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Hebrews 12:1 is a good verse to help with that. Ithink God wants us to remember that its not just losing weight but hes concerned about our heart.May God bless you in your venture.

what scriptures can you read to help with eating and meditate on to lose weight and keep it off?

Mealtime prayer blessed us oh lord and this thy gifts is in what chapter in the bibble

According to gods will prayer for isaiah 54:17+ for all my concerns and remove ken permanetly owut of my life and his culpits in crime. prayer god severe conviction fall upon all tiel returned as left. in jesus name i ask,.

Holy Spirit

Minister DLW Green,

How do you receive your revelation?

Wow .... and I thought the revelation I was receiving in my studies was something new. God is faithful. Not only has He confirmed Himself; but has reminded me ..... I will lead you into all truth..... and we receive the same confirmed truths from the Truthgiver himself, Holy Spirit, the Godhead of Truth, Presence, and Comfort

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Ezekiel 27 & 28 describes the King of Tyre as making himself a "god" and was called a "cherub" and referenced "Eden, the garden of God" This Cherub was "perfect" in beauty, faultless in his ways from creation onward until unrighteousness was found in him. Ez 27:3, 28:12,15

Isaiah 42:12 Reference the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jacob, Joseph, David, Josiah, Ezekiel, John the Baptist, Jesus, the Apostles, etc. This Almighty God of Israel is the creator of all living things. In Psalms 83:18 he is called Jehovah God.

If you look in one of the earliest King James Bible of 1611 you'll see that name. Most modern translations have removed that name and substituted it with Lord claiming since the original pronunciation was lost it makes sense to remove it as if the Almighty doesn't exist. Also the divine name Jehovah or Adhonai or Elohim in some translation appears in the Tetragrammaton close to 7000 times so removing the name removes the knowledge and understanding of the Almighty and creates confusion. He just wasn't a tribal God in Isaiah 54:5 it says "....He will be called the God of the whole earth." Psalm 124:8 Jehovah is called the maker of heaven and earth.

Jesus who was a Jew also recognized the God of Israel as being Jehovah or Yahweh. Remember the Jewish clergy during the time of Jesus wanted to bring charges against Jesus in order to put him to death for blashemy so any of worship or acknowledgement he gave to any other god would have given them this opportunity. Plus Genesis 17:1, Isaiah 45:18, Psalm 83:18 refers to Jehovah God being one God. Deuteronomy 6:4,5 also call Jehovah one Jehovah. This is in harmony with Mark 12:29, Romans 3:29-30, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Ephesians 4:4-6, 1 Timothy 2:5 all these scriptures refer to one God.

For Jesus to believe in multiple gods or a triune god would be paramount to apostasy for a Jew and thus grounds for death. Also Roman Zeus was a triune god and existed during this time.

Thank you Chris on those great verses on fornication you gave. You presented it as a broken relationship between "two" it made me think of a key word in marriage, "Joined". (To be yoked together). That brings me to also think of spiritual fornication, If fornication was any other way than the way you described it, we wouldn't understand the meaning of spiritual fornication. I believe God gives us marriage not just for barring children, but to communicate Christ relationship to the church, and Gods relationship to Israel. Not to mention how would we understand the book of Hosea? We see often in the old testament God called Israel his wife and he was a husband to them. Here is one of many:

Isaiah 54:4-5. Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.

For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called. Here is one of many verses Israel committing fornication, Jeremiah 3:8. And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God. Fornication defined properly is essential to understanding scripture.

Verse 13-God makes sure that we are well taught by means of his Word and those who represent him.

Which verse of the Bible says "the prayer of a sinner is an abomination unto God"?

Feel free to use info given here in Moderator's speech--no credit needed/given. A commenter asked who Jehu was... At a certain juncture Jehu was approached, told he would do things for The Lord, thinking that a good thing (to go out and wipe out people), taking the 'command,' evidently not really a command [for the Lord, Jehu, brought retribution for those acts (took it as The Lord's desire, not his to run on and do it, evidently. Insight on this?...

I believe the way to understand this passage, particularly, "every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgement thou shalt condemn", is that all who would stand against Israel accusing her will not prevail, as her heritage in God & performing the Will of God, will be a witness of condemnation to their false witness. This should have been Israel's experience & joy, yet as we know, they failed miserably, often departing from serving God to the worship of idols.

And for the Christian, we have a similar Scripture in the NT: Romans 8:31-34, "What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things? Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth. Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us."

