Discuss Isaiah 14 Page 5

I am currently on Day 286 in my Bible Reading in a Year journey and would like to thank "BSP" and "A Disciple" for their comments throughout my journey. They have consistently been informative and inspirational throughout my readings in the Old Testament and I look forward to their comments during my journey into the Life of Christ and beyond in the New Testament. Blessings to you both and to ALL of YOU!

Thank You ALL :-).Unthankful Lucifer} And we the abiding, good and faithful, inherit all he coveted for in Ephesians 2:6, Psalm 91:1 & 14,15,16. KJV

I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Jude 20 so very important to treasure folks, and neglect not. Difference between Spirit and GHOST / and communion of, and fellowship with/ believe 131 times and believeth continuous, 39 times,

Prov 14:15 The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going. Berean Acts 17:11 kjv. So satan has largely ensnared the the church into less true intimacy and flow of revelation is weakened, and now told to bow ones head in prayer then suggests we are approaching notfessed up and sanctified, so gifted boldness of gifted faith is gone misleading millions of the immature into confusion and hands + head down, powerlessness. Romans 1:4. Feigning Christianity, Popal biased Westcott and Hort have strewn their tare seeds of division, no greater hoax (other than declaring later versions are better than the KJVs scary consistency & excellence in placement of spirit & Ghost, ye or you, believe or believeth etc,etc ( Phillippians 1:9,10,11) of the tried and true KJV), has scarce been pulled off since Rome calling itself 1st Christian Church, and how sick ! is that. But our gracious *FATHER GOD* lets the seeker know the seasons by calling the 666 Vactool Luciferase. Come let us adore *HIM* *CHRIST JESUS Our Magnanimous (LORD* and ineffable *SAVIOUR* Psalm 66:2 Sing forth the honor of his name: make his praise glorious.

Amen and Amen, *JAH* is *HIS* Name, the perfect Dad.*JESUS* *DADS* Brightness. Ordinances such as Galations 6:6 and Hebrews 3:13 are not shared meat in our fellowship. But now, since that my last demon, frustration was renounced. And settling Ephesians 2:6 aligns with Psalm 91:1 + 14,15,16. The challenge of obedience in all things must be.*G* B U who follow on eagerly Jude 20.

David, it is true that Isaiah 14:4ff refers to the king of Babylon, yet it appears that his wickedness was likened to Lucifer (= the shining one). And that not only his rule, but also his destiny would be as assigned to Lucifer. The King probably entertained such thoughts in his heart also, as 'exalting himself above anyone else on Earth or in Heaven even to be equal to God', which he was considered during his rule. So the reference is to the king, but clear allusion to Lucifer, the spirit that controlled the king, both in his mental aspirations & wickedness as a regent.

As further support, we have Ezekiel chapter 28, where a similar wicked prince is taken over the coals: the Prince of Tyrus. He too made similar claims (v2). Then Ezekiel took up a lamentation over him (vv 12-19) with words that clearly show that the prince could not possibly be the one that is only referred to here (vv 13-16) & that there is another one that perfectly fulfilled this, indeed was instrumental in the prince's behaviour. Words such as 'anointed cherub' & 'perfect in the ways from the day thou was created' can't be applied to the prince, rather strongly reveals Satan who was once pure & holy 'until iniquity was found in thee' who was the prince's influence.

So the question comes back to your thoughts: 'if angels have no will of their own, how can they then sin'? Herein, our understanding ceases as we're not told how this can happen. But because it happened, we should not remove all references to Satan/Lucifer as one who was never in Heaven as a cherub. And, we're not required to be 'sinless to enter Heaven': we are still saved & sanctified sinners who will be renewed in every way, outfitted for life in Eternity. Only Jesus is seen as a sinless Man now glorified in Body & in worship, at His Father's right Hand.

You make some good points on fearing God and that there are those that do end up in Hell. However, Angels in Heaven did not sin, nor were the Angels of God cast out of Heaven. Satan was not in Heaven where God dwells and where those saved from sin spend eternity.

