Discuss Isaiah 14 Page 4

No. Adam gave his mandate over when he and Eve ate of the fruit of the Tree of Life.

God spoke of the Word to become flesh (future) in Genesis 3:15

"15 And I will put enmity between thee (Satan), and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it (Jesus Christ) shall bruise thy head (Satans legal power), and thou shalt bruise his heel. (the nail through Jesus's feet)."

When Jesus died for the sins of all mankind on the Cross, he fulfilled the Old Covenant, and ratified the New Covenant, with his blood sacrifice as the Lamb of God. Satan didn't know that or he would have prevented it.

Jesus was resurrected on the 3rd Day. Satan was stripped of the power he had stolen from First Adam. Second Adam is Jesus. Satan has no authority over Gods born again children. Only what we give him by sinning and not asking to be forgiven. 1 John.

Jesus descended into hell's prisons, took the KEYS of Death, Hell and the Grave; out of Satans hand. Then Jesus emptied hell.

The Godhead (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) live outside of Time; and they Live inside of Time.

"In Beginning," ( Gen. 1:1) is when God began the ticking of Time.

We might crab at God, "Why did YOU let this disaster happen?! God has a will, He gave free will to mankind to use for good or evil; as a Created being, Satan has an evil will. He does all the things we blame God for. Isaiah 14:12-16

We all need to remember that. Be wary and pray daily to God: Thy Will Be Done.

In Job, we see that Satan attacked Job's family first. He stirred up an F-5 tornado against them.

Let's be informed who is responsible for what.

God is Love, God is Good. He has made all Provision for us. He even gave His only begotten Son, so that we may live eternally, IF we accept Jesus as Savior and Lord? Take your SELF off the throne of your heart; and ask Jesus to be the Lord of your Life. Be conscious of WHO has your best interests in his heart. Amen?

Mishael

Considering how people speak to each other these days, I find this discussion on the word 'hello' a bit tedious.

Give NO PLACE to the devil.

In Texas we say Hi, Hey, Howdy, Hola, Nice to see you, Long time no see, Dude, Dudette, and numerous others.

I was saved out of the Occult. Satan loves for people to give him any kind of credence or glory. Isaiah 14:11 says that Satan is wormy. I saw a vision of hell. You don't want to see that! It's the definition of Terror; it is eternity of Waiting for the final Judgment and being cast into HELL.

Keep your eyes on Jesus and don't give "place" to Satan. If you think Halloween is a national holiday, you are deceived. If you have that stuff stored in your garage.. it's an open door for demons to make themselves at home.

If you're a Christian and you don't read your Bible; don't have a working knowledge of scripture, or are unable to memorize any scripture: demons can just walk into your house and torment you at your weakest points of entry.

Furnish YOU (your house) with deep layers of scripture. Ephesians 6. That's your SWORD!!

It's 2 edged. It cuts up the devils going in and coming out. It dispatches them to outer darkness IF you speak it? Believe me, "go on and quit picking on me", isn't going to get the demons out of your life.

Tearing apart a word like hello is not useful. Try ripping the head off a demon with a well placed "IT IS WRITTEN" (add a scripture).

They should run for the hills every time the feet of a child of God hits the floor each morning.

We have Jesus's AUTHORITY and Power to make them leave. Learn spiritual warfare. Parents Protect your kids.

That dusty Bible is the Sword of the Spirit. It's more lethal than any weapon available. To you gamers...spiritual warfare is the Real game of Thrones. Don't be deceived.

Has anyone ever done a Word study on the names of satan? Liar, Deceiver, Murderer, Adversary, Accuser, Serpent. Wicked One, Tempter, Afflictor

Hello Bro Barney,

Naturally, I disagree with your interpretation of the scripture and the assumptions made.

I believe the argument of once saved always saved contradicts itself. Here's how:

1. Someone believes God gave them freewill.

2. Someone believes all Christians are already 'saved' and that status never changes.

3. Then they are asked about Luke 12:10 blasphemy of the holy ghost.

4. They then claim it doesn't apply to Christians, that Christians can't, that they don't even have the freewill to sin, despite many documented cases of Christians doing exactly that both in the Bible and in the world today. Isaiah 14:12-14 shows that even angels in heaven have freewill to sin and blaspheme.

