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The people Jesus was speaking to, understood that for of discipline/punishment because it was very publicity done in their society, see Deuteronomy 25:1-3, 2Corinthians 11:23,24, Acts 16:23, Proverbs 19:29,
Isaiah 53, Isaiah 53:5,
Context Luke 12, it starts off Luke 12:1 "In the meantime._.._." therefore you have to go back a page or more to get fuller context. Luke 11, starts Luke 11:1 "And it came to pass._._" also a continuation but atleast you can see a good contextual beginning in Luke 11:1 they were asking Jesus to teach them to pray. Jesus started to teach them Luke 11:2-52, also bringing the Church Leadership into correction, while teaching all around, including those leaders. Luke 11:53-54, those leaders were waiting for a time to trip him up. Luke 12, begins as that moments continuation, so Jesus in the crowds chaos continued teaching Luke 12:1 "._._.. Beware ye of the ._._.hypocrisy ", (please read in context) Jesus then encourages us & all around Him, the Love GOD has for us & HIS promises of provision of all needs, even during wrongful persecution & death. Luke 12:3-40, with continued warning of hypocrisy, Luke 12:41-59, notice Luke 12:45, mistreatment of others, disregard of responsibility as Stewardship, leadership, ect.
Looks like Jesus is talking about being responsible for those people & things put into the care, trust of HIS "servants" knowingly or unknowingly sinning against, if you're a leader, trusted with anyone & especially the Church.
Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Romans 14:12,
Hopefully these are helpful
So yes, Isaiah 53:3 does show how Christ, in the New Testament accounts, was rejected by so many, when He had so much love for people, even to those who hated Him. Yet that love did not cause Him to turn away from such a shameful agonizing death. He knew that only if He died would mankind have any hope to live as God intended.
This section goes from they did not believe (as seen in John 6:64; 8:46 and others) to verse 39 of this chapter which states that they COULD not believe as prophesied in Isaiah 53:1.
Verse 42 serves as a harsh reminder that we can have belief in Christ but we also must CONFESS with our mouths ( Romans 10:9-10) in order to have saving faith. We are reminded here of Luke 16:15 which states that which is honorable among men is an abomination to God.
Here; it was praise of men that was the cause; and being thrown out of the synagogue; not even direct physical persecution.
Verse 48 reminds us of the conviction of the Spirit as mentioned in John 16:8; a few chapters later. Clearly; the whole Godhead works as a unit in tandem in ways mysterious to man.
Verse 40 goes on further to state from Isaiah about God Himself blinding men. Some other verses on that include 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where God Himself sends strong delusion so that they will believe the lie because of the previous verse where they did not LOVE the truth. Also we have Isaiah 66:4 where it says that God will choose their delusions.
All sin stems from self justification; and self love that cannot accept the true state of our souls as fallen man because of Adam and his progeny that makes up natural man. Naked we come into this world and naked we shall go ( Job 1:21); also see Ecclesiastes 5:15. We cannot love anything above God; Jesus uses the word HATE for anything else ( Luke 14:25-26). We see the general sentiment in verse 25 of this chapter. Clearly; Christ Himself showed love in the previous chapter for Lazarus; Mary and Martha as well as John when He said "Behold your mother" to John at the cross so that he could take care of her. ( John 19:26-27).
There were times when they sought Him out when He stated the more important principle that those who followed Him were brothers; sisters; etc. ( Luke 8:21).
The blueprint for being a child of God or not is in John 12.
In looking at and comprehending Christ's unlimited attributes; we might think that with no surprises as to the assessment of men; that He wouldn't experience some of the reactions that He did. One notable example of this was with the Centurion who prayed for His child. ( Matthew 8:5-10). In His human emotions there was nothing wrong with this; in essence He was greatly rejoicing and "basking in the moment" as it were. Mark 6:1:6 shows the opposite example; that of the unbelief of those from His own hometown. This was righteous annoyance if not downright indignation; again not any surprise to the Son of God. Other times there are instances where He wept; careful study of those scriptures gives us insight as to WHY He did so; often associated with the unbelief and blindness of others. It should be noted that as the "Man of Sorrows" there is no verse showing Him laughing while on earth ( Isaiah 53:3). There is no die hard rule here; but we should carefully assess our reasoning for humor and ensure it isn't for inappropriate thoughts.