Angels have no will of their own, making it impossible for them to sin. Satan was not an Angel of God that rebelled and was then cast out. Yes there are areas in the Bible that talk about Satan in heavenly places such as in Job, where Satan and God were discussing or debating, whatever we want to call this interaction in consideration of Job. But Satan was never in the Heaven talked about as in Heaven vs Hell, places souls spend eternity.

The probable area that seems to indicate Satan was in Heaven and cast out is represented in Isaiah 14 starting in verse 4 "...take up this proverb against the king of Babylon..." Here the description of Babylon's king Nebuchadnezzar and his fall from power and being turned into a beast as depicted in Daniel 4 begins. Another depiction of what would happen to the king as told by 2 accounts in 2 different ways. In Isaiah 14:12 we read "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!" Isaiah 14 is still talking about a man, the king of Babylon. In verse 16 it confirms that a man is still being discussed. "...Is this the man that made the earth to tremble..." Would you call Satan a man? Satan and Lucifer are not the same; Lucifer was an alternate name, a nickname maybe, of Nebuchadnezzar.

If Angels in Heaven can sin, and you or I can be thrown out of Heaven, does it sound like such a great reward as we otherwise think it to be? Why are we required to be sinless to enter Heaven, yet after arriving we can sin again once there? Isn't part of the reward of gaining Heaven to not be in or around sin, sinful things, and the temptation to sin? Sin and the sinful cannot enter Heaven.

Mishael, may the Spirit grace us with his words, you quoted Isaiah 14:11-16. Verse 16 says: They that see thee (king of Babylon) shall narrowly look upon thee (king of Babylon), and consider thee (king of Babylon), saying is this the MAN (king of Babylon) that made the earth to tremble, and that did shake kingdoms. The whole chapter is about the king of Babylon. Ezekiel 28 is talking about the king of Tyrus, Ezekiel 28:12. Satan was a liar and murder from the beginning, no perfection there. The third that fall in Revelation 12:4 is the same third in Zachariah 13:9 and the same third in Ezekiel 5:1-4 and the same third in Revelation 8:7-12. These prophesies are about fire saving mankind not torturing mankind.

To Earl Bowman. Isaiah 28:13-19

Lucifer was A CREATED ARCHANGEL. 4th in line to the Throne. He was cast down to the Earth. He became Satan. He was NOT human. He had no ability to produce children, unless you refer to evil spirits? Lucifer was in charge of praise and worship to God. He lost his position and name also when he was cast out.

13 Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that THOU WAS CREATED.

14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.

15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.

17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.

19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more.

Revelation 12:9

And the GREAT DRAGON was cast out, that old SERPENT called the DEVIL and SATAN, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

SEE ISAIAH 14:12-16, to read more of Lucifer.

If you will Google 'LIST OF DEMON NAMES'

you'll see who works for him. The 1/3 that chose to be cast out with him.

Blessings, Mishael

Chris,

God's word reveals to us that the earth was "without form, and void." That is found in Jeremiah 4:23. Many people that worship God and Jesus understand this to have happened in the first earth age.

We know the phrase "without form, and void," from Genesis 1:2, and it means 'completely covered with water,' which is what the earth was before the 6 days of re-creation by God.

The 'Scriptural proof' you are requesting from Word 76 concerning people on earth a long time age can be found in Jeremiah 4:25, as God states that there was "no man." This is not reference to the flood of Noah's day, as Noah, his family, and animals, survived the flood. Neither was the heaven black or light taken from the earth at the flood of Noah's time. Neither were all the birds gone.

God declares to His children that they are "sottish," meaning foolish, because they do not care for or desire "understanding" of His word. God then reminds them, and reveals to us, how the earth came to be "without form, and void" and the heavens gave "no light."

We are also told that God did not make a "full end" of that destruction, i.e. the 6 days of re-creation in Genesis 1.

Given in ( Jeremiah 4:22 - 29) is information as to HOW God destroyed and made "desolate" the earth, and that He withdrew His light from the heavens. WHY His "fierce anger" was kindled can be found in chapter 14 of Isaiah ( Isaiah 14:1 - 32). Prophecy concerning the restoration of Israel is given. Within this prophecy, Satan is addressed symbolically as "Lucifer" (look at Isaiah 14:12 - 20)

The word of God does not declare that Eve had 'fraternal twins,' the point being made is that it is possible. Science states that it is possible to have twins with different fathers. I believe this could be a possibility.