Christians still need to face judgment day like everyone else. Only after can someone be actually saved. If we genuinely follow Christ we can be assured of salvation, but the Bible warns us plenty of times to obey, to run the race, to persevere, to abide in the doctrine of Christ 2 John 1:8-9, it paints a much different picture than that I get from others who claim its ok to sin, that you can't sin, that you can be in the world and do whatever you want with zero penalty, and don't even have to worry about turning your back on Christ or blaspheming, because you can't do that. That's the opposite message of what Jesus said. Hebrews 6:4, John 14:15, Matthew 5:13, MATTHEW 7:23.

If once saved always saved is true, does that mean Christians can commit mass murder and still go to heaven? violence? rape? blasphemy? Or that their freewill is restricted so it's impossible for that to happen? Judas betrayed Jesus, and many Christians leave the faith and reject Jesus, unfortunately. There's a forum on Reddit called ex-Christian if you don't believe it. So, are all ex-Christians who reject Jesus still saved then?

Which is more likely: that satan, the father of lies is deceiving Christians into obeying God more than necessary, or that committing unlimited sin is ok?

read this Isaiah 14:9-15 (KJV)

[9] Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. [10] All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? [11] Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. [12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! [13] For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: [14] I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. [15] Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

Proverbs 31 gives us a good starting point. Also Genesis 24

What does the Bible tell us to do with the time as we have each day of our life?

Vincent,

Go ahead and tell us your thoughts here. I can't extract specific answers from the text.

Maybe you can explain the dichotomy of the devil who shows up in the garden, Genesis 3, from the "morning star" that weakened the nations, Isaiah 14:12-15 and aspired to rise to heaven, from the one kicked out of heaven, Revelation 12:7-9.

I need semblance to draw a rational conclusion on what's happening with satan's tenure. Is this the nature of inequity, allowing the spirit of satan to continually spoil life?

Jesus calls the devil "the God of this world", 2 Corinthians 4:4. Does the devil's spirit reside on earth where he works his loom, or does he do so from heaven, or both? Has he already been kicked out of heaven, and Rev 12:7-9 is purely symbolic?

Today we face the same problems Adam and Eve faced in the garden, nothing has changed. I have a feeling you can shed light on this.

We think alike. My 1st message was to Adam, then I see you did the same.

I am thrilled you read the OT, it is rich with details. It's like 12 guys telling an insurance agent their version of the accident. Just for the fun of it, in a category called: Know your prophets:

Isaiah walked 3 years naked and barefoot.

And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia; So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.

Ezekiel 4, God told them to eat human dung, but the prophet talked God into eating cow dung as a sign of Northern kingdom's Assyrian captivity.

Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth. Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith. Ezekiel 4:14-15

What do you make of Isaiah 14:2 Egypt and slavery connection, both 400 years?

The last 2 trumpets are indirectly attributed to Jesus; they couple punishment with extreme violence. Of course the people on earth will be playing the attacks out to its desired outcome. Jesus in the flesh was void of sin, but trumpeted Jesus takes care of business.

1) There is the 6th trumpet, day of the Lord (named for Jesus), is punishment on a vile world from the Almighty. A day responsible for 1/3rd of humanities demise. Revelation 15: Jesus says "Behold, I come as a thief".......to lay the land desolate.

Those that dwell in heaven despise Mystery Babylon and Babylon proper to death. Joel gives a spectacular account of the missile strike on Babylon (America) Joel 2: 1-11, while on the other side of the world, in the self-same hour, Israel is invaded by the beast army and taken, Luke 21:20-24. Hell from beneath will rise up to greet Babylon at its departure, Isaiah 14:9 The current system will be torn down, and will be replaced with hell on earth.

2) Then there is the 7th trumpet slaughter featuring a transfigured Jesus, with a new name only He knows, Revelation 19:12, who defeats anti-christ's fractured beast army. It is Jesus returning with His army of resurrected saints to take possession of the earth. Revelation 14:20 The blood will be up to the horses bridle (in the valley).

In both trumpets, it is Jesus doling out judgment on an evil world, and in His Godly capacity. America and Israel have been poisoned by satan, enough so for God to commence and fulfill all the words of his servants, the prophets.

Hi Charles. Isaiah 14:12-14, How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be ""LIKE"" the most High.



( Lucifer wanted to be ""LIKE"" GOD. I think he wanted the glory and the worship.) " This may carry a different meaning than want to be God" This brings it home.

Ezekiel 28:12-15, Son of man, take up a lamentation upon the king of Tyrus, and say unto him, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Thou sealest up the sum, full of wisdom, and perfect in beauty.

Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created.

Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

Isaiah 14:9-17 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us? 11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. 12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

"Offending God with your thoughts" is quite possibly not sin, unless you dwell on them, leading to committing sin whether in the mind or body. We all have spurious thoughts come to us, & sometimes downright disturbing. It's how we deal with them that matters: do we determine to terminate those thoughts or choose to fuel them or even act upon them?