Again; it is clear that there were varied levels of depth to Christ's speech; particularly in regard to the parables which He expounded to the Disciples privately after declaring them openly. They were designed so that those who thought they could see were revealted to be blind. ( John 9:39; etc.) He therefore upbraided His disciples frequently for not understanding. To draw all men unto Himself; therefore meant all those the Father had given to Him ( John 12:32; John 6:37 for comparison). We see His temporary solitude with the Disciples after the death of John the Baptist be abruptly halted after the crowds followed Him. Since only some of the crowd was sincere; it shows the nature of Christ in continuing to meet their needs despite the grief of Himself and the Disciples. His priorities made such decisions to care for others above His own needs (coming to serve and not be served
Luke 16:22-31,
I guess my question is why?
Jesus has all authority: Luke 12:5, Luke 9:1, Mark 1:27, 1Corinthians 15:24, Matthew 28:18, Job 26:6, Psalms 139, Revelation 1:18,
Revelation 20, 2Peter 2:4,
Let's not divide over these issues, James 3:6,
Hopefully these are helpful in your study
This prophecy gives the precise time of the first coming of the Messiah. You will receive different understandings of this, it is a study that will take much time. this is just a little information you may use to help your study.
Many put the last week of this prophecy at the end times. It is used for the 7 years of tribulation, a peace treaty with the antichrist (he in verse 27) for 3 1/2 years then 3 years of great tribulation with the taking of the church somewhere between (pre, mid, post).
"Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, (70 weeks, 70 x 7 = 490 solar years or 483 prophetic years) on the house of Israel (Daniel's people) and the holy city (Jerusalem). It started from "the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem", make a note, that the rebuilding of the temple is not in this prophecy.
Here are a few verses that may help your study and if this prophecy has been fulfilled or not.
1. To finish the transgression Isaiah 53:5, 8 Isaiah 53:11 Hebrews 9:15-18
2. To make an end of sins Matthew 1:21 Hebrews 10:8-11 John 1:29 1 Corinthians 15:3
1 John 3:5 Psalm 32 Romans 8:3
3. To make reconciliation for iniquity Colossians 1:20-22 Isaiah 53:6 Isaiah 53:11 Ephesians 2:16 ( Titus 2:14 2 Corinthians 5:18-19
4. To bring in everlasting righteousness Romans 5:17-21 Romans 3:21-26 1Peter 2:24
2 Corinthians 5:21 Isaiah 61:10-11
5. To seal up vision and prophecy Daniel 9:23 John 6:27 Mark 1:14-15 Acts 3:18
John 5:36-40 Matthew 11:11-15
6. To anoint the most holy Hebrews 8:1-12 Hebrews 9:6-14
The six things that were determined on Daniel's people and the holy city in this 70-week prophecy; did the Messiah/Jesus fulfill?
God bless,
RLW
In practical terms; when we see Christ at the crucifixion; it is clear that the universe itself ( Colossians 1:17) would have ceased to exist at his death if there weren't other members of the Godhead (not to mention that Christ would be praying to Himself).
So the "Oneness" group is clearly offbase. We could say that God the Father came up with the plan of Creation; as well as the Crucifixion ( Isaiah 53:10) and Christ did the action. The Spirit is often in Proverbs personified as "Wisdom" crying out in the streets. It is seen in some sense as "hovering over the waters" ( Gen. 1:2).
The important aspect here is that God in every form is Omnicient; Omnipresent and Omnipotent (All knowing; everywhere; and all powerful). He also will preside as this present world and it's elements are burned up ( 2 Peter 3:10). We can; mercifully rejoice that a new heaven and earth will be for us someday; according to Rev. 22. All the gods (small g) which are in reality representations of demons and or men's vain imaginations will be destroyed as well. God is the Creator; we are His Creation along with all angels and demons. Praise God.
