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Mickey on Isaiah 14:12-16

One of satans other names is: DESTROYER. He is the ACCUSER of the brethren. He is a murderer, a liar. Revelation 12:10, Job chapter 1-2; Zechariah

Actually in Isaiah chapter 14:12-16, satan says I WILL 5 times!

One of satans other names is: DESTROYER.

There is the Will Of God. God gave FREE WILL to Adam and Eve.

But there is another will operating that is not a part of Gods purpose for earth or mankind. I think when satan was kicked out of Heaven, he retained his WILL.

Don't blame God for the bad things that happen to you and others. We have Jesus now. I look at Job and he was a righteous man. Keep yourself & family soaked in prayer! Be alert

There is the will of God; the free will God gave to humans; and there is another will loose in the world (the entire planet): that would be SATAN. ( Isaiah 14:12)
"For thou hast said in thine heart, I WILL exalt my throne above the stars of God..."
Quite a bit in chapter 14 about Lucifer/Devil/Satan. He's not locked yet. He's in the world! How many times did Job's wife tell him to curse God and die? He didn't do it.

Let other people know God does not cause the pain and suffering. He does however go through the fiery furnace with you. Give Him praise people!
When your mouth opens up to accuse God, or you hear someone else doing it remember that one of satans names is: ACCUSER

In response to d. fannings question
romans 9: 4,5 - when you read who ,whose, whom these verses are refering to the israelites.
hebrews 12:17 repentance wasn't given to esau even though he cried for it, only to the house of israel.
rev 13: 9, 10 - here is what yahusha says will happen
isaiah 14:2- here's the other nations future role in the besorah (gospel).

This seems to be a common argument lately and I see no evidence it is from the Bible or God. Have you prayed to God for wisdom and clarification of this? Because to the vast majority of Christians the Bible in crystal clear English says Christians can and do sin. Even angels in heaven had the freewill to sin and that's what satan and his followers did. Isaiah 14:12, Ezekiel 28. If it was impossible for a Christian to sin today then why would Jesus spend so much time telling his followers specifically NOT to sin, but to obey? Are Christians robbed of freewill? No, they still can choose sin and often do. Some use grace as an excuse to enjoy sinning. John 14:15, John 3:36, 1 Cor 11:27-32.

Satan was lucifer the archangel so he has all the attributes of angels as he was one. he probably flew, swam, was on top of the ark, Really what does it matter anyway, he is so evil and we should not focus on him. but here is some scripture Isaiah 14:12-15 2 Corinthians 11:14 Ezekiel 28:17 Ezekiel 28:15 1 Peter 5:8

Thankyou for helping me have a better understanding of the Word. God bless you and your family, in Jesus Christ's name.

Lucifer lux Light ferre carry. He only was supposed to bear the light, to carry the light which is Jesus Christ - John 8,12. "I am the light of the world". Lucifer was only the servant who should bear the light but WAS not the light himself and did not obey the command and the word of God. Lucifer started the revolution because he wanted to be worshipped as god. He was thrown out of the heaven.

SO the Babylon system, New testament is a product of Masonry. God's word and law never changes. A lot of you are deceived and worshipping a false idol without even realizing it because of your indoctrination. I recommend you take heed to the word of God, his original word that never changes and repent. Isaiah 14:12, Rev 22:16 the truth is in plain sight. But some will refute it because of pride.

Was - Is - Forever shall Nothing new under the sun... These matters today, have played out again and are being played out even today, w eyes to see and ears that hear... Thanks for your good word... o jp

Verse 12 is about Babylon. Lucifer means light giver. Light means knowledge. So Lucifer means giver of knowledge. Son of the morning means first of the enlightened nations. It was obviously a place that welcomed and encouraged those who sought knowledge. The magi are thought to have come from there.

Ok as nicely as i can put this Lucifer is a male period. Here it is in black and white Isaiah 14:12 read through 14:16 dont guess or assume pray and look for yourself. And if that is not enough Pray again pray for the will of God in every area of your life pray God your will not my will be done submit to God 100 percent not 99.9 Jesus said forsake all take up your cross and follow him.

