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Hello again, Chris,

Thank you for the response! Before yesterday I had never even discovered this website-format, much less written in it. I found it in Internet-looking up the KJV for purposes in helping another person in pulling it up on-line if they did not have a KJV, so as to try to show them things that would lead them to that Wonderful Saving Knowledge of our Blessed Savior, Almighty God Jesus Christ!...and here we are!

Please tell me a little about yourself, and your relationship with Jesus Christ and your interest in studying His Bible! What are some of your favorite Scriptures?!

I am 68 and received Christ when age 17, growing up in Miami, Florida. I came out of a quite strong and dedicated Catholic background - Catholic schooling and being an "altar boy", and "knowing" Catholicism was the "only true religion" - when someone in my junior year of high school, now in a public school, showed me Ephesians 2:8&9, John 1:12, and II Corinthians 5:17. Catholics never teach, recommend, or at all emphasize individual Bible learning, and being able to buy my own copy and read it was revolutionary to me! They emphasize Catholicism-only, what the priest says, completely missing and denying the need for what God says in the last clause of Deuteronomy 8:3 and the related Matthew 4:4 and Luke 4:4.

Big to me also then quickly became Isaiah 26:3, Psalm 119:11, and Romans 12:1&2. That Glorious Grace Salvation of Ephesians 2:8&9 I immediately saw completely destroyed Catholicism's evil doctrine of works-salvation, and that Truth greatly spoke to me. Seeing that and all these beginning Truths in my life greatly blessed and thrilled my heart and understanding! Another few of my favorite Scriptures in and of life have become III John 2 & 4, Jeremiah 15:16, and Psalms 94:19, 103:3&4 & 111:2 which says, "The works of The Lord are great, sought out of all that have pleasure therein"!!

Best regards, which is always Jesus Christ Himself! Richard.

I've been healed many times. At salvation I was healed of drugs plus alcohol abuse. I was suicidal and involved in actual astrological chart readings. I didn't know Jesus and didn't know I was serving Satan. The moment I reached to take hold of an invisible hand, I was sure (had faith) a Hand was extended to me; I was born again, delivered spiritually and physically. I didn't experience detox and I woke up the next day filled with the Holy Spirit who impressed on me to rid my house of all cursed occult items which I burned the next day. I hadn't read Acts 19:19 yet.

Every time I prayed for healing and received it by faith, it was done: migraines, arm wrenched out of range. I asked for $3,249.76 to move out of state, and I got that exact amount of money!!

You believe what Jesus says. We are not of this world. Ask the Father, in Jesus name; then receive it. Don't ask selfishly. Ask in faith. Stand on scripture. Jesus is the same today, tomorrow and forever. Fear not.

Mark Chapter 16

15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth NOT shall be damned.

17 And THESE SIGNS shall follow them that BELIEVE; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;

18 They shall take up serpents (like COVID), and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall LAY HANDS ON THE SICK and they shall recover.

Isaiah 26:3

You keep him in perfect peace whose mind is stayed on you, because he trusts in you.

Luke 13:11; John 5:5; Acts 10:38; Acts 3:2;

Acts 4:9

Did Job trust God? Did everybody who knew Job or didn't know him; some accused him of sin, small faith; his wife told him to curse God and die; then at length God revealed His true majesty and wisdom to Job.

Touch God with praise, worship and your faith. He wants you to touch him. Read those scriptures.

Mishael

Rev robert, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Revelation 14

Revelation 15

Revelation 16

This is the work of CHRIST DEATH on the cross and the work of HIS RESURRECTION and the battle ( Revelation 16:14) we are caused to fight to come to this TRUTH IN CHRIST. Being fulfilled for the last 2000 years as the Fathers draws us to CHRIST and CHRIST gives us HIS UNDERSTANDING to overcome. ASK HIM he will cause you to understand; but it HIS time frame. We have been in the day of the Lord now for 2000 years. He is harvesting HIS FRUITS as they become first ripe (firstfruits) ( Revelation 14:14-20) ( Matthew 20:1-16)

