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No True Christ follower should ever celebrate old years night. The true meaning of Halloween has no negative connotation behind it. If you look up the root word on etymology online, the word Hallow (a verb) means to make holy, to consecrate, and the noun version means holy person, Saint. Ween means to hope for, expect, and or believe. Halloween together means to be set apart ( consecrated) for God's service and to highly esteem one another in the Lord by building one another up in the faith, and hope and believe one day Jesus Christ will return one day soon to gather up His chosen people, the Body of Christ.

old year's night (all lower case on purpose) is the night for all witches. A lot of people around the world do not celebrate the true meaning of Halloween; instead, there are those who celebrate witches, wizards, frankensteins, vampires, chuckie, and so forth. Isaiah 5:20 states, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

2 Corinthians 6:14

"Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?"

2 Corinthians 6:15

"And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?"

2 Corinthians 6:16

"And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people."

2 Corinthians 6:17

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,"

Wow , thank you , that's so informative ! I appreciate your knowledge . Hope you will stay around to help us out some more please .

King James spoke Scottish Gaelic (Gaidhlig)as a first language, because he was a Scottish King and a Highlander Chief, and in Hebrew the word for "Grave" (Abode of the Dead) is Seol. In Gaidhlig, there is a similar sounding word which means to plant, to place, to put, to go on a journey, to sail (Seol). This would include to plant in the ground (as in a tree) or to put in a grave, or to travel on a journey (as the soul would, after Death (except the Gaelic word is a verb, not a noun). So, on a play of words, the Hebrew Seol was kept, and because, in Gaelic, you cannot begin a word with the letter H, Seol was lenited into Sheol (changes meaning from "put" to "to put" or "put" in the past tense) as in, to make (or have made) someone to have a "dirt nap" or go on a "Long Journey" (never coming back, dead!)

The joke or pun is, Sheol in Gaelic actually sounds like the English word Hell, and that's the whole idea...

Isaiah 5:20

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Comment: I've never noticed that exclamation point at the end. Like wow. I always highlight the "woe" scriptures. It involves serious pain to those who rebel against it. Mishael

Try typing WOE in the search box and hit the arrow. It's really enlightening.

Thank you Chris. Once I read this I have been searching to find an answer. I found this site & prayed someone could help me. I appreciate you responding. God bless you.

Hello Patricia. In that passage, the English word "hell", is "sheol" in Hebrew. And 'sheol' is a feminine noun, hence the use of 'herself & her'. I think some other translations just use 'it', but the KJV stays with the Hebrew grammar.

Why is hell called herself?

We have to obey those that have rule over us:

Government, law enforcement etc.

People changed the laws as time goes by.

All of us as citizens have a right to challenge law changes; from the city level all the way to the White House. Nobody had time for those public forums, and those who were pushing those laws through, accomplished passing them.

Read the WOES in the Bible. We are to be vigilant when evil people attempt to do away with Gods plan for mankind.

Isaiah 3: 9-11; Isaiah 5:11-30

In Isaiah 6 sees a vision of the Lord and what was happening around His Throne. Is. 6:5. Isaiah understands just how vile we are compared to The Holiness of God. It's inspiring. Answer the question the Godhead asks of us all, in Isaiah 6:8

We're not powerless children. We are meant to defend what is written in the entire Bible. Let's just do what we can, beginning in our own private homes; our churches; and perhaps our communities: in the Spirit of love and brotherhood.

The hour is late. Soon, Jesus will come for us in the clouds. Maranatha.

Learn all you can about this God man, Jesus, whom we will be living with...eternally.

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They've ve warned you that the radical Left has been trying to weaponize COVID-19 to push their extreme agenda. And churches have been their first target.

The Bible commands us to praise & worship: "Make a joyful noise to the Lord, all the earth! Serve the Lord with gladness! Come into his presence with singing!" - Psalm 100:2

The radical Left has literally used the pandemic to forbid you from following this Scripture. It's the most draconian abuse of power in a pandemic. And it's blatantly unconstitutional.

In fact, the Supreme Court recently issued several MAJOR rulings for churches, and we've filed a critical brief at the Supreme Court to stop the SHUTDOWN of churches for good.

