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Hi Bob,

Obviously you took my post incorrectly. I'll try using Scriptures again.

I never said Christ and the Father was not a relationship. You brought this up. I never said Christ is the Father or the Father is Christ as it seems you took it. I know it's a Father Son relationship. Again John 10:30, John 14:11, John 17:21. Revelation 3:21. For a couple.

Some say the Father being in Christ means He left Heaven. God spoke from Heaven several times proving that false. Matthew 3:17, Matthew 17:5, John 12:28.

Here are a couple stating the Spirit of Truth or Holy Ghost as He/Him: John 14:17, John 14:26. Putting the three in ONE as in 1 John 5:7.

As I've been trying to answer your questions though you seemed to have veered from mine. No one knows the depths and ways of God. He can do anything He wants. Isaiah 40:28, Isaiah 55:8-9. Just like giving all His power and authority to His Son so we honor Him just as we honor the Father. Matthew 28:18, John 5:22-23. Not knowing your beliefs on this but no one can say Christ did not exist before He was born here. Christ Himself stated this and there are other Scriptures that back this up also. John 17:4-5. All I do is use the Scriptures. I have no private interpretation as that is not what the Scriptures are for. 2 Peter 1:20.

Nothing is falling apart for me. I've given you many Scriptural verses as I have not seen one from you. Also I really don't even know your motive for making the first post the other night. The reason I made the reply is because you said something about a "man made trinity doctrine". Which I showed you is not man made it's Biblical.

Still not getting into how many titles the Father and Son share. Not knowing if it would make any difference to you.

I'm not here to argue and don't take my post that way please. You may have your own view.

Again as I hope I've answered your questions. I'll just leave the one again.

Do you believe the Scriptures I've posted?

Thank you. God Bless.

What an amazing chapter !

Isaiah 40

Early part of the chapter is the coming of the Lord and restoration of the Israel of God .

Verse 15 to 24 creation from Gods point of view .

Verse 25 really stands out .

" To whom then will ye liken me , or shall I be equal ? Saith the Holy One .

Verse 31 But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; ....

Amen !

Isaiah 40:28 (KJV) Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that THE EVERLASTING GOD, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

Isaiah 43:13 (KJV) Yea, before the day was I am he; and there is none that can deliver out of my hand: I will work, and who shall let it?

Psalms 90:2 (KJV) Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.

The Deity of Christ bridging over from the old testament on to the new testament.

Malachi 2:17- Malachi 3:1. Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts.

Isaiah 40:3. The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Mark 1:2-4

As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

NOTE: In Isaiah and Malachi the plural form for God is used. ( El-o-heem' ) as it is in Deuteronomy 6:4.

Who was the messenger preparing the way for God as mentioned? 'John the baptist'

When God came who did he show up as? " The Lord Jesus Christ. God bless.

Hello Richard Curtiss,

Are you referring to the KJV of 1611? If so, I take it you have not thoroughly read it because it has many references to the name or names of GOD. I have listed a few here: I AM THAT I AM ( means sender) Exodus 3:14

: JEHOVAH ( means God Almighty, Most High, Everlasting and so on.Ex6:3

: JESUS (means Savior, The Word) John 1:14.

: ISAIAH 40:28

It's too many to mention on this platform; but I hope this list will help you or do you have something else to share or enlighten? God bless you

Hi Wayne, what the Bible says about flat or round earth has been asked/answered recently, but maybe it wasn't yours.

Isaiah 40:22 says the circle of the earth which to me means round as a globe. This is reinforced by anyone who travels and knows they can fly in the same direction and end up where you started. There are other scientific ways to prove the earth is round too which is consistent with the Bible.

The verse you refer to say the 4 corners of the earth. To me, nothing in this verse indicates that the earth is flat. Revelations is also full of symbolism and visions which needs to be taken into consideration.

God bless...