So when the Apostle Paul refers to Isaiah 49:8, he understood the general principle in Isaiah that the Messiah God would be willing to hear their cries for help - that His Mercy would come to Israel, as well to the Gentiles. And though Israel couldn't perceive who this Messiah would be, it was God Himself (the Redeemer of Israel: v7) through His Son, that would bring about a full salvation for all. So Paul could say, "that God was in Christ (the Messiah God), reconciling the world unto himself..."( 2 Corinthians 5:19) and begging the Corinthian believers that "ye receive not the grace of God in vain"; since Isaiah himself prophesied that God's day of salvation had now come & you Corinthians were blessed to receive it ( 2 Corinthians 6:1,2). Therefore, they should accept Paul's work on their behalf & to refuse sin, not allowing it into their lives & the Church, knowing, "the terror of the Lord" against all doers of evil ( 2 Corinthians 5:11; 2 Corinthians 6:14-18).
2 Peter 3:16 As also in all his apistles, speaking in them of these things; in which some things are hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable do wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own DESTRUCTION.
1 Thessalonians 3:8 Then shall that Wicked (the carnal mind) be revealed, whom the lord (the Holy Ghost, truth and life) shall consume with the spirit of his mouth (born by the word of God), and shall DESTROY by the brightness (light) of HIS COMING (this mystery ...Christ in you....born of SPIRIT).
Isaiah 53:1 Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord REVEALED?
God Bless YOU!
Matthew 12:40 says " For as Jonas was three days and three nights In the whale's belly so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth"
That comes to a full 72 hours not 36. Not sure I your math was off accidentally or purposefully.
For all this business of a person having to know that Christ did do this and all the suffering that he went through is a bit heavy. Yes a person needs to know that Jesus bore his/her sins on the cross, died and was buried, then on the third day he rose conquering death and hell. But the simple fact is that it isn't required to know this.
John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life"
Jesus hasn't been to the cross and here he is telling Nicodemus how to be saved...without the knowledge of what Jesus will go through.
Take Phillip and the eunuch in Acts 8:26-40. Yes the eunuch was reading in Isaiah 53:7 concerning the prophecy of Christ having to endure the suffering and death of the cross but when the eunuch saw water he asked. "See here is water. what doth hinder me to be baptized? and Phillip said, if thou believest with all think heart thou mayest. And he answered and said I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. Acts 8:36-37
Acts 16:23-34 tells of the time Paul and Silas we're in Philippi, arrested and beaten with whips and thrown into prison with the jailer given orders to keep them safely. We learn that en earthquake cames and broke the foundation of the prison, with the doors opened and their bands loosed. The jailer came out and thinking his prisoners escaped was about to kill himself. Paul cries out for him to not do so.
Bringing us to verse 30, "And brought them out and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
And they said, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved, and they house."
That's just 2 passages showing the simplicity of salvation.
The Lord chastises all He loves; and they will ultimately produce fruit if they are truly saved. He is patient; but will do whatever is necessary for His plans and work in our lives to be accomplished. Truly; we are Christ's great reward for His sufferings (see Isaiah 53:11). He is given ALL authority over heaven and earth; which would be expected being a member of the Godhead. But God chose to bring Him here and to become a man suffering in all ways as we do without sin. This was God's plan and surely we all must die to ourself as the Spirit enables. Psalm 2 indicates how the world will try to break the bonds as it were of the rulership of Christ; but God has the last laugh. Surely the world will have the stone fall on them rather than falling on it.
May we allow the pruning necessary to produce fruit. Praise God that although we were enemies of God He has reconciled us. ( Colossians 1:21). Remember that those who have taken the mark have been predestined to be reprobate as they were not written in the book of the Lamb ( Rev. 13:8).
Agape.