JUST HOURS AGO, a state legislature passed a bill we helped draft to ensure that churches are essential and CANNOT BE SHUT DOWN. Earlier this week we served discovery; and TODAY, we are planning to make a critical legal filing in federal court in our MASSIVE lawsuit against the church singing ban.

But as we go head-to-head against a powerful state government (California/Pelosi). and its inexhaustible resources, we need Your signature on the petitions.

Thanks.

Isaiah 5:20

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

PG 2.

Lets revisit the text starting from-

Hebrews 5:11-14. Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.

For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat.

For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe.

But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.

Paul is urging them towards maturity.

Now lets take up Hebrews 6:7-9.

For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:

Verse 8: But that which ""beareth thorns and briers"" is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.

THE KEY IS IN VERSE 9.

Verse 9 But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and ( things that accompany salvation,) though we thus speak. WHAT ACCOMPANIES SALVATION? FRUIT AND REWARDS.

Verse 8 parallels with

Isaiah 5:6-7. And I will lay it waste: it shall not be pruned, nor digged; but there shall come up briers and thorns: I will also command the clouds that they rain no rain upon it.

For the vineyard of the LORD of hosts is the house of Israel, and the men of Judah his pleasant plant: and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry.

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You see these verses can not be about salvation, if so we're all in trouble.

Its about what accompany salvation.

I hope that helps.

Verse 20:. That certainly describes what is happening today!

S Spencer,

I am not sure if I can share additional insight with you on the vine and branches. The things you said were pretty much spot on. Your knowledge is pretty solid. All glory to God for that.

There are a few more things in Chapter 15 that I find interesting, things you may already know but I can still share.

Jesus said I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. It's literally I am the genuine vine, and my Father is the earth worker.

That is fascinating to me because having some (very little) knowledge about horticulture, I know that a tree or vine can have many branches attached to it, some living, and some dead.

All these branches are attached to the same vine, and yet some never produce fruit. They are dead branches.

In the O.T., the vine was always used as an example of Israel, especially Isaiah 5:1-7, also known as the song of the vineyard, how that God planted a vineyard and it was the nation Israel.

But they grew wild grapes, and thorns grew and God allowed the vineyard to be overrun by wild animals, which symbolized His judgement against Israel.

So now Jesus is telling His disciples that I am the genuine vine, not the symbolic one of the O.T. He says I am the genuine vine and my Father is the farmer, the earth worker.

There are two phrases Jesus uses that sometimes cause confusion. First of all there's the phrase "in me." He says every branch "in me" that does not bear fruit. That's not a saved person. That's the nation Israel being in God.

The other phrase Jesus uses is "Abide in me." The ones abiding in the vine produce fruit. Then there are the branches that Jesus says are in me. But they don't produce fruit, neither can they.

The branches that are in Christ but are not bearing fruit, they are only physically connected. Internally they are cut off from the life source. The branches that are abiding in Him are the ones that are connected to the internal life source of the vine who is Jesus Christ!

To me, raising children is like raising grapes. You do your best, but sometimes they grow wild.

Isaiah 5:2

"And he fenced it, and gathered out the stones thereof, and planted it with the choicest vine, and built a tower in the midst of it, and also made a winepress therein: and he looked that it should bring forth grapes, and it brought forth wild grapes."

JOHN 15:1 Jesus says I am the "true" vine. When we think of a vine here's what we must consider; The vine sharing a common life source with the branches, The dependency of the branches on that vine, and the fact that the branches bare fruit, that's why they're there. Here is a few other verses using the idiom the vine. Psalms 80:8-9. "Israel called a vine brought out of Egypt". Isaiah 5:1-7. Jeremiah 2:21, "Israel called a degenerate vine". Hosea 10:1, "an empty vine". I believe this meant to contrast Israel mission as the vine, "HOWEVER there mission is not over" but i want to put our focus on the True vine and the difference between the two. Here is what's important and should'nt be overlooked, Israel was able to show the world then and now the Law which was holy even when executed could never change the heart of man. That's what the study of Hebrews is about. Especially Hebrews 10:16, the Lord says; I WILL PUT MY LAWS INTO THEIR HEARTS. This is where the ministry of Holy spirit comes in. without him we can do nothing, you are the branches, examine your fruit. it should be wrapped in Love, not outwardly first but inwardly then expressed outwardly. That's how the Lord is forming his church to shine light on a dark world, including our nation. No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier. 2 Tim.2:4. and this is the spirit that should reside in you now. it want be born in you later as some say. THANK YOU

Today you may want to take a look at the ALCJ dot com website and consider the petitions that need signatures; regarding various issues; some of them concerning CHURCH FREEDOMS.

