These people are going to kill, possibly rape, steal, and destroy other people. And God is the one CAUSING them to do so.
Isaiah 10:12 Wherefore it shall come to pass, that when the Lord hath PERFORMED HIS whole work upon mount Zion and on Jerusalem, I will PUNISH the fruit of the stout heart of the king of Assyria, and the glory of his high looks.
Isaiah 10:13 For he saith, By the strength of mine hand I HAVE DONE IT, and by my wisdom, for I am prudent ...
Notice that God didn't say he was going to punish the king because he killed, and stole and raped and destroyed other people; but, God was going to punish the king because he took credit and thought it was his works.
God is no different today, he uses people to do HIS WORK and then punishes them because they took credit; NOT KNOWING ALL WORKS ARE OF GOD were are just the axe in GOD'S HAND.
Isaiah 10:15 Shall the axe BOOST ITSELF against him (GOD) that heweth therewith?
The scriptures and meaning behind those scriptures I quoted to you are in DIRECT OPPOSITION to there being a LITERAL HELL.
So EACH has to be reconciled to each other through scripture.
Scripture says those in the first resurrection (resurrected with Christ) will not see death but will be instantly in the presence of Christ, in Spirit, with a glorified body.
Scripture says those in the second resurrection will be raise back in their sinful flesh and cast alive into the lake of fire.
If the lake of fire is LITERAL FIRE those thrown into it alive will LITERAL DIE within seconds. Therefore there would be no nations to rule and judge in the ages to come. This doesn't reconcile our two different scriptures.
If the lake of fire represents the judgement IN CHRIST who is a consuming FIRE, then the two scriptures reconcile with each other.
Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of Host, send among his fat ones leanness; and under his glory (priest) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.
Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall have purge the blood of (new) Jerusalem from the midst (CHRIST IN YOU) thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT and the SPIRIT OF BURNING.
Isaiah 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not delivery themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at, nor fire to set before it.
This is also spiritual fire from the fact you can't warm yourself from it. The ones in the first resurrection also have to go through this fire.
Mark 4:49 And everyone shall be salted with FIRE.
Matthew 3:11 ....he shall baptise you with the Holy Ghost and FIRE.
The word of God CAN NOT contradict. Hundreds of verses says all creation will obey and worship God.
A literal hell makes these words a lie; but Spiritual FIRE and Spiritual JUDGEMENT don't CONTRADICT.
Isaiah 10:16 Therefore shall the Lord, the Lord of host, send among his fat ones a leanness; and under his glory he shall kindle a BURNING like the burning of a FIRE.
Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion, and shall purged the blood of Jerusalem from the midst thereof by the SPIRIT OF JUDGEMENT, and by the SPIRIT OF BURNING.
May CHRIST CAUSE us walk in the WORDS of GOD.
Isaiah 63:17 O Lord why has THOU MADE US TO ERR from thy ways, and hardened our hearts from thy fear? Return for thy servants' sake, the tribe of thine inheritance.
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no part of revelation is going to occur in the physical sense.
revelation is spiritual warfare for the kingdom of heaven.
revelation is completely symbolic.
isaiah 9:5 now every (natural) battle of the warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.
isaiah 9:19 ....and the people shall be as the fuel of the fire....
isaiah 4:4 when the lord (a consuming fire hebrews 12:29) shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of (new) zion, and shall have purged the blood of (new) jerusalem from the midst thereof by the spirit of judgement and the spirit of burning.
luke 12:49 i am come to send fire on the earth; and what be i (the fire), if it (the fire) be kindled already?
matthew 4:11 ....he shall baptize you with the holy spirit and with fire;
isaiah 9:18 for wickedness burneth as the fire (our god is a consuming fire).....
isaiah 10:16 .... and under his glory (us) he shall kindle a burning like the burning of a fire.
isaiah 24:15 wherefore glorify ye the lord in the fires ....
isaiah 31:9 ....whose fire is in (new) zion, and his furnace in (new) jerusalem.
isaiah 33:14 .....who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burning?
where the fire is never quenched (our god is a consuming fire)
isaiah 42:25 therefore he hath poured upon him the fury of his anger, and the strength of battle; and it (the battle) hath set him on fire round about, yet he knew not; and it (the battle) burned him, and he laid it not to heart.
ezekiel 5:2 thou shall burn with fire a third part in the midst of the (new jerusalem, christ in you).....
zachariah 13:9 and i will bring the third part through the fire ....
revelation 8:1-13
revelation 9:18 by these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire...brimstone...smoke....
hebrews 9:27
1 peter 4:17
If we neglect to use our support of Issues concerning Church and our freedoms under constitutional law, to worship and assemble: there will be no one to blame except ourselves.
The Church can't Arise and lift up the Standard against the enemies of our soul, if we don't draw together as the Body of Christ, stand on our most holy Faith against the evil encroaching upon this nation...and say NO with our signature.
Evil prevails when good people do nothing.
