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  • ELB - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Giannis, who is Satan?

    Everything has an OPPOSITE.

    The tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil (opposites).

    The word Of God is BUILT AROUND PARABLES, tree, or trees, is signified (represents something other than what it is in the physical).

    Christ is a Lamb, TREE OF LIFE ETC.

    The New Testament parables teach that we are the garden of God (Eden). Isaiah 5:7 Ezekiel 31:8

    The TREE of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil exist in the midst of the garden (CHRIST is this tree, as he is also the tree of Life) In the midst of the garden.

    Colossians 1:27 ..this mystery ...CHRIST IN YOU ..

    We have only knowledge of evil, until Christ (the Holy Ghost) releases, or causes, us to have the mind of Christ (then we sprout and eventually become a tree, also. Isaiah 6:13 Ezekiel 47:7 Revelation 22:1-2

    There is ONLY ONE SPIRIT, but the KNOWLEDGE of that ONE SPIRIT contains both good and evil.

    Genesis 3:22 ....the man has BECOME LIKE ONE OF US (the man has become like God) to know good and evil....

    Before man ate (the words of God), which is the TREE of KNOWLEDGE (Christ), he was the Child of SATAN (no knowledge).

    You are BORN AGAIN by THE WORD'S OF GOD.

    1 Peter 1:23 BEING BORN AGAIN ....by the WORD'S OF GOD ...

    Now Satan (DARKNESS)(lies, deception, falsehoods) has been DESTROYED and LIGHT SHINES FORTH.

    Isaiah 45:7 I FORM THE LIGHT, AND CAUSE DARKNESS: I make peace, and create evil ..

    Isaiah 9:2 The people that waked in DARKNESS, have seen a GREAT LIGHT ...

    WHO IS SATAN?

    1 Corinthians 2:6 Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are PERFECT (born of truth), yet not the WISDOM OF THIS WORLD, nor of THE PRINCES OF THIS WORLD (children of Satan living in lies, deception and falsehoods, children of death and the grave).

    1 Corinthians 2:8 Which none of the PRINCES of this world knew, for had they known it, they would not have crucified the LORD OF GLORY.

    Matthew 12:38 But if I (our God is a consuming FIRE) cast out devils (lies, deception, falsehoods) ...then the KINGDOM IS COME
  • S Spencer - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4 - 2 years ago
    Hi Kay.

    Thanks for your reply.

    I've never heard a pre-trib view taught that there is 3 comings of Christ, I always understood that there is the 1st coming and the second coming to Earth.

    The rapture is called the "harpazo" in the Greek. meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize," The Lord don't come to the earth, We go to him!

    1 Thessalonians 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD IN THE AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    His second coming he comes to the Earth with judgment.

    In these 2nd coming verses there's no mention of the removal of saints.

    Here's just a few of many.

    Zechariah 14:4.

    Revelation 19:11-16,

    Revelation 20:1-6.

    Matthew 25:31-32.

    The 2nd coming he comes with his saints.

    If he raptured in his 2nd coming when he comes and make war against the nations who's going to populate the Millennium?

    Here's parallel verses to

    Mathew 24:31.

    Isaiah 11:12.

    Jeremiah 23:7-8.

    Jeremiah 16:14-15.

    Ezekiel 34:12-13.

    Isaiah 45:4.

    Goodnight Kay and God bless.
  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Elect; chosen, Isaiah 42:1, 2Timothy 2:10, Isaiah 45:4, Titus 1:1, Matthew 24:22, Isaiah 65:9, 1st CHRIST Jesus, then His followers Romans 11:7,

    Election ; 2Peter 1:10,

    1Corinthians 12,

    Hopefully these are helpful,

    Though I didn't fully understand what you were asking
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Ndubuaku Iluoma,

    Omega is the last letter in Greek, the big O indicates the end, the last, ultimate limit, finish, conclusion, Omega is the finish of an event, without needing to be explained. We see Alpha and Omega, the first and the last, and the beginning and the end/ing in Revelation. In Isaiah 45:9-10 it is reversed, "the end from the beginning"

    In Isaiah 46 they were hauling all that gold and silver and would make idols and pray to them and God was telling them He is the only true God, from the beginning until the things that are not done is done, Revelation 10:7. His counsel, His will, and His pleasure will stand. In the beginning, the bounds of habitation have been determined for all the nations on earth, Acts 17:26.