Sometimes we have a wrong impression of God's people mentioned in the Bible. We think that they are invulnerable like robots or angels or they should be like that. But they were ordinary people like me and you. Having the same passions, struggles, failures, good and bad times, their up and downs just like everybody else in the world. Just like us. What made them exceptional is that they regreted and repented for what they had done and went back to God to be forgiven. Of course one has to be very careful not to fail but we are sand/soil and will eventually fail sometime badly or less badly.(hopefully not that bad).The Bible gives a true description of their personalities. Not like biographies written by men for some great men in the world that idealize them and write nothing about their errors. David was one of them. Sure he has done things that hatdly anybody does. But he was a man after God's heart because he was always ready to admit his errors/failures and repent. Not like Adam who tried to justify him by blaming Eve. And don't forget that he was severely punished by God sometimes, and also he was not allowed to build a temple for God as his son Solomon did .All those people, good or bad, are examples for us now for what to do and what not to do.
GBU
Yes, It is said of David that he was a man after God's own heart. From reading the account of his life, it seems that he was a man who sinned like all of us, but came to God repentantly for mercy regularly. He was a devout believer in God. Scripture, on the whole speaks well of David.
It seems that the Holy Spirit is misunderstood for His main role bringing conviction of sin righteousness and judgment to come ( John 16:8). There is no scripture where the "helper" ( John 14:26) is instructed to be worshipped. Instead; it strengthens the believer; as a small reflection of Christ who possessed the Spirit "without limit" or measure ( John 3:34).
Believers have quibbled as to verses that mention the Trinity and others only mentioning baptism in the name of Christ. We also need to understand the Christophenes or preincarnate appearances of Christ. No one has seen the Father according to Christ; surely the full glory of God would kill a man ( John 1:18; Exodus 33:18-20). The Spirit has only been described in a visible manifestation or accompanying sign once; in Acts at Pentecost. Jesus makes it clear that when the Comforter (i.e. Spirit) comes that WE shall dwell with him ( John 14:23). He is to ask the Father and He sends it ( John 14:16).
I suppose a a good read of John is appropriate on these matters! Even one member of the Godhead is beyond our puny minds to understand. Agape. Rich P
The earlier verses indicate a Millenium stance; as to who is worthy to ascend the holy hill (v. 3-5).
In terms of the blood of the Atonement; it is possible that it was placed in heaven; as well as being part of the vesture dipped in blood mentioned at His returns ( Rev. 19:13). We must remember that Christ is our "Passover" ( 1 Cor. 5:7). He secured victory over Satan; and over death itself. God was satisfied with this; and even pleased to crush Him. ( Isaiah 53:10). Christ Himself will rejoice and be satisfied; as the verse further explains. His travail is worth it to please the Father; and clearly His thought was on us when He prayed before His death for us to be "one" ( John 17:11 and 21). This mindset is similar to Paul's concerns as he was physically wasting away in prison over the church where he said it is more needful to remain; although to live is Christ and die is gain. ( Philippians 1:21-24).
As the pastor last week mentioned in his sermon; Christ's battle was fought during the silent periods in His trial. He couldn't die after sweating blood in Gethsemane; or after the flogging which many succumbed to. No doubt Satan wished for this. He was strengthened until He had to be left alone at the cross as we see in Psalm 22.
Hidden gems of Prophetic mystery until Jesus fulfilled many. Luke 24, Luke 24:27, Revelation 12:4-11, Revelation 20,
I recommend reading the Bible & prayer, the movies aren't fully accurate, they seem to focus on the art, not Truth
I also think He is rude. But He probably also knew that after His death there will be doctrines and teachings that honor the Lord's mother. He might want to point out that Honor Me all of you, do not begin and honor my mother. Unfortunately, she probably only had one task. His thoughts are not like our thoughts. When He in the flesh could say so, and yet not mean it in a Spiritual way. I also think the Lord showed His carnal side in the question to His mother. Maybe she's pushing Him? God knows!