We can run to the Lord in prayer & commit our folly to Him; or turn to the Word & allow the Spirit to minister God's Message & Words of healing to our minds; or even do as the Apostle Paul suggests in Philippians 4:8,9, to set our minds (our thoughts) on things that are honest, just, pure, etc. Why do this? We are effectively covering over & ridding nasty, disturbing thoughts with thoughts that bring on peace, stability & purity to one's heart - i.e. getting our minds back onto God's track & dwelling on things that will lift up our hearts towards God rather than weigh them down to our hurt.

Thank you for your kindness and response. I have great fear of offending God with my own thoughts . I have many questions about why i feel differently about the scriptures that stir my fear of my declaration to worship only God. and have no other equal to or above my Heavenly Father. My views about the idols, crosses and statues of Jesus being that are man made. This is a tough subject . A fixed point of view that no one else seems to think is relevant to the commandment against idols . But thank you for your help.

Satan is the great counterfeiter, and as such he imitates Jesus in every way.

This portion in Isaiah 14:4 onwards, speaks specifically about the King of Babylon, who was wicked, presumptuous, & had delusions of grandeur (as many of the heathen kings did). However, verses 12-15 are also seen as a description of the Devil, as one who entertained sin (to be like God), was cast out from Heaven (when he was once an angel there), onto Earth (& we know what mischief he got to here), & whose domain is Hell, though being the god of this world leading many people into his domain.

You can also read in Ezekiel 28:11-19 where a similar accusation was made to the King of Tyrus, but has a wider meaning & fulfilment in Satan. So, these portions have nothing to do with Christ's resurrection & ascension.

Isaiah 14:14 Does this verse, even when reading the entire chapter in full context, foretell of when Jesus ascended into the clouds after his resurrection?

I am interested in your thoughts on 'hell'. You said, "that Hell does not exist in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Latin". So if you read Psalm 16:10 & Psalm 139:8 which, of course mentions 'hell', what Hebrew word, in your studies, is applicable there. I understand it as 'sheol', but you may have another word or meaning for it.

Then in the NT, we have Matthew 10:28 & Luke 16:23, where the word for 'hell', is understood to be 'geenne', or Gehenna in Matthew, and 'ade' or Hades, in Luke's reference. I see that all of these references (OT & NT) depict a place & state of suffering. And if these are translated from the original manuscripts, I would be interested to learn what you are reading, the words used & the manuscripts they are derived from, as this can be very perplexing to us who are confined to the Bibles we have now.

And as a result of this, what is your understanding of a place of eternal suffering for the wicked: whether such a state even exists of which the Bible declares.

I would get a 1978 New American Standard. I know it was much better. I have a Doctorate in Theology and worked almost a year getting the Bible in Modern English because so many young people I meet could not understand the KJV since what preachers are doing is using Dante's Inferno for its view of Hell instead of searching the scriptures to see that Hell does not exist in Hebrew, Aramaic, or Latin. It is a German and Old English word meaning a hidden place.

Dr David M Ward,

What translation do you recommend to get a more accurate wording?

I was wondering why both Satan and Jesus were "the morning star"

Thanks!

Isaiah 14:12

How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

(12) How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning!-The word for Lucifer is, literally, the shining one, the planet Venus, the morning star, the son of the dawn, as the symbol of the Babylonian power, which was so closely identified with astrolatry. "Lucifer" etymologically gives the same meaning, and is used by Latin poets (Tibull. i., 10, 62) for Venus, as an equivalent for the phsphoros of the Greeks. The use of the word, however, in medival Latin as a name of Satan, whose fall was supposed to be shadowed forth in this and the following verse, makes its selection here singularly unfortunate. Few English readers realise the fact that it is the king of Babylon, and not the devil, who is addressed as Lucifer. While this has been the history of the Latin word, its Greek and English equivalents have risen to a higher place, and the "morning star" has become a name of the Christ ( Revelation 22:16).

Rick,

Just curious! Where in the Bible does it say that lucifer is Satan? As you mentioned in your latest post.

Thank you,

Andrew

Revelations 12 I believe confirms what Rick is saying, I hope this helps

Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nation

Revelation Chapter 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Suzanne,

Angels aren't robots or mere animals acting merely on pre-programmed instinct. They have freewill to choose. I believe this because the Bible says so. It clearly says satan was a cherub (angel) in heaven and he disobeyed and was cast out.