    Jesus, Alpha and Omega, the beginning of the creation, Revelation 3:14 and Jesus will be the end when Jesus delivers up the kingdom to God and the last enemy, death is destroyed, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    It should be noted that "accepting" Jesus is something the demons do according to James (and rather sarcastically at that). He is feared among them for His authority; but not worshipped as they gave up their rightful place through rebellion that they were created for. Christ is Lord over all creation; as all will bow down before Him. ( Isaiah 45:23). In terms of Savior; all those who are called are chosen. This is in a sense Him "accepting us" as He does into the beloved ( Ephesians 1:6). Even repentance is a gift according to other verses in Acts 11:18 for one example.

    If we HAVE heard of Christ; then we can either worship Him and fall on our knees; or reject Him. This is how man understands God based on whether the Holy Spirit has truly done a work in him. Often; though we don't read John 3:16 as something beyond a one time act; it is worded that way though as a continual ongoing process. A true believer; according to Romans goes on to be glorified ( Romans 8:30). Time is infinite with God's perspective; as many things were decided before the foundation of the world. We can see this in Revelation; as well as all will worship the Beast not written in the Book of Life before the foundation of the world ( Rev. 13:8).

    If we haven't heard of Him; then surely God will send a dream; vision or missionary as evidenced by many Muslims and others in the world today. Abraham was called and sent away from his pagan origins to the land of Promise by the Lord.

    If we truly seek Him; there may be a process but we will find the truth. Romans 1 and Psalm 19 make man without excuse; as clearly in the Creation evidence of Him is seen. In all that we see how short we are of His glory; a tattered fallen Creation; and our need for rescue from inevitable physical death as well as begin to see a righteousness that we cannot obtain or reach in our fleshy nature. Ecclesiastes also states how God has put "eternity in their hearts." ( Ecclesiastes 3:11).
  • Cecil - 2 years ago
    Isaiah 45:7 God's ways are kind of like our ways, in some ways. At the 6th trumpet God uses a foreign army to bring judgment to "His" wayward people (Babylon) for their disobedience. God is so proud of His 6th trumpet army, His beast army, and the leader who executes His will ( Joel 2:11). Then we come to find out that God is angry at the beast for doing what God had asked of him; destroy Babylon. If God didn't want Isaiah 24 or Obadiah results, why did He bless Russian scientists with the ability to destroy nations? God behaves akin to a mafia boss, just follow the narrative.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Shelly.

    When God said to Abraham I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you.

    THIS DOESN'T MEAN YOU WILL

    BE ABLE TO SLIP IN THE BACK DOOR TO HEAVEN.

    THOSE BLESSED WILL STILL BE JUDGED!!

    The Lord never depended on man's heart to do his will, Especially when dealing with Israel.

    The Lord would condition man's heart to line up with his will, at the same time judge them righteously.

    1) We see this with the Jews in Egypt, God conditioned the Pharoah heart for Joseph going in to Egypt.

    2) We see the Lord condition the Pharoah heart "Hardened it" for his purpose when he led them out of Egypt.

    You see this similar occasion in Babylon, Persia ect.

    The Lord builds up for his purpose whether it's a nation or a man to run a nation, He's able to do that without neglecting to judge that Nation.

    One of my favorite examples is

    Isaiah 45:1-7.

    It was God that blessed those Nations to serve his purpose.

    It was God that blessed United States to serve his purpose.

    It was God put it on their hearts.

    It was God put it on the U.S heart.

    I dont believe it was originally in our hearts to support Israel,

    The United States, Cuba, and Canada turned a ship of refugees back right before World War 2. and "BEFORE" the holocaust.