The Bible said the earth was round (circle) back when the world's best and brightest scientists thought it was flat: Isaiah 40:22

After 46 years of finding a grace to raise my hands in thankful worship when a gratefulness graces me to do so. Ive been so encouraged of late with Ps 141:2. And now with this bold testimony of Elijahs again.Let my prayer be set forth before thee as incense; and the lifting up of my hands as the evening sacrifice. My assembly does not lean readilly to this but an increase over the years, especially among the more earnest 30 to 40 aged women. We are a 1 Cor 11:1 to 16 Apostolic people. 1940s to the 80s Six of the Seven Presbyterian Wilson brothers were filled with the Holy *GHOST* with Jude 20 KJV manifestation, and started Six Churches throughout New Zealand. The reticent Seveth son, Fred Wilson was moved to plant The Church of Christ NZ Mt Roskill, which has satelite branches as does their planting in Osaka a Sister fellowship. A strong KJV base they were until Fred Wilson, the Apostles passing, later allowed the NKJV to usurp the KJV veracity, and personally I say sadly, as the fire has shown a weakening since. Verses messed with, not just spoil memory treasures but :weaken > John 1:12 to :confuse >meek with gentle to a : great travesty> Jeremiah 23 33 to 40 where the confusing wordoracle replacing the word burden. Removing the severe warning to any who even hint at the *ETERNAL ALMIGHTY* being able to be burdened in any way, Isaiah 40:17. Especially when such grace offered to the weakest Saint who would receive it 2 Cor 9:8. And the word may is slipping into the Benediction decree. And to put prayer into an always bowed head stance, is robbing us all of the great need to be instant in prayer, even at least one hand authoritatively raised at certain times. Form is replacing intimacy and power, which can only lead to infirmity at length, as we all are so faithfully chastened betimes. Revelation 3:19, *G* B Uall, Ps 138:8 Proverbs 8:30,31KJV. Philippians 1:6 will perform for the faithful, but those who neglect shall be counted among the lukewarm Prov 29:1.

Thank you for your reply Dianne. I was thinking that was the verse you were pertaining to. As Isaiah 40:22 and Job 26:10 use the same Hebrew word spoken "chuwg". Interesting it has two different Strongs numbers although the same exact word. Meaning to encircle or circle.

As I really don't want to get into this much as I know my brothers and sisters on here may not agree with me and I do not wish to raise quarrel. Although I will just state this. In Isaiah 22:18 he states "ball". The Hebrew word pronounced "duwr". Meaning ball/circle. Which I would think would pertain more to a sphere shape than "chuwg". Isaiah knew the difference between a circle and a ball and so did the writers of the KJV Bible.

Again, as I could go on I will not because the shape of the earth is not the important thing. Jesus Christ our Lord is. Even though it may help people turn toward God I do not want to make division here between my brothers and sisters in Christ.

God Bless.

Richard Isaiah 40:22, job 26:10 the Hebrew word compassed meaning circle,

Mark 1:2-3 (KJV) As it is written in the prophets, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.

Isaiah 40:3-5 - The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.

Every valley shall be exalted, and every mountain and hill shall be made low: and the crooked shall be made straight, and the rough places plain:

And the glory of the LORD shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.

Here's more scriptures in the old testament why we believe in the trinity.

Malachi 2:17 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or,

( Where is the God of judgment? ) ""Notice ch 3.1."" Malachi 3:1 (KJV) Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. ""Now let's tie this together with a few more verses"" ( Isaiah 40:3-The voice of him that crieth in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the LORD, make straight in the desert a highway for our God.) Now let's see who came as these 2 characters. Matthew 11:10 - ( For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.) John the baptists came in the office of Elijah and God came manifested in the flesh. ( If he didn't Malachi, Isaiah and Jesus got it wrong. )

I believe that the world should have an in sync prayer at the same exact time each day no matter what time zone we are in. We need to come together as one and Praise God for all he has done and is doing for us. Hopefully His Love will prove to hatred that Love Conquers All. In Jesus Christ Holy Name AMEN!!!

Isaiah 40:8

8. T G W T F F B T W O O G S S F E 8. The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: but the word of our God shall stand for ever.

Waiting upon the Lord (40.31) in my view has two complementary elements, serving and anticipating his future calling to act and serve, a truly fundamental and inspirational promise that believers ''walk and not faint''.

THE WOMAN IN REVELATION 12.