If we neglect to use our support of Issues concerning Church and our freedoms under constitutional law, to worship and assemble: there will be no one to blame except ourselves.

The Church can't Arise and lift up the Standard against the enemies of our soul, if we don't draw together as the Body of Christ, stand on our most holy Faith against the evil encroaching upon this nation...and say NO with our signature.

Evil prevails when good people do nothing.

Consider the WOES that God warns us of in:

( Isaiah 3:11-12, Isaiah 5:8,11, Isaiah 20-23, Isaiah 6:5-10, Isaiah 10:1

The simplicity of the Woes is this= if we don't obey Gods known will in our lives, we'll suffer the woes. It takes CORPORATE PRAYER of Christians, to please God and turn back to Him, quickly. Agree with Him!

Stop listening to the voices of unchurched FOOLS. (Nat'l TV)

If we listen to fools, ascribe to what they put forth..... and we NEGLECT to check the Bible to see what GOD says about it ???

Our nation is due for some Reaping of the things we sowed for. Stop turning deaf ears and blind eyes to Gods Word.

There is no thing such as basic "Fire Insurance" as a, "Get Out Of Hell" free card." It cost Jesus His life to pay for our sins. Turn back to Him, and He will turn back to hearing your petitions; prayers.

Satan can play the politics game too. If you can't discern that "voice", you build your house on quicksand. That's why the 'WOEs' are in the Bible. Turn back to God and he will welcome your return. If you feel "less than blessed", you need to assess your life and figure out WHEN you strayed off course.

Spiritual warfare against your MIND happens when it's not full of Bible and faith in what God says; and in what Jesus did for us. Kick satans lying demons out of your head !!

Mishael

God would not send an adulterer, liar, and perverted person to lead a country of good people and it is shameful for anyone to think the He would. Apparently you fail to remember who it is that rules the Earth until the Second Coming. "Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me." John 14:30

You would be hard pressed to remember, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!" Isaiah 5:20.

ED, you notice how Stanjett put edible. the exact verse is genesis 1:29. It says THE GIVING OF FOOD..... i know pot is made in edibles now, My advice is not to fall for this trap. I am 40 and the holy spirit recently convinced me of this sin. i had been smoking since i was 14. Here is my reference: Isaiah 5: 12, And the harp and the viol the tabret and PIPE and wine are in their feasts but they regard not the work of the LORD neither consider the operation of his hands. WE are to be of SOBER MIND. i used to think i was even while smoking pot... im afraid its just not the case though.

HI. i approve of the way you answered the above question on astrology. Not that you need my approval but it draws me to you to ask a question. i am being oppressed by spiritual forces. i hear voices. The bible refers to them as serpents. i believe they are dark fallen angels. The holy spirit is working in me and has convinced me of alot of sins. i am trying to draw nigh to him, so he will draw nigh to me, I have fibromyalgia. the level of anxiety i have is very high . i read the bible day and night to learn what to do and what not to do... my question is this... sometimes i drink a small bottle of fireball alcohol to settle my nerves. the bottle is the small ones they sell at the liquor store. it is 35% alcohol by volume. The references in the bible i am currently studying are isaiah 5: 11 and 5: 22 as well as 1 timothy 5:23 . There are also a few others (one makes a reference to fermentation). In isaiah 5:11 it says (strong drink) which states in the KJV study bible at the bottom that strong drink refers to fermented drink. It states woe unto them that wake up in the morning and continue until night. On isaiah 5:22 it makes a second reference to men of strength to mingle strong drink. (fermented). My understanding is that an alcohol above a certain alcohol content no longer contains fermentation. Psalm 75:8 i see as well but dont understand. My question is do you think me drinking one of those ( it wont get me drunk) in the evening is a sin? So long as i dont get drunk? I mean not to do wrong here or to test GOD. My pain is high as well from fibro though. a second ? i have Also i have been going over Gods healing as well and have learned much there. 1st ref james 5:14,15,16. More ref: Lev16-29 Lev:17:5-7. Ex: 30:33 Lev:78: 20-27 and Lev 20: 17,18. Any insight on the second question i would welcome. Thank you.