Man may raise many accusations against us, but we are not to retaliate in anger or judgement, because it is Almighty God Who is on our side, & Who fights our battles for us. It doesn't matter what man sees or thinks of us - what matters is how God looks at us - & He always sees us through the Gift of His Son & His Sacrifice. We are children of the King: what can man ever think or do to us without God's Knowledge or intervention?

Does God mean WE will condemn the person who spoke against us? How do we do this? Say this?

THE WOMAN IN REVELATION 12.

Here's a verse that is widely debated. I think we can determine by looking at the description of her, and the series of events concerning her in Ch 12 and prophecies pointing to those events in the bible. "you'll need your bibles". VS 1, the description, "She was clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of 12 stars". If we go to Genesis 37:9-10. Joseph dreams and Jacob answers this one for us. Now compare the events in prophecy to Revelation 12. VS 2, She's travailing in birth pains, Isaiah 54:1-5. Is 66:7, ( BEFORE SHE TRAVAILED, SHE BROUGHT FORTH; BEFORE HER PAIN CAME, SHE BROUGHT FORTH A MAN CHILD.) Also look at Micah 4:10, and Micah 5:2-4. Revelation 12:14 say she was given 2 wings of a eagle, a phrase the Lord uses throughout the bible concerning Israel, Exodus 19:4' Isaiah 40:27-31. Deuteronomy 32:10-11. Look at Paul concerning the Israelites in Romans 9:5, "Whose are the fathers, and whom as concerning the flesh Christ came. THE WOMAN IS ISRAEL, Not the church. The church did not exist until after the child was born died on the cross raised the third day went to the father then gave the Holy Spirit to the believers. Thank you.

Wesley's Notes for Isaiah 54:17

54:17 Condemn - And I will deliver thee not only from the fury of war, but also from the strife of tongues. This blessed condition, is the portion allotted them by me.

Righteousness - The reward of their righteousness. Of me - I give it, and I will continue it to them.

Isaiah 54:15, "Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake."

Isaiah 54:17, "No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD."

In both these Scriptures, God's Promise to Israel (& by extension, to the Church), tell us similar Truths. The enemies of Israel & the Church (those that come against God's people), might surely gather against us & even attack us, but if we remain true & faithful to the Lord, He will keep us & protect us. Of course, we know that many of God's people have suffered & died by the hands of wicked men, but even though God had not sent them to come against us, He has allowed it & that so to fulfil His purposes. Ultimately, God's enemies will fall - their plans & strategies will fail. They will one day stand before the God Who judges righteously & His people will be the victors as we attain that final peace & rest in His Presence.

Isaiah 54:17

17No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD.

The Lord if for you not against you, Fight your battles on your knee!

Jeremiah 33:3

Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and shew thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.

The Lord whom your serving is the one who is in control the unchanging God. God of David, Solomon, Isaac God of Daniel. He did perform the miracles before He still can do it today cause He is the God of yesterday, today , and forever. We are serving the God who is sovereign, all mighty, all powerful. Give your worries and burden to Him..

You wrote, "Thats y the lord was so upset with Peter as Peter was in essence saying the blood was insufficient they needed water baptism". The Lord 'was upset' not because Peter negated the efficacy & sufficiency of Christ's Blood sacrifice, but that Peter had rejected the fact that Gentiles could also be partakers of the Holy Ghost, & the vision was to show that "what God had cleansed, that call not thou common". Nothing to do with water baptism. He then clarified this in Acts 11 to the other apostles & believers in Jerusalem & they together "When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life". (11:18).

You wrote, "Thats y Paul said i thank God that i baptised none of you, Paul knew that water baptism wd make the CROSS th BLOOD OF NO EFFECT". If you read the passage again, Paul was upset that there were cliques forming as certain folk followed after some of the big names. So Paul said what he said, in case some would think that he was so great that water baptism was being done in Paul's name & by his authority & not what Jesus had prescribed. ( 1 Corinthians 1:12-16).

If you deny the necessity of water baptism, post Cross & post reception of the Holy Spirit, you have to deny what Jesus ordained in Matthew 28:19 & what all the apostles believed was necessary as shown in many Scriptures. I'm unsure from where you develop your ideas: there are definite Truths in what you write, but it seems that your interpretations which clearly are outside the revealed Scriptures, formulate your ideas. And that is a dangerous practise.