We learn and teach with love! Nobody knows everything about Scripture, and we try to understand other peoples points of view with compassion and guidance.

Word 76, right on, keep up the good studying.

This chapter speaks about the defeat of our enemy Satan and the physical enemies of Isreal the Babylonians and the Assyrians. The lord in this chapter tells us another of his name. The Lord God of hosts or the Lord God of Sabaoth.The Lord God of army. when he present himself like this he comes to fight for his people. In preseting this part of his character he tells us how he defeated our and this enemy Satan.God our defender will always fight our battles. He has never lost one battle. See Colossians 2.15

Jews are not the chosen people, the Bible never says that. We are all chosen. However, it is Israel who is the apple of God's eye, not todays vile partner in crime with America (Mystery Babylon). The real Israel, the real tribes are hidden and lost in generations. It is original Israel that is reformed at the 7th trumpet, and not to include 1,300 year old impostors. Isaiah 14:1 The Lord will again choose Israel, after the Ashkenazi Jews courted satan to ruins.

B COLE,

Revelation 9:1 tells us that when the fifth angel sounded, a star fell. In Revelation Chapter 1, we know that the stars represent angels. So a star fell from heaven. Secondly, the word fall is in the Perfect Tense. So he sees a star which has already fallen. He didn't see it as it was falling. He saw a fallen star, a star that had already fallen from out of heaven unto the earth.

And to this angel, this fallen star, was given the key to the bottomless pit. Notice that it was given to him. He did not possess it. He did not have authority over it. We know from Revelation Chapter 1 that Jesus has the keys of Hades and of death. The Lord holds all the keys to all of these places.

Now the bottomless pit is the word abyss, ABUSSO in Greek. And it is interesting because it is believed that around where Babylon used to be, and in fact, it was the place where Saddam Hussein was caught, but they believed that there is a shaft that goes down into the heart of the earth. And this shaft is closed up on the top.

And this would be the place that Peter told us about in 2 Peter Chapter 2:4, that there are angels who are reserved in chains of darkness, ready to be revealed.

And so this star who had fallen was given the key to the bottomless pit. This star is none other than Satan himself, and the creatures that will be released from this pit are going to be two-hundred million demons unleashed upon the earth.

But concerning this star who had been fallen, back in Isaiah 14:12-15, we have recorded for us the rebellion of Satan. It is called the "five I wills," where Satan said I will be like the most high, where he expressed his rebellion towards God.

And it is at that time that he lost his first domain. He lost his first position with God.

Chris,

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Concerning the three heaven and earth AGES; reference will again be pointed toward the entire chapter of 2nd Peter chapter 3. This might give you a clearer understanding of these separate DISPENSATIONS OF TIME (not the formation of three separate heavens and earths). For reference I will again state that "the world that then was" ( 2 Peter 3:6) refers to the first dispensation of time. "The heavens and earth which are now" ( 2 Peter 3:7) refers to the second dispensation of time (the time we are presently living in from Adam until now). And "a new heavens and a new earth" ( 2 Peter 3:13) refer to the time period that all God fearing humans are waiting for; also look at Isaiah 65:17, Isaiah 66:12, Revelations 21:1.

My question concerning Satan brings into light the three dispensations of time; as Scripture would be most difficult to understand without comprehension of them.

The fall of Satan happened in the first earth and heaven age and was the reason for the end of that particular time period. Information regarding this can be found (as you stated) in Isaiah 14:12-20, Isaiah 45:18, 19, Jeremiah 4:22-29, and Ezekiel 28:12-19, as they are descriptive figurative statements revealing him to us. Not a page of God's word could be turned without the use of figurative language; which is employed to emphasize a truth and reveal a deeper understanding of the topic being discussed.

Therefore, "In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth." Genesis 1:1. That was the first earth age.

Found in first half of Genesis 1:2 is the result of the end of the first dispensation of time (due to the rebellion of Satan); hence, the earth was (became) without form and void.