    And also Hitler put a redemption price on the Jews for two dollars a head.

    We could have bought them.

    There is only one Nation in focus when it comes to prophecy and that's Israel.

    There will be people gathered out of "EVERY NATION"to go be with the Lord in the rapture. The world and all these Nations will go on.

    Some people think blessing Israel is an Atonement for Past, Present, and Future sins.

    But we must humble ourselves and realize it's God who raises and builds up, and it's God who protects Israel and always did.

    God bless.
  • S.Spencer. - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Amen. I think it's a great idea to keep our Governing nation in prayer, and pray they let God govern their hearts!

    When Israel did right by the Lord he gave them rest and the spirit of the lord rested on the leaders! Numbers 11:25-29.

    As a nation we've put together great writings on paper and we Identfied ourselves by these writings but we never accomplished what we have in writing. Sort of reminds you of Israel doesn't it? Actually Israel didn't just have the law written on skin, they had the Lord in their midst. But his laws wasn't written on there hearts! And this is the only geographical nation/Country that has been set apart by the Lord.

    That ought to humble every other nation! God has raised up nations in the past to do his will and then judge that nation!

    Habakkuk 1:5-6.

    Jeremiah 25:11-12.

    God used Assyria and Babylon to chastise Israel and turn the rod on them.

    God raises up great kings to do his will!

    Isaiah 45:1.

    Ezekiel 29:18-20.

    Pride goeth before destruction and an haulty spirit before a fall.

    All these nations fell! Now Let's look at Israel. Ezekiel 16:48-50. Notice verses 49 and 50? You noticed God called sodom Israels sister! When God brought Israel out of Egypt God called them his son. He was a father and a husband to them. But they turned from God so at this point he's telling them they have the same father as Sodom, and we know who that is!

    "He's not governing there heart" but there will come a time he will. Jeremiah 31:31-34. Noticed verse 33? He will put his law in their inward parts!

    Looking at Israel and the way the Lord raised up nations and later judged them should humble us!

    There will come a time when his nation will be taken out of the world and he will deal with all the worlds nations.

    Joel 3:2.

    So let's pray the lost people of ALL nations humble themselves and get on a tract they have NEVER been on.

    God bless and goodnight.
  • Jeremiah on John 3 - 3 years ago
    According to John 3:13 -

    How did Abraham be live in heaven, Jesus relates to that no one had gone to heaven before him?

    So all man before Christ does not go to Heaven :)

    It is quite reasonable because God - the Real Father of the Christ - created a garden - the Eden ;)

    And Father of Christ want to RE-new the whole Globe - So in revelation says about new Earth

    so every man will be in that new Earth that links us to Exactly ISAIAH 45:18 where is about Earth,

    that will be "inhabited".

    Link
  • Chris - In Reply on Romans 9 - 3 years ago
    Hi James. I know, that word 'hate' can be very pointed & ugly, especially when seen in the Scriptures. We need to realize that 'hate' as seen here & other places, can have several meanings. The word in Greek is 'miseo', & of course, it does mean 'to hate' but also can have other meanings according to application, i.e. 'to detest, to love less, to esteem less'. So, it's not always an ugly uncontrolled emotion that is shown. You can think of Luke 14:26, "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." Did the Lord mean to say that we are to feel such hatred for our family just so that we can truly follow Him? Or did He mean that we need to esteem Him more, putting Him first in everything even to giving our family second place?

    And then we have another conundrum as seen in Isaiah 45:7: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." I share this verse simply to demonstrate the usage & understanding of languages. In Isaiah, we read of two strange phenomena: God creating darkness & creating evil. Can a God Who is altogether Light & altogether Holy & Good create such things? Some might say, yes, because He is God. Rather we should consider that in light of Who God is, maybe the creation of darkness, is actually God removing His Light. Maybe the creation of evil, is God removing His Peace. Darkness is always the default just as is Evil the present default in the World. We enjoy both physical & spiritual Light because of God's intervention through Christ ( Colossians 1:16,17; John 8:12) - we also enjoy great quietness & enjoyment of life because God by His Spirit is holding back the full onslaught of evil ( 2 Thessalonians 2:7).