Alex comments on water baptism but John Who gave us water baptism, Preached behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world i have need to be baptised of him ( Jesus ) Its not water baptism that made us Clean, its only by the blood of the lamb that we are made Clean not h20 . After that Christ had shed his blood on the Cross were we made Clean which was the ULTTMATE BAPTISM AND NOTHIN CAN BE ADDED TO IT ABSOLUTLY NOTHIN . But Peter a Godly man was commanding water baptism after that God Almighty had baptised them with the H.G. That resulted from the blood of the lamb ( WHO CAN FORBID WATER ETC) Thats when God gave Peter that vision in a trance of a GREAT SHEET knit at the 4 corners with all the unclean animals which was the Church ( Humanity ) That God made Clean by the blood of the LAMB not water baptism that Peter was commanding, Thats y the lord was so upset with Peter as Peter was inessence saying the blood was insufficient they needed water baptism Then after that Peter had understood the vision he says then remembered I the WORDS OF OUR LORD, JOHN BAPTISED YOU WITH WATER BUT I WILL BAPTISE YOU WITH THE H.G. N FIRE NO WATER MENTIONED . Nothin can be compared to his blood or added to his sacrifice on th Cross Thats y Paul said i thank God that i baptised none of you, Paul knew that water baptism wd make the CROSS th BLOOD OF NO EFFECT thats y the lord was so upset with Peter he was making the blood of no effect by commanding water baptism in essence saying the Blood was insufficient . It was a slap in the face of God and the lamb of God to command water baptism after the CROSS. Peter should have been preaching behold the lamb of God that taketh away the SINS of the world not water baptism after that God had washed them with the ULTIMATE baptism of his blood the greatest event to ever grace planet earth. Unto him that has loved us and has washed us from OUR SINS IN HIS OWN BLOOD . Even in th O.T. WITHOUT THE SHEDDING OF BLOOD NO REMISISON OF SINS.

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And what was God's righteousness? This was faith in God's Provision of His Son. Jesus became "the END OF THE LAW giving righteousness to everyone that believeth". So the letter of the Law has not changed, but what that Law could never accomplish, Jesus did for us through His Sacrifice.

Now, some Christians say, "I have saving faith in God through Jesus Christ but I am still bound to obey God's Commandments (i.e. the letter of the Law)". What Paul was teaching is that if we are going to be bound to the Law, then our salvation is dependent on our obedience to it (& that can never work). We can't claim to regard the Law in our lives along with having faith in Jesus Who removed that Law for those who come to Him in faith. The requirements of the Law & of Faith cannot be fused - it only causes confusion; just as oil & water won't mix because of their different polar & non-polar molecules that don't allow them to mix.

The Law ultimately led to knowledge of sin & death - Faith in Jesus leads to victory over sin & eternal life. If we try to fuse the two, then we state that Christ's Sacrifice was insufficient & obedience to a set of rules is also needed for our justification & to please God. His Sacrifice was complete in itself: it gave us full redemption, our full acceptability to God & God's Power to obey Him through His Spirit over & above what the Law could ever prescribe us to do.

Romans 8:2 tells us of the new Law from the Life-giving Spirit that frees us from the old. And this was foretold when a new Covenant would be made with Israel with God's Laws being written upon their hearts, Hebrews 8:7-11. Also Romans chapter 7, especially verses 4 to 6.

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So God sent forth His Word, clothed in flesh, in fulfilment of the prophecies about His Son Jesus, both in His coming & in His dying. Jesus perfectly kept God's Laws, as only He could, not destroying them, rather fulfilling them. He never proclaimed the cancellation of the Laws, as all Israel was still bound to it & would be judged by it. Sacrifices still continued even after Jesus' Crucifixion, until the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed by the Roman army in AD 70. So the Jews were in a strait: they had to maintain their sacrifices even though these 'Christians' preached that Jesus' death was God's Sacrifice & animal sacrifices were no longer needed. This would have been a real stumbling block to any Jew wanting to believe in Jesus, not only as the Son of God from Heaven but also the Sacrifice of God for sins. So did God utter the words, "My Son has now made void the Law"? No, His sending Jesus to die for man's sins & Jesus' Own Words, "It is finished" tells us that all that the Father planned for man's redemption was now completed. The application of the Law ended - the need for sacrifices had ceased - only Conversion & Faith in the work of the Cross was needed.

But Jesus was Israel's only hope of salvation, since God sending His Own Sacrifice meant the negating of the animal sacrifices. If then Jesus annulled that system by being the Sacrifice & also annulled the Law by being the embodiment of the Law, that Sacrifice of His showed the end of the Law & sacrifices to them that put their faith in that Work on the Cross. See Romans 10:1-5. And particularly note, that Israel went about establishing their own righteousness (which came from trying to obey the Law), but not towards God's righteousness.