Found in the second half of Genesis 1:2 is the first act of the second dispensation of time; hence, the Spirit of God moving upon the waters.

I stayed up most of last night, being led through BIBLE SCRIPTURES, that back up what the teacher is teaching. It is painstakingly slow, And biblically SOUND.

I would not have even listened to it if it didn't have scriptural foundation. The teacher uses the Hebrew to explain the events that happened. I do not know why I had NEVER heard this expanded teaching before, at church, but I have now. I still have 3 hours to listen to!

Here are some scripture passages you'll want to mark for that study. At one point I just began to write all over the page margins :/

This may interest you to listen to it on YouTube later.

Genesis 1, Job 1:8, restoration of earth in Genesis,

Jeremiah 4;23-28

Jeremiah 4:26 Gods anger

Isaiah 24:1 Is pre-Adam; God turned earth upside down,

Job 9:1-9 earth frozen ball of ice

Revelation ch 6

Job 38. Science has proved the Bible is accurate;

Deu. 32:4 Gods work is perfect

Isa 45:18

Eccl. 3:11

Psalm 18:30

Genesis verses 6-9 restoration not creation

Genesis 1-2 earth not 6 thousand years old; it's billions, what science proved.

I had all the prophetic scriptures boxed; I just didn't know how the fit in. When it says former inhabitants and people's, those are the 1/3 angels that followed Lucifer.

Isaiah 14:17 20 spoken by demons to Lucifer

Satan was in hell when Adam was created. He was turned into a snake. Was in the garden Ezekiel 28:13

Ezekiel 28: 1-19 Lucifer>Satan

Lucifer went from Archangel/ covering Cherub. God>Holy Spirit>Jesus>Lucifer

4th in line to the throne. Isa.14:12

YouTube. WAR IN THE HEAVENLIES, by Benny Hinn. 5 hour teaching

Why do we need to put this together so we can understand it?? Because people ask questions. And..,it's very important to Satan. We need to know HOW he came to be loose on the earth; after Adam and after Jesus'S death on the Cross.

For myself and you, we have a responsibility to piece this together as it really happened.

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Dr David Stern writes: "Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.

who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR is Jesus

Jesus = Yeshua = Morning Star

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR

Jesus is Yeshua the morning star

Chris. Still on Page 3. You say that after the Fall "the Purpose of God in Creation was thwarted". I am certain you don't believe that. You just haven't examined the thought. What does the Bible say about God and His Purpose? It specifically says it cannot be thwarted. The Purpose of God will stand.

Isaiah 14:24, 26-27 - The LORD of Hosts has sworn: "Surely, as I have planned, so will it be; as I have purposed, so will it stand. This the plan devised for the whole earth, and this is the hand stretched out over all the nations. The LORD of Hosts has purposed, and who can thwart Him? His hand is outstretched, so who can turn it back?

Ephesians 1:4-5 - According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love.

Isaiah 46:9-11 - Remember what happened long ago, for I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is none like Me. I distinguish the end from the beginning, and ancient times from what is still to come, saying: 'My purpose will be established, and I will accomplish all My good pleasure.' I summon a bird of prey from the east, a man for My purpose from a far-off land. Truly I have spoken, truly I will bring it to pass. I have planned it, I will surely do it.

Isaiah 48:3 - I foretold the former things long ago; they came out of My mouth and I proclaimed them.

Suddenly I acted, and they came to pass.

Acts 4:28 - They carried out what Your hand and purpose had decided beforehand would happen.

Daniel 4:35 - All the peoples of the earth are counted as nothing, and He does as He pleases with the army of heaven and the peoples of the earth. There is no one who can restrain His hand or say to Him, 'What have You done?'"

The confidence we have is that God is trustworthy. He is not fickle. If God says we will be eternally perfect, we will be. If God had created Adam and Eve perfect, they would have been. And neither they, nor the devil would have rebelled against God.

IF a Jew believes in Jesus he ceases to be a Jew and becomes a Christian.

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Doctor David Stern writes: Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.'

So who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR.

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR.

Did you catch it Jesus is Yeshua the MORNING STAR in

That is right: MANY NATIONS. Abraham had Isaac ... and Ishmael. Israel is one nation and>

Genesis 17: 18-21

Ishmael was born in Gods permissive will.