    Therefore Romans 9:13 & Malachi 1:2,3 that speak of 'hating Esau', can only mean that Esau was hated (rejected) in God's Plan, just as Jacob was loved (accepted).
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Adam:

    Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

    Philippians 2:11 And every tongue should confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    You said when this happens you are saved.

    All mankind, at some point in this age or in the ages to come, is going to bow the knee and confess Jesus is Lord, therefore all mankind will be saved.

    Romans 14:11

    Isaiah 45:23

    Man cannot be in HELL and also CONFESSING JESUS IS LORD.
  • Look and see - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 45:22

    Look unto me , and be ye saved , all the ends of the earth ;For I am God , and there is none else .

    New Testament

    1 Timothy 1.1

    Paul an apostle of Jesus Christ by the commandment of God our saviour , and Lord Jesus Christ , which is our hope ; 2 unto Timothy, my own son in the faith : Grace , mercy ,and peace , from God our father and Jesus Christ our Lord .

    No mention of the Holy Spirit . Notice that . The Father and his Son Jesus Christ , who is the mediator between man and God .
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 12:50 - 3 years ago
    Brother Nic, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    The Holy Spirit, through men, wrote the WORD(S) of God ( 2 Peter 1:21).

    To blaspheme the Holy Spirit is to NOT BELIEVE the Words of God.

    Everyone blasphemes the Holy Spirit; until the Holy Spirit intervenes an CAUSES that person to BELIEVE ( Philippians 1:29).

    The word you have to believe are not just a few scriptures (words) but ALL the scriptures (words).

    Matthew 12:31-32 says they wont be forgiven in this AGE or in the AGE to follow.

    Do you know how many AGES God has ordain in the AGE that has no beginning and no end. No we don't know.

    God's word says that after this AGE and the AGE to follow, that they will be saved.

    Isaiah 26:9 ...When thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the earth will LEARN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

    Isaiah 45:23 ...That unto me every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess ....

    Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow ......

    Philippians 2:11 And every tongue shall confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    1 Timothy 4:10 ...Who is the saviour of ALL MEN, specially those that BELIEVE.

    This is going to be fulfilled some time after this AGE and the AGE to follow.

    Sadly most don't believe these words of God.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious brother Chris, thanks so much for your kind words of encouragement! I did have your verse in my list of over 150 Scriptures for The LORD JESUS CHRIST As Being The Almighty God! It was #:

    113. JESUS CHRIST is Called "My God" ( John 20:28). Since there is "no other God" ( Isaiah 45:5) ( Isaiah 45:21-22), This Plainly And Clearly Declares, According To The Word Of Truth, That JESUS CHRIST is That God.

    Your Excellent statement: "We can note how Jesus never rebuked Thomas for exclaiming, "My Lord and my God," can Certainly be connected With Confirming Scriptures, about "rebuking worship," {# 9 on my Previous list...}:

    "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." ( Revelation 19:10)

    "And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. ( Revelation 22:8-9)

    May you and all who "believe God's Word Of Truth," Please Be Richly Encouraged and Edified, waiting for our Great God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST! ( Titus 2:13)

    brother Chris Endrizzi
  • Wkirk - In Reply - 3 years ago
    have you not read?

    Isaiah 45:23

    I have sworn by myself[god], the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

    Romans 14:11

    For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

    you have to admit it if Paul believed this how true must it be?
  • God is the Maker of Everything - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 45:7-13

    I am the LORD, and there is no other.

    7 I form light and create darkness;

    I make well-being and create calamity;

    I am the LORD, who does all these things.

    8 "Shower, O heavens, from above,

    and let the clouds rain down righteousness;

    let the earth open, that salvation and righteousness may bear fruit;

    let the earth cause them both to sprout;

    I the LORD have created it.

    9 "Woe to him who strives with him who formed him,

    a pot among earthen pots!