When the sixth seal was opened ( Revelation 6:12) Christ was crucified; prophecy of ( Joel 2:31). The old testament saints and the children of the resurrection were raised with him ( Isaiah 26:19),( Revelation 20:5-6) and ( Matthew 27:52-53). The old testament saints were sealed with the Holy Spirit and the body of Christ ( 1 Timothy 6:16)( Revelation 7:3-8). There was silence in heaven for one half hour ( Revelation 8:1) between the sixth and seventh seal. This is the 45 days between Christ resurrection and pentecost ( Daniel 12:11-12) 1335 days minus 1290 days. No one could enter into the temple (into Christ) until the seven plagues were pour out on Christ (he took God's wrath for us). now we can be ONE IN CHRIST ( Revelation 15:6-8). The four living creatures before the throne ( Revelation 4:6-8) is all creation. God made a covenant with Noah that they would never be destroyed again ( Genesis 9:9-12) man, cattle, beast and fowl. ( Ezekiel 1:10) ( Revelation 4:7). ALL CREATION will worship God. The lake of fire is how Christ cleanses and purifies us.

Hebrews 12:29

Luke 12:49-50

Matthew 3:11-12

Isaiah 9:5

Isaiah 4:3-4

Malachai 3:2-3

Ezekiel 20:46-49

1 Corinthians 3:15

I AM the resurrection

John 11:25 Jesus said unto her I AM THE RESURRECTION, and THE LIFE......

Isaiah 26:19

1 Timothy 6:16

Job 14:7-9 For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and the tender branch thereof will not cease.

(vs 8) Thought the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;

(vs 9) Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.

S Spencer, may the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The Spirit has revealed to you HIS truth in your reply to Karen. The promise was the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (immortal life by Christ); but this was not possible without RESURRECTION; therefore, we and the saints of the old testament also became partakers of HIS RESURRECTION.

Hebrews 11:39-40

Isaiah 26:19

Revelation 20:5-6

Matthew 27:52-53

Revelation 7 they were sealed with the Holy Spirit and His immortal body

1 Timothy 6:16

Richard, may the Spirit grace us with HIS wisdom and His understanding.

When Christ returns with his saints to rule and judge this world then we will see:

Isaiah 26:9 With my soul I have desired in the night; yea, with my spirit within me will I speak early: for when thy JUDGEMENTS are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world WILL LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

Revelation 17:16-17 And the ten horns (overcomers, judges) which thou saw on the beast (man who does not have the name of their Father written in their forehead) shall hate the whore (those unfaithful to Christ their husband) and shall make her desolate and naked (judgement), and shall eat her flesh (judgement), and shall burn her with fire (judgement).

(vs 17) For God has put in their hearts to fulfil his will (turn the other cheek, love your enemies), and to AGREE (with him), and give THEIR KINGDOM unto the beast, until the words of God be fulfilled.

Revelations 15:4 ..... for ALL NATIONS shall come and worship before thee; for thy JUDGEMENTS are made manifest.

Psalms 67:7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him.

Isaiah 52:10 The LORD hath made bare his holy arm in the eyes of all the nations; and all the ends of the earth shall see the salvation of the God.

Lezbeth, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Revelation 22:16 I JESUS have sent my angel to testify unto you (you are the church) these things (that are revealed; by Revelation) in the CHURCHES....

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave to him (Christ), to show unto his servants (Christ's inheritance; Psalms 2:8) things which much SHORTLY (during your lifetime) come to pass......

1 Peter 1:21 WHO (YOU) by HIM (CHRIST) do BELIEVE....

Galatians 2:16 KNOWING that a man is not justified by the works of the law, BUT BY THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have BELIEVED (by HIM) in Jesus Christ, that we might be JUSTIFIED by THE FAITH OF Jesus Christ......

Christ has given you HIS FAITH

Revelation 2:26 And he (you; the church) that overcomes and keeps MY WORKS (remember he gives us HIS faith, His truth, His wisdom, His understanding, His council, everything that is HIS he gives to us as our inheritance; we are his children) unto the END (when you leave this body of flesh at it's death; now he is going to give you HIS BODY; HIS incorruptible and immortal self ( 1 Timothy 6:16)......

Revelation 20:5-6 .... This is the FIRST resurrection.

(vs 6) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the FIRST resurrection....