God blessed him

Will make him fruitful

Will multiply him exceedingly:

Twelve princes shall he beget

I will make him a great nation

That explains a lot I think, but read also Genesis 18: 18-19 There is a note to read: Gen 12:3, 22:28, psalm 72:17, Acts 3:25, Gal. 3:8-9, 16, 18

Isaac gets Israel (all the land of Canaan). I'd have to look at maps later.

There is great resentment in Israel right now. Palestinians want the land back pure & simple. They want everything that was Destroyed to be rebuilt, infrastructure and full access to Jerusalem. They want everything that the war of 1967 gained!!! It's mind boggling. Israel gets to be a state but loses what they fought for independence to regain.

This is the engine that is hurrying the earth to conclusion. It's partly why we are commanded to pray for the peace of Jerusalem. God is NOT going to rescind the covenant with Abraham.

One point about the Antichrist is found in Daniel 11:37....neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard ANY god: for he shall magnify himself. [a note refers to Isaiah 14:13 here]

Bottom line is that Antichrist is most likely descended from Ishmael. But he has no regard for his heritage.

He's moving under the radar but if enough people read Jerusalem Post dot com ?? We may see him in a crowd with a smirk.

The prophesies are about the Covenant; the land God has given to Israel through Isaac.

There are many people's that are returning that believe Jesus is the Messiah; they're happy about it; most likely have churches; evangelize...

How can you despise that? Israel is the apple of Gods eye. He rejects orthodox Torah carrying boneheads that will not receive His son. He is turning up the pressure every day. God has a plan! Quit railing and you will see.

Is Yeshua really Lucifer?

The Complete Jewish Bible by "messianic believer" Doctor David Stern writes:

Presenting the Word of God as a unified Jewish book, the Complete Jewish Bible (CJB) is a translation for Jews and non-Jews alike. It connects readers with the Jewishness of the Messiah. Names and key terms are returned to their original Hebrew and presented in easy-to-understand transliterations.

The CJB is a translation of the Bible into English by Dr. David H. Stern. It consists of Dr. Stern's revised translation of the Old Testament (Tanakh) plus his original Jewish New Testament (B'rit Hadashah) translation in one volume.

In Isaiah 14 (REMOVED LUCIFER AND INSERTS MORNING STAR) Their argument is Lucifer is a "Latin" word that does not belong in English. About 20% of English comes from Latin. Does Taco not belong in English since it is Spanish?

Satanists and Luciferians know who Lucifer is. Read Carefully

Isaiah 14: (the fall of Lucifer)

11 Your pride has been brought down to Sh'ol (Hell)

with the music of your lyres,

under you a mattress of maggots,

over you a blanket of worms.'

(KJV uses Lucifer Stern inserts MORNING STAR who FELL from Heaven)

12 "How did you come to fall from the heavens,

MORNING STAR, son of the dawn?

How did you come to be cut to the ground,

conqueror of nations?

13 You thought to yourself, 'I will scale the heavens,

I will raise my throne above God's stars.

I will sit on the Mount of Assembly

far away in the north.

14 I will rise past the tops of the clouds,

I will make myself like the Most High.'

So who fell from heaven going to the pit of Hell? THE MORNING STAR.

Who is the Morning Star? Stern says Jesus is Yeshua

Revelation 22: 16 "I, (Jesus) Yeshua, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the Messianic communities. I am the Root and Offspring of David, the bright MORNING STAR.

Did you catch it Jesus is Yeshua the MORNING STAR in Rev 22 and in Isaiah 14 Yeshua fell from heaven making him Lucifer essentially

I believe the original sin is revealed in Isaiah 14:13-15.

" Surely has I have thought, so shall it come to pass " Think about the power of this statement about the Almighty Lord of all that was, is and forevermore! Praise Him, and may the thoughts of the Lord also rule in your life. Salvation is for the sinner today and until Jesus Returns. Hold on to the promises of Our Heavenly Father. Kneel before Him today and dwell on His Word. Blessing of mercy and grace be with you today who read this.