    Does the clay say to him who forms it, WHAT ARE YOU MAKING?!!

    or 'Your work has no handles'?

    10 Woe to him who says to a father, 'What are you begetting?'

    or to a woman, 'With what are you in labor?'"

    11 Thus says the LORD,

    the Holy One of Israel, and the one who formed him:

    "Ask me of things to come;

    WILL YOU COMMAND ME, concerning my children and the work of my hands?

    12 I made the earth

    and created man on it;

    it was my hands that stretched out the heavens,

    and I commanded all their host.

    13 I have stirred him up in righteousness,

    and I will make all his ways level;

    Comment by Mishael:

    We are Gods creation too; each and everyone ever conceived in a woman's womb. Even babies who were not born.

    READ ROMANS CHAPTER ONE. We are without excuse. We all have enough intelligence to understand Someone made all of THIS.

    God knows His Purpose.

    If we do not read this Bible, we do not know what has happened and what happens next. Believe me, satan likes us in the dark, afraid and wondering.

    As in the book of John, chapter 3, we receive Jesus as our Lord and Savior; ask to be born again into Gods kingdom we will never be afraid again. Jesus will give us His Holy Spirit to comfort, teach, and totally reveal who Jesus is to US. He longs to comfort you.

    Like me, take him at his Word, and receive. This Bible will save us and our families and loved ones.

    Ask him to strengthen your weak faith. Receive it.

    Find the Testimonies Link and read some of those.
  • We were always in the heart of God - 3 years ago
    Isaiah 45:18

    For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else.
  • Chris - In Reply on Isaiah 30 - 3 years ago
    Hi Neumon. I believe you're referring to Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6. Please correct me if you're thinking of other similar verses.

    If we read those passages as given & understood, then we're liable to believe that the "evil" being spoken of in both verses is a moral or sadistic evil constructed by God. However, we must turn to the Hebrew to interpret that word. In both cases, the word for "evil" is from the same root word: Rah; and in both instances 'evil' is meant to imply 'calamity or adversity'.

    So reading Isaiah 45:7: God both forms the light & creates darkness; if God chooses to remove the light, whether a physical light from the sun, we will have darkness. Or, He chooses to not give or prevent spiritual light coming to someone, then that mind lies in darkness (e.g. Ephesians 5:8, 1 Thessalonians 5:5).

    Similarly, with "I make peace & create evil": God can choose to bring peace into a situation or within a person, or He can withhold that peace, & calamity or adversity prevails. So, when it says that God creates 'evil', it's impossible for an Holy God to bring out some evil from within Himself, when no such evil can even exist in such holiness. But God can remove light & peace for His Own purposes, thereby leaving distress & calamity.

    Amos 3:6: in like manner, when a trumpet (of warning) is sounded, the people ought to be alerted & afraid of what's to come. If there is a calamity being struck in a city, shouldn't the inhabitants likewise be warned that maybe the Lord is trying to tell them something? Sometimes, not always, when we face an adversity or calamity in our lives, we need to seek the Lord's Face & examine our lives, lest there may be a word of warning from God for us. The Lord told Israel (through Amos) in verse 2: "You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities." Israel was greatly blessed, but they likewise also faced much warning & punishment for their sins & departure from God.
  • Dustin - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Chris,

    These are my comments structured around Isaiah 45:7.

    God creates the evil and is the letter that lets Satan prove us ( 2 Thessalonians 2:7).

    Satan and his angels would be defunct without God propping them up, needing them as an opponent to fulfill prophesy.

    God creates the evil until the 3 spirits are placed in the lake of fire, &

    God comes down for the first time to dwell face to face with the born again.

    God bless and pray for the homeless.
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Michael. If you're thinking of Isaiah 45:7, please don't assume that there is any evil within the Godhead to produce evil. We need to understand that verse properly. Just as the LORD "formed the light", so too can He "create darkness". That is, when God chooses to remove the light, darkness remains - darkness is the default. God had to introduce light to dispel darkness ( Genesis 1:1-5); Jesus had to become Light unto men to reveal & dispel their inner darkness ( John 12:46).