your right on point, thankyou

Patrick, astrology is 'frowned upon', as by definition, it is the study that assumes and attempts to interpret the influence of the heavenly bodies on human affairs. Man has for eons wanted to have some assistance to forecast the future for himself & the world he lives in, & without the help from the Bible & having faith in a trustworthy, all-powerful God, he has chosen to look to the heavens for signs. This has never worked though helps relieve some short-lived uncertainty to the seeker.

I've read the Bible through and have yet to find the 'science' of astrology in there and helpful to me in understanding myself & my world, both present & future. Only God's Word, without the need of heavenly bodies, discerns our heart, thoughts, & gives us a hope for this life & that to come. True, there are various references to the stars in the Bible (e.g. Amos 5:8, Job 9:7-10; 38:31, 32), but these are referred to as their constellations which God has set in the heavens, but not for the purpose of them directing the affairs of men.

If you're interested (& I don't give full assent to it), there a short study on this by Perry Stone. Once in his Manna-Fest window, find the Topic: The Enoch Cipher and the future cosmic signs of Christ's Return. Here he gives the connection between the specific setting of the constellations and Israel's tribal structure & other details. But even here, the 'science' of astrology & astronomy are vastly different.

I used to think that too, when I was young and troubled. Never occurred to me to look in a Bible for advise.

I studied and was selling people on my CRAFT.

Then someone showed me I had a death sentence on my life for doing it. I was born again. Believe it when I say, demons don't want to let you go. You're only a walking advertisement for Satan. All those people who live their days reading it, will go to hell if they don't repent and turn to Jesus for help getting out of it.

Also, it's a Curse on the Children of deceived parents.

God made ALL of the stars, planets and geometry.

You need to do a scripture search on words like: stars, astrologers, sorcerers, prognosticators, worship of stars. DEATH SENTENCE.

Buy a Bible. It will save your soul.

I'd like to know why astrology is frowned upon but explains the Bible better than any pastor ever could?

Hi Mishael, I have only heard this song sung by our little Christian School nearby. It has been at least three or more years already. Thankfully I asked for a copy at the time. I will when I can look up the song you mentioned and give it a listen!

I feel the Holy Spirit drawing near to our discussion. If we let Him, he will make us more alike.

:)

Thanks Mishael! It seems most people who we interact with here are all ready familiar with the scriptures.

Ephesians Chapter 6:12

12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, agaist spiritual wickedness in high places.

13 Wherefore take the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all to stand.

14 Stand therefore , having your loins girt about with the truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;

15 And your feet shod with the gospel of peace.

1 Thessalonians 5:8

But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love, and for a helment of salvation.

These scriptures are the faith delivered to the hearts of Jesus Children (like the song), we and I are His little lambs and we will not fight carnal battles here in earth, we will fight spiritual battles even in our own flesh, yet with this Breastplate of Love and faith we are prepared in preparation for the Gospel of Peace.

This battle must be fought in love and peace until the end, without carnal weapons until the end.

Be Brave, trust the True Shepard. Sing songs, if we die physically or lose our material possessions or suffer violence in the flesh while maintaining this Gospel of Peace, so be it.

Carleton

Carleton:

That's probably a great song to listen to. I love the lyrics. Thanks for sharing. It made me think of this song I listen to often, that's similar.

Go on YouTube and listen to 'Peace Prayer' by John Michael Talbot. He's a monk that sings Psalms mostly.

He was a Methodist but he for whatever reason became Catholic. I haven't heard his whole testimony; just pieces.

His brother, Terry Talbot sings a song named: I Saw Him, you have to hear too. It's about the Roman centurion who crucified the Lord. It will make you cry.