The dragon is Saturn ( Isaiah 14:12-15), with the third of the stars as the fallen angels. The woman represents Israel of which Mary was (an Israelite). The child with iron rod (Mathew 10:34 I came not to send peace, but a sword) is Jesus Christ, who ascended to the Father God Almighty. Then Israel will hide during persecution of which Saturn will go against all Christians (remnant) on earth.

This has already come to pass.

Im reading all of your comments. And I am wondering.... DO YOU ALL REALLY UNDERSTAND what versus 1-7 is actually saying??? Do you TRULY realize what it is telling you??? If not let me help you. Its saying that THE PEOPLE who are at the bottom of society, are going to put THE PEOPLE at the top..in bondage. Because they hated and enslaved. And conquered lands that didn't belong to them

When did sin enter the world? Book of Eziekel 28:13-18, Isaiah 14:12-15, sinned entered the world by Lucifer. Genesis 1:1-2 God created the Heaven and the Earth inhabitable on day one, (to create is to bring something new into nature which only God can do, for man and angels only manipulate their environment, trees for lumber, clay, brick, steel ect from the earth.)

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Lucifer is called a son, a male, not a female.

Truthseeker: I did agree with you on female. Read Isaiah 14:12. 2 Corinthians 11:14, Revelation 12:9. Altho each reads the bible in his own way.

This is my most inspiring book after the book of Psalm

I am so grateful for Father GOD, and his Son Lord JESUS, and the HOLY SPIRIT. I am grateful, that mankind can repent, and be redeemed by the blood of CHRIST. Satan, was once a beautiful Cherub with precious stones, who refuse to acknowledge, The one and only GREAT KING JEHOVAH! Who allowed one of the lower ranking Angels, to loosen up one of his screws! I AM who I AM.

GOD WAS, GOD IS , AND GOD SHALL ALWAYS BE MOST HIGH AND POWERFUL. NONE MAN ON THIS EARTH SHALL FATHOM THE THINGS GOD CAN DO EXCEPT THROUGH HIM. TIME IS FOREVER REPEATING ITSELF IN ALL OF WHAT THIS NEW GENERATION FAILS TO RECOGNIZE, GOD IS LORD AND KING OF KINGS.

Clyde: I don't believe Satan was a prisoner in heaven. I assume he could go wherever you wanted and do what he wanted, apparently he did! Isaiah 14:1-20 is talking about a king, he thought he was better than anybody, his name Lucifer. If Lucifer was the name of Satan why was it never used again? only one time is it used, the name of the king. Read the Scriptures slowly and look in concordance.

Psalms 147:19,20 is one of my fav. Read it. And joel 2:27 Amos 3:1,2 Acts 13:23 Acts 5: 29-31 matthew 15:24 and Deuteronomy 28:68 luke 1:68-71 Deuteronomy 7:6 😊 love these scrips wake up Israel wake up! The kingdom of the lord is at hand. Non israelites Isaiah 14:1-4 Jeremiah 30:16 revelation 13:9,10. Obidiah chpt 1. Shalom Israel.

O LORD IEHOVAH Ah-way ! Thou alone art God Almighty who made all things by Jesus Christ! May all men know that thou art the most High over all the earth! Amen

Comment*In the midst of all the destruction that will happen to nations. The Lord will have mercy on Jabob. The mercies of God stands sure for all that put their trust in Him.

Praise the Lord Jesus I enjoyed the word and the comments.

Gail, put all your trust in JESUS CHRIST as LORD and SAVIOUR as He is the way, the truth and the life. Spiritual Zion is not of this world just as Israel is not a spot on a map, but is instead a people. Be blessed in Christ Jesus. Amen. Psalms 125:1 A Song of degrees. They that trust in the LORD shall be as mount Zion, which cannot be removed, but abideth for ever. Isaiah 51:16 And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.

If Zion is prepaired as a refuge how do we as American Christians find Zion?

Interesting !

verses 12-15 How different Satans desire from that of our Lord who said, Thy will be done, even when it meant being crucified on a cross for our sins. God has a plan for your day today. He also has a plan for your life. So, what will it be, I will or Thy will?

Isaiah 14:29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent. Daniel 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.