    Likewise, God said, "I make peace and create evil". Evil came from the father of evil & sin, who is the devil. And the devil has controlled the world with his wickedness ( Ephesians 2:1-3). But in that overwhelming wickedness, the merciful God has still brought peace to the hearts & lives of many: to His people, Israel, if they obeyed: Psalm 119:165; Proverbs 16:7 and to all others who come to Him through the Cross of His Son ( John 14:27; Ephesians 2:13-18).

    But what happens when God chooses to remove His Peace? And what happens when God chooses to remove His Light? If Peace goes, evil will immediately take over - if Light is removed, darkness instantly prevails. So, God is not the author of evil, but that evil is the result when His Peace is removed; hence, as it is written, "I create evil", or, 'I have allowed evil to take hold (or, make evil happen), because I have removed My Peace'.

    Maybe if Satan was bound soon after him troubling mankind with evil, there would be no need for such verses that would require God to act against evil, but in the Wisdom of God & to make His Power, Love & Salvation known to all, we who have been drawn to & choose His Light & Peace, can always know His Power constantly working in us. But if that Light & Peace fades away in us, we know it's because we have given Satan a foothold in us, bringing us into darkness & sin.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ginny, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    It's better to to know what GOD SAYS than to say things that OPPOSE God's word.

    You says Satan created evil, this OPPOSES:

    Isaiah 45:7 I (GOD) form the light, and CREATE darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD DO ALL THESE THINGS.

    You say God gives us the choice to choose good are evil, this OPPOSES:

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU both to will and do of HIS GOOD PLEASURE.

    You say Satan was the highest angel in heaven and rebelled, this OPPOSES:

    Job 26:13 By his Spirit he garnished the heavens, his hand hath formed the CROOKED SERPENT.

    John 8:44 ...He (Satan) was a murder from THE BEGINNING (not perfect and fell), and abode not in the TRUTH ....
  • Richard Estrada - 3 years ago
    Misheal,

    You missed the meaning of God's message to man; He's saying "know your place". That is my message to those putting weight on a false doctrine. There is no such thing as a "rapture", only a structured, 2 part resurrection.

    Isaiah 45:9

    9 Woe unto him that striveth with his Maker! Let the potsherd strive with the potsherds of the earth. Shall the clay say to him that fashioneth it, What makest thou? or thy work, He hath no hands?
  • Chris - In Reply on Zephaniah 2 - 3 years ago
    Lenny, the way that I can understand this verse (in Isaiah 45:7), is to see the contrasts given therein. The Lord God says that He forms (creates) light. If that light is removed, the result is darkness. So in a sense, He has also created darkness (or, at least chosen not to remove that darkness by some other means, other than using light).

    Likewise, God makes (or, gives) peace. If He chooses to remove that peace, that absence of peace is unrest, war, turmoil (evil). So I don't believe the verse indicates that God specifically chooses to create evil (sin?), but when He removes peace & serenity from a person or from the world, the result is not good at all. Maybe we could ask, 'Why would God want to remove the peace He gives?' It could be for accomplishing of His purposes in man or in the world & to show man how deep his wickedness can go when God is not in his view & His Peace is not in Him. And we remember, that these words were spoken to Cyrus (verse 1), a Persian ruler, whom God used to accomplish His purposes on behalf of Israel. So these words came to remind Cyrus who this God of Israel was with Whom he was dealing with.
  • Chris - In Reply on Romans 9 - 3 years ago
    Without delving too deep in theology, Divine Election is essentially God choosing who are to belong to Him.

    We have the Old Testament references to God's choosing Israel: Isaiah 42:1; Isaiah 45:4; Isaiah 65:9; Matthew 24:22 (Matthew is still OT in this respect). Israel wasn't a nation at the time of God's choosing nor did its forefathers deserve anything for God choosing them, but that He wanted a "special people, to set His Love upon them, & to keep His Oath made to their forefathers" ( Deuteronomy 7:6-8).