Have you ever woken up from anesthesia? And experienced pain hell. Then you are not properly sensed with yourself an ordinary human being either. Rather, think of what He went through here on earth. He even had to say to His disciples: How long shall I endure with you? Be happy that in His wounds we have been healed:
Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
Ephesians 3.
Stay blessed in His Holy name Jesus, love u in Christ.
Jesus told his followers, "And do not swear by your head, for you cannot make even one hair white or black" ( Matthew 5:36).
Jesus probably had a beard and short curly hair with long sideburns or "payot." Jesus followed the law in Leviticus 19:27 which said, "You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard." Even today, Orthodox Jewish men grow long hair on the sides of their heads.
Shorter hair was considered the norm for Jewish men and for Romans. Paul explains to early Christians in Corinth, "Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 1 Corinthians 11:14-15; Numbers 6:1-8
For he grew up before him like a young plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form or majesty that we should look at him, and no beauty that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by men, a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief; and as one from whom men hide their faces he was despised, and we esteemed him not But he was pierced for our transgressions; he was crushed for our iniquities; upon him was the chastisement that brought us peace, and with his wounds we are healed." ( Isaiah 53: 2-3, 5)
(2) The prophecy was fulfilled to the letter. "Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favor with God. And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name Jesus" ( Luke 1:30, 31, KJV).
(3) Jesus demonstrated human characteristics: He became tired ( John 4:6). He thirsted ( John 19:28), He ate food ( Luke 24:40-43), He showed feelings ( Mark 6:34), He wept ( John 11:35), He knew temptation ( Hebrews 4:15), and He died ( John 19:30).
Jesus Christ Accomplished the Works of His Father:
(1) He died on the Cross. This is the fundamental theme of the Gospel.
The fact of His death-One-fourth of the Gospels are dedicated to His Passion and Resurrection. (a) For this purpose He came into the world ( John 12:27). (b) His death was prophesied hundreds of years before He came ( Isaiah 53:3-8).
The meaning of His death. (a) It was a ransom for sin ( Matthew 20:28; Romans 3:24; 1 Peter 1:18). (b) It was to pay the penalty for sin ( Romans 3:24; 1 John 2:2; 4:10). Man is the object of God's wrath because of rebellion and sin, but God took the initiative in satisfying His wrath by sending His own Son to Calvary. (c) It is a reconciliation. The enmity between us and God has ended ( Romans 5:10), and we are restored to God ( 2 Corinthians 5:18, 19). (d) It is a substitution: He died in our place ( 1 Peter 3:18; 2 Corinthians 5:21). (e) In summary, the matter of sin has been completely dealt with ( 1 Peter 2:24; Hebrews 9:26; Hebrews 10:12).
(2) He was resurrected from the dead: This is unique and fundamental to Christianity.
The reality of the Resurrection ( John 20:1-10; 1 Corinthians 15:4).
The credibility of the Resurrection: (a) Jesus predicted it: Matthew 13:39-41; Luke 24:1-7. (b) The tomb was empty: John 20:11-13. (c) Many witnesses saw Him alive: the women ( Luke 23:55, 56); Mary Magdalene
Proverbs 22:15, Proverbs 29:15, Proverbs 23:13, Ephesians 6:4,
It's been quoted "spare the rod spoil the child" it's about discipline, correcting a child. Hebrews 12:8, Hebrews 12:9, Hebrews 8,
Isaiah 53:5,
Hopefully these are helpful
We also see this in 1 Peter 2:24. It says, "Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree." And then there's a purpose clause: in order that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes you were healed.
This comes from Isaiah 53:5. Now my approach to interpreting scripture is that scripture interprets itself. So if someone comes to me and says, "You see, it says here in Isaiah 53:5 that He died on the cross not only for the forgiveness of our sins, but so that we can be healed of all of our sicknesses and all of our diseases."