Sources:

Ezekiel 28:12-18

Isaiah 14:12-14

Matthew 25:41 says satan also has angels. So, if you believe no angels can sin, and since satan has angels, do you not believe satan is evil or commits sin?

Does your belief that angels don't sin come from the Bible? If so, where in the Bible do you think it says angels don't think for themselves, don't have freewill, and that satan wasn't an angel? Now that you know these verses above exist in the Bible, does that influence your perspective?

The name Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible ( Isaiah 14:12). And if the time is take to examine and study this entire chapter one would discover that the context that this reference is made in regard to the King of Babylon.

Satan is the Devil's name. Jesus stated this. Lux Ferro is the word in Isaiah 14:12 that the translations of the KJV used out of the Latin Vulgate to get Lucifer. They were wrong and the world has spread this mistranslation of Moring Star into Lucifer aka the Devil for over 400 years. I knew the truth in 1978 when I began researching Morning Star and did not find the Devil but rather the planet Venus. I have a Doctorate in Theology and no good translation has Lucifer in the translation or the word Hell since the Bible was assembled in the 400's and the word Hell did not exist until 705 AD in Germany and Old England and its meaning is a hidden place.

Yes, we get an indication of the physical Satan in Ezekiel 28:12-19. Though Ezekiel is directing his prophecy to the King of Tyrus, we understand that through the description of his wickedness, the picture of Satan (& specifically Satan's former position in Heaven as a 'cherub' & 'having being in the Garden of Eden') clearly show us a dual meaning to this prophecy. Yes, Satan had beauty & perfection (verses 12,13,17) & as a cherub, that position is normally associated in being in close proximity to God's Presence (as in the Tabernacle on Earth & over the Ark of the Covenant), & in relation to God's Holiness.

Why did Satan go bad? Verse 17 tells us that his heart "was lifted up because of his beauty". Not that he always admired himself 'in the mirror', but his heart was lifted up against the Most High, believing that he was as good or better than God. See Isaiah 14:12-15, & particularly, that he was perfect, Ezekiel 28:15 (sinless, as all the other heavenly beings), until his pride took over & he believed he was better than God. But the big question: how was it possible for Satan to sin, & can other heavenly beings likewise sin? It seems that even by being in the Holy Presence of God & finding complete delight in worshipping Him, there can still be that element of choice. For in his pride & estrangement from God, he also gathered to himself other 'defecting' angels (see 2 Peter 2:4; Revelation 12:7-9; Jude 1:6).

We see Jesus in His humanity, though pure & sinless, He was tempted of Satan (Matthew chapter 4). Jesus resisted Satan using God's Word against him. However, Satan was in the presence of God & His Word in Heaven, yet allowed the thought of grandeur to enter in & develop into sin ( James 1:15) & finally a full blown wickedness that saw him banished from God's Presence & ever since, working against God to bring & keep humanity in his solid grip. But the Cross of Jesus brings us release from that grip - if we can only trust Jesus for it.

Genesis 1

2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.

The earth was prepared for the moment when The Bible says, in beginning. God created Time first. God lives outside of time, and He is the Alpha and the Omega. So He can move inside of Time too.

I've always thought that because only earth was made habitable (among all the rest of the solar system),

The Godhead had been preparing earth for the moment God spoke The Word, and the Holy Spirit who is Action, performed the Word.

The challenging thing is that He gave everyone freewill. We could live in Gods perfect will. I think our free will is influenced by the Holy Spirit, (our human free will). and "The I WILL": Lucifer who lost his name and became Satan. Isaiah 14:12

At the end of this period of time, we will be moving to heaven which exists outside of time. We aren't going to age and die.

It's really hard sometimes to read the doubtful comments. I pay close attention when I'm reading the Bible (which is a large part of my time), what is the Godhead showing me about themselves, today? I find them all United in purpose, they conference together; I mark those things that cause hurt and righteous anger. I love many stories in the Bible; love to re-tell them to complete strangers: like Elijahs eyes opened to see legions of war dressed angels in chariots, or beloved Gideon hiding out because he didn't see himself as a leader of armies. God weeded them down to just the guys that keep a lookout even as they lapped water like dogs do. God said: "those are your guys, Gid." Talking donkeys, etc.

Guys & Gals, try reading the Bible to learn the stories. Like: Cain was killed in a fist fight. The guy that killed him outlived the curse.

Who wants to be on earth when it burns up?

Saddle up! Tell someone about Jesus. Tell his story and just invite them to pray with you.

Mishael

After the flood, the rebellious angels who went after Adams daughters; drowned.