    In the New Testament (post Cross), the Apostle Paul speaks of God's Elect as being from both Israel & the Gentiles: under "the election of Grace" (Romans chapter 11) and Colossians 3:12; 1 Peter 1:2.

    So we understand from Scripture, that God chooses whomever He desires to be His very Own. Yet, after the advent of Jesus Christ & His Sacrifice for all (Jew & Gentile), God's choosing is based on the Cross & yet the remnant of disbelieving Israel will still figure at the end times.

    Then maybe your question is in respect of how that Divine Election affects sinful mankind now: are some forever lost without hope, or are some dragged kicking & screaming into the Kingdom, none having any choice because of Divine Election? To answer this, God's choosing of those to be saved is entirely because of His Determination & His Plans. Since we know that God is an Omniscient God (He knows all things from eternity to eternity), His Plans must include those who come into the world, the life path they take, their hearing of the Gospel & their response to it.

    Acts 13:48: "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed." "Ordained to eternal life". This is election, showing that God, Who had appointed some to eternal life, followed through with believing on His Son. In other words, whom God chooses will be saved - those who refuse His Son are not part of the elect or chosen of God.
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 45:5 - 3 years ago
    Thanks Earl,

    Isaiah 10 is a great, and humbling example.
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Isaiah 45:5 - 3 years ago
    S Spencer, the Spirit is blessing you with His great insight. Isaiah 10 is an example also of God using man as the labour of HIS WORK.

    THY WILL BE DONE, come quickly O Lord.

    Our's IN CHRIST your servants, Amen
  • S Spencer - In Reply on Isaiah 45:5 - 3 years ago
    Hi Dr Marvin.

    That's a humbling, valuable truth to consider isn't it.

    God used Moses, He used Abraham, and Many others in scripture and Many he is using today,

    But he also used People like Cyrus! ""Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;""

    He used King Nebuchadnezzar.

    To seize Israel.

    And the Chaldeans.

    Habakkuk 1:6. For, lo, I raise up the Chaldeans, that bitter and hasty nation, which shall march through the breadth of the land, to possess the dwellingplaces that are not their's.
  • Dr MARVIN A MCQUEEN on Isaiah 45:5 - 3 years ago
    Since God's eyes are in every place; it's a blessing to understand that God is still a mystery, therefore He can do what his Holy Word is! Remember God created all things, therefore He can utilize anyone or any thing, to get His Will done! Be blessed!
  • Vince - In Reply on Judges 7 - 3 years ago
    Hello Adam, where is Eve? Jokey joke.

    Insult on whom? I'm showing the fact that God knows all things and that He created evil and death for a purpose of a temporary earth. I know it's hard to believe, it was for me too, but it's plain to see in the word of God.

    If you can accept ISAIAH 45:7 about evil, then understanding will come easily. Remember the slaughtered lamb before the foundation of the world? There's no forgiveness of sin without the shedding of blood. The lamb's blood was shed only for sin before sin was. Don't you see the plan God is showing us?

    Why God did not allow Adam and Eve to eat of the tree of life after they sinned instead He put them out of the garden? The plan of salvation is not by eating or works but by the shedding of a sin free blood, God's own blood. God bless you
  • Vince - In Reply on Genesis 3 - 3 years ago
    To Ingrid Li,

    Notice God did not mentioned to Adam the tree of life until after Adam ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And no, it was not the tree of wisdom. Wisdom is achieved through knowing good and evil, and understanding is to know the difference.

    You can more understanding this if you realize that Adam and Eve were both void of understanding which can only be achieved by knowing that the opposite of good is evil. Did you know that there are good and evil spirits? And that God created them both? You can find this in ISAIAH 45:7. God is the creator of both things seen and unseen. He, God created evil. He did so for a purpose, to give us knowledge and understanding so we can be wise to know God. I can go on forever on this, but I don't want to bore you or anyone else, so I'll stop here. God bless you


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