The breastplate is the righteousness of God in Christ. Can't fight spiritual warfare in our own righteousness. Occult & witchcraft and sorcery demons are scary. Do not read stupid horoscopes... they use that for doors inside.

Some pastors on google have written some helpful mini sermons. Gather and compare to your Bible.

Your SWORD is scriptures you can preface with: IT IS WRITTEN:

The blood of the Lamb scriptures are the one thing that makes them flee. They will not step over Jesus's Blood.

I was rescued out of the occult; you gotta memorize those scriptures. Speak it out.

Look in the Book of Revelation.

Familiar Spirits are demons from ancestors that practiced some kind of occult; even quija boards. All kinds of known or unknown evil. They use that to trick and torment present day Family. Family demons. Use the right names from the Bible.

Alcohol, pills, dope, opioids, heroin, alcohol

etc are Bondage demons; sorcery.

Their aim is death. Get knowledge.

Ephesians 6: it's weird to fight something invisible...but some can manifest by holding your eyelids shut, hold you down and your mouth, so you can't speak scripture.

Remember that Jesus can hear you screaming the blood of Jesus with your MIND. He will send angels to release you immediately!

Satans thugs don't have Authority to do those things. Know Your Authority in Jesus.

Go listen to some Charles Capps on Youtube.

We can ask God to send angels, to guard the house, the kids, the car. We do not tell the angels what to do. They report to heaven. Angels in heaven praise God, so sometimes I play worship music and sing.

Have an awareness of heaven. Anything in your home that's a bad influence on anybody, needs to be let go. Kids and teenagers can watch Christian cartoons, Bible stories, and movies on YouTubeTv. You hook it up to your tv. Greater is He that is in us, than he that is in the world. Gently wean your kids over to Christian media.

Watch with them.

Mishael

Morning Chris i concur with you and must say that am blessed this morning,

yes its very correct that its only our God who provides healing unto our lives

and as believers of Christ Jesus we ought to know that the scriptures is clearly

recorded as i quote from the book of ISAIAH 53:5:' But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

N/b when we get sick we should Pray to God and remind Him alone of His Word & when we do so in Faith indeed we are heald.Shalom.

TO CHRIS:

All I could find on angels is: Matthew 4:11, Luke 22:43, Psalm 91:11

They ministered to Jesus after his encounter with Satan on Jesus's 40 day fast.

We can ask God if the angels can minister to someone in trouble. We cannot demand it.

The Lords Prayer is the way Jesus taught us to pray.

Spiritual warfare is different.

*This song was found from a handwritten copy with no title or identified authorship. Copyright unknown.

*Peace Begins With Me

In a world of darkness Let me be a light; Let me bring the sunshine to drive away the night. In a world of sadness, let my light shine through, Giving hope and comfort in everything I do! And I will shine God's light for every one to see; So we may share in the Joy of peace and unity.

In a world of strangers, Let me be a friend. Let the light of kindness Glow until the end. In a world of hatred, Let my love shine through, Bringing us together, In friendship, me and you! And I will shine God's light for every one to see; So we may share in the joy of peace and unity.

Let God make tomorrow brighter than today, Let the world be better because I passed this way. In a world of questions I have found the key: God can make a difference When peace begins with me!

God can make a difference When peace begins with me! Oh, yes peace begins with me.

John 14 has so much warmth and hope in Jesus, the Father and the Comforter reigning while Jesus was in earth himself and after in the believer's earth. Jesus said the Father will send another Comforter. When the believer by love keeps His commandments and sayings, then Jesus will manifest himself to them. Jesus and the Father by love will come unto the believer and abode with them as the Comforter which is the Holy Ghost. Jesus gives us His peace. The Father in Jesus was doing the works, Phillip had a choice to believe now in these works or to believe in Jesus himself for the very work's sake.

Other thoughts: Some day Jesus himself will return for His faithful followers and that hour in that day will be sudden. For God, a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years is like a day. Let His peace reign. There is a school song that says, Let his Peace begin with me. (maybe I can find it and put it onto the comments). Repentance and faith in this Work creates a clean heart where the Comforter can reign. Think of all the hearts with this love abiding in steadfast faithfulness and love, little lights in a world that cannot comprehend light.

:)