Remember he gives us what is HIS; he gives us HIS RESURRECTION. ( John 11:25)

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall LIVE, together with MY DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE...

This is the rapture of the church (you) individually not collectively.

Isaiah 27:12 ...ye shall be gathered ONE BY ONE....

Mathew 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken and the other left.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now we are THE BODY OF CHRIST.....

1 Corinthians 3:21 Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours (THROUGH THE WORKS OF CHRIST)

Lizbeth, May the Spirit grace you with His wisdom and His understanding.

Revelations 22:16 I JESUS SENT mine angel to testify unto you (you are the CHURCH) these things in the CHURCHES......

There might be a reason there is no mention of the rapture.

Do you think the un-called study God's word.

1 Peter 1:21 WHO (YOU) by HIM (CHRIST) do BELIEVE.........

Galatians 2:16 KNOWING that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by THE FAITH OF JESUS CHRIST, even we have BELIEVED (by HIM) in Jesus Christ, that we might be JUSTIFIED (not by the law) but by THE FAITH OF CHRIST (by him), and not the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Jesus GIVES you HIS FAITH

Revelation 2:26 And he (the church) that overcometh, and keepeth MY WORKS (remember it's his faith, his wisdom, his truth, his understanding, EVERYTHING HE IS becomes yours through inheritance, you are his child) unto the end (when you depart this body of flesh and are given HIS BODY; (HIS) incorruptible and immortality self becomes yours....

This is the rapture of the church (you) each one individually not collectively.

Isaiah 27:12 And it shall come to pass in that day...... ye shall be gathered ONE BY ONE...

Matthew 24:40 There shall be two in the field; the one shall be taken and the other left.

Revelation 20:5-6 .... this is the first resurrection.

(vs 5) Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection.....

Remember he gives you what is his; therefore he gives us his resurrection.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall LIVE together with MY DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE....

Nina, May the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His understanding.



Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

(53) and came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went in to the holy city, and appeared to many.

Understanding these scriptures takes other scriptures and the HOLY SPIRIT causing you to understand.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, TOGETHER WITH MY DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE......

This prophecy is three fold, Christ promises the (called out) saints of the old testament and the (called out) saints of the new testament along with (HIS) dead body would RISE TOGETHER.

Hebrews 11:16 But now they (saints of old) desire a better country, that is, a heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called there God: for he hath prepared them a (HOLY) CITY. The one in Matthew 27:53

Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all (saints of old), having obtained a good report through faith, RECEIVED NO THE PROMISE (eternal life, it would be given to them at Christ resurrection).

(40) God having provided some better thing for us (the called out of the new testament will never see death, we were resurrected with Christ), that they (saints of old) without us (new saints) should not be made perfect (image of Christ, who only hath immortality, [eternal life] 1 Timothy 6:16).

Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the called out) die any more (they [WE ARE SIN] died with Christ on the cross, were buried and arose with him): for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, BEING THE CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION.

Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord, YE HIS ANGELS, that excel in strength, that do his commandments,

hearkening unto the voice of his word.

Revelation 7:4 Describes the called out saints of the old testament that were sealed with the Holy Spirit (Christ).

Nina, May the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and His understanding.



Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

(53) and came out of the graves after HIS RESURRECTION, and went in to the holy city, and appeared to many.

Understanding these scriptures takes other scriptures and the HOLY SPIRIT causing you to understand.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men shall live, TOGETHER WITH MY DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE......

This prophecy is three fold, Christ promises the (called out) saints of the old testament and the (called out) saints of the new testament along with (HIS) dead body would RISE TOGETHER.

Hebrews 11:16 But now they (saints of old) desire a better country, that is, a heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called there God: for he hath prepared them a (HOLY) CITY. The one in Matthew 27:53

Hebrews 11:39-40 And these all (saints of old), having obtained a good report through faith, RECEIVED NO THE PROMISE (eternal life, it would be given to them at Christ resurrection).

(40) God having provided some better thing for us (the called out of the new testament will never see death, we were resurrected with Christ), that they (saints of old) without us (new saints) should not be made perfect (image of Christ, who only hath immortality, [eternal life] 1 Timothy 6:16).