Here's a verse that is widely debated. I think we can determine by looking at the description of her, and the series of events concerning her in Ch 12 and prophecies pointing to those events in the bible. "you'll need your bibles". VS 1, the description, "She was clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of 12 stars". If we go to Genesis 37:9-10. Joseph dreams and Jacob answers this one for us. Now compare the events in prophecy to Revelation 12. VS 2, She's travailing in birth pains, Isaiah 54:1-5. Is 66:7, ( BEFORE SHE TRAVAILED, SHE BROUGHT FORTH; BEFORE HER PAIN CAME, SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MAN CHILD.) Also look at Micah 4:10, and Micah 5:2-4. Revelation 12:14 say she was given 2 wings of a eagle, a phrase the Lord uses throughout the bible concerning Israel, Exodus 19:4' Isaiah 40:27-31. Deuteronomy 32:10-11. Look at Paul concerning the Israelites in Romans 9:5, "Whose are the fathers, and whom as concerning the flesh Christ came. THE WOMAN IS ISRAEL, Not the church. The church did not exist until after the child was born died on the cross raised the third day went to the father then gave the Holy Spirit to the believers. Thank you.

He is taking to Esdras. And this is saying any nation outside of the ISRAELITES are compared to spit. Isaiah 40:17 says the same thing. The text in 2 Esdras 6:55-56 it gets more specific about who GOD is NOT call spit

@ Charlie

The Most High is talking about the other nations. Whoever is not a part of The Twelves of Israel. The Most High only cares about The Children of Israel. He does not care about the other nations. That is why He has likened their abundance to spittle and a drop.

Supporting Precept ( Isaiah 40:17)

That's a great message & great Truths you shared, Anna. Our eyes need to be turned upward & not sideways or looking back. Our hope, our strength, & our deliverance lies only in the Lord of Glory. Man will fail us, Satan may buffet us, but God is our confidence & joy in all our circumstances because He is our Light, our Strength & the One we worship with all of our being. Looking anywhere else will assuredly bring on doubt & fear. Isaiah 40:31.

Isaiah 40:8 God says, "The grass withers, the flower fades; but the word of our God will stand for ever." time is irrelevant .

Lets have the Bible interpret:

Psalms

Chapter 23

1 (A Psalm of David.) The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

( Isaiah 40:11)

( John 10:11)

( 1 Peter 2:25)-For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

( Rev 7:15-17)-For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

( Psalm 19:7-9)-the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof.

7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.

8 The statutes of the LORD are right, rejoicing the heart: the commandment of the LORD is pure, enlightening the eyes.

9 The fear of the LORD is clean, enduring for ever: the judgments of the LORD are true and righteous altogether.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

( Psalm 3:3-8)

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

( Revelation 21:6,7)-

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

( Luke 6:36,37)

36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven:

Isaiah ch 40 v 25 ,26,27,28,29,30,31

To whom then will ye liken me , or shall I be equal ? Dairy the Holy One .

But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength:they shall mount up with wings of eagles ;they shall run and not be weary; and they shall walk and not faint .

The Great Commission of Matthew 28:19 is one of the greatest commands in the Bible. Jesus told his disciples to "GO". We are to go therefore and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the HolyGhost. Baptism is essential. If it were not, Jesus would not have given us this command. We Must baptize by immersion, the way they did it in biblical times, in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son, and HolyGhost. Father, Son, and HolyGhost are not a single name. So what is the name of the Father, and what is the name of the Son, and what is the name of the HolyGhost. Jesus said in St. John 17:6 that He manifested the name of the Father to the world. Colossians clearly tells us that all of Godhead rest in Jesus( Colossians 2:9). Therefore, we are to be baptized in the Name of Jesus. None of the apostles baptized using the titles Father, Son, and HolyGhost. They understood the Great Commission that He gave them. Jesus is the Name of the Father, Son, and the HolyGhost. He is the Father in creation. All things were made by Him(John1:3). He is the Son in redemption; for without the shedding of blood, there would be no remission of sin. God is a Spirit. The invisible God became visible in flesh(John1:14; Isaiah 40:3; 1Timothy3:16; Revelation 1:13; Colossians 2:9, etc) Jesus is the HolyGhost that fell on believers in the upper room ( Acts 2:4). No one in biblical times was baptized any other way--except in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. This Great Commission is going all over the world. Jesus is the Messiah, He is the name of Savior of the world. Neither is there salvation in any other for there is no other name under heaven given whereby we must be saved( Acts 4:12). Therefore, we must adhere to the words of the Great Commission given by our Savior and go into the world baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the HolyGhost. Teaching them to observe all things, and lo I am with you even unto the end of the world