It is Revelation 2:12,13,14,15; John 8:44 & Isaiah 14:13,14,15 at the crux of our story.

There is several counterfeit CHRIST coming first to this Earth one to get the whole world to take that Mark for Peace & Safety ! That will not just give you grievous sore and make you like the walking dead, but damn your souls to Hell forever with them ! That place not originally prepared for us but the Fallen Angels for doing all this ! When beheading is going to be only other option for not taking that Mark ! Why Jesus already made that way, and even way of escape, from that hour that is coming to try the whole world but is not satans counterfeit/s coming to take the world souls if not their heads ! Revelation 13-22 Matthew 24 & Luke 21 & Revelation 6 & 2 Thessalonians 2 & Isaiah 14:9-17

Mickey on Isaiah 14:12-16

One of satans other names is: DESTROYER. He is the ACCUSER of the brethren. He is a murderer, a liar. Revelation 12:10, Job chapter 1-2; Zechariah

Actually in Isaiah chapter 14:12-16, satan says I WILL 5 times!

One of satans other names is: DESTROYER.

There is the Will Of God. God gave FREE WILL to Adam and Eve.

But there is another will operating that is not a part of Gods purpose for earth or mankind. I think when satan was kicked out of Heaven, he retained his WILL.

Don't blame God for the bad things that happen to you and others. We have Jesus now. I look at Job and he was a righteous man. Keep yourself & family soaked in prayer! Be alert

There is the will of God; the free will God gave to humans; and there is another will loose in the world (the entire planet): that would be SATAN. ( Isaiah 14:12)
"For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God..."
Quite a bit in chapter 14 about Lucifer/Devil/Satan. He's not locked yet. He's in the world! How many times did Job's wife tell him to curse God and die? He didn't do it.

Let other people know God does not cause the pain and suffering. He does however go through the fiery furnace with you. Give Him praise people!
When your mouth opens up to accuse God, or you hear someone else doing it remember that one of satans names is: ACCUSER

In response to d. fannings question
romans 9: 4,5 - when you read who ,whose, whom these verses are refering to the israelites.
hebrews 12:17 repentance wasn't given to esau even though he cried for it, only to the house of israel.
rev 13: 9, 10 - here is what yahusha says will happen
isaiah 14:2- here's the other nations future role in the besorah (gospel).

This seems to be a common argument lately and I see no evidence it is from the Bible or God. Have you prayed to God for wisdom and clarification of this? Because to the vast majority of Christians the Bible in crystal clear English says Christians can and do sin. Even angels in heaven had the freewill to sin and that's what satan and his followers did. Isaiah 14:12, Ezekiel 28. If it was impossible for a Christian to sin today then why would Jesus spend so much time telling his followers specifically NOT to sin, but to obey? Are Christians robbed of freewill? No, they still can choose sin and often do. Some use grace as an excuse to enjoy sinning. John 14:15, John 3:36, 1 Cor 11:27-32.

Satan was lucifer the archangel so he has all the attributes of angels as he was one. he probably flew, swam, was on top of the ark, Really what does it matter anyway, he is so evil and we should not focus on him. but here is some scripture Isaiah 14:12-15 2 Corinthians 11:14 Ezekiel 28:17 Ezekiel 28:15 1 Peter 5:8

Thankyou for helping me have a better understanding of the Word. God bless you and your family, in Jesus Christ's name.

Lucifer lux Light ferre carry. He only was supposed to bear the light, to carry the light which is Jesus Christ - John 8,12. "I am the light of the world". Lucifer was only the servant who should bear the light but WAS not the light himself and did not obey the command and the word of God. Lucifer started the revolution because he wanted to be worshipped as god. He was thrown out of the heaven.

SO the Babylon system, New testament is a product of Masonry. God's word and law never changes. A lot of you are deceived and worshipping a false idol without even realizing it because of your indoctrination. I recommend you take heed to the word of God, his original word that never changes and repent. Isaiah 14:12, Rev 22:16 the truth is in plain sight. But some will refute it because of pride.

Was - Is - Forever shall Nothing new under the sun... These matters today, have played out again and are being played out even today, w eyes to see and ears that hear... Thanks for your good word... o jp