Only 8 souls survived: Noah's family.

The evil ones had no bodies. Bodies Drowned. (There's a chapter where they rail on Satan for getting them killed.) With no bodies they became Demons.

In the New Testament, Jesus cast many out of afflicted peoples, body and soul. If you think..So What?... they can still get inside people who are not Born Again.

They wander until they find some kind of living thing to get inside. That statement is validated in Ephesians 6:11-12, Eph. 2:2, Isaiah 24:21-22 (some are imprisoned); some are in high places; Michael had to fight one so Gabriel could get a message to Daniel. Isaiah 14:16, satan isn't big & handsome. Ezekiel 28:23-19.

Satan has a will and he uses it to hurt people.

Often people blame God for the bad things that happen. If people today have idols in their lives (porn on the computer, gamble online, horoscopes, etc.) There are specialized demons that inhabit those things. We open the door they use to come inside our lives.

One even followed Paul around, hindering his meetings till he turned and cast it out of that woman! THEY ARE INVISIBLE!!! We never have drinks and smoke pot alone.

Maybe we should turn our focus away from nephalim in Genesis and lay our eyes on how to identify demonic activity in our lives, family, friends, mean neighbors, violent video games etc. ask yourself: what Fruit am I seeing?? Is someone depressed or suicidal? That's a spirit of death. Drugs, alcohol, pot=spirit of bondage. Learn these things. You could be praying to set clueless people FREE to follow Jesus.

Please think about this. Remember people who died way too early. Some of you commit to pray every day for Military who will be returning home soon, to find jobs miraculously, find new friends, be blessed for serving. Hold their lives Precious within your heart and spirit. Let's love Larger than just ourselves.

Mishandled

I hope you know that most of us know the Book of Genesis, also. Much of what you posted is unscriptural.

If you read it at a snails speed, you might see your errors.

Your allegations about Eve having sex with anyone other than her husband (whom to God performed the first marriage), Is also unscriptural. Try reading all of the Geneologies. Cain is recorded as Adams firstborn.

Isaiah 14:12-16 (description of satan)

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. (Suit of worms)

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL ascend into heaven, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God: I WILL sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I WILL ascend above the heights of the clouds; I WILL be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 THEY THAT SEE THEE shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man (devil) that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

No offense intended, but I find your fixation on nakedness, wantoness, adultery and covering sex organs, shocking.

The entire Bible is about Jesus: Genesis to the last verse in Revelation. In fact, Revelation 22:18-19, tells us NOT TO ADD TO or, TO TAKE AWAY FROM, anything written in the Bible. To persist will get your part taken out of the Book of Life.

I'll end with this scripture:

Acts 19:15

And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?

Mishael

Isaiah 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the WORMS cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

This is speaking about satan/Lucifer. He'll be covered in worms. :D

M.

When Satan was hurled to earth, he took 1/3 of the angels in heaven with him. It could be billions? They died in the flood and became evil spirits.

Throughout the gospels we see they can get into people or harass them. There are lots of books and material on YouTube, covering the subject of spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6

What is not taught as much is the AUTHORITY of the Christian believer over these invisible spirits. We can see the fruit of the demonic in these street riots going on in our cities. The crowd that screamed for Jesus to be crucified was demonic. Satan thought he had killed the Son of God at last; but on the 3rd day Jesus came out of that tomb!

I don't think we should be demon conscious, but be Jesus conscious and use the Authority He gave to us to pray for ourselves and others.

Be disciples of Jesus and be filled with the Holy Spirit. We can ask the Holy Spirit for the Gift of Discerning of Spirits: there's human spirits, angelic spirits, demonic spirits.

Demons don't have bodies. They'll get inside of animals or people. They can't get in a born again, Holy Spirit baptized, Christian follower of Jesus, full of Bible scripture and knowledge of their AUTHORITY in Jesus Christ.

I do mean we need to be able to quote scripture like the Son of God, say IT IS WRITTEN and send those demons into outer darkness!

Jesus has provided everything we need to know in the Bible. We're supposed to know why we have armor and use it. His BLOOD is HOLY and no demon is going to challenge the POWER that is in that Holy, Sinless, Blood of the Lamb of God!

Again, be God conscious. Study. Get informed. ASK the Holy Spirit to teach you this truth. Desire the best gifts He has. Learn what they do. This is how we pray for family, our kids, our friends, strangers, our nation. Read the red letters in the gospels. Jesus defeated Satan! Grow your faith.

Isaiah 14:16. Some day we will see satan and be astonished we were so afraid.

Mishael