My response would be "Really! That's what it means? Are you sure he wasn't talking about sin?" Because look what the next verse says ( 1 Peter 2:25) because it explains it. Verse 24 says says "By whose stripes you were healed," and then it says in Verse 25, "For you were as sheep going astray; (still in Isaiah 53), but now are returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
That's what we've been healed from. We were healed from going astray. And we've been returned. And it is interesting that the word returned is the word for conversion. When Jesus died on the cross, not only did He die for my sins, but so that my relationship with him would be healed. I would be brought back to the shepherd and bishop of my soul. And that's what it means. Peter interprets Isaiah 53 for us.
Hope this helps!
You don't need to look far to see disregard for life of babies, abortion kills millions & who spares a single child from it? Spade & nueter goes on constantly of animals destroying seed before reproduction. Crimes, injustice, lies, greed etc. If it was so wicked & coucorrupt then? I don't want to imagine. )=
Psalms 139, Psalms 111, Matthew 9:26, Matthew 14:14, Isaiah 53:5, 1 Peter 2:24, Revelation 7:16-17,
Chastisement definition on Web= punishment, whipping
Isaiah 53, whole chapter points to Jesus, what the Messiah would endure. John 19:1, scouraged = whipped as punishment
John 19, John 14:25-29,
Hopefully these are helpful.
You mentioned an apple and I would agree it just says the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The lamb I believe is different. Adam and Eve needed proper covering. They covered themselves with fig leaves. Fig leaves will not cover our sins. The lamb of God will. Jesus in John 1:29,36 is called the lamb of God. When the eunuch was preach to by Philip ( Act 8:32-35) the eunuch was reading from the passage in Isaiah 53:7. Philip preached unto his Jesus. Described as a lamb. When the children of Israel in Egypt were preparing for the passover so that the angel of death didn't kill their first born. A lamb was used. Exodus 12:1-14
When Abraham was taking Isaac to be sacrificed Isaac asked him where the lamb was. It must have been a animal used for burnt offerings.
Gen 22:7 And Isaac spake unto Abraham his father, and said, My father: and he said, Here am I, my son. And he said, Behold the fire and the wood: but where is the lamb for a burnt offering?
Gen 22:8 And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.Abraham also believed in the resurrection. Consider Hebrews 11
Heb 11:17 By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,
Heb 11:18 Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called:
Heb 11:19 Accounting that God was able to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure.Notice how important the promises are. What promises is he talking about? The whole chapter is about the promise.
Heb 11:39 And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise:
Heb 11:40 God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect.
Abraham as of today has not yet recieved the promise.
I'm running out of space. I'II have to start another dialog box to finish this.
Only the Father knows the day Jesus will return, Mark 13:32, we are told to watch Matthew 25:13. How do we know Jesus died in the first place, we look back, God said 100s of years before it would happen. Isaiah 7:14 Scripture points to how he will be born, and also to one of the names given to Christ: Immanuel, Matthew 1:23. Micah 5:2 This scripture tells where He will be born and from what tribe, which was Judah, Matthew 2:5 Luke 2:4.
Psalm 22:7-8 This scripture tells how they will ridicule Him, Matthew 27:40-43. Psalm 22:16-18 the same refers to the actual crucifixion of Christ, Matthew 27:35,39,41,49. Isaiah 53:5 tells they will pierce Him for our transgressions, and by his wounds, we are healed, John 19:34.
I could list more scripture that was written 100s of years before that is clear that it was Jesus our savior that was told of before and what would happen to Him, and we can be sure He will return the same way as He ascended Acts 1:10-11 Revelation 1:7
God bless and have faith; If prophecy told it would happen 100s of years before and it happened have no doubt it is true. He is coming back and will set the kingdom upon the earth.
RLW
Luke 22:36, Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets, this that Jesus asked them to do was in a prophecy given to Isaiah 53:12. In Luke 22:37-38, He tells them why and the swords they had would be enough, then in verse 52, we see they came with swords and spears as against a thief. Jesus was also put on the cross between two thieves, Matthew 27:38. Even the least of the prophecies not obvious, Jesus fulfilled them all.
May this be enough to answer your question.
God bless,
RLW