Consider the WOES that God warns us of in:
( Isaiah 3:11-12, Isaiah 5:8,11, Isaiah 20-23, Isaiah 6:5-10, Isaiah 10:1
The simplicity of the Woes is this= if we don't obey Gods known will in our lives, we'll suffer the woes. It takes CORPORATE PRAYER of Christians, to please God and turn back to Him, quickly. Agree with Him!
Stop listening to the voices of unchurched FOOLS. (Nat'l TV)
If we listen to fools, ascribe to what they put forth..... and we NEGLECT to check the Bible to see what GOD says about it ???
Our nation is due for some Reaping of the things we sowed for. Stop turning deaf ears and blind eyes to Gods Word.
There is no thing such as basic "Fire Insurance" as a, "Get Out Of Hell" free card." It cost Jesus His life to pay for our sins. Turn back to Him, and He will turn back to hearing your petitions; prayers.
Satan can play the politics game too. If you can't discern that "voice", you build your house on quicksand. That's why the 'WOEs' are in the Bible. Turn back to God and he will welcome your return. If you feel "less than blessed", you need to assess your life and figure out WHEN you strayed off course.
Spiritual warfare against your MIND happens when it's not full of Bible and faith in what God says; and in what Jesus did for us. Kick satans lying demons out of your head !!
Mishael
Matthew 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. GOD WITH US.
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE
How many parts is God? 3? a Godhead? or trinity?
1 Thessalonians 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)
Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)
Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.
Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, ....
The five smooth stones are part of a Rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:4) i.e. Jesus Christ . So Jesus Christ is nothing but word of God ( John 1:1 & 14). Matthew 21:44 Its a weapon and Lord has given us spiritual weapon to fight against all demonic powers against us. They are 1. Faith : Hebrew 11:1,6 Hebrews 12:2, Galatians 5:22(F.O.S), 1 Corinthians 12:9(G.O.S) Ephesians 6:16(A.O.G), Matthew 17:20 2.Word of God: John 1:1, Psalms 107:20, Isaiah 55:11, Hebrews 4:12 3. Prayer : Jeremiah 33:3, Matthew 17:21 4. Anointing : Isaiah 10:27, 5. Obedience : 1 Samuel 15:22. If we have this five spiritual smooth stones which formed from Jesus , we can overcome this world. ( 1 John 5:4). David had faith in the Lord and put it into action, also had the special horn anointing to break all the yolks by obeying to the voice of the God. David was a man of prayer. Big things comes in small packages. Victory is ours.
The five smooth stones are part of a Rock ( 1 Corinthians 10:4) i.e. Jesus Christ . So Jesus Christ is nothing but word of God ( John 1:1 & 14). Matthew 21:44 Its a weapon and Lord has given us spiritual weapon to fight against all demonic powers against us. They are 1. Faith : Hebrew 11:1,6 Hebrews 12:2, Galatians 5:22(F.O.S), 1 Corinthians 12:9(G.O.S) Ephesians 6:16(A.O.G), Matthew 17:20 2.Word of God: John 1:1, Psalms 107:20, Isaiah 55:11, Hebrews 4:12 3. Prayer : Jeremiah 33:3, Matthew 17:21 4. Anointing : Isaiah 10:27, 5. Obedience : 1 Samuel 15:22. If we have this five spiritual smooth stones which formed from Jesus , we can overcome this world. ( 1 John 5:4). David had faith in the Lord and put it into action, also had the special horn anointing to break all the yolks by obeying to the voice of the God. David was a man of prayer. Big things comes in small packages. Victory is ours. Let God's name alone glorified,
Amen.
Are the body, soul and spirit are the same thing
questions for a oneness or watchtower (Jehovah's witless) devotee
1 Thess 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)
Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)
Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.
Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
.... dividing asunder of soul and spirit, (the word of God divides the soul and spirit)
so the Bible ALONE teaches man has a body and a soul and a spirit = 3 parts = 1 man
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE
How many parts is God? 3? a Godhead? or trinity?
1 Timothy 3:16 "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory."
...God was manifest in the flesh...
Trinity is not a Bible word, but Godhead is Are the body, soul and spirit are the same thing
questions for a oneness devotee
1 Thess 5:23 - And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. (Paul says spirit and soul and body)
Isaiah 10:18 - And shall consume the glory of his forest, and of his fruitful field, both soul and body: and they shall be as when a standardbearer fainteth. (Body and Soul different)
Matthew 10:28 - Jesus said: And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. ..........destroy both soul and body in hell.
Isaiah 26:9 - With my soul have I desired thee in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I seek thee early: for when thy judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness. (Soul and Spirit are different)
Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit,...
Genesis 1:26 - And God said, Let US make man in our image, after OUR likeness
Genesis 1:27 - So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
Genesis 9:6 - Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man.
So IF one man is Body, Soul and Spirit which is 3 parts and God made man in HIS IMAGE?
How many parts is God? 3? a Godhead? or trinity?