It says in the bible..

exodus 20.8-11 remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work, but the seventh day is the sabbath of the lord thy god, in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates.

for in six days the lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day, wherefore the lord blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

what day is the true sabbath day because some people say it's sunday and others say that it's friday sunset to an after saturday sunset ?

and how can we be sure because the only clue that i can find in the bible is in genesis 1.5 and god called the light day, and the darkness he called night. and the evening and the morning were the first day.

this suggest that sunset to sunset is a day, but this doesn't tell me which day is the sabbath is on, so how can we be sure which day is right ?

And AMEN sister!

In my experience angels can work invisible. I heard them seriously beat up a "spirit" that had tried to break my neck.

We are not to worship Them. We give praise to God. I learned that they report directly to God. So no one can order the angels around. Ask and then Praise the Lord Mightily for your help.

Some of the best scriptures for prayer are found searching the word, 'favor.'

Be careful of who you ask questions.

-Jesus

Hello,

How do really know what truth is? Have you ever been on the wrong side of something before?

I have a hard time relating to the flat earth perspective for 2 reasons:

1. Scripture

2. Scientific evidence that can be easily reproduced

So, I guess I'll offer my evidence and you can offer yours?

1. Isaiah 40:22 - says the circle of the earth. I interpret this as a globe, not a flat pancake.

2. There are so many easy experiements you can do on your own. I've already done them, so I know the Earth is round, but you can easily do these yourself:

a. Fly in a plane around the world. You can easy fly to where you are right now to the opposite side of the earth and have your phone on with GPS tracking and track the GPS coordinates of where you are at all times. Then book your return flight the opposite way back home. Just keep going in the same direction and you will end up where you started at home.

b. Secondly, you can do this easier and cheaper. Get 2 stakes identical in length and put one in your yard and setup a web camera which can monitor and measure its shadow. Then go on a trip to either west or east and set up the same stake in the ground at the exact same depth with a level- perfectly straight then measure the length of the shadow. When you measure it simply compare it to the shadow on your phone or tablet with your web cam and you can see the shadow lengths are different. If you measure this with the distance away you are you can calculate the diameter of the earth.

c. Get on a plane and go very high and see curvature.

d. Get on a plane and fly towards the west and you will have a more than 24 hr day, because of the sun and curve of the earth, the opposite if you travel east.

e. There's countless photos/videos documenting the earth. You can make your own too, release a balloon high in the air with a camera.

f. If earth was flat it would have an end, but there's no end. You can walk, boat, fly yourself to prove it. I have already. Why don't you?

Ralph, Malachi 3:1 Behold I (Jesus) will send my (Jesus') messenger (John the Baptist) , and he (John) shall prepare the way before me (Jesus): And the Lord (Jesus) whom you seek, shall suddenly come to his (Jesus) temple ( I Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that you are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you) , even the messenger of the covenant (Jesus), whom ye delight in: behold he (Jesus) shall come, saith the Lord of host. Matthew 3:1-3 In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judea. (vs) 2 And saying, repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. (vs) 3 For this is he (Elijah) that was spoken of by the prophet E-sai-as (Isaiah), Isaiah 40:3 saying, the voice of one (John) crying in the wilderness, prepare ye the way of the Lord (Jesus), make his (Jesus') paths straight. May the Spirit grace you with his understanding.

The West will be attacked by the east; the sign of the times have changed dramatically. Don't know when it will happen, however, it's coming. The end of times as we know it. Let's continue to pray and ask God for guidance. If God would have dealt with us according to our individual sin; no one would be left. Comment on I Isaiah cheaper 40.

He is near our savior is at the door. We need to wake up and see the sign of the times. Everything passes but his word. He is coming and has prepared a place for us who believe in Christ. Lets surrender all to him and be lead by his Holy Spirit so we can shine his light in the darkness that surrounds us in this world. So others can come to him before it is to late. Praise you Jesus for you blessed and mighty word. May you be glorified in our lives as we live for you. Yes come Lord Jesus!!! The Bride awaits her Husband!!! Amen!!!