Luke 20:36 Neither can they (the called out) die any more (they [WE ARE SIN] died with Christ on the cross, were buried and arose with him): for they are equal unto the angels; and are the children of God, BEING THE CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. THIS IS THE FIRST RESURRECTION.

Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord, YE HIS ANGELS, that excel in strength, that do his commandments,

hearkening unto the voice of his word.

Revelation 7:4 Describes the called out saints of the old testament that were sealed with the Holy Spirit (Christ).

I believe this is what you would be looking for, He went to preach unto the the souls that were lost in the great flood from Noah's day. As for Adam and Eve there is no indication to where they are, in heaven or hell that I'm aware of.

Genesis 5:5 "And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died."

1 Peter 3:19 Context 16 Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ. 17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing. 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: 22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

Can you please tell me when and why Jesus go to hell. Did Jesus take Adam & Eve out of Hell?

Simply put Faith is something you believe in without a doubt. example, when you sit in a chair that you have never sat in before, do you check it out to make sure that it is safe or do you just sit in it, trusting that it was built to hold a human weight. This, to me would be an example of Faith that it was built to be safe. Or when you see a little child and see the trust they have in their parents to protect and nourish them, this is another example of Faith. Throughout the NT there are many examples of Faith, John 20:25 Thomas who just spent 3 years with Jesus, but had doubt on His resurrection, until Jesus showed himself to him, Mark 5:25-34 is of a woman who had an issue of blood, and believed, and she was healed. Matthew 8:10 the Roman centurion believed and his servant was healed. Likewise as Christians we need to believe that Jesus death and resurrection on the cross is the only way to our salvation. Hebrews chapter 11 Paul explains faith in great detail, Matthew 18:3 tells us to become and believe as a child. I hope this helps.

John 20:25 "The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe."

Mark 5:25 And a certain woman, which had an issue of blood twelve years, 27 When she had heard of Jesus, came in the press behind, and touched his garment. 28 For she said, If I may touch but his clothes, I shall be whole. 29 And straightway the fountain of her blood was dried up; and she felt in her body that she was healed of that plague. Mark 5:34 "And he said unto her, Daughter, thy faith hath made thee whole; go in peace, and be whole of thy plague."

Matthew 8:10 "When Jesus heard it, he marvelled, and said to them that followed, Verily I say unto you, I have not found so great faith, no, not in Israel."

There is no requirement. It is a free gift from God. All you have to do is confess with your mouth that Jesus is the Son of God and believe in your heart that he was raised from the dead, you shall be saved.

What is faith

In order to be saved what is the requirement..? Believe in Jesus Christ and keep his commandments?

Barbara, may the Spirit grace you with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding. The traditions of man has distorted the true gospel. The traditions of man teaches heaven is a natural place with natural streets, natural buildings, natural walls and we exist much like we exist now; but the word of God teaches heaven is a person in a glorified body with no need for streets or houses or any thing existing in a natural state.

John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, but he (Christ in the same glorified body he existed in as Jehovah in the old testament) that came down from heaven (and became flesh), even the Son of man which is in heaven (now back in the glorified body he had before).

Let's try to comprehend what is depicted as (spiritual) heaven (where the Spirit dwells).

1 Corinthians 3:17 Know ye not that ye are the TEMPLE OF GOD, and the SPIRIT OF GOD dwelleth in you.

Isaiah 66:1 Thus saith the Lord (the Father), The heaven is my throne, and the earth (dust, flesh) is my footstool: where is the house that ye (Christ) build unto me? and where is the place of my (SPIRIT) rest?

Psalm 127:1 Except the Lord (Christ) build the house, they labour in vain .....

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a Son over his own house, whose house we are....

Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I overcame and am sit down with my Father in his throne.

John 17:21 That they ALL MAY BE ONE as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that THEY also may be ONE in us.....

1 Timothy 6:16 Who (CHRIST) only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto....

1 Corinthians 15:52-54 In a Moment....Death is swallowed up in victory.

Isaiah 26:19 Thy dead men (we are dead in our trespasses) shall Live, TOGETHER WITH MY (CHRIST) DEAD BODY SHALL THEY ARISE....

Revelation 20:5 .....This is the FIRST RESURRECTION.

Luke 20:34-36 .....Being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

John 14:2 In my Fathers house are many mansions...

I do believe everything in the Bible is true. The Bible becomes more easily understood when we understand the difference between God and Satan--between truth and lies. There are only two powers humans can serve, either God or Satan. There is no other choice.

I dont think that there are many people who are either totally good or totally evil ,we are all a mixture of both ,we are all sinners which is why we need Jesus ,right up to the last moment Jesus loved Judas ,Jesus will have washed Judas feet with love ,God doesnt give up on any of us no matter how horrible we are and we are all horrible sometimes ,Only Jesus is sinless .

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You also quote here Romans 11:32, "For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all", & then ask, "How can Christianity be saving the world at the same time?"

There's no question about 'Christianity saving the world' here. Paul is talking about the (spiritual) blindness of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles come in (v 25). As the Gentiles have not believed God, but now obtained God's Mercy because of Israel's unbelief (v 30), so Mercy comes to the Jews who now don't believe (the Gospel) (vv 28,31) with the same Mercy God has shown to the Gentiles.

So God has seen that all (Jew & Gentile alike) have lived in unbelief, & because of this, His Mercy is available to all. Nothing at all to do with Christians saving the world but of God Who shows Mercy to all of us.

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I took the liberty of checking in at your website, & though I scanned through some of the subjects you've addressed & noted that you've produced several books, I will admit that my comments are based purely on the oft mentioned "sin of Eden".

I understand that you believe that this sin is not pride, disobedience or anything else, but a sexual perversion (I won't mention here your description of it). I also note, in my cursory look around in your website, that there is no mention of how you arrived at this belief. I know you have used other Scriptures to show this perversion, but you have failed to deal with the sin of Adam & Eve, as declared in the Book of Genesis. So anyone who has an iota of biblical knowledge & understanding of some basic Truths, will immediately ask, 'From where has this information come?' There's not even a reference to this in any other book of the Bible, & even where Adam & Eve are mentioned, this sin that you accuse them of, is mysteriously absent. And please don't think that I'm going to 'throw the baby out with the bath water', as that would be foolish, as I'm sure you have shared some very useful, truthful observations elsewhere, but at this first 'hurdle', one with any understanding of the Bible is left dumbfounded.

May I ask, 'From where did you learn this?' It can't be from the Scriptures, maybe from some extra-biblical writings or some other publication that has no correlation to the Bible.

Hi Marilyn,

When you say "an answer has not been given" do you mean that you are genuinely seeking understanding by carefully reading the Bible yourself? Or do you mean that you expect people to just provide you answers at your service? Of course people are willing to help if someone is genuinely trying to find answers, but if their motive is something else, then that person shouldn't expect people to do work for you.

You asked a lot of questions and it would be easier to address questions one at a time. The way you asked them sounds consistent with someone who is frustrated, but isn't actually interested in the right answer and maybe just venting.

Obviously there are clear, and logical questions to each one you asked if you were patient to hear the answer.

Sometimes someone carries a bias against Christianity in assuming that Christianity must meet a certain burden of proof standard that a person invents in their own mind. They assume by default that it must not be true. But the problem is you exist. You are a walking miracle. Your heart beats for no reason- literally nothing is keeping you alive right now, except the miracle of God's power giving you life. He can take it away at any moment and that's His right to do so. Life is temporary anyway- every one dies then something happens which we haven't yet experienced ourselves. But look around. Look at how amazing life is and how beautiful it is. Things we try to make we often try to mimic nature's amazing designs, like airplanes. And imagine a car with all its features inventing itself and evolving from an explosion. No rational person believes that. But somehow rational people bought into the lie that our own bodies- way more advanced than cars- just randomly resulted from an explosion and time passing. That takes more faith than believing a creator.

Let me ask: If you found out that everything in the Bible is true, would you believe it? If you found out Christianity was true, would you become a Christian?

Yes, I am looking for answers. So far an answer has not been given as to what was the sin in Eden. I have found no single answer to the trinity or how to explain the Holy Spirit. Why after 2000 years of Christianity are there so many questions Christianity cannot explain or answer? Why are there over 60 different denominations with each one telling their own variation of truth? Jesus is the truth made flesh and his truth is the same for all people. I believe some day we will have one denomination and truth will be the same for all.

God tells us he will conclude the world in unbelief. How can Christianity be saving the world at the same time God is concluding it in belief? We are told that when Jesus comes the condition of the human race will be the same as it was in the days of Noah--only a few who believe in God and the majority believe in Satan. Is that the condition of mankind today? Don't you think we need a better explanation as to what the sin in Eden was?

I have a website, alawfromeden that will give you my 50 years of biblical research on the condition of the human race today.

Yes, the tree was the knowledge of good and evil. Knowledge of good. Knowledge of evil. One big difference between God and Satan is God is truth and Satan is lies. Adam and Eve believed a lie when they left God to serve Satan. All those who serve Satan have departed from truth. If those who commit evil were to become pastors and stand behind the pulpit they would tell us no truth. But what was that lie. What is the evil that changes a person's God from God to Satan? What is the definition of evil?

That's Proverbs 8:13, but in any case, the biblical definition of evil, as I understand it, is 'any physical or mental act by anyone that contradicts or violates God's Holiness, His Commands & His Requirements'.

Where evil began, was in the heavenlies, as the "covering cherub" ( Ezek 28:14,15), using his power of choice, allowed pride to develop in a skewed way resulting in anger & rebellion against the Most High. He, as all the beings in God's Presence, ought to have been 'proud' to be created to worship & serve the Eternal God, living in all Holiness & Perfection, but Satan allowed what ought to be directed towards God to be reversed & directed to himself. And that has been the root of man's sin from the beginning: that he can be as God, to fulfil his own will & desires, disregarding what is true & holy. From the 'smallest white lie' to the most heinous of crimes, they all demonstrate man's pride to believe that he has the power to rule his life, for he alone is the god of his life.

Mark ch 8 v 33..also ,the tree was the tree of the KNOWLEDGE of good and evil. Also Mark ch 7 v 21-23 .

Marilyn Taplin, With the guidance of Satan, Adam and Eve became self-centered, pride, instead of God-centered, as was intended for them. God gave Adam a commandment, not a choice. The separation from God was not him leaving them. They died, per the commandment, God continued living as omnipresent to his creation. Evil is that which is not of God, and we can know God from his word/Son."

"Depart from evil, and do good..." If a person departs from evil, what are they departing from?" They are departing from that which God has instructed to be not of him.

"the knowledge of how to bring heaven to earth." Your desire/plan is not in God's plan, therefore, "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." 2Timothy 2:15

Marilyn, Are you really looking for answers, or an excuse to believe as you think seems right to you?

Hi Marilyn, Evil didn't start in Eden, Isaiah 45:7, I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. I think you are meaning "The tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil" Genesis 2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. What happened to man wants he ate of that tree? Genesis 3:7, And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were "NAKED"; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons. naked in the bible often expresses sin exposed, and garments often expresses righteousness. Some would say Adam and Eve was clothed with light before the fall, The question is when did they become naked/sinful? When they bit of the fruit? I believe eating of the tree of knowledge of good and evil revealed their nakedness to them, The issue was what they did afterwards, "clothed themselves". Their fall was no surprise to God, he set forth the plan of redemption before the world begun, 1st Peter 1:18-20. Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world. The scripture says by one man sin entered the world, not evil. I believe there is a difference between the two by means of definition. Apart from the Holy Spirit man is flesh and lost in the wilderness, and easy prey for Satan. In the millennium man will have a thousand years in the best conditions to evolve with Satan chained up, and prove himself. but after all those years of practice here is what happens. Revelation 20:7-8, And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison, 8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth. THKS

When speaking of us humans, evil began in Eden. The tree of good and evil was in Eden. Adam and Eve departed from God to follow Satan. They committed evil. What evil did they commit that would result in God leaving them? How does one depart from God? In Psalms 34:14 we are instructed to "Depart from evil, and do good..." If a person departs from evil, what are they departing from?

I believe humankind needs a better definition of evil. When we know what evil removed us from Eden, we have the knowledge of how to bring heaven to earth.

Where in the Bible does it say that please ? I cant find it in Genesis ,is it in the new testament ? Thankyou .