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Well actually, the Law in itself never changed, but the application of it did. The Law given by God is unchangeable in that it came from God & was given to His people, Israel, so that they had God's Standards for living, for worship & for dealing with their sin before a Holy God rather than develop their own standards. If left to their own devices, they would quickly degenerate & behave as the heathen gentiles around them (i.e. pantheistic, carnal living & vain sacrifices (including human sacrifices) to appease their gods). So Israel needed a standard that reflected the Holy Nature & demands of their God.

Israel still failed God many times & they were often scolded by God, through His prophets, & also punished (the long lasting punishment was their exile into Babylonian captivity (Judah) & into Assyrian captivity (Israel)). So of what benefit was that Law? Apart from it being God's Standard for them, it was also meant to show them their sin & their inability to follow it to the letter ( Romans 3:19,20). So, as required by God, each year sacrifice had to be made by the High Priest as a propitiatory offering to God, to temporarily cover their sins & appease God's Anger. If they faithfully did this, God would not condemn them for sin & they could live & not die. But this Law was only for a time & for a reason (as stated above), looking forward to the time when the only acceptable Sacrifice would come, a Sacrifice that fully dealt with man's sin & it would be a permanent, once for all, redemptive Sacrifice. Hebrews 10:1-18 gives more detail on this.

I think in Matthew 5, Jesus showed that the principals of some laws were still relevant to every day living. If we try to live our lives in the Grace of God, without principals (for example) people would divorce each other, not even get married but still have children. Family units breakdown and the children grow up without guidance. Very much as it is Now.

People would look open issues of Lusts, and become consumed by it. Very muck like it is today with the booming porn industry. Society has pretty much thrown off restraints concerning that.

I think Jesus could see clear to the year 2020 and see what earths society would become. God gave us free will. Let's be honest ok? He knew what we'd do with that freedom. It takes Godly; strength built by the Holy Spirit, to turn us to Gods arms of protection against those behaviors.

Jesus reaffirmed what behaviors we should adopt and live our lives by, 24/7, year after year, until we die.

okay then why would god say that if he knew jesus was going to change the law ? that's like saying god is lying .

what's that got to do with lot, all sin is equal in the eyes of got faith or not sin is sin.

Revelation 21:8, "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death". Each of these sins, and many more, that are manifest in man's regular behaviour are sins which brings him under God's Judgement. No person, whether rich or poor, esteemed or not, king or peasant, are exempt from judgement. When they stand before God, their manifold sins, once hidden, will be exposed to them, so that they will be without excuse or any defence.

What does gods word say about all liars ?

The righteousness of Lot was not determined by what he did. In fact much of what he did was self-serving and his choices resulted in him losing most of what God graciously gave him in this world.

His righteousness could only be bestowed upon him by God's grace through faith, as Abraham was his influential example:

For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness. Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt. But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord will not impute sin. ( Romans 4:3-8)

Our righteousness is the gift of God through faith in Jesus Christ and his atonement for our sins by his crucified death, burial and resurrection.

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. ( 2 Corinthians 5:21)

Again, I can't disagree with the Scriptures you quote, Matthew 5:17,18. They were valid at that time as they are valid today: the Law came from the Mouth of God, Jesus came to fulfil all of its demands & the prophecies about Him of which none other could, & the Law's purity & power remain unchanged even today.

What changed after Jesus' ministry on Earth & His death & resurrection, was that that Law that was supposed to bring us life actually showed us our sin & incapability of keeping it, thereby guaranteeing us separation from God for all eternity: Romans 7:10,11, "And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death. For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me".

So for those who bind themselves to the Law now after expressing faith in Jesus' Sacrifice for their sins & still desire to please God by fulfilling the requirements of the Law, will most certainly fail before God now, just as the Jews did (& Saul did) before. Romans 8:3,4, "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh (i.e. man could never fully obey the Law), God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit".

And what is it to "walk after the Spirit"? Romans 8:2: "For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death". The Law by the Life-giving Spirit of God which is now in every believer fully meets our legal position before God. Why? Because we are now "in Christ" & come under His Spirit's Laws & not under the Laws that condemned us. If now in this glorious position because of God's Gift of His Son, why should we turn back to that which kills us rather that we obey the Giver of Eternal Life? Hebrews 8:10: this was God's Plan from the beginning: the written Law would fade allowing for the new Law